Ambitious! You Must Be Joking.

[barmy billy]

Without going over the above excellent, forthright and well written posts I think the only thing that can be said with and certainty is that ITFC is consigned to Championship football for this coming season and probably beyond.

I still suspect Evans true motive for owning the club and I still thing McCarthy displays a lack of personal ambition (to manage in the Premiership) by going along with it.

A very sad state of affairs indeed.

[Bluemike]

Mach we can argue forever and a day about what is right and what is wrong and we will still never agree, personally I am glad the club are doing it the correct way. I don't know what is so hard to understand in that MM is still in talks with potential new signings so how can anyone say what our intentions are and how much we are prepared to spend, how much would you have quoted you would like us to spend pre season ? 2/3/4 Million ? So far we have spent 780K if the reports are correct, what the hell is the point in going out and spending say a Million on a winger if we have one (Stewart) already in the house ? I don't think MM or anyone else has ever doubted his ability, it was his attitude, fitness and application that saw him cast aside last season, maybe the guy has finally got himself together and can do the job required ? If so isn't it sensible not to spend another Million on someone else who for that money would probably be no better anyway. Lets face it whoever we did buy wouldn't be bloody good enough in most peoples eyes anyway.

When we sold Mings we did a deal to bring Fraser in on loan and on big wages let me add, we also got Brett Pitman for NOTHING, does that make him a waste of space and not a good signing because he was free ? Bloody good business if you ask me. As I have already said we probably still await much of the Mings money to be paid over while new contracts for MM & TC have been negotiated. The problem we are faced with is this, even if we spent say 6 Million it is a paltry sum compared to many of our rivals who have mega millions in parachute payments, who we could buy with that would probably be no different than bringing in the likes of Pitman, Berra, Skuse, Bialkowski, Knudsen, Bru etc etc for zilch. This lets splash the cash cobblers is a myth, it guarantees absolutely nothing unless you have mega Millions and even then you can c*ck it up (Derby, Brighton etc etc).

Our current policy has seen us finish in 6th & 7th the last two seasons so your theory of League One football doesn't stack up at all, in fact when we were spending 1.7 Million on Priskin, 1.5 Million on Taylor etc where were we again ?? Oh yeah rock bottom and cut adrift, but of course spending Millions is the way forward isn't it.

Yes Mike my theory of League One stacks up. Mick won't be with us forever and his job is the reason why we massively overachieved. Do you really believe many managers would have done the same under the rejects/loanees policy? This policy will bring the disaster (most probably under the different manager) sooner or later as it can only takes you so far.

Mike I know that Derby and Brighton failed to go up. What I want to see is intentions and ambitions from the clubs board. However there is no evidence of that. Just 'lets see what happens' approach.

MM isn't still in talks with potential new signings I believe. He previously has said that he's waiting until Premier League teams are sorted and then we'll try to get some loans.

Cameron Stewart ..... and you Mike say : 'what the hell is the point in going out and spending say a Million on a winger if we have one (Stewart) already in the house?'...... Dear Mike I think that giving him a 'chance' is a kind of desperation. Mick is going to give him that due to necessity rather than choice. He'd play in relegated team from League One last season, was told a few times there was no future for him at ITFC and all of sudden things have changed. Just because Super committed Marcus Evans isn't willing to sign quality wingers for us.

Mike you think our policy is a correct way. Fine you're entitled to that. I feel opposite and fear disaster in the next few years. Absolutely no hope of Premier League football and continue to be perennial Championship participants at best.

MM is in talks Mach with possible signings, he is saying it on a daily basis, unfortunately as Hallam has pointed out elsewhere he is having little luck so far. Of course MM wont be with us forever but trying to second guess when he goes and who comes in, never mind how good or bad the new manager may do is pointless, it could be years or it could be tomorrow.

Mach I really don't think it is a "lets see what happens" approach at all, I doubt very much the likes of MM and Bryan Klug would be working in an enviroment like that, give them some credit ! Marcus Evans is a Billionaire and a very successful businessman, I can't answer why he will only spend what he will only spend but it certainly isn't his intention for ITFC to get nowhere, all this talk about tax evasion etc is pure crap, nobody on here or anywhere else knows enough about tax to comment on it.

I do think our policy is the correct way, given our debts and fairly recent brush with liquidation etc, I also accept it is not ideal but I am certainly more understanding of it than most, I also repeat what I said at the start of the season and that was we needed 3 or 4 good new additions to the squad, so far we have Two but I will bet we still see at least a couple more, even if it is after the season kicks off. We could well be perennial Championship competitors but that is better than going bust again, just becuase ME owes "himself" the 87 Million is no reason to forget that as a going concern or a business, call it what you will we racked up obscene amounts of debt through incompetency and I for one still feel ashamed my club could do it, to go out and shaft local businesses and then start throwing millions around again is immoral and totally wrong. We are where we are and considering all of the above I believe we have done bloody well the last 2 years and I really don't agree with those that knock our "lack of ambition", for me they are dillusional.