Stay positive

[marko69]

And as Shed on Tour has already alluded to......, would Mevans have accepted 7th, if asked on January 1st, 2015?

[arana peligrosa]

It's hard to be positive when you suffer with depression, it's an illness that will intrude on many aspects of life, but I'll say this : The position we find ourselves, the chances ahead, the obvious opportunity of getting out of this damn league for the first time in over a decade - we could be in a far worse position right now such as in mid-table with nothing to play for..

It's just as well we had that great run up until New Year, as without it, we wouldn't even be thinking about a top six finish. Say again I'll allow McCarthy another season to see what he can produce, there is no animosity towards the individual and I do not want him to leave as it now stands, but for arguments sake, if we do miss out on a promotion this year, there will be lots of talk during the summer about where to go from here by way of who is the right name to take us forward.

Like it, don't like it, there will be a number who will want McCarthy to leave - that's their opinion and they're entitled to it - but can appreciate it's (above all else) for the good of the club and future prosperity.

[Bluemike]

I honestly am starting to doubt my sanity though, do Town fans really want McCarthy to leave ? Please whoever you are make yourself known as I am finding it hard to accept this is the case.

[derick_ipsw]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tea ... n/fixtures

The remaining fixtures above. 5 wins will be Bolton(H) Huddersfield (A)Blackpool(H) Cardiff(H) and Nottm Forest(H)
Draws with Watford, wolves, Blackburn and beaten by Bournemouth 18pts happy days 79pts total

Positive enough? .

[herforder]

I honestly am starting to doubt my sanity though, do Town fans really want McCarthy to leave ? Please whoever you are make yourself known as I am finding it hard to accept this is the case.

Don't think are many - if any - on here calling for MM's head. Over on TWTD it may be different; but then there are something in excess of 200+ combined posts following yesterday's match. Bound to be the odd numpty in there somewhere! (All opinions are of course accepted and respected)

Luckily, this site remains a largely numpty free zone!

[Bluemike]

Hmmm lol.

[number 9]

MM OUT!!!

[number 9]

http://fusion.net/story/104129/when-the ... ign=/feed/

I feel better now...

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

I honestly am starting to doubt my sanity though, do Town fans really want McCarthy to leave ? Please whoever you are make yourself known as I am finding it hard to accept this is the case.

OK, well it all depends on your outlook.

For some on here, the fact that at the start of the season we were not expected to make the play-offs means that they will be satisfied if we finish 7th or 8th because that would represent an improvement over last season. If people feel that, fair enough.

For me, I don't care what was expected before the season started, the fact is that at the turn of the year we were second. Our slide since then is, to me, unacceptable. Sure I blame ME for not backing the manager financially. But I also lay a certain amount of blame at the door of the manager for failing to address the slide, for being one-dimensional in his tactics, and for continually playing people out of position in really important areas (ie defence). The slide has been in progress since the start of January, yet still we see the same old tactics, team selections, and approach.

So, yes, if we fail now to make the play-offs I will consider the season to be nothing less than a failure and would be looking for a change of management/approach. Oh yes, and for ME to make some funds available for whoever is manager. I realise that ME is pi$$ed off at how much money was wasted by Keane and Jewell - but they were HIS appointments: HE got it wrong, and to punish current management by restricting funds now because of what has been wasted in the past suggests to me that his heart is not really in the club.

[ashfordblue]

I still think ME treats the clubs £80 million debt as a tax loss against his corporate empire assets, so if we got promoted to the premiership and covered this loss, which would be easily possible on the £130 million guaranteed income and parachute payment if relegated, he wouldn't have any tax losses to claim against, so I don't think his heart is in the club, its just another tax loss to him, if he really cared for us, money would have been available for Mick to strengthen when we were 2nd In the table, also he never makes himself known to the fans, its all cloak and dagger secret hiding, and all the time ME is owning us, we wont see much if any funds come forward to build a better squad, will be very interesting to see if Mick stays if nothing in the way of funds is available next season, so my honest opinion is ME does not care, he must be the only owner of a football club that does not want promotion??

[phily bon bon]

I still think ME treats the clubs £80 million debt as a tax loss against his corporate empire assets, so if we got promoted to the premiership and covered this loss, which would be easily possible on the £130 million guaranteed income and parachute payment if relegated, he wouldn't have any tax losses to claim against, so I don't think his heart is in the club, its just another tax loss to him, if he really cared for us, money would have been available for Mick to strengthen when we were 2nd In the table, also he never makes himself known to the fans, its all cloak and dagger secret hiding, and all the time ME is owning us, we wont see much if any funds come forward to build a better squad, will be very interesting to see if Mick stays if nothing in the way of funds is available next season, so my honest opinion is ME does not care, he must be the only owner of a football club that does not want promotion??

Hes not going to give away Cash like he has in the past. I think hes right to hold onto the purse string (in whats been the best season in years) and let the managers do what they do best...manage. Yes it would have been great with a little Investment when we were second or third,but thats no guarentee of success. Keane and Jewell pissed up a lot of Money for bugger all success,in were we went backwards.

There are Things i wish Mick would do differently so Im not 100% behind everything he does,like most he makes mistakes too. But i think by enlarge hes done a terrific job which NONE of us saw. Yes were feeling a Little flat after the poor run of late but there is still a lot to play for and many points up for grabs.

[arana peligrosa]

I don't believe also that Evans has the best interest of the club at heart. He never makes himself known, hides away etc, almost like a recluse... Is there indisputable evidence that he's even been at Portman Road or taken in a game ? Ok going to be embarrassed if he has been in attendance at some time or another but don't recall such a thing. As club owner it won't kill you to make a little effort or show some more interest but guess that's just his way of doing things.

It's things such as that, that can knock any confidence or positivity, it's almost like an apathy at times where the owner is concerned but don't want to speak to ill of him as I don't have all the facts regarding his activities. It's just the way he has presented himself.

For the last time one would hope, if we miss out on a promotion as it's looking more likely by each game, then McCarthy may just weigh up his options in the summer as decide to go elsewhere and provide someone else a challenge. Yes I don't want it to necessarily come to that, but guessing the manager may be attracted by another offer on the table, if he feels he can do no more here than he has already achieved.

This is merely going over old ground incidentally

[Dubai Blue]

I agree with the title of the thread. I watched the game on Saturday and I have to say that the result flattered Boro immensely, in the first half we played well and oh so nearly got the luck we deserved with the attempt off the post. We really snuffed out Boro on their own turf. In the second half all we really learned is that it's tough for MM to find a plan B with the resources that we have. When you have to chase the game you can get unlucky and after we went 4-2-4 that's what happened. Personally I'm not sure I would have done that, I would have been tempted to stick with 4-4-2 and swap Wood for Murphy but I guess MM knows best.

I saw plenty to be positive about on Saturday. If we play like that for the rest of the season we will have luckier days and secure our 5 wins IMO. Let's hope the team is positive against Bolton and take the chance to get above Brentford again.......

[barmy billy]

If we fail to gain promotion the club will have no-one to blame but itself.

With the size squad we have, the time to strengthen was when we were 2nd in the table. We had been playing above ourselves and it should have been obvious there was a good chance we would not be able maintain that level of play with the size of our squad.

MM will say he has strengthened his squad, but apart from Sears, what with? More journeymen past their best who were not playing first team football.

I think we have missed the boat now and can only cross our fingers and hope we benefit from others mistakes.

[Bluemike]

Some good and interesting views there, so should we still gain a place in the play offs will that be deemed a success ?

[Dubai Blue]

We didn't miss the boat yet chaps and the emergency loan window is open until 26th unless I got my dates wrong.....

[barmy billy]

Some good and interesting views there, so should we still gain a place in the play offs will that be deemed a success ?

Yes Mike, it will of course be success, but I feel both a place in the play-offs (or at one time the top two) could have been achieved so much more easily. I haven't expressed that very well, but I hope you get my point.

[hallamblue]

Eg speculate to accumulate.

[barmy billy]

Eg speculate to accumulate.

Precisely.

[Charnwood]

Some good and interesting views there, so should we still gain a place in the play offs will that be deemed a success ?

Yes Mike, it will of course be success, but I feel both a place in the play-offs (or at one time the top two) could have been achieved so much more easily. I haven't expressed that very well, but I hope you get my point.

I think we all do Barmy. Your view is one shared by the vast majority of fans who will all see any failure to make the play offs as a real missed opportunity which will have slipped away from us when it shouldn't have done.

Anyway Barmy, all is not lost yet as there are still almost 20% of the seasons total games still to play and some fans may be forgetting this.

[Mach_Polish_Blue]

OK, well it all depends on your outlook.

For some on here, the fact that at the start of the season we were not expected to make the play-offs means that they will be satisfied if we finish 7th or 8th because that would represent an improvement over last season. If people feel that, fair enough.

For me, I don't care what was expected before the season started, the fact is that at the turn of the year we were second. Our slide since then is, to me, unacceptable. Sure I blame ME for not backing the manager financially. But I also lay a certain amount of blame at the door of the manager for failing to address the slide, for being one-dimensional in his tactics, and for continually playing people out of position in really important areas (ie defence). The slide has been in progress since the start of January, yet still we see the same old tactics, team selections, and approach.

So, yes, if we fail now to make the play-offs I will consider the season to be nothing less than a failure and would be looking for a change of management/approach. Oh yes, and for ME to make some funds available for whoever is manager. I realise that ME is pi$$ed off at how much money was wasted by Keane and Jewell - but they were HIS appointments: HE got it wrong, and to punish current management by restricting funds now because of what has been wasted in the past suggests to me that his heart is not really in the club.

Agree with some parts of that Rossi.

Top 6 was a realistic expectation whereas top 2 wasn't in all honesty. However you're right in saying that Evans should have realised what a chance we had at New Year. We were flying, sitting firmly 2nd but he hasn't backed Mick in a significant way. That's been our best chance for decade to get out of this league and it might not happen again for a long time. It was unlikely to remain in the top 2 with the squad we have had therefore additions were imperative particularly in midfield area.

Marcus Evans has no longer this club in his heart ! If anyone thinks otherwise that's his prerogative. Compare him to Middlesbrough's Steve Gibson. The latter is in the constant dialogue with the fans, truly cares about his club.
Evans? In the first couple of years since he took over he would quite often underline in the match programmes that Ipswich Town was going to become a Premier League club. He wanted to keep our fans optimistic in his own way (instead of coming out and face us). Does he continue to appease Ipswich fans? Don't think so and there is no dialogue between him and fans. If HE HAD HELD IPSWICH TOWN IN HIS HEART he would have done something back in January !

Mick McCarthy.... this is out of order if you're asking for the change of manager. Yes it's been frustrating to see same old tactics, same old approach, failure to address our slide. Some fans' frustrations are understandable, I am among them too but asking for the new appointment is step too far. Who would you expect to come to us? If you are unhappy would you like Jewell or Keane to come back? Think about it. We won't approach a football club for a manager as Evans won't be willing to pay any compensation. In case of new manager it would be yet another one out of work who would 'love to prove himself'. Someone like Jewell and it all could end up in tears.

Even Mourinho wouldn't get promoted with us using freebies and loanees.

I totally agree with you re Evans' policy though. He's not even bothered to communicate with us fans and introduce his plans. While he's at the club we won't move forward. The only option to go ahead with him is to cease hiding behind FFP and back the manager.

If we don't go up which is very likely the most probable scenario is that Bishop and Mings will go and we're gonna get some out of contract bench warmers from Leeds or Reading.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

OK, well it all depends on your outlook.

For some on here, the fact that at the start of the season we were not expected to make the play-offs means that they will be satisfied if we finish 7th or 8th because that would represent an improvement over last season. If people feel that, fair enough.

For me, I don't care what was expected before the season started, the fact is that at the turn of the year we were second. Our slide since then is, to me, unacceptable. Sure I blame ME for not backing the manager financially. But I also lay a certain amount of blame at the door of the manager for failing to address the slide, for being one-dimensional in his tactics, and for continually playing people out of position in really important areas (ie defence). The slide has been in progress since the start of January, yet still we see the same old tactics, team selections, and approach.

So, yes, if we fail now to make the play-offs I will consider the season to be nothing less than a failure and would be looking for a change of management/approach. Oh yes, and for ME to make some funds available for whoever is manager. I realise that ME is pi$$ed off at how much money was wasted by Keane and Jewell - but they were HIS appointments: HE got it wrong, and to punish current management by restricting funds now because of what has been wasted in the past suggests to me that his heart is not really in the club.

Agree with some parts of that Rossi.

Top 6 was a realistic expectation whereas top 2 wasn't in all honesty. However you're right in saying that Evans should have realised what a chance we had at New Year. We were flying, sitting firmly 2nd but he hasn't backed Mick in a significant way. That's been our best chance for decade to get out of this league and it might not happen again for a long time. It was unlikely to remain in the top 2 with the squad we have had therefore additions were imperative particularly in midfield area.

Marcus Evans has no longer this club in his heart ! If anyone thinks otherwise that's his prerogative. Compare him to Middlesbrough's Steve Gibson. The latter is in the constant dialogue with the fans, truly cares about his club.
Evans? In the first couple of years since he took over he would quite often underline in the match programmes that Ipswich Town was going to become a Premier League club. He wanted to keep our fans optimistic in his own way (instead of coming out and face us). Does he continue to appease Ipswich fans? Don't think so and there is no dialogue between him and fans. If HE HAD HELD IPSWICH TOWN IN HIS HEART he would have done something back in January !

Mick McCarthy.... this is out of order if you're asking for the change of manager. Yes it's been frustrating to see same old tactics, same old approach, failure to address our slide. Some fans' frustrations are understandable, I am among them too but asking for the new appointment is step too far. Who would you expect to come to us? If you are unhappy would you like Jewell or Keane to come back? Think about it. We won't approach a football club for a manager as Evans won't be willing to pay any compensation. In case of new manager it would be yet another one out of work who would 'love to prove himself'. Someone like Jewell and it all could end up in tears.

Even Mourinho wouldn't get promoted with us using freebies and loanees.

I totally agree with you re Evans' policy though. He's not even bothered to communicate with us fans and introduce his plans. While he's at the club we won't move forward. The only option to go ahead with him is to cease hiding behind FFP and back the manager.

If we don't go up which is very likely the most probable scenario is that Bishop and Mings will go and we're gonna get some out of contract bench warmers from Leeds or Reading.

And just who do you think you are to judge my opinion? I was expressing my opinions in response to the question of another poster. If you disagree the fine, you're perfectly entitled to say so. But....calling my opinion 'out of order' is, well, basically out of order.
You have expressed strong opinions on this forum and on TWTD regarding the tactical shortcomings of MM, and also very strong opinions on a certain midfielder. I don't recall having responded disrespectfully to your opinions, kindly refrain from being disrespectful to mine.

[Mach_Polish_Blue]

OK, well it all depends on your outlook.

For some on here, the fact that at the start of the season we were not expected to make the play-offs means that they will be satisfied if we finish 7th or 8th because that would represent an improvement over last season. If people feel that, fair enough.

For me, I don't care what was expected before the season started, the fact is that at the turn of the year we were second. Our slide since then is, to me, unacceptable. Sure I blame ME for not backing the manager financially. But I also lay a certain amount of blame at the door of the manager for failing to address the slide, for being one-dimensional in his tactics, and for continually playing people out of position in really important areas (ie defence). The slide has been in progress since the start of January, yet still we see the same old tactics, team selections, and approach.

So, yes, if we fail now to make the play-offs I will consider the season to be nothing less than a failure and would be looking for a change of management/approach. Oh yes, and for ME to make some funds available for whoever is manager. I realise that ME is pi$$ed off at how much money was wasted by Keane and Jewell - but they were HIS appointments: HE got it wrong, and to punish current management by restricting funds now because of what has been wasted in the past suggests to me that his heart is not really in the club.

Agree with some parts of that Rossi.

Top 6 was a realistic expectation whereas top 2 wasn't in all honesty. However you're right in saying that Evans should have realised what a chance we had at New Year. We were flying, sitting firmly 2nd but he hasn't backed Mick in a significant way. That's been our best chance for decade to get out of this league and it might not happen again for a long time. It was unlikely to remain in the top 2 with the squad we have had therefore additions were imperative particularly in midfield area.

Marcus Evans has no longer this club in his heart ! If anyone thinks otherwise that's his prerogative. Compare him to Middlesbrough's Steve Gibson. The latter is in the constant dialogue with the fans, truly cares about his club.
Evans? In the first couple of years since he took over he would quite often underline in the match programmes that Ipswich Town was going to become a Premier League club. He wanted to keep our fans optimistic in his own way (instead of coming out and face us). Does he continue to appease Ipswich fans? Don't think so and there is no dialogue between him and fans. If HE HAD HELD IPSWICH TOWN IN HIS HEART he would have done something back in January !

Mick McCarthy.... this is out of order if you're asking for the change of manager. Yes it's been frustrating to see same old tactics, same old approach, failure to address our slide. Some fans' frustrations are understandable, I am among them too but asking for the new appointment is step too far. Who would you expect to come to us? If you are unhappy would you like Jewell or Keane to come back? Think about it. We won't approach a football club for a manager as Evans won't be willing to pay any compensation. In case of new manager it would be yet another one out of work who would 'love to prove himself'. Someone like Jewell and it all could end up in tears.

Even Mourinho wouldn't get promoted with us using freebies and loanees.

I totally agree with you re Evans' policy though. He's not even bothered to communicate with us fans and introduce his plans. While he's at the club we won't move forward. The only option to go ahead with him is to cease hiding behind FFP and back the manager.

If we don't go up which is very likely the most probable scenario is that Bishop and Mings will go and we're gonna get some out of contract bench warmers from Leeds or Reading.

And just who do you think you are to judge my opinion? I was expressing my opinions in response to the question of another poster. If you disagree the fine, you're perfectly entitled to say so. But....calling my opinion 'out of order' is, well, basically out of order.
You have expressed strong opinions on this forum and on TWTD regarding the tactical shortcomings of MM, and also very strong opinions on a certain midfielder. I don't recall having responded disrespectfully to your opinions, kindly refrain from being disrespectful to mine.

Where have I been disrespectful to you? What are you talking about? Because 'out of order' comment?

[Charnwood]

OK, well it all depends on your outlook.

For some on here, the fact that at the start of the season we were not expected to make the play-offs means that they will be satisfied if we finish 7th or 8th because that would represent an improvement over last season. If people feel that, fair enough.

For me, I don't care what was expected before the season started, the fact is that at the turn of the year we were second. Our slide since then is, to me, unacceptable. Sure I blame ME for not backing the manager financially. But I also lay a certain amount of blame at the door of the manager for failing to address the slide, for being one-dimensional in his tactics, and for continually playing people out of position in really important areas (ie defence). The slide has been in progress since the start of January, yet still we see the same old tactics, team selections, and approach.

So, yes, if we fail now to make the play-offs I will consider the season to be nothing less than a failure and would be looking for a change of management/approach. Oh yes, and for ME to make some funds available for whoever is manager. I realise that ME is pi$$ed off at how much money was wasted by Keane and Jewell - but they were HIS appointments: HE got it wrong, and to punish current management by restricting funds now because of what has been wasted in the past suggests to me that his heart is not really in the club.

Agree with some parts of that Rossi.

Top 6 was a realistic expectation whereas top 2 wasn't in all honesty. However you're right in saying that Evans should have realised what a chance we had at New Year. We were flying, sitting firmly 2nd but he hasn't backed Mick in a significant way. That's been our best chance for decade to get out of this league and it might not happen again for a long time. It was unlikely to remain in the top 2 with the squad we have had therefore additions were imperative particularly in midfield area.

Marcus Evans has no longer this club in his heart ! If anyone thinks otherwise that's his prerogative. Compare him to Middlesbrough's Steve Gibson. The latter is in the constant dialogue with the fans, truly cares about his club.
Evans? In the first couple of years since he took over he would quite often underline in the match programmes that Ipswich Town was going to become a Premier League club. He wanted to keep our fans optimistic in his own way (instead of coming out and face us). Does he continue to appease Ipswich fans? Don't think so and there is no dialogue between him and fans. If HE HAD HELD IPSWICH TOWN IN HIS HEART he would have done something back in January !

Mick McCarthy.... this is out of order if you're asking for the change of manager. Yes it's been frustrating to see same old tactics, same old approach, failure to address our slide. Some fans' frustrations are understandable, I am among them too but asking for the new appointment is step too far. Who would you expect to come to us? If you are unhappy would you like Jewell or Keane to come back? Think about it. We won't approach a football club for a manager as Evans won't be willing to pay any compensation. In case of new manager it would be yet another one out of work who would 'love to prove himself'. Someone like Jewell and it all could end up in tears.

Even Mourinho wouldn't get promoted with us using freebies and loanees.

I totally agree with you re Evans' policy though. He's not even bothered to communicate with us fans and introduce his plans. While he's at the club we won't move forward. The only option to go ahead with him is to cease hiding behind FFP and back the manager.

If we don't go up which is very likely the most probable scenario is that Bishop and Mings will go and we're gonna get some out of contract bench warmers from Leeds or Reading.

And just who do you think you are to judge my opinion? I was expressing my opinions in response to the question of another poster. If you disagree the fine, you're perfectly entitled to say so. But....calling my opinion 'out of order' is, well, basically out of order.
You have expressed strong opinions on this forum and on TWTD regarding the tactical shortcomings of MM, and also very strong opinions on a certain midfielder. I don't recall having responded disrespectfully to your opinions, kindly refrain from being disrespectful to mine.

I don't think any disrespect was intended Rossi, I think you've misinterpreted Mach's use of words. I may be wrong but I don't think so.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Agree with some parts of that Rossi.

Top 6 was a realistic expectation whereas top 2 wasn't in all honesty. However you're right in saying that Evans should have realised what a chance we had at New Year. We were flying, sitting firmly 2nd but he hasn't backed Mick in a significant way. That's been our best chance for decade to get out of this league and it might not happen again for a long time. It was unlikely to remain in the top 2 with the squad we have had therefore additions were imperative particularly in midfield area.

Marcus Evans has no longer this club in his heart ! If anyone thinks otherwise that's his prerogative. Compare him to Middlesbrough's Steve Gibson. The latter is in the constant dialogue with the fans, truly cares about his club.
Evans? In the first couple of years since he took over he would quite often underline in the match programmes that Ipswich Town was going to become a Premier League club. He wanted to keep our fans optimistic in his own way (instead of coming out and face us). Does he continue to appease Ipswich fans? Don't think so and there is no dialogue between him and fans. If HE HAD HELD IPSWICH TOWN IN HIS HEART he would have done something back in January !

Mick McCarthy.... this is out of order if you're asking for the change of manager. Yes it's been frustrating to see same old tactics, same old approach, failure to address our slide. Some fans' frustrations are understandable, I am among them too but asking for the new appointment is step too far. Who would you expect to come to us? If you are unhappy would you like Jewell or Keane to come back? Think about it. We won't approach a football club for a manager as Evans won't be willing to pay any compensation. In case of new manager it would be yet another one out of work who would 'love to prove himself'. Someone like Jewell and it all could end up in tears.

Even Mourinho wouldn't get promoted with us using freebies and loanees.

I totally agree with you re Evans' policy though. He's not even bothered to communicate with us fans and introduce his plans. While he's at the club we won't move forward. The only option to go ahead with him is to cease hiding behind FFP and back the manager.

If we don't go up which is very likely the most probable scenario is that Bishop and Mings will go and we're gonna get some out of contract bench warmers from Leeds or Reading.

And just who do you think you are to judge my opinion? I was expressing my opinions in response to the question of another poster. If you disagree the fine, you're perfectly entitled to say so. But....calling my opinion 'out of order' is, well, basically out of order.
You have expressed strong opinions on this forum and on TWTD regarding the tactical shortcomings of MM, and also very strong opinions on a certain midfielder. I don't recall having responded disrespectfully to your opinions, kindly refrain from being disrespectful to mine.

Where have I been disrespectful to you? What are you talking about? Because 'out of order' comment?

I took it to mean that you were saying that my opinion was out of order, because that's how it came across.
That - in my mind at least - is being disrespectful.
If you didn't intend it to come across like that then fine and I apologise for my response.

[Mach_Polish_Blue]

Rossi..... Never ever was my intention to be disrespectful and trust me you've taken my opinion in a wrong way. You don't need to apologise for your response. I'm neither offended nor sensitive.

I've merely found your comment quite astonishing as in my opinion 2 months of bad results is too quick to ask for a new manager. No-one, I mean no-one is going to get us of this league using freebies and loanees. It could only be worse situation than we have with Mick.
Yes I'm frustrated, tired and annoyed with his reluctance to make changes and halt the slide but nothing else.

Unless Evans changes his policy we're gonna rot in this league as long as he's in the club.

However I apologise if you have got offended.