Premier League - Leicester City vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

[shabba]

This is the thing, we always find a way to lose games, even when we should get something, its a recurring theme, this time it's against a fellow championship team who have been utter dross themselves and who have a woeful manager, doesn't auger well at all.

Yes exactly!

Its just tricky as I didn't think we played that badly? We had more of the ball, more attempts etc? I.e it was not like we didn't try or didn't turn up? That's why I find it hard to be too critical even though we lost.

The only thing I will be critical of and IMO is the main issue this season, beyond formations etc - is just how slow we are, we move the ball slowly, even the speed we kick the ball at sometimes is too slow, the players just seem a fraction slower than other teams so we can't manouver as quickly.
So many times I feel we just take that bit too long, players should have their pass in mind when the ball comes to them, when you see other teams do it then it works SO well, Palace beat us at PR this season where it was so clear who could get the ball around the pitch faster.

[Shed on tour]

All season we have been too slow in moving the ball. The fans around me and myself have been shouting out that at virtually all the home games this season. Unfortunately, our manager and coaching staff don’t appear to have noticed the problem.

[hallamblue]

The pace of our players / team has been going on for much longer than just this season.

Our midfield especially has been very pedestrian, with Luongo / Morsy last season and niw this season with Morsy and whoever is beside him. Our defence is slow too. In fact when Woolfenden is in that back four it's incredibly slow, because he thinks it's cool to " walk" the ball out if defence. It was really noticeable when he came back into the team, for a period of time just how ponderous the defence was, with him in it.

There is much to sort over the summer it seems....

[Blue Wilf]

We have been beaten by pace all season. It started with Salah's goal in the second home game, continued against Man Utd, Palace, Fulham away, Bournemouth at home etc etc - the list is endless. The problem lies with recruitment, followed closely by tactics. McKenna at PL level has been awful - sad but the evidence clearly shows it to be true.

I just want to get next sunday over with now and see what transpires in the close season. I honestly care not one bit if McKenna stays or goes and whoever is in charge needs a clear plan on recruitment. Hopefully, MA (and gamechanger) has that cos if not, next season may be a challenge. I live in hope...

I have hated this season (as I said many times that I feared I would). The PL and all that surrounds it sucks all of the hope out of the game I love. It is a drain, not a beacon of hope. I really hope we compete well in the Championship and am looking forward to many elements of it. If we do come back up, I just hope things will have changed but fear the opposite may well be true

[hallamblue]

WORD ^^^^

[arana peligrosa]

TWTD is an enigma. Soon as the game's over, people can't get in quick enough to berate McKenna and all that's wrong with the individual. Allow it an hour or two (and) all of the sudden the man can't do a thing wrong and say a bad about it, they group together and shoot you down. Place is f**king bananas.

The logic here is simple. McKenna proved himself at lower league, performed wonders, maybe it were only a one or two season wonder and can never be repeated, time can only answer it. However at top level, against the very best, he fell short by considerable distance and a fish out of water. It was never going to work for either him or the team.

Sick of the reiteration but as before haven't enjoyed time back there. You wait 20 damn years to make a return and what's there to show for it - one home win all season and not much else with it away from Portman Road. We haven't seemed to even challenge or make a fight of it, just prepared to roll over and give up long before any match is concluded.

Wasn't like it all the way through since August but enough to raise concern or show justified indignation.

[valleyroad]

We have been beaten by pace all season. It started with Salah's goal in the second home game, continued against Man Utd, Palace, Fulham away, Bournemouth at home etc etc - the list is endless. The problem lies with recruitment, followed closely by tactics. McKenna at PL level has been awful - sad but the evidence clearly shows it to be true.

I just want to get next sunday over with now and see what transpires in the close season. I honestly care not one bit if McKenna stays or goes and whoever is in charge needs a clear plan on recruitment. Hopefully, MA (and gamechanger) has that cos if not, next season may be a challenge. I live in hope...

I have hated this season (as I said many times that I feared I would). The PL and all that surrounds it sucks all of the hope out of the game I love. It is a drain, not a beacon of hope. I really hope we compete well in the Championship and am looking forward to many elements of it. If we do come back up, I just hope things will have changed but fear the opposite may well be true

Bet all the Burnley fans were saying the same about Kompany last season.
I really hope for his own sake that Kieran McKenna leaves Ipswich Town.
The whole forum recently is just attack after attack on him to the point that most sensible fans don't bother contributing

[hallamblue]

Probably lying because having watched al.istvrvery gane this season, I like so many others can't see any evidence of "learning" or changes when things cleay aren't working from the same methods he's used since League One. It's a big step up fir all concerned and Mckenna states after every game, we need to learn from this. But nothing changes from his perspective. Individual players do appear to have developed snd learned, but for dine reason, nit the manager. Which gucen his intelligence and ultra analytical mind beggers belief. I think you mistake fans frustration with our constant Groubdhog day performances every game, with anger....

[Bluemike]

We have been beaten by pace all season. It started with Salah's goal in the second home game, continued against Man Utd, Palace, Fulham away, Bournemouth at home etc etc - the list is endless. The problem lies with recruitment, followed closely by tactics. McKenna at PL level has been awful - sad but the evidence clearly shows it to be true.

I just want to get next sunday over with now and see what transpires in the close season. I honestly care not one bit if McKenna stays or goes and whoever is in charge needs a clear plan on recruitment. Hopefully, MA (and gamechanger) has that cos if not, next season may be a challenge. I live in hope...

I have hated this season (as I said many times that I feared I would). The PL and all that surrounds it sucks all of the hope out of the game I love. It is a drain, not a beacon of hope. I really hope we compete well in the Championship and am looking forward to many elements of it. If we do come back up, I just hope things will have changed but fear the opposite may well be true

Bet all the Burnley fans were saying the same about Kompany last season.
I really hope for his own sake that Kieran McKenna leaves Ipswich Town.
The whole forum recently is just attack after attack on him to the point that most sensible fans don't bother contributing

So you're only sensible if you are a yes man that accepts any old sh*te ? Quite easy from hundreds of miles away isn't it. You need to learn the difference between attacks and facts. I wish McKenna's team had managed attack after attack a few times this season.

[valleyroad]

We have been beaten by pace all season. It started with Salah's goal in the second home game, continued against Man Utd, Palace, Fulham away, Bournemouth at home etc etc - the list is endless. The problem lies with recruitment, followed closely by tactics. McKenna at PL level has been awful - sad but the evidence clearly shows it to be true.

I just want to get next sunday over with now and see what transpires in the close season. I honestly care not one bit if McKenna stays or goes and whoever is in charge needs a clear plan on recruitment. Hopefully, MA (and gamechanger) has that cos if not, next season may be a challenge. I live in hope...

I have hated this season (as I said many times that I feared I would). The PL and all that surrounds it sucks all of the hope out of the game I love. It is a drain, not a beacon of hope. I really hope we compete well in the Championship and am looking forward to many elements of it. If we do come back up, I just hope things will have changed but fear the opposite may well be true

Bet all the Burnley fans were saying the same about Kompany last season.
I really hope for his own sake that Kieran McKenna leaves Ipswich Town.
The whole forum recently is just attack after attack on him to the point that most sensible fans don't bother contributing

So you're only sensible if you are a yes man that accepts any old sh*te ? Quite easy from hundreds of miles away isn't it. You need to learn the difference between attacks and facts. I wish McKenna's team had managed attack after attack a few times this season.

It's nothing to do with being a yes man and damn all with being hundreds of miles away. It may be your facts but loads of posters on here will disagree.
If you represent the mood of Town supporters then McKenna should get out asap as he is on a hiding to nothing. I think he will, he is smart.

[ITFC2024]

Bet all the Burnley fans were saying the same about Kompany last season.
I really hope for his own sake that Kieran McKenna leaves Ipswich Town.
The whole forum recently is just attack after attack on him to the point that most sensible fans don't bother contributing

So you're only sensible if you are a yes man that accepts any old sh*te ? Quite easy from hundreds of miles away isn't it. You need to learn the difference between attacks and facts. I wish McKenna's team had managed attack after attack a few times this season.

It's nothing to do with being a yes man and damn all with being hundreds of miles away. It may be your facts but loads of posters on here will disagree.
If you represent the mood of Town supporters then McKenna should get out asap as he is on a hiding to nothing. I think he will, he is smart.

Hate to fan the ashes Valley, but if I recall you also supported Mick McCarthy until and after he left? Personally, I think Kieran deserves another chance, but if we’re struggling mid table next Christmas, he needs to go.

[valleyroad]

So you're only sensible if you are a yes man that accepts any old sh*te ? Quite easy from hundreds of miles away isn't it. You need to learn the difference between attacks and facts. I wish McKenna's team had managed attack after attack a few times this season.

It's nothing to do with being a yes man and damn all with being hundreds of miles away. It may be your facts but loads of posters on here will disagree.
If you represent the mood of Town supporters then McKenna should get out asap as he is on a hiding to nothing. I think he will, he is smart.

Hate to fan the ashes Valley, but if I recall you also supported Mick McCarthy until and after he left? Personally, I think Kieran deserves another chance, but if we’re struggling mid table next Christmas, he needs to go.

Aye and when McCarthy left what happened. No understanding of the limitations he was working under. Alan Lee made plenty of sound comments about all that. McKenna will walk if he gets an opportunity and he would be right to do so. For me he is on hiding to nothing.

[ITFC2024]

So I’m assuming you’re saying, McCarthy would have gotten us to the Premier League if he had financial backing? It’s cool if you think that. I’m not sure if that would have happened, but it’s all water from the well now.

[valleyroad]

So I’m assuming you’re saying, McCarthy would have gotten us to the Premier League if he had financial backing? It’s cool if you think that. I’m not sure if that would have happened, but it’s all water from the well now.

100% he would have. Just like he did with Wolves and Sunderland

[Blue Wilf]

So I’m assuming you’re saying, McCarthy would have gotten us to the Premier League if he had financial backing? It’s cool if you think that. I’m not sure if that would have happened, but it’s all water from the well now.

100% he would have. Just like he did with Wolves and Sunderland

You are deluded, not sensible. Sensible people see what is before them and weigh up all contibuting factors and make a judgement based on them - that is what I have done (in my opinion). To say people who question McKenna and his approach are somehow not sensible is ridiculous. Maybe we should all let 'adults' like you tell us what we should think? Don't be so bloody patronising.

[valleyroad]

So I’m assuming you’re saying, McCarthy would have gotten us to the Premier League if he had financial backing? It’s cool if you think that. I’m not sure if that would have happened, but it’s all water from the well now.

100% he would have. Just like he did with Wolves and Sunderland

You are deluded, not sensible. Sensible people see what is before them and weigh up all contibuting factors and make a judgement based on them - that is what I have done (in my opinion). To say people who question McKenna and his approach are somehow not sensible is ridiculous. Maybe we should all let 'adults' like you tell us what we should think? Don't be so bloody patronising.

So he is tactically naive, rigid in his approach, recruitment is poor, substitutions are predictable, too loyal to certain players, stubborn, won't play Delap and Hirst together etc where do you want to stop but we want to keep him as manager and give him another go at the Championship. Really ? That sounds sensible to me.
At least Rossi is consistent.
Maybe balanced would have been a better choice than sensible if that helps but for quite a while now it has become obvious to me that Kieran McKenna should get himself out of PR.
I think he knew himself at the end of last season that his task this year was as difficult as it could be. If he had options I guess they weren't quite right or others were favoured.

[Bluemike]

Bet all the Burnley fans were saying the same about Kompany last season.
I really hope for his own sake that Kieran McKenna leaves Ipswich Town.
The whole forum recently is just attack after attack on him to the point that most sensible fans don't bother contributing

So you're only sensible if you are a yes man that accepts any old sh*te ? Quite easy from hundreds of miles away isn't it. You need to learn the difference between attacks and facts. I wish McKenna's team had managed attack after attack a few times this season.

It's nothing to do with being a yes man and damn all with being hundreds of miles away. It may be your facts but loads of posters on here will disagree.
If you represent the mood of Town supporters then McKenna should get out asap as he is on a hiding to nothing. I think he will, he is smart.

Are you saying you don't agree that it is fact we have been pretty damn awful, that we have got worse as the season has gone on, that we lose games where we should not be losing due to poor tactics etc, that we are very one dimensional, that KM appears to have learnt little the longer the season has gone on ? I mean I could go on and on but I fail to see which of those points aren't fact.

I think it is fair to say we all pretty much expected it to be tough and the probability of going back down was high, however I refuse to accept that anyone expected us to win One damn game at home all season, to barely pick up a point after Christmas, to lose so many games at home in a row, to not even be close to giving it a go at surviving, I just don't believe anyone saw that scenario.

[Blue Wilf]

100% he would have. Just like he did with Wolves and Sunderland

You are deluded, not sensible. Sensible people see what is before them and weigh up all contibuting factors and make a judgement based on them - that is what I have done (in my opinion). To say people who question McKenna and his approach are somehow not sensible is ridiculous. Maybe we should all let 'adults' like you tell us what we should think? Don't be so bloody patronising.

So he is tactically naive, rigid in his approach, recruitment is poor, substitutions are predictable, too loyal to certain players, stubborn, won't play Delap and Hirst together etc where do you want to stop but we want to keep him as manager and give him another go at the Championship. Really ? That sounds sensible to me.
At least Rossi is consistent.
Maybe balanced would have been a better choice than sensible if that helps but for quite a while now it has become obvious to me that Kieran McKenna should get himself out of PR.
I think he knew himself at the end of last season that his task this year was as difficult as it could be. If he had options I guess they weren't quite right or others were favoured.

I am saying if he stays, I don't have a big issue as he has proven he can get us promoted. That does not say that I think he is right for us long term. Don't see what is inconsistent about that? See - sensible!