Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

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Candidates for Next Manager

Cowley
15
15%
McClaren
4
4%
Grayson
1
1%
Mowbray
14
14%
Davies
0
No votes
Bilic
7
7%
Curbishly
3
3%
Clarke
6
6%
Burley
8
8%
Warburton
12
12%
Hurst
27
26%
Redknapp
2
2%
Pardew
3
3%
 
Total votes: 102

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Post by Shed on tour » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:18 am

Well if Evans thinks people are going to come back if he appoints Pardew then that would just sum up his football knowledge.
Hopefully as Tang says this is just a knee-jerk reaction to a high-profile manager being out of work.

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Post by marko69 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:05 am

Someone has feckin chose Pardew on this poll? Fk sake.

Has Pardew been successful anywhere he’s been? I only relate to seeing him being sacked or wrestling opposition players to the ground on the touchline.

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:05 am

Don't particularly want Mowbray either.

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Post by charlton837 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:38 am

id be quite happy with Mowbray. Maybe not my first choice but certainly in my top 3. Hes got a slightly mixed history in management, done some decent jobs, struggled in others. However I do think he has some qualities to offer here and I think he could get the crowd back on side. He believes in playing the right way and id hope he can help develop our youngsters.

Id prefer Hurst but if we got Mowbray id still be happy. Pardew on the other hand, not worth thinking about

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Post by Shed on tour » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:01 am

Bluemike wrote:Don't particularly want Mowbray either.
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I was told by somebody at the game on Monday who is a close friend of TM that as of this moment in time no contact had been made with Blackburn regarding him.
Of course the situation could change quickly as it is only early days yet.

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Post by Tangfastic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:23 am

marko69 wrote:Someone has feckin chose Pardew on this poll? Fk sake.

Has Pardew been successful anywhere he’s been? I only relate to seeing him being sacked or wrestling opposition players to the ground on the touchline.
Wasn’t that Nigel Pearson?

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Post by K L Blue » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:35 pm

Seems a new name to be added to the pile..............................


http://the72.co.uk/99989/st-mirren-boss ... etic-jobs/

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Post by derick_ipsw » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:38 pm

Cowley plays the MM way, so we definitely don't want that.

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Post by charlton837 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:59 pm

derick_ipsw wrote:Cowley plays the MM way, so we definitely don't want that.
im not sure about that, in fact im not 100% what way Cowley plays. What I do know is that over 2 games they played us off the park last year. In non league he was clearly playing with Rhead upfront and knocking balls to him but whether that's his style im not sure.

I don't get all this MM way and Cowley way etc. For me the problem with the "MM way" is there was no identity. I have no issue with being a reasonably direct team if done in a way that shows attacking intent and creates chances. The reality is over the last couple of seasons we hardly create a chance of note. Gary Rowett is known to be quite direct, but I don't see his style as one I couldn't watch. He mixes things up a bit depending on his players and im sure Cowley would do. Its all about having an identity and getting everyone onside (including the supporters).

Im not saying Cowley is my first choice but I wouldn't be that disappointed to see him here

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:20 pm

I’m not feeling very inspired :(

How about the club going further afield and bringing in a relatively unknown young manager from outside of the UK ?

This said unless ME pumps in some financial investment to freshen up the squad the new guy will be on a loser anyway.

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:22 pm

For me Derick is right, ive seen Lincoln more than just against us and it is very direct and unattractive, we need change.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:56 pm

marko69 wrote:Someone has feckin chose Pardew on this poll? Fk sake.

Has Pardew been successful anywhere he’s been? I only relate to seeing him being sacked or wrestling opposition players to the ground on the touchline.
Wasn't he manager of West Ham when they overcame us in those two play-off games a few years back, actually taking the London club to the EPL with victory over Preston in the end game. Not only that, came within seconds of an FA Cup Final victory over Liverpool the year after. People can argue 'til their heart's content but it's not as if he's been completely without any success during his managerial time.

Furthermore, believe took Crystal Palace to an FA Cup Final a year or two back if correct.

The thing is, Pardew now appears favorite for the imminent vacancy that McCarthy is set to leave behind. One in the eye for those who dispute his potential arrival, but I'd be willing to allow him a chance. People can berate candidates until they actually arrive in the position, but until they've been given an opportunity to achieve here, seem prepared to allow them that chance and see what occurs.

Just for the record, names such as Tim Sherwood and a partnership of Kuqi / Darren Bent were also available , but was quick in deciding this at best, was a flawed option.

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Post by Tangfastic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:13 pm

saint jude wrote:
marko69 wrote:Someone has feckin chose Pardew on this poll? Fk sake.

Has Pardew been successful anywhere he’s been? I only relate to seeing him being sacked or wrestling opposition players to the ground on the touchline.
Wasn't he manager of West Ham when they overcame us in those two play-off games a few years back, actually taking the London club to the EPL with victory over Preston in the end game. Not only that, came within seconds of an FA Cup Final victory over Liverpool the year after. People can argue 'til their heart's content but it's not as if he's been completely without any success during his managerial time.

Furthermore, believe took Crystal Palace to an FA Cup Final a year or two back if correct.

The thing is, Pardew now appears favorite for the imminent vacancy that McCarthy is set to leave behind. One in the eye for those who dispute his potential arrival, but I'd be willing to allow him a chance. People can berate candidates until they actually arrive in the position, but until they've been given an opportunity to achieve here, seem prepared to allow them that chance and see what occurs.

Just for the record, names such as Tim Sherwood and a partnership of Kuqi / Darren Bent were also available , but was quick in deciding this at best, was a flawed option.
It was you who voted for him then. :)

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Post by charlton837 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:55 pm

saint jude wrote:
marko69 wrote:Someone has feckin chose Pardew on this poll? Fk sake.

Has Pardew been successful anywhere he’s been? I only relate to seeing him being sacked or wrestling opposition players to the ground on the touchline.
Wasn't he manager of West Ham when they overcame us in those two play-off games a few years back, actually taking the London club to the EPL with victory over Preston in the end game. Not only that, came within seconds of an FA Cup Final victory over Liverpool the year after. People can argue 'til their heart's content but it's not as if he's been completely without any success during his managerial time.

Furthermore, believe took Crystal Palace to an FA Cup Final a year or two back if correct.

The thing is, Pardew now appears favorite for the imminent vacancy that McCarthy is set to leave behind. One in the eye for those who dispute his potential arrival, but I'd be willing to allow him a chance. People can berate candidates until they actually arrive in the position, but until they've been given an opportunity to achieve here, seem prepared to allow them that chance and see what occurs.

Just for the record, names such as Tim Sherwood and a partnership of Kuqi / Darren Bent were also available , but was quick in deciding this at best, was a flawed option.
he has good successes and spectacular failures in him, and hes a thoroughly dislikeable pr*ck of a guy too which doesn't help. He seems to go on really good runs and really bad ones, but when on a bad one he doesn't ever seem to turn it around.

Southampton - He did get them to Wembley in the JPT and got them promoted (I think?)
Crystal Palace - He did brilliantly at first but once they started losing he went on a disastrous run, they went ages and ages without winning a game
Newcastle - Did a good job for one season there
West Brom - Worst manager in their history with a 5% win rate, albeit with an already doomed squad
Charlton - Didn't he get them relegated from the Championship once upon a time?

He has failed at too many clubs for my liking. The one thing I hate about football is the way clubs go for managers who have had multiple failures just because they are seen as a safe option, all this means is we end up with a closed pool of manager, the premier league is the worst league in the world for this. Its almost like a closed club where once your in you will get job after job. I think you have to think a bit more outside the box, look for someone who has something to prove and is on his way up, Pardew is most certainly on his way down and I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.

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Post by herforder » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:13 pm

Quickly turned the WBA dressing room toxic. Given the pressures they’re under, someone to unite, inspire and install some fight into a struggling squad was required. Pardew managed, in a short time, to achieve the exact opposite. Whatever MM’s shortcomings, gaining players’ respect and unity was not amongst them.

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Post by marko69 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:30 pm

tangfastic wrote:
marko69 wrote:Someone has feckin chose Pardew on this poll? Fk sake.

Has Pardew been successful anywhere he’s been? I only relate to seeing him being sacked or wrestling opposition players to the ground on the touchline.
Wasn’t that Nigel Pearson?
Yes, I think you are correct....... but Pardew definitely done something, a fake headbutt maybe? Last season?

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Post by marko69 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:35 pm

K L Blue wrote:Seems a new name to be added to the pile..............................


http://the72.co.uk/99989/st-mirren-boss ... etic-jobs/

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100% no for me, KL.

Unproven at a much higher level. I watched St Mirren on BBC Alba the other week..... my God they were Shyte. How they are top of the league by double figures is beyond me.

Don’t forget Robbie Neilson as well. He won the Championship league by miles witn the Jambos when Hibs and The Rangers were in the same league, and then he was doing not too bad in the SPL......., then went to MK Dons in League One and was a total failure.

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Post by Watership Down » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:43 pm

How would you feel if MM went to another team and started poaching players,Bailkowski, Waghorn.... comes to mind and a few others

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Post by marko69 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:45 pm

He’d more likely poach Skuse, Chambers and K-Nood-Zen......, the majority of fans will no doubt be pleased with that.

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:43 pm

Mick now 3/1 favourite to replace Alan Pardew at West Brom.

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Post by ashfordblue » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:51 pm

Charnwood wrote:Mick now 3/1 favourite to replace Alan Pardew at West Brom.
:D :D :D :D this gets better all the time.

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Post by herforder » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:54 pm

Charnwood wrote:Mick now 3/1 favourite to replace Alan Pardew at West Brom.
Hope the bookies are spot on with this; but not the reverse though! Heaven forbid we end with a straight swap outcome. Nooooooo!

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Post by ashfordblue » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:55 pm

:D :D Yep if Mogga gets the Ipswich managers job I would be very happy, With Mark Venus assisting, and George Burley taking deadbeat Milne's place, lets get back to how we are supposed to be running this club, start by bringing more of the youth through like we used to do.

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Post by herforder » Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:58 pm

Burley’s lengthy comments in today’s local press, effectively advising ME to go the extra mile to bring Mowbray to PR, may well be with the latter’s knowledge. Taking on board Shed’s comment that TM (or Blackburn?) had received no formal contact to date, and TM clearly not in a position to publicly encourage interest, using Burley as a third party to run a flag up the pole is fairly plausible. Pretty sure both parties remain in contact.

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:57 pm

Hey Ash, I take it you have given up on McLaren and his consortium now ?

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:57 pm

Thinking about it seriously I think I’d prefer Mowbray over Cowley if only for his experience.

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Post by herforder » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:22 pm

Young, upcoming, coaching biased manager versus more experienced, less track suit more suit, manager. Risks exist with both options, particularly given the fairly unique relationship that will exist between owner and manager, and the reality that whoever comes in will have to operate on a very modest budget. One of the key issues ME needs to grasp, however, is that having the qualities and credibility to gain the early support and cooperation of the dressing room is probably the single most critical factor when making his decision.

I believe that when MM requested the meeting with ME to discuss the way forward, he firmly believed that a contract extension would be the outcome. MM’s standpoint, however, was that ‘marking time’ was not something he wanted to continue, and that an assurance regarding a modest increase in funding was sought. It didn’t come, therefore contract discussions did not happen.

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Post by marko69 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:46 pm

8 votes for Warburton.

Were those 8 people stuck in a Chilean mine when he was Forest boss?

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Post by Shed on tour » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:45 am

herforder wrote:Burley’s lengthy comments in today’s local press, effectively advising ME to go the extra mile to bring Mowbray to PR, may well be with the latter’s knowledge. Taking on board Shed’s comment that TM (or Blackburn?) had received no formal contact to date, and TM clearly not in a position to publicly encourage interest, using Burley as a third party to run a flag up the pole is fairly plausible. Pretty sure both parties remain in contact.
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Think you could very well be right.
I didn't ask the person concerned directly about TM and the possibility of him coming back to PR as tbh I didn't like too or thought it was appropriate to do so. I just asked them who they thought might get the job and they said "no idea but all they knew was that there had been no official approach for TM yet, with the emphasis on the yet.

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Post by ashfordblue » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:40 pm

Bluemike wrote:Hey Ash, I take it you have given up on McLaren and his consortium now ?
Yep I decided its not all about ME :lol: :lol: :roll: but what's best for another new start

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