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Loan after loan after loan after loan + freebies

Post by Mach_Polish_Blue » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:45 am

Jewell times are officially back !!!

What we as fans have done to be treated like that by that worm Evans? No interest, not even a dab of interest to make us stronger, better and progressive. What the f**k is the point of his ownership?

Dreadful times for our wonderful club. The destination must be the only one. It's League One. If not this season then certainly in the next 2-3 years.

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Post by K L Blue » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:34 am

I only have one question for the club Mach

What happened to the million pound bids we put in, and who were they for?(I know deals don't get done on hearsay)

Or was this just a smoke screen to appease the fans?

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Post by jimmyt » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:52 am

K L Blue wrote:I only have one question for the club Mach

What happened to the million pound bids we put in, and who were they for?(I know deals don't get done on hearsay)

Or was this just a smoke screen to appease the fans?

If you make a £2m bid for a £4m player - guess what?

KL do you think the 'bids' were serious or just an exercise in appearing to be seen to do something........

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Post by Mach_Polish_Blue » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:39 pm

K L Blue wrote:I only have one question for the club Mach

What happened to the million pound bids we put in, and who were they for?(I know deals don't get done on hearsay)

Or was this just a smoke screen to appease the fans?
I firmly believe some of that was the lies from the club.

I can see a list of strikers that have been signed up by other Championship clubs. There is a few of them whereas it's 5 months since we've sold Murphy and no money spent on a replacement. Other clubs are able to sign strikers. We somehow can't.

That worm Evans is a cancer of Ipswich Town. He's been ruining our club for a while.

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Post by charlton837 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:03 pm

Matt Taylor from Bristol Rovers went for £300k, he may not make it but at least hes in form and doing well at this moment. Not a target man though. If we were so desperate for a target man we surely must have been able to find one. Moore looked ok last night but its a bit much to heap pressure on him to be our savior up there. We seem to have quite a few players now, MM already doesn't know his best team, he has no chance now. What midfield do we play? Fill it with loanees or play people like Bishop? Up front, does he stick with Didz, Pitman, Sears, or does he play Moore and Samuel?

He really doesn't have a clue what system or which personnel he wants to play, he has completely run out of ideas imo

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Post by Mach_Polish_Blue » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:19 pm

charlton837 wrote:Matt Taylor from Bristol Rovers went for £300k, he may not make it but at least hes in form and doing well at this moment. Not a target man though. If we were so desperate for a target man we surely must have been able to find one. Moore looked ok last night but its a bit much to heap pressure on him to be our savior up there. We seem to have quite a few players now, MM already doesn't know his best team, he has no chance now. What midfield do we play? Fill it with loanees or play people like Bishop? Up front, does he stick with Didz, Pitman, Sears, or does he play Moore and Samuel?

He really doesn't have a clue what system or which personnel he wants to play, he has completely run out of ideas imo
Indeed. Over midfield is ridiculously overpacked too.

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Post by ashfordblue » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:48 pm

Mac: :roll: I think with the loan and other cheap signings we have done in this window, what is it 7 signings?? will only compound Micks selection problems, he's brought in players that have little or no chance of getting a game, only Taylor & the Leeds player will probably get regular game time, the others maybe bench warming, we only needed a Murphy replacement striker not all these last minute signings that cant get game time with their past clubs, and as for the 6 & 7 figure sums put in for other players, it was definitely a smoke screen, and was never ever going to happen, it was to try and build the season ticket holders confidence to renew, but as you saw from the lowest crowd in 17 years it aint working, I finally think that fans have had enough of the bullshit info from upstairs, and Crap performances turned out by MM, I mean at home 3-5-2 WTF was that all about, sorry but our club is slowly but surly heading in the wrong direction, the only hope we have is on two things, ME sells up, and MM & TC go, and lets get some organisation back to our club.

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Post by Magicmark » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:10 pm

jimmyt wrote:
K L Blue wrote:I only have one question for the club Mach

What happened to the million pound bids we put in, and who were they for?(I know deals don't get done on hearsay)

Or was this just a smoke screen to appease the fans?

If you make a £2m bid for a £4m player - guess what?

KL do you think the 'bids' were serious or just an exercise in appearing to be seen to do something........[/quote

Don't think there's any conspiracy there, we just can't afford 4 million plus for players.No harm in putting in a cheeky bid.

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Post by K L Blue » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:06 pm

jimmyt wrote:
K L Blue wrote:I only have one question for the club Mach

What happened to the million pound bids we put in, and who were they for?(I know deals don't get done on hearsay)

Or was this just a smoke screen to appease the fans?

If you make a £2m bid for a £4m player - guess what?

KL do you think the 'bids' were serious or just an exercise in appearing to be seen to do something........
the whole point of starting low is so you can go up, but Grayson said that for 4 million he would be ours, that was their starting point, the word that springs to mind is "negotiate" ok, it would cost us more, but not £4 million(well it didn't even cost £2 million in the end)

And to be honest, the synic in me says it was a smoke screen, rather than an actual bid

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:41 pm

I think the bids were true and serious offers what we deemed fair prices for the players we sought. Let's not kid ourselves, we all know for a fact teams become greedy rip off merchants in this January window, yesterday ridiculous amounts of money spent proves it. I will ask anyone this, before we knew our supposed target and had we all been asked about our feelings on spending 3+ Million on Jordan Hugill, 2 Million on Marley Watkins, 4 Million on Danny Ward, 1.5+ Million on Conor Washington and whoever else we have been linked with for seven Figure sums I bet nearly all Town fans would have said "who are these players for that kind of money, no thanks" so what the hell is the sense of then upping the offers just to bring players in to the club ? It makes no sense at all.

Others were linked to us through the media, not the club, Matty Taylor, Connor Chaplin, Omar Bogle etc etc but none of them are a target man which is what we really need and tried to buy so it'sd not a case that we have missed out on them cus we never went after them, nor did we really need them I guess even if I do like Matt Taylor.

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Post by Mach_Polish_Blue » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:15 am

Mike you ask about the sense of upping offers. The answer is just to get strikers because we don't score goals. It's only Lawrence's goals that keep our heads above the water.
So instead of upping our bids does it make sense then to use the money to contribute in some poxy loanees' and freebies' wages who won't be at Ipswich beyond May? Is it more sensible then?

I had to hear all those lame excuses following Murphy's sale and lack of replacement: 'we had to let him go blah blah, money too good to turn down, unfortunately no time left in August to find a replacement blah blah'.

The club had had 4 months to make a list of possible targets here and abroad. And nothing was done in January. Yet another excuses : 'our seven figure bids got knocked back'. Seems like it's somehow only Ipswich Town whose 'seven figure' bids got knocked back. Other clubs have signed strikers. Ipswich Town haven't. And this transfer window was a farce for Ipswich and yet another proof of Evans' 'intentions'.

Yes Mike we needed some of these names that's been mentioned because we are among the lowest scorers in the league.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:00 am

I get what you are sayimg Mach I really do cus on the face of it the strikers look the issue here, but they aren't. I believe it is the total lack of creativity frome the midfield and from the back that is basically creating nothing for the strikers to feed off, it'ds not as if the strikers are missing numerous chances cus they aint. I think MM and the staff think the same thing which is why they have brought in Diagouraga, Huws, and Rowe, in the hope of improving the supply to the attack. Steven taylor was a no brainer what with our injury problems, Keiffer Moore gives us something different with his height etc and so gfar he looks promising, as for Samuel well he clearly came in to give us an extra body when none of the bids bore fruit.

Bogle, Taylor, Hugill, Watkins, Chaplin, are they really any better than Pitman, McGoldrick and Sears ?: No of course they aren't and there is no point in bringing them in for the sake of it. As I say we need to get the team functioning and creating so the strikers actually have something to feed off.

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Post by Andym » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:51 am

The problem is McGoldrick and Pitman aren't the players to lead an attack. Sears at least has pace and movement off the ball. None or very good in the air. McGoldrick can hold the ball up. We do lack something up front. But we don't really need someone who pays off someone else. It's the "someone else" to play off that we need.

But as Bluemike says, the lack of creativity in midfield is as much or more of an issue. Mach quite rightly says that Lawrence's goals are keeping is afloat. He scores not just because he is more talented than the rest of the squad put together, but also because he gets forward and shoots. One-goal Skuse doesn't. Can't-tackle-won't-tackle Bru doesn't. Ward did for the first few games until it was coached out of him.

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Post by RRanger » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:53 pm

I really hope MM starts Moore on saturday. With his height he could be the Murphy replacement we've been looking for. Pitman wil only score goals playing off someone else and Moore could fill that role. If that means not starting with Sears and McGoldrick then so be it. After all they haven't exactly been banging in the goals and can always be brought on later in the game. On second thoughts I think I'd rather have either McGoldrick or Sears playing off Moore as Pitman seems to score more goals coming off the bench.He was abysmal against Derby and should have been substituted much earlier.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:53 am

Yes I agree with that ranger, I would love to see Moore getting a start, it is one thing looking good for 15 minutes against knackered defenders but something quite different in from the off, that said what I have seen of him I have been impressed with, I think Pitman would benefit greatly from playing off him too, more so than Didsy who would struggle to keep up !! As for sears, taxi to anywhere please.

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Post by hallamblue » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:19 am

He actually looks surprisingly nimble with the ball to his feet. I like the look of him so far.

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