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can we get more points?

Ipswich Win
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Re: Premier League - Ipswich Town vs Brighton & Hove Albion Preview & Matchday Thread

Post by ITFC2024 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:30 pm

I think we’ve played very well. We’ve contained their possession and I don’t remember them having a decent shot on goal. If it wasn’t for their goal keeper we’d be two up.

We are giving them a bit too much space in midfield. Tighten up and win back possession and go for the counter. I had to laugh when Delap barreled over their defender. He’s definitely my favorite player!

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:33 pm

Not a brilliant game of football but we’re marginally the better of the two teams and could edge this in the second half. Delap and Hutchinson both look dangerous but we definitely need to create more. Whilst s draw looks the most likely outcome the game is so close either side could win this based on what we’ve seen in the first half. I just hope it’s the boys in blue.

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:49 pm

Disappointing goal to concede, both Davis and Walton really should have done better.

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:51 pm

Being a goal down is now the time when we could miss having Morsy on the pitch. The next half hour will tell.

We’re definitely not out of this yet but I’d take a draw at this stage.

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:00 pm

Clearly McJenna shares my view, let’s hope Morsy gets himself into the game quickly.

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Post by ashfordblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:02 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:49 pm
Disappointing goal to concede, both Davis and Walton really should have done better.
THIS LB AND DAVIS IS OUR ACHILLES HEEL LB we need to get this position sealed with a true LB and push Davis into midfield.

Sam and Taylor on for Cajuste and Burns,

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Post by Ricco » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:11 pm

Game over, shame. Would have been a huge 3pts could they manage it. Even united losing to Southampton, we could have aimed to drag them in to things. Hopefully they continue in to a crisis.

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Post by ashfordblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:12 pm

Only 2 subs aren't going to change this situation Hirst And Jack Clarke need to be brought on go for it Oops too late 0-2 now plus they have tightened their defence

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Post by ITFC2024 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:12 pm

Not sure what KM said at halftime, but we’ve literally sh*t the bed on a game we could have won. We’re going down.

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Post by mugen1 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:14 pm

Can't see a way out for us either :(

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Post by mendipblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:15 pm

Very poor performance tonight 🫣

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Post by mendipblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:26 pm

No urgency not enough forward passes slow just was not at it tonight. Why? 🙄🙅‍♂️

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:31 pm

A pretty poor second half to allow Brighton their first win in 9 games. So disappointing after the win against Chelsea. Unfortunately we don’t have a squad with enough depth to play three games in eight days.

Dreading playing Manchester City at the weekend.

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Post by ITFC2024 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:53 pm

Omari Hutchinson is overrated. I hope Philogene replaces him. Hutch should be a bench player coming on late in games. He clearly doesn’t have the wherewithal to be a regular starter. Sorry just how I feel.

Woolfenden needs to be loaned out, I’ve had enough of him. He must have his nose up KM’s arse because no way on earth should he start.

Broadhead should definitely start every match if he’s fit. The boy knows how to run at defenders and create chances, unlike Omari who trips over the ball and gives away possession. 20-million for him! I hope Philogene proves his worth.

I have faith in Greaves, although he tends to panic. Let’s nip that in the bud KM.

And speaking of the Messiah, wtf did you tell the players at halftime because it clearly didn’t work.

Sorry folks I’m just really frustrated! Fuckin Brighton beat us at home when we could have gained space from the relegation zone. They hadn’t won a game in 8, but trust us to give them a win!

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:54 pm

That went well, poor from teamsheet to final whistle with a half decent 25 mins before HT. Didn't get the starting line up at all.

If Morsy is fit he should have played, Phillips just hopeless. Hutchinson constantly making wrong decisions, Davis and Walton very iffy. Delap totally ineffective as little service. Broadhead very good first half.

Second half was pretty embarrassing really, we offered nothing, once they scored we looked L1 quality. We go Two down so take off our goalscorer, Hirst should have come on to partner Delap in a 4-4-2. They changed it and affected the game second half, we didn't until it's too late.

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Post by hallamblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:56 pm

Too much pissing about with it in and around our box again tonight ......GOAL!!! What a bloody surprise, not!

Back line of

Godfrey...O'Shea...Burgess...Greaves.....Davis

From now on please.


Edit.

We also clearly lack the pace in the team to break from a low block to get the ball AND NUMBERS up the pitch to support the stand alone Delap. Omari did hus best but was EVERY TIME shepherded off the ball by at least 2/3 Brighton players.... He and Delap were so far apart to be of any use to each other and therefore were playing in isolation the whole night.

As for Brightons " gamesmanship".... hardly a touch on them and down they went to a man every single time and the ref was suckered in. Us? We haven't got a bloody clue how to manage a game and win a free kicks. Not a bloody clue.

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Post by Blue Wilf » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:05 pm

OK first half. Awful second half. As soon as they scored, they put on a defender (why do we never do that to hold a lead...!!!!!). We then really gave up. To be fair, Brighton did a number on us. They were better all round and managed Delap so he hardly had a kick. Tonight won't relegate us - its the games we were ahead in and should have won.

Once again we had no plan b. It is becoming obvious to trams that we don't have one. Why p*ss around with it in our box with 10 mins to go and 0-2 down? Why not put on 2 strikers and at least try something different?

Pissed off really but not unexpected 🙄

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Post by hallamblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:09 pm

Brighton player should have been sent off for his challenge on Walton....


The fact that Brighton " managed" Delap doesnt surprise me. It's almost a one trick approach isn't it. He's playing up front on his own.. no one around him.... deny him the ball, double mark him When / if he gets the ball, he's not threat at all. He was trying to make his runs from the halfway inevitable... they were quicker than Delap, as they were man fir man all over the park.

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Post by mendipblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:25 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:54 pm
That went well, poor from teamsheet to final whistle with a half decent 25 mins before HT. Didn't get the starting line up at all.

If Morsy is fit he should have played, Phillips just hopeless. Hutchinson constantly making wrong decisions, Davis and Walton very iffy. Delap totally ineffective as little service. Broadhead very good first half.

Second half was pretty embarrassing really, we offered nothing, once they scored we looked L1 quality. We go Two down so take off our goalscorer, Hirst should have come on to partner Delap in a 4-4-2. They changed it and affected the game second half, we didn't until it's too late.
The only reason Morsy didn't start is because Phillips cant play against Man City and Morsy can't play 180 mins in 3 days 🙅‍♂️

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Post by ITFC2024 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:42 pm

I’m really hoping Philogene and Delap can find that connection they had at Hull. Clearly Omari is not the answer. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a role to play, but come on he doesn’t have a football brain. He’s athletic and can do flips on the odd occasion he scores, but the boy has no concept of holding up play, looking for Delap, passing and crossing to uncovered players, maintaining possession and taking a fuckin shot on goal!

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Post by ITFC2024 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:43 pm

mendipblue wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:25 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:54 pm
That went well, poor from teamsheet to final whistle with a half decent 25 mins before HT. Didn't get the starting line up at all.

If Morsy is fit he should have played, Phillips just hopeless. Hutchinson constantly making wrong decisions, Davis and Walton very iffy. Delap totally ineffective as little service. Broadhead very good first half.

Second half was pretty embarrassing really, we offered nothing, once they scored we looked L1 quality. We go Two down so take off our goalscorer, Hirst should have come on to partner Delap in a 4-4-2. They changed it and affected the game second half, we didn't until it's too late.
The only reason Morsy didn't start is because Phillips cant play against Man City and Morsy can't play 180 mins in 3 days 🙅‍♂️
We didn’t lose tonight because Morsy didn’t start

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Post by mendipblue » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:50 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:56 pm
Too much pissing about with it in and around our box again tonight ......GOAL!!! What a bloody surprise, not!

Back line of

Godfrey...O'Shea...Burgess...Greaves.....Davis

From now on please.


Edit.

We also clearly lack the pace in the team to break from a low block to get the ball AND NUMBERS up the pitch to support the stand alone Delap. Omari did hus best but was EVERY TIME shepherded off the ball by at least 2/3 Brighton players.... He and Delap were so far apart to be of any use to each other and therefore were playing in isolation the whole night.

As for Brightons " gamesmanship".... hardly a touch on them and down they went to a man every single time and the ref was suckered in. Us? We haven't got a bloody clue how to manage a game and win a free kicks. Not a bloody clue.
I would drop Davis. We need defenders against City and Davis can't defend. Townsend needs to start on the left.

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Post by Shed on tour » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:08 am

Dreadful 2nd half performance. If we are to stay up we have to pick up wins at home and I’m really struggling to see where we are going to get enough of them to achieve survival.

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Post by ashfordblue » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:37 am

mendipblue wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:50 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:56 pm
Too much pissing about with it in and around our box again tonight ......GOAL!!! What a bloody surprise, not!

Back line of

Godfrey...O'Shea...Burgess...Greaves.....Davis

From now on please.


Edit.

We also clearly lack the pace in the team to break from a low block to get the ball AND NUMBERS up the pitch to support the stand alone Delap. Omari did hus best but was EVERY TIME shepherded off the ball by at least 2/3 Brighton players.... He and Delap were so far apart to be of any use to each other and therefore were playing in isolation the whole night.

As for Brighton's " gamesmanship," there was hardly a touch on them, and down, they went to a man every single time, and the ref was suckered in. Us? We haven't got a bloody clue how to manage a game and win free kicks.
I would drop Davis. We need defenders against City and Davis can't defend. Townsend needs to start on the left.

It's the only solution Townsend LB Davis LM, Or try this set-up against City ??? put Delap on the Bench to come on later in the game as an impact sub

Godfrey O'Shea, Greaves, Burgess,
Morsy, Cajuste,
Philogene Hirst Broadhead J Clarke

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Post by arana peligrosa » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:46 am

'Opposition hadn't won in 8 or 9 games', they come to us and take away a victory. How many damn instances is it now where an opposition team haven't won in 6, 10, 26 games etc etc but they nearly always face us and collect three points. It's bizarre for want of better words.

Caught some highlights, right off the bat they showed our players coming through the tunnel area on way to the field and these kids just didn't seem interested. Most, with one or two exceptions, just seem resigned to defeat before they'd even appeared at crowd view. Devoid of interest or wishing they were someplace else. With that it's no real surprise writing up on an opposition victory.

Can't blame Muric for this one as didn't feature and while we fielded a team you'd imagine able to take a result from it, once the away team got ahead confidence took a real hit and we just weren't able to turn it around. McKenna highlighted the same thing on a post-game review.

Bristol Rovers was easy - one of the very worse teams in all four divisions - a win was always going to occur no matter who we picked for it although in truth thought they'd sneak it on the day what with our record against lower league trash. Brighton were naturally going to be a step up but gathering all information together after the event, and not for the first or last time, we hit a stumble block at a certain stage in the game and were unable to suitably regroup or recover.

Southampton will prove at least one savior against relegation and can only hope Leicester, WWFC for instance can match their spiral / erratic form in weeks ahead to provide us enough chance of being above the drop line by end game of season.

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Post by Mach_Polish_Blue » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:09 am

No complaints about the result.

The manner of 2nd performance was sickening and annoying where we never offered any kind of threat. Men against boys.

Delap wasn't in good form today and when he isn't then the whole team struggles.

Too many home defeats.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:42 am

ITFC2024 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:43 pm
mendipblue wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:25 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:54 pm
That went well, poor from teamsheet to final whistle with a half decent 25 mins before HT. Didn't get the starting line up at all.

If Morsy is fit he should have played, Phillips just hopeless. Hutchinson constantly making wrong decisions, Davis and Walton very iffy. Delap totally ineffective as little service. Broadhead very good first half.

Second half was pretty embarrassing really, we offered nothing, once they scored we looked L1 quality. We go Two down so take off our goalscorer, Hirst should have come on to partner Delap in a 4-4-2. They changed it and affected the game second half, we didn't until it's too late.
The only reason Morsy didn't start is because Phillips cant play against Man City and Morsy can't play 180 mins in 3 days 🙅‍♂️
We didn’t lose tonight because Morsy didn’t start
That may or may not be the case but we didn't win without him either, we've finally found a formula that works and suits us. 4 points off Chelsea and Fulham, so why start taking out vital cogs in that system?

Yes we have 2 games in 4 days but last nights game was clearly the more winnable game of the 2 so go with your best 11, I personally don't think we did, Taylor or Luongo could have come in on Sunday if needed, its like Philip had to play to give him a game. I don't get Ben Godfrey being on the bench either, he's a very fit lad as the cup game showed. I just feel it was wrong.

The substitutions were odd too, again. Is it against the law to have both Delap & Hirst on the pitch at the same time if chasing a game ? I completely agree about Hutchinson too, if he can make a wrong decision he will and how many bloody times does he trip over the ball?

One thing that stood out for me was the number of times we passed the bloody ball backwards in the second half, 2 or 3 times we had throw ins in line with their box and it ended back in ours in seconds , easy safe pass after pass afraid to try to be forward thinking and adventurous. The second half was pretty abysmal for me.

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Post by Blue Wilf » Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:49 am

Just watched highlights and that cheat pedro deffo knew what he was doing when he hit Walton. How can VAR not see that was a red? Two very poor goals. Walton may have done better on the first although I think it slightly deflected off a Davis boot as the shot came in. Second was an joke and just bad defending. We go again but as much as ai loved the chelsea win, I am hating the rest of this 🙄 Hate the PL

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Post by The Odious Mr Rossi » Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:02 am

I was brought up with the ethos of "if you can't say anything good about something, say nothing at all".

Sod that - last night was extremely disappointing. First 25 minutes, we couldn't get the ball and on the few occasions we did we contrived to give it back to them at the earliest opportunity. And throughout the game, we never get enough players forward for an attack, one forward cannot beat 4 defenders on his own - too often last night we were aimlessly hoofing the ball from defence into open space, welcome back to the MM days.

I've read the comments about Morsy not being able to play 3 games in 8 days. If he seriously can't do that then I think he ought to consider a career change, then I realise it's probably not him saying that, rather it's the manager's opinion. But even if that's the case, surely the game to have left him out would be on Sunday, not the game where we had a more realistic chance of getting points.

And KMs comments after the game once again completely dumbfound me - try as I might I just cannot see where he is coming from. Getting more and more concerned by the week, we're lacking any sort of consistency both on the pitch and seemingly off of it as well.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:13 am

Morsy has played virtually every game for 3 seasons, he would be fine to play both, I mean somebody explain to me the difference between a Wednesday/Saturday to a Thursday/Sunday scenario? He's done the former numerous times. It was a mistake for me but definitely not the reason we lost, possibly the reason we didn't win though.

The biggest thing for me was once again the opposition manager changed it up early enough to turn a game around that they were losing their grasp of, that's what I want to see, not changing like for like, you need Two goals, don't take Delap off ffs, throw Hirst on with him ,!! Mix the bloody thing up.

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