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Great post.
Taken from TWTD.
posted this on the Mogga thread, but I'll post it here as well as it took me an age to write!
Sad about Mogga. I've not been watching much Championship at all. I have to admit I pretty much watch the Premiership and whatever league Ipswich are in whether that be League One, Championship or Premier League, so really haven't kept abreast of who's good, bad and ugly this season, but we did take Palmer, Townsend off WBA, and maybe they just haven't got their solidity of the past. He'll get another job no problem anyway. He's a seasoned manager.
As for our own manager. @Leejames99 I have to disagree on him being woke or not showing enough emotion. I think he's a very level headed and intelligent manager that we're blessed to have, and I think you're forgetting how the season has panned out and where McKenna showed his anger. After us losing to Brentford from a winning position and having Harry Clarke sent off, swiftly followed by leading against Leicester, having a blatant pen on Chappers waved away, and only seconds later Phillips getting sent off. He was livid. He was boiling up and you heard him come out with the 'small team not getting the decisions' comments and Ashton kicking off with the PGMOL. He was fighting for his team and he was Dr David Banner angry. Yes he's not been angry in his interviews when we were pumped 6-0 by Man City or 4-1 by Spurs, but after getting roasted by Doku and Son, did we see Ben Godfrey again? I'd imagine he showed his anger then behind closed doors. He'll have said Godfrey was still not up to form after not playing much for Atalanta, but didn't roast him in front of the media. His actions behind the scenes and in how many games Godfrey has played since, was plain to see.
Has McKenna been too loyal to the League One and Championship players that you speak of? I really don't think so. Greaves & Delap were in from the get go against Liverpool opening day, Muric, Ben Johnson and Szmodics joined them against Man City at the Eithad. By Fulham in the third game Phillips and Ogbene had joined them, and Brighton away O'Shea joined the party and has been ever present in the League. I actually thought McKenna was a bit harsh for not giving Chappers more of a run out at the start of the season. He didn't start til that Brentford away game, when Hirst got his first start of the season too. Luongo started against Liverpool on opening day, and has hardly had a look in since, Harness went out to Derby, Clarke to Sheff Utd, Al Hamadi to Stoke and Edmondson to 'Boro. He's had to work with the team that got him double promotion, and rightly rewarded them where deserved, but was equally cutthroat by bringing in new players when he thought they were up to speed.
Has he given Leif too much leeway? Yes quite possibly. When trying to hold on to get a result at Stamford Bridge last week he brought off Leif and brought on Townsend. He knows that Townsend has proven himself the better defender, and he knows that Leif hasn't managed to prove himself of premier standard as a defender. Would any of us have started the season with Leif on the bench, after the magic he's showed the past seasons? We all thought he'd be one of our best performers. Heck I even had him in my Fantasy Football team for half the season!
Morsy you bang on about alot, but he's still integral to the team, and of course he's not gonna be Premier standard compared to what most of the teams have. He played against £200 million of CM's in Enzo Fernandez and Moses Caicedo last week, and held his own. We thought by bringing in Phillips that he'd be a dream signing and be the starting CM, but it's just not worked out that way whether because of injury, suspension or form.
He played Burns more than he wanted to. Burns showed himself not to be up to Prem standard. I'm sure we and McKenna would have loved him to bring the arrogance from past seasons with him, but Burns had an inferiority complex about the step up& McKenna had brought in Ogbene to play on the right wing as well so he could play Omari as his main man through the middle. Should Mckenna have gone straight to playing Omari on the right and rethink his plans? Yeh probably, but McKenna evidently wanted to make Omari our main number 10 and didn't want him out on the right.
Bringing in so many players is tricky. Some hit the ground running like Delap, O'Shea, Szmodics, Cajuste, Palmer and Enciso, but equally Muric, Greaves, Godfrey, Johnson, Phillips, Clarke, Philogene, Ogbene (injury) haven't consistently given the performances to warrant starting spots.
Have we spent our money well? Similarly that's been hit and miss as well. We don't have the foreign scouting network in place to pick out the treats like Brighton, Brentford and others do. The one player from abroad we brought in Cajuste has been one of our best players. Hopefully that foreign scouting network will come in the future under the new ownership and new money. What we did do was try and buy the cream of the Championship with the hope it might keep us up, but equally it might make us alot stronger if we went down. Only time will tell if that was the right plan, but I for one am looking forward to seeing Jack Clarke grow as a McKenna player, Philogene fit and healthy to have a summer training with the players under his belt and rediscover his form at Hull, Greaves grow in stature alongside Woolfenden and O'Shea, and Omari pulling the strings.
We have to remember we wouldn't have been able to buy Omari or Delap if we hadn't gone up. These are players like Clarke, Philogene who should thrive under Mckenna's playing style and regressing to a Shaun Dyche philosophy I'm not buying. We still have the best young British manager out there. Yes he's been stubborn and made some mistakes this year, but he's learning. That's why he's at Ipswich, and that's why we need to hold him tight and build an era of football at our beloved club that will rival Robson, Ramsey & Burley years.
posted this on the Mogga thread, but I'll post it here as well as it took me an age to write!
Sad about Mogga. I've not been watching much Championship at all. I have to admit I pretty much watch the Premiership and whatever league Ipswich are in whether that be League One, Championship or Premier League, so really haven't kept abreast of who's good, bad and ugly this season, but we did take Palmer, Townsend off WBA, and maybe they just haven't got their solidity of the past. He'll get another job no problem anyway. He's a seasoned manager.
As for our own manager. @Leejames99 I have to disagree on him being woke or not showing enough emotion. I think he's a very level headed and intelligent manager that we're blessed to have, and I think you're forgetting how the season has panned out and where McKenna showed his anger. After us losing to Brentford from a winning position and having Harry Clarke sent off, swiftly followed by leading against Leicester, having a blatant pen on Chappers waved away, and only seconds later Phillips getting sent off. He was livid. He was boiling up and you heard him come out with the 'small team not getting the decisions' comments and Ashton kicking off with the PGMOL. He was fighting for his team and he was Dr David Banner angry. Yes he's not been angry in his interviews when we were pumped 6-0 by Man City or 4-1 by Spurs, but after getting roasted by Doku and Son, did we see Ben Godfrey again? I'd imagine he showed his anger then behind closed doors. He'll have said Godfrey was still not up to form after not playing much for Atalanta, but didn't roast him in front of the media. His actions behind the scenes and in how many games Godfrey has played since, was plain to see.
Has McKenna been too loyal to the League One and Championship players that you speak of? I really don't think so. Greaves & Delap were in from the get go against Liverpool opening day, Muric, Ben Johnson and Szmodics joined them against Man City at the Eithad. By Fulham in the third game Phillips and Ogbene had joined them, and Brighton away O'Shea joined the party and has been ever present in the League. I actually thought McKenna was a bit harsh for not giving Chappers more of a run out at the start of the season. He didn't start til that Brentford away game, when Hirst got his first start of the season too. Luongo started against Liverpool on opening day, and has hardly had a look in since, Harness went out to Derby, Clarke to Sheff Utd, Al Hamadi to Stoke and Edmondson to 'Boro. He's had to work with the team that got him double promotion, and rightly rewarded them where deserved, but was equally cutthroat by bringing in new players when he thought they were up to speed.
Has he given Leif too much leeway? Yes quite possibly. When trying to hold on to get a result at Stamford Bridge last week he brought off Leif and brought on Townsend. He knows that Townsend has proven himself the better defender, and he knows that Leif hasn't managed to prove himself of premier standard as a defender. Would any of us have started the season with Leif on the bench, after the magic he's showed the past seasons? We all thought he'd be one of our best performers. Heck I even had him in my Fantasy Football team for half the season!
Morsy you bang on about alot, but he's still integral to the team, and of course he's not gonna be Premier standard compared to what most of the teams have. He played against £200 million of CM's in Enzo Fernandez and Moses Caicedo last week, and held his own. We thought by bringing in Phillips that he'd be a dream signing and be the starting CM, but it's just not worked out that way whether because of injury, suspension or form.
He played Burns more than he wanted to. Burns showed himself not to be up to Prem standard. I'm sure we and McKenna would have loved him to bring the arrogance from past seasons with him, but Burns had an inferiority complex about the step up& McKenna had brought in Ogbene to play on the right wing as well so he could play Omari as his main man through the middle. Should Mckenna have gone straight to playing Omari on the right and rethink his plans? Yeh probably, but McKenna evidently wanted to make Omari our main number 10 and didn't want him out on the right.
Bringing in so many players is tricky. Some hit the ground running like Delap, O'Shea, Szmodics, Cajuste, Palmer and Enciso, but equally Muric, Greaves, Godfrey, Johnson, Phillips, Clarke, Philogene, Ogbene (injury) haven't consistently given the performances to warrant starting spots.
Have we spent our money well? Similarly that's been hit and miss as well. We don't have the foreign scouting network in place to pick out the treats like Brighton, Brentford and others do. The one player from abroad we brought in Cajuste has been one of our best players. Hopefully that foreign scouting network will come in the future under the new ownership and new money. What we did do was try and buy the cream of the Championship with the hope it might keep us up, but equally it might make us alot stronger if we went down. Only time will tell if that was the right plan, but I for one am looking forward to seeing Jack Clarke grow as a McKenna player, Philogene fit and healthy to have a summer training with the players under his belt and rediscover his form at Hull, Greaves grow in stature alongside Woolfenden and O'Shea, and Omari pulling the strings.
We have to remember we wouldn't have been able to buy Omari or Delap if we hadn't gone up. These are players like Clarke, Philogene who should thrive under Mckenna's playing style and regressing to a Shaun Dyche philosophy I'm not buying. We still have the best young British manager out there. Yes he's been stubborn and made some mistakes this year, but he's learning. That's why he's at Ipswich, and that's why we need to hold him tight and build an era of football at our beloved club that will rival Robson, Ramsey & Burley years.
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Re: Great post.
^^^ Echo that ^^^
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Re: Great post.
Banal post IMO - there's a lot of supposition too
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Re: Great post.
For me, it was an interesting read but very rose coloured spectacles being work by the poster. No mention of inability to adapt tactics mid game and inability to make decisive changes that change the game (as other managers have done to great effect against us) - so 6/10 from me.
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Re: Great post.
It's a terrific post if, like me, you think McKenna is an excellent young manager who will have learned a lot from the travails of the club this season.
Anyone with a lesser view of McKenna will not be persuaded by the views expressed.
Opinions eh?
Anyone with a lesser view of McKenna will not be persuaded by the views expressed.
Opinions eh?
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^^^ Echo that ^^^MasseyFerguson wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:10 pmIt's a terrific post if, like me, you think McKenna is an excellent young manager who will have learned a lot from the travails of the club this season.
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I think the post is written as intended, supporting the boss and condoning most of what has taken place which is fine.
Equally I could write one in a totally different context outlining all the bad errors and distinct lack of game management for 32 games that a lot of fans questioning things would wax lyrical about. It's clearly nothing more than opinion based on one's own thought's.
Equally I could write one in a totally different context outlining all the bad errors and distinct lack of game management for 32 games that a lot of fans questioning things would wax lyrical about. It's clearly nothing more than opinion based on one's own thought's.