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Who will land the knockout blow on Boxing Day?

Ipswich Town win
4
33%
Draw
1
8%
Fulham win
7
58%
 
Total votes: 12

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Post by Tangfastic » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:38 pm

We're lucky we're still in this game.

Absolutely terrible... at home to a decent crowd on Boxing Day.

Should be all over by now.... completely undeserved 0-1. Part of me wants us to get hammered instead of a 0-1 so no cracks can be papered over. Make that 0-2 now :(

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Post by Magicmark » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:39 pm

2 down now at home..A change in management is needed now.

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Post by Tangfastic » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:47 pm

Third substitution? No of course not , we need two defensive midfielders when we're 0-2down.

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Post by phily bon bon » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:50 pm

His time is up. Mick has lost the plot. I never expected to win two games on the trot this year but this is relegation form and the players can't muster two wins in four months p*ss quite frankly p*ss fing poor.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:03 pm

Jesus Christ if Mick McCarthy owned a funeral parlor no-one would die. After the Wigan game there was reason for expectation but put the club against any opposition that are half-capable, we fall like a pack of cards.

Apparently Fulham had more possession than Linda Blair, any chances we created ultimately came to nothing and bottom line, there can be few complaints about the eventual winners. History seemed ominous before start of play as on this day back in 1963 this opposition inflicted a ten goal reverse, but the more interesting aspect is Fulham haven't beaten us in the league from that day on until today ?

Not really worried about the Lincoln game, we're going to make little impression (once again) in the competition, so all 'focus' can be on the league, but seriously, what is anyone at this club hoping to achieve by way of that by end of season ?

Someone made a point on a rival site that McCarthy merely seems intent on hanging around until he can receive a nice paycheck by way of dismissal.

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Post by ashfordblue » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:25 pm

:mrgreen: And to all the fans who went today for a Boxing day special NOT, we had to lose this as we cant string two wins together, anyone who thinks that we will be in the top half of the table come April your going to be mighty disappointed, in the January window I'll bet we sell Webster, plus a couple of other good players, and don't sign anyone decent, this is relegation form, we struggle against the bottom clubs, so what will happen in the next few games, Oh I do wish Mick and Terry would just Go, the fans have suffered long enough wasting their hard earned money on results like this, but old bone head wont go he's too comfortable, allowed to turn out S**t like this, week after week after week, and I hope the fans do a mass exodus, and then perhaps ME will wake up, something has got to happen, why do we have to be saddled with this awful crap manager for so long, there that's my moan out of the way.

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Post by hallamblue » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:43 pm

Truly shocking performance. . . . . again!

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Post by Frosty » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:12 pm

Well ..... That would rip your Santa sack .... Wouldn't it!

Interesting to see what happens during the transfer window, but suspect we will be a seller rather than a buyer as usual.

Hope everyone had a good Christmas Day with family and friends

Cheers Dave

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Post by marko69 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:31 pm

Same to you too Frosterino, and Get Well Soon Lucille Ball.

I'll leave offering ITFC opinions, but I'll read a match report if it arrives.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:40 pm

Well its just not good enough, not just the standard of football but also the lack of communication from ME. We as fans deserve an explanation as to where the club are going and what exactly ME intends to do with ITFC. At this moment in time the club is quickly going down the pan. Terrible football, attendances falling and fans totally frustrated with what is happening to our club. If i was the owner of ipswich i would be very concerned. ME does not seem to worry one bit and i am at a loss to understand this. He supports the manager and gets Milne to continuously give media spin to let everyone know we have a long term plan. Show your face ME and sort out this mess or sell up and let someone who gives a sh*t make itfc competitive again
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Post by Shed on tour » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:40 pm

The only surprise about today's result was that it only ended up 2-0.
We were chasing shadows nearly all the game and it was a truly gutless performance. After the win at Wigan I asked bluemike if he thought that result could be a turning point in our season or just a case of papering over the cracks and today we got the answer.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:46 pm

Shed on tour wrote:The only surprise about today's result was that it only ended up 2-0.
We were chasing shadows nearly all the game and it was a truly gutless performance. After the win at Wigan I asked bluemike if he thought that result could be a turning point in our season or just a case of papering over the cracks and today we got the answer.
I did post a sarcastic reply when we beat Wigan and got shot down for it. Turning point it certainly wasnt, just a tight game against another poor team. We will not be any match for any half decent team in the championship as long as MM is in charge.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:47 pm

Shed on tour wrote:The only surprise about today's result was that it only ended up 2-0.
We were chasing shadows nearly all the game and it was a truly gutless performance. After the win at Wigan I asked bluemike if he thought that result could be a turning point in our season or just a case of papering over the cracks and today we got the answer.
I did post a sarcastic reply when we beat Wigan and got shot down for it. Turning point it certainly wasnt, just a tight game against another poor team. We will not be any match for any half decent team in the championship as long as MM is in charge.

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Post by phily bon bon » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:26 pm

Mick will rightly get the criticism along with tc and as said they bloody deserve it. I would however like to know what the situation is Evans and what his intentions are for the club. It's great we do not chop and change the management every other season like some Micky mouse clubs I could mention, but something is clearly rotten in the state of Denmark. I believe that the club is only a tax deduction pawn for his companys and the worse the club performs the more he can write off and get back more of his cash. I don't believe that his heart is in our club. Deeply deeply disappointed and worried about the future of this club..

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Post by Bluemike » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:56 pm

Today was truly dreadful, probably about as bad as it gets, outplayed from start to finish, hardly any efforts of note on target, passed off the pitch, second to virtually every ball, no cohesion to our play, zero tempo, movement was non existent, the list goes on, Fulham actually looked like world beaters by comparison but they certainly have players that know how to do the basics like pass and move, sadly we didn't. At no point in that 95 minutes did we ever looked likely to score, or in fact compete. With the exception of Bart I struggle to single out any other player for praise at all, While I accept Mick has to take the lions share of the blame in this dismal situation we find ourselves in I cannot help but feel a few of the players need to take a long hard look at themselves too, I don't buy into this theory that they are being coached to play sh*te, I do not agree with it at all, they are at times going through the motions and today was most definitely one of those days.

Quite how it only ended up 0-2 god only knows, while there wasn't loads of chances raining down on our goal in the first half we still had Bart to thank for a excellent instinctive block from Martin which held it at 0-0 for a bit longer. I have no idea what the f*ck our wall and goalkeeper were thinking for the Freekick which gave Fulham a more than deserved lead, being virtually behind the wall you could see it was not positioned correctly or indeed long enough, I hope Sears was not meant to be on the end of the wall because the gap between himself and the next goon in the wall was big enough to allow Vanessa Feltz through it !! Bart's attempt to get across to save it was also pretty rank in truth.

The second half was a different story in terms of chances for the visitors, Bart made a couple of good saves while some unbelievable misses by the Fulham attack kept it respectable, it could so easliy have been 0-5 it was that one-sided. At the other end we did not trouble their keeper once, not an effort on target throughout the whole game as far as I can recall. I think I can recall a solitary passage of play that I would credit as being good football from us, aside from that we could not string more than a couple of decent passes together. Our defence was pulled about all over the place with the two Fullbacks once again so limited at the back or going forward, Berra & Webster without question came off second best to the Fulham attack, Pitman was totally isolated up front all first half while Skuse & Douglas had very poor games in the centre, I felt Dozzell was better than most without really needing to do much at all, a couple of good runs stood out for me. Didsy and Best came on second half and had very little impact, Didsy sprayed a few balls about but it was all very safe and didn't hurt Fulham at all, Sears & Lawrence had limited opportunities to get at the defence but when they did it was dealt with so easliy it was untrue, I doubt we would have scored if we were still playing now.

Bart (7) Chambo (5) Webster (5) Berra (5) Knudsen (5) Lawrence (6) Skuse (4) Douglas (4) Sears (5) Dozzell (6) Pitman (5)
SUBS :- Best (4) McGoldrick (6)

The gulf in class between the Two sides was embarrasing today and we show little signs of being able to string a run of decent results together, the crowd are turning more and more with each passing game, Evans, McCarthy and the players all now being targeted in larger numbers, there have been times in the past when I felt fans were turning on the manager way too soon, however even the most avid supporter of MM, myself included, has to draw the line before it becomes too late to rectify it without serious consequences and while I wish MM no harm and nor do I have the same hatred towards him as many clearly do it does get to the stage where a change has to be the way forward because their is little evidence of anything changing without that scenario, 26th December 2016 is the day I feel we reached that point. McCarthy OUT.

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Post by ashfordblue » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:03 pm

:evil: Mick will come outwith the same old excuses, talk about treat the fans with contempt, Mick just F**K off and take Terry and ME with you, absolutely disgraceful inept performances all the time, if you've got any respect you will walk out of this club and go back to Bromley where you live, pathetic excuse for a manager

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Post by number 9 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:11 pm

For Bluemike: Hear,hear!

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:16 pm

bluemike wrote:Today was truly dreadful, probably about as bad as it gets, outplayed from start to finish, hardly any efforts of note on target, passed off the pitch, second to virtually every ball, no cohesion to our play, zero tempo, movement was non existent, the list goes on, Fulham actually looked like world beaters by comparison but they certainly have players that know how to do the basics like pass and move, sadly we didn't. At no point in that 95 minutes did we ever looked likely to score, or in fact compete. With the exception of Bart I struggle to single out any other player for praise at all, While I accept Mick has to take the lions share of the blame in this dismal situation we find ourselves in I cannot help but feel a few of the players need to take a long hard look at themselves too, I don't buy into this theory that they are being coached to play sh*te, I do not agree with it at all, they are at times going through the motions and today was most definitely one of those days.

Quite how it only ended up 0-2 god only knows, while there wasn't loads of chances raining down on our goal in the first half we still had Bart to thank for a excellent instinctive block from Martin which held it at 0-0 for a bit longer. I have no idea what the f*ck our wall and goalkeeper were thinking for the Freekick which gave Fulham a more than deserved lead, being virtually behind the wall you could see it was not positioned correctly or indeed long enough, I hope Sears was not meant to be on the end of the wall because the gap between himself and the next goon in the wall was big enough to allow Vanessa Feltz through it !! Bart's attempt to get across to save it was also pretty rank in truth.

The second half was a different story in terms of chances for the visitors, Bart made a couple of good saves while some unbelievable misses by the Fulham attack kept it respectable, it could so easliy have been 0-5 it was that one-sided. At the other end we did not trouble their keeper once, not an effort on target throughout the whole game as far as I can recall. I think I can recall a solitary passage of play that I would credit as being good football from us, aside from that we could not string more than a couple of decent passes together. Our defence was pulled about all over the place with the two Fullbacks once again so limited at the back or going forward, Berra & Webster without question came off second best to the Fulham attack, Pitman was totally isolated up front all first half while Skuse & Douglas had very poor games in the centre, I felt Dozzell was better than most without really needing to do much at all, a couple of good runs stood out for me. Didsy and Best came on second half and had very little impact, Didsy sprayed a few balls about but it was all very safe and didn't hurt Fulham at all, Sears & Lawrence had limited opportunities to get at the defence but when they did it was dealt with so easliy it was untrue, I doubt we would have scored if we were still playing now.

Bart (7) Chambo (5) Webster (5) Berra (5) Knudsen (5) Lawrence (6) Skuse (4) Douglas (4) Sears (5) Dozzell (6) Pitman (5)
SUBS :- Best (4) McGoldrick (6)

The gulf in class between the Two sides was embarrasing today and we show little signs of being able to string a run of decent results together, the crowd are turning more and more with each passing game, Evans, McCarthy and the players all now being targeted in larger numbers, there have been times in the past when I felt fans were turning on the manager way too soon, however even the most avid supporter of MM, myself included, has to draw the line before it becomes too late to rectify it without serious consequences and while I wish MM no harm and nor do I have the same hatred towards him as many clearly do it does get to the stage where a change has to be the way forward because their is little evidence of anything changing without that scenario, 26th December 2016 is the day I feel we reached that point. McCarthy OUT.
How very very very fickle indeed. Lol

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Post by Bluemike » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:48 pm

It isn't fickle at all so stop being a tit, it it prats that change week in week out that are fickle, or stop going until we win and openly admit it, learn what fickle means before you use such big words.

I was at Wigan, I will be at QPR, Huddersfield, Preston, Rotherham etc etc etc, hardly fickle whether I want MM here or not, that is true support of my club pal.

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Post by marko69 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:57 pm

Thanks for the report Mike, depressing as it was. And definitely a big day for a supporter like yourself to re-evaluate the situation in great detail after this game......., definitely not even close to fickle, ....., although I do think ITNO1 (one of the more humorous among us) was joking.

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Post by Andym » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:04 pm

While I agree pretty well with Bluemike's report, there are one or two things I would like to add.

1. I have long felt that Sears is not able to play wide, but he actually played the whole of the first half at right back. No idea why; maybe we were so overrun. He actually did a reasonable job there, but it just emphasised how deep we were playing, and why we conceded so much ground and gave them so much room to play.

2. I have no idea why McGoldrick again started on the bench. When he came on at half time he shone like a diamond in the mud; someone who could actually see a pass and play it.

3. Skuse was largely responsible for the opening goal. He gave away possession with a terrible pass, and then "compensated" by fouling an opponent in an attempt to win it back, conceding a free kick in a dangerous position. 1 -0.

4. In the second half Douglas took on the deep role, allowing Skuse to get forward. It was possibly Skuse's most impressive 45 minutes that I can remember as he showed that he is capable of picking out quick forward passes.

5. Dozzell was dire. Tried to pass first touch nearly every time. Failed nearly every time.

6. Pitman showed that he cannot play on his own up front.

7. After half time when we switched to 3 at the back, we got caught out time and again with 4 against 3. The only surprise about the second goal was that it came from a corner rather than one of the many occasions when they should have scored from open play.

8.Once again we started so defensively. We made no attempt to get forward until after half time; i.e. until we were already losing.

I imagine McGoldrick can't understand why he hasn't started the last 2 games. He would have been - and was - so much more effective than Dozzell. He could hold the ball and pass it. With the players we have available, I'd play Bru instead of Douglas, McGoldrick instead of Dozzell, Sears or Best alongside Pitman so we actually pay 2 central strikers. Possibly try one or both of the young fullbacks. Not an ideal team but not sure we can do any better with the players that are available. But more than anything the players have to watch today's game endlessly until they see that it's so easy to pass to a teammate if they move into space and want the bloody thing. Yes, we were beaten by a better side. A good side even. But we were so poor, just sitting back, not moving and waiting to be beaten. This was Fulham, not Barcelona. The McCarthy way is just terrible. A different manager could do better witht eh dsame squad, something I have maintained for a long time.

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Post by Bluemike » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:15 pm

Pretty similar opinions Andy apart from how we saw Dozzell and Skuse which is odd as I am normally pro Skuse.

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Post by marko69 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:28 pm

Andy...... One or two things to add?...... Then you add 8!? Come on, man....... I'm reading this during the "Love Actually" commercials,....., pushed for time! :D

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Post by Bluemike » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:37 pm

marko69 wrote:Thanks for the report Mike, depressing as it was. And definitely a big day for a supporter like yourself to re-evaluate the situation in great detail after this game......., definitely not even close to fickle, ....., although I do think ITNO1 (one of the more humorous among us) was joking.
It can't be anything else but depressing marko, that is the reality of it all tonight.

As for ITNO1, if it was a tongue in cheek joke then fair enough I apologise, just pretty pissed off tonite and no way can anyone aim the fickle card at me.

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Post by marko69 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:43 pm

I think you can trust anyone on this site when they say, you are the furthest from fickle. You just need 4 new triple A's in the Sarco-meter, buddy! :D

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Post by bluejacko » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:57 pm

Well done all of you that have tried to make any sense of what is happening to our once great club! But I am sorry to say that at the momement while MM is in charge I cannot say I expect nothing less than what we got today and beginning to really not give a toss, l will still go in the vague hope of seeing some improvement but as they say I won't hold my breath.

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Post by Mr.Punch » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:10 pm

I sat down the entire game, not one thing to get excited about. I really do think I'm wasting my money.
This was just one more awful boring game and, as usual, we showed virtually nothing in attack.
I'm getting like I don't care anymore and I'm not the only one.
This has been going on too long, we need a change - any change.

Mick Mills was talking about Marcus Evans on Radio Suffolk after the game. When asked if he'd met him, Mick Mills, our most respected player, England Captain, etc etc, said "I've seen him but never spoken to him" Seriously? I find that astonishing and indicates to me that Evans is not even a football fan, despite what Milne &co say. As others have said, Evans needs to stop hiding behind Milne.

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Post by hallamblue » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:47 pm

Andym. I made exactly the same observations of Sears and remarked upon this to Mike during the game.

Pitman was essentially isolated up front because Lawrence and Sears spent virtually the whole of the first half tracking back and we're playing/ tackling/ covering both Knudsen and Chambers on the edge of our bloody penalty area! They should gave been in the opposition half, getting forward taking on Fulham RB and LB and getting ball in their sodding box.

THIS tactic by MICK McCarthy is what really pissed me off. He's so flucking negative that he had a the initiative to our opponents every bloody week.

1 up front, at home, is bloody scandalous.

Evans needs get his arse in gear and frankly either support McCarthy in a competitive financial manner or bloody well SELL UP and SOD OFF.

To continue as he us currently doing will see PR needing to close the upper tiers of all four stands next season - if not before the end of this one because thd gates will get below 10k as the fans stampede away from the Club.

Town haven't lost to Fulham for 53 years. Well thanks to Evans and McCarthy that record has well and truly gone.

As the Sir Bobby Robson Stand sang out today

"WE WANT OUR IPSWICH BACK"!

Evans ......Sort it, or f*ck off.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:30 am

It's easy to assume that of all Marcus Evans' business enterprises, Ipswich Town Football Club would seem the least relevant, or furthest detached from his immediate interests. This is the same individual that kept Keane and Jewell on for longer than was necessary, and how has McCarthy remained the longest serving championship manager (4 years +) at this club ? - look no further than the owner.

Anyone with a tangible concern for their investment would have acted long before they have and taken necessary actions before they continued into problem areas, but Evans isn't nowhere near commited enough to move us forward.

Got an owner and manager, walking around blind without a cane, both seemingly unaware of the asphyxiating effect their collective presence has on this club side. Lo and behold register a victory over Bristol City next up and all the undecided will rise up in unison and give McCarthy and owner plaudits and offer nothing but defense, but for many : it won't change or alter a whole damn lot.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:16 am

Saint. I think it's gone beyond that now. There is no comeback for Mick now. Evans can determine his future at this Club with how he conducts the business in a weeks time. I'm not holding my breath.

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