Our Injury list.....

hallamblue · Post by **hallamblue** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:15 am

...has IMO been quite shocking so far this season. It's not that it's the odd one player at a time, getting injured, but it's been two or three...with long term bad injuries.

This would disrupt ANY squad - let alone a small one like ours. It's hardly a wonder we are struggling and I feel this injury "factor" is a major (but not the only) contributor to our problems this season.

What ever the "resons" are ...we are IMO sliding to the mother of all relegation battles now ....and use of the "kids" is soon to be unaviodable - but not the "saviour factor " many people think they will be IMHO.

What do you lot feel.

the-mole · Post by **the-mole** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:32 am

I don't look at the kids as being saviours - I look at them as an alternative that will try!

An alternative which has pace and a willingness to work hard to create something. Unfortunately the old guard have been looking far too lacking to get us up - so I welcome the introduction of youngsters to spice things up. They are all an unknown quantity and perhaps this factor alone may help us to become less predictable!!

We are slipping into a relegation battle and that reality needs to sink in soon. Our injuries haven't helped but nor has the negative tactics we have employed this season!!

StanstedBlue · Post by **StanstedBlue** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:34 am

Shame f**king Royle wasn't on it too......

hallamblue · Post by **hallamblue** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:38 am

the-mole wrote:I don't look at the kids as being saviours - I look at them as an alternative that will try!

An alternative which has pace and a willingness to work hard to create something. Unfortunately the old guard have been looking far too lacking to get us up - so I welcome the introduction of youngsters to spice things up. They are all an unknown quantity and perhaps this factor alone may help us to become less predictable!!

We are slipping into a relegation battle and that reality needs to sink in soon. Our injuries haven't helped but nor has the negative tactics we have employed this season!!

..AGREED ! but in an "ideal" world these kids would be fed in gradually - a fact that Joe obviously doesnt like to do. But in a fast approaching relegation battle I honestly dont think these kids can do it week in week out . They're physically not up to it.

But I agree they will have bags of spirit and running - but for how long will that last once they get clobbered week in week out by some 14 stone + experinced opponent ?

I love to see these kids come into the team - and soon I think we wil have no other choice - but if we have to depend on them to get us out of this mess I think we will be very disappointed !

the-mole · Post by **the-mole** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:58 am

hallamblue wrote:
the-mole wrote:I don't look at the kids as being saviours - I look at them as an alternative that will try!

An alternative which has pace and a willingness to work hard to create something. Unfortunately the old guard have been looking far too lacking to get us up - so I welcome the introduction of youngsters to spice things up. They are all an unknown quantity and perhaps this factor alone may help us to become less predictable!!

We are slipping into a relegation battle and that reality needs to sink in soon. Our injuries haven't helped but nor has the negative tactics we have employed this season!!
..AGREED ! but in an "ideal" world these kids would be fed in gradually - a fact that Joe obviously doesnt like to do. But in a fast approaching relegation battle I honestly dont think these kids can do it week in week out . They're physically not up to it.

But I agree they will have bags of spirit and running - but for how long will that last once they get clobbered week in week out by some 14 stone + experinced opponent ?

I love to see these kids come into the team - and soon I think we wil have no other choice - but if we have to depend on them to get us out of this mess I think we will be very disappointed !

Your right - we don't want to depend on them to get us out of this mess - but unfortunately the more experienced so called pro's at the club seem more than happy to let it happen. Some of these kids should be given a shot now, before we are in the mess!!

Shed on tour · Post by **Shed on tour** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:08 am

Hallam
Agree with you about sliding into the mother of all relegation battles (see my post below).
Management and players need to face up to this prospect right now (no good thinking everything will come up rosey and come March then saying we are in trouble). If it comes to a real battle to stay in this division I'm not that confident we have to many players in our squad that would be really up for it.
As for the youngsters you are quite right in saying that they probably will not be the saviour to the situation but I honestly believe we are now paying for persevering with some of the deadwood over the past couple of seasons.

Post by **Earl Blue** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:10 am

IMHO injuries or not, it has been staring us in the face that the youngsters
should have at least been given the opportunity to prove themselves
at some EARLIER stage. I mean at the end of the day come the end
of the season some of our more senior players will not be able
to play full games. (well thats not happening now is it).

It appears that we will always leave things to the very last moment.

Joe will not so confidently be saying we could get into the top 6 anymore
and I seriously question as to whether or not we will be able to deal with a relegation battle..

We ALL know that something should have been done already, it just appears that SOME people think we should only be looking at things in
a 'last scenario case'.. NOW when we need them they do not have the
valueable experience that they could have had.

hallamblue · Post by **hallamblue** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:31 am

I concur with both you Shed and Earl...but I suppose my biggest, nagging fear is that the powers that be at Portman Road, will do simply "nothing at all" .Their failure to act NOW - will I believe cost us dearly !

I'm actually dreading Town's game on saturday v Wolves...I have never in all my time of supporting Town ever felt like this ..and I wonder how the players will be - the word "pressure" barely covers it !

Bluebird · Post by **Bluebird** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:55 am

hallamblue wrote:I concur with both you Shed and Earl...but I suppose my biggest, nagging fear is that the powers that be at Portman Road, will do simply "nothing at all" .Their failure to act NOW - will I believe cost us dearly !

I'm actually dreading Town's game on saturday v Wolves...I have never in all my time of supporting Town ever felt like this ..and I wonder how the players will be - the word "pressure" barely covers it !

Me too, I've got friends coming down from Wolverhampton for the game, and they were all texting me last night, they think their forwards will like DeVos

Post by **Earl Blue** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:00 am

hallamblue wrote:I concur with both you Shed and Earl...but I suppose my biggest, nagging fear is that the powers that be at Portman Road, will do simply "nothing at all" .Their failure to act NOW - will I believe cost us dearly !

I'm actually dreading Town's game on saturday v Wolves...I have never in all my time of supporting Town ever felt like this ..and I wonder how the players will be - the word "pressure" barely covers it !

Quite right. The powers that be that have the ability to change things
have not. There lies the problem..

Dubai Blue · Post by **Dubai Blue** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:07 am

Unfortunately just because we want the youngsters to be ready to step up doesn't mean that they actually are.

If we get a settled period without so many injuries and suspensions we can play our way out of relegation. But that 'if' is a little out of our hands.

Bluebird · Post by **Bluebird** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:10 am

Dubai Blue wrote:Unfortunately just because we want the youngsters to be ready to step up doesn't mean that they actually are.

If we get a settled period without so many injuries and suspensions we can play our way out of relegation. But that 'if' is a little out of our hands.

I honestly don't think its a simple as that though DB, as you forgetting Royle's team selection, tactics and his ability to change his side mid game when it is playing well.

the-mole · Post by **the-mole** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:44 am

Dubai Blue wrote:Unfortunately just because we want the youngsters to be ready to step up doesn't mean that they actually are.

If we get a settled period without so many injuries and suspensions we can play our way out of relegation. But that 'if' is a little out of our hands.

We aren't saying all this young talent is ready to take the world by storm - however, we haven't really seen any of it given a chance. Garven and Price apart the rest of been bit part players, filling gaps only to be dropped later on.

I could understand if we had an awesome first team, full of quality in form players, players with hunger and pace. unfortunately we are nowhere near this. Royle has consistently not shown faith in the youth. He is persevered with the old guard and this has been a bad decision. Magilton was starting to look past it 2 seasons ago, here he is trying to compete 2 years past his best.

JR's tactics and team selections have been schoolboy and very negative. The only positive thing this club has is its youth system, something which is keeping us fans hopes alive. Yes we know we cannot stick out our youth team week in week out - but some of those boys deserve a better chance than what they have been given!!

phily bon bon · Post by **phily bon bon** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:25 pm

the-mole wrote:
Dubai Blue wrote:Unfortunately just because we want the youngsters to be ready to step up doesn't mean that they actually are.

If we get a settled period without so many injuries and suspensions we can play our way out of relegation. But that 'if' is a little out of our hands.
We aren't saying all this young talent is ready to take the world by storm - however, we haven't really seen any of it given a chance. Garven and Price apart the rest of been bit part players, filling gaps only to be dropped later on.

I could understand if we had an awesome first team, full of quality in form players, players with hunger and pace. unfortunately we are nowhere near this. Royle has consistently not shown faith in the youth. He is persevered with the old guard and this has been a bad decision. Magilton was starting to look past it 2 seasons ago, here he is trying to compete 2 years past his best.

JR's tactics and team selections have been schoolboy and very negative. The only positive thing this club has is its youth system, something which is keeping us fans hopes alive. Yes we know we cannot stick out our youth team week in week out - but some of those boys deserve a better chance than what they have been given!!

Good post mr mole and I for one never thought IÃ‚Â´d be calling for the head of joe.Like you DB its all to rare that I get chace to get to PR but from listening to the matches and reading countless reports the boys(first team oldies) just areÃ‚Â´nt delivering week in week out.
we could accept this as part of the ongoing problems we have but I like to think that we (small club as we are ) will NEVER accept the gutless inept,clueless,shambles thats being servd up nearly every game.The shame is that certain players are "putting it in "week in and week out but when they are only two or three per match you can see that there is a great shortfall.