Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

[Bluemike]

I dont think Ross and Hurst will be overly sought if I'm honest, classic case in point is if Ross is so good why did Rangers not so much as have a look at him ? I mean they preferred Gerrard!

[herforder]

Don’t think either Everton or West Ham have acted in accordance with the standards they presumably demand from their employees: honesty, integrity and loyalty. But although it’s right to feel contempt for the individuals who run those clubs, the reality is that with the stakes being so high, such actions will be fully justified to the decisions makers. Welcome to the world of professional football, where most normal rules of behaviour are optional or negotiable.

In big Sam’s case, I think that Rooney had a major part to play: him or me scenario. As for Moyes, just don’t think the fit was ever right; clearly Sullivan and co want bigger and better. (Be careful what you wish for....!)

Neither, with their large supporting staffs, are ever likely to come to us - nor would they be likely to want to. Nor would any PL club be likely to appoint Hurst or Ross - at least yet. Were it someone like Paul Cook, then possibly. But agree the trend for most clubs is towards younger models.

[Tangfastic]

I dont think Ross and Hurst will be overly sought if I'm honest, classic case in point is if Ross is so good why did Rangers not so much as have a look at him ? I mean they preferred Gerrard!

I don’t think Hurst and Ross will be on any PL clubs radar.... but once clubs start looking for managers then vacancies pop up elsewhere in a knock on effect.

With the Gerrard appointment.... I guess they’re just looking for a big name. They can’t get a big name manager so they go for a high-profile name on the first rung of the ladder. I can see they’ll enjoy back page interest for a while with their new saviour ... until the season kicks off and it goes tits up. Good luck to Gerrard, but I see this going the same way as the John Barnes appointment at Celtic a few years ago when Super Cally went ballistic.

[charlton837]

To be honest I don’t think anything that happens in the Premiership will even remotely have a knock effect on what happens at Portman Road. I’d like to think differently as I’m sure both Big Sam and David Moyes could both manage at our level and make a difference, unfortunately both will know they get far bigger and better jobs elsewhere.

I can see Big Sams Spanish Villa from my house here in Spain and expect to see him here for the first time in a while sometime very soon, but I don’t think i’ll be asking him what he thinks of Everton Football Club. I’m not sure he deserved the sack having taken them from 13th to 8th, and the same with David Moyes who took West Ham from serious relegation candidates to 13th, 9 points clear of the drop and 7 points from their last three games suggests he was starting to get things right.

I think the way these two managers have been dumped by their clubs is disgusting.

get the point on this but to be honest id be wholly disappointed if we ended up with Allardyce or Moyes, may be well out of our reach but im glad for that as I think it would make a very bad appointment, not something we need at this moment. All these guys fall under the same category as Mick in my view, all old school managers who are on their way down. Moyes was Man U manager not so long ago but since then hes been on a one way ticket.

I sort of agree with what both you and Dubai say about their treatment, but actually I have a feeling both sides knew this when they came in. Moyes comes in on a 6 month contract, lets be honest if someone has faith in you they would give you a longer deal, he chose to enter that and so you always run that risk. Allardyce has done a MM on a bigger stage, hes not tried to make any connection with fans or club tradition, hes almost laughed in the face of fans in some press conferences, they originally wanted him on a short term deal, but he made them give him longer, in my view because he knew what would happen. Also once he got Everton safe early in the year, he could have tried to open up a bit more and play something that resembles football rather than the way we played. I see a lot of similarities there to the last 2 years at PR, just at a different level.

Football has changed, it looks to me like managers such as Mick McCarthy, Sam Allardyce, David Moyes, Tony Pulis, Mark Hughes(?) etc. are all going to struggle soon as they are not wanted by supporters. Im sure some owners would be happy with them as they offer some stability and will do a job to a point, but the way fans are now I don't see a way of them staying anywhere too long. Im in 2 minds on both Moyes and Allardyce, my opinion is on paper they probably did well enough to have a chance next season but I can understand fans frustrations. This year in the prem 8th means nothing, the gap between 8th and lower mid table was hardly anything, the teams above that had significantly more.

[Charnwood]

The difference is that at Everton the fans hated Allardyce and his long ball tactics whereas at West Ham the fans hate the owners. I think West Ham fans had accepted Moyes and would have been happy for him to stay.
Despite was he says Allardyce will be more than happy with another massive pay off, this time circa £6m which he can add to the £7.5m compensation payments already pocketed from dismissals at Blackburn, Newcastle and England. I can’t think of any other manager who has earned more from dismissal pay offs.
As for the Premiership, I think we now have a Super Six (I’ll give Arsenal the benefit of doubt), and the rest are simply playing for 7th to qualify for the Europa League and 8th-17th to avoid relegation. I can’t really see this changing anytime soon unless of course we have another fairy tale gate crasher like Leicester City.
As for the likes of Tony Pulis, David Moyes & Mark Hughes, I think there will always be a job for them with the ping pong clubs that yo-yo between the Championship and the Premier League.
I have a feeling that Sam Allardyce may choose to simply “hang up his boots” and enjoy the sunshine with his family.

[herforder]

But it’s also of note that the most currently successful PL managers are foreign - with both West Ham and Everton potentially going down that route. The number of ‘old and bold’ home grown managers will progressively diminish. Fresh, successful, younger replacements need to be developed, if for no other reason than to maintain a sense of balance - and with an eye towards future England leaders.

[arana peligrosa]

Ross would appear all but confirmed however there remains time subject to change. Suppose this is the final decision, wouldn't be overjoyed with it but prepared to allow the name an opportunity to see what he can produce. Of course funds would appear paramount, the owner requires to put forward substantial money to make the team competitive. That he has not before, remains a primary concern irrespective of who gets the appointment.

[Ricco]

Fine by me, I'm just petrified of getting an old has been, so Ross is just fine, maybe second choice to Hurst, but perhaps Hurst has rulled himself out, or maybe will if Shrewsbury go up, not worth the risk of losing out on Ross I don't think... time will tell.

As for money available, I don't know what kind of a budget I would like Evans to set, I don't think that is particularly important, but money has to be available if the right player comes up at a right price, otherwise I'll despair.

[number 9]

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/33724

A lot of good info on Ross. (sorry if it's already been posted)

[Charnwood]

But it’s also of note that the most currently successful PL managers are foreign - with both West Ham and Everton potentially going down that route. The number of ‘old and bold’ home grown managers will progressively diminish. Fresh, successful, younger replacements need to be developed, if for no other reason than to maintain a sense of balance - and with an eye towards future England leaders.

Look no further than Eddie Howe(40) to be the next English Manager to be given a chance at a higher level. Sean Dyche(46) is another who may get a bigger opportunity sometime soon, and other than Chris Hughton(59) who I think is an excellent manager I’m struggling to think of anyone else coming through. Roy Hodgson (70) is English and in my book a brilliant manager, but doesn’t have age on his side, who else is there ?

Sadly many of our knowledgable ex players who with more development might have made successful managers have found it far too easy to make big money pissing around as pundits on Sky Tv rather than persue a career in Management. I’m not sure these overpaid opportunities are so readily available abroad which means more of the better ex players who want to stay in the game after they retire move into coaching and management. (Possibly bollocks but just a random thought)

[K L Blue]

If this is to be believed its down to 2 candidates............................................................

Ipswich Town have narrowed down their manager wishlist to just two names, according to reports.
The Daily Record is reporting that St Mirren manager Jack Ross and Shrewsbury Town boss Paul Hurst are the two men wanted by Ipswich to replace Mick McCarthy at Portman Road.

Hurst has gained plenty of admirers this season after leading Shrewsbury Town to a third place finish in League One after steering them to safety last season, having come to the club when they were bottom.
The Shrews fell narrowly short of automatic promotion and they will now face Rotherham United – the club where Hurst spent most of his playing career – in the play-off final at Wembley for a place in next season’s Championship.
The 43-year-old has the highest coaching qualification of a UEFA A badge and is regarded as one of the best young managers in the English game.
Ross is another young managerial candidate for Ipswich to run the rule over.
The 41-year-old has just guided St Mirren to the Scottish Championship title and a return to the top flight in Scotland, as well as winning the PFA Scotland Manager of the Year accolade.
Formerly of Alloa Athletic, Ross has been given permission by St Mirren to talk to Ipswich and now he is set to hold a second round of talks with the Tractor Boys.
The Verdict
Ipswich’s chances of landing Hurst hinge on whether Shrewsbury win promotion this year, I believe.
But he has worked miracles at Shrewsbury and has them on the verge of something special that they would never have believed when he joined the bottom-placed League One club in October 2016.
Both Hurst and Ross would be exciting options for Ipswich to pursue and completely different styles to McCarthy, which will please fans who grew tired of tedious tactics and mid-table finishes.
Although both these managers represent risks, they both have the potential to finally push Ipswich back to the Premier League if they can implement their style of play at Portman Road and get the players on their side.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/ipswi ... lacements/

[Bluemike]

Win win really, I am actually getting quite excited at the thought of Ross too now, wasn't originally but the more I read and hear it sounds just the fit for us and watching the video of that goal had me drooling at the football, it doesn't matter what level you are performing at that was sheer class. The betting odds would suggest it's virtually a done deal.

[K L Blue]

I think your right Mike, he's the "first" that's been acknowledged to going back for a second "talk"

I think he'll be announced in the next few days tbh

[herforder]

Second interview today, apparently. Dotting the ‘i’s’ and crossing the ‘T’s’ perhaps? Of course ir’s a gamble if he’s appointed. - but, apart from Hurst, preferable to having to choose someone from the bunch of those remaining.

[number 9]

I'm really liking the sound of Ross. I can't find anything negative about him. He does seem like the perfect fit for us. Also impressed with that goal...starts from the back, nice movement in midfield, touch and go passing, forwards in great position. Notice how the whole team is moving in unison? Good football, that!

[Watership Down]

As good a manager Ross maybe he needs the tools to do a good job,as we all know the shoestring this club has been on for the last few seasons doesn't bear well for the new coach. I would love to see Ross come in ans take the league by storm but sadly I can't see that happening. It's a possible mediocre season with a few highs in it. Unless Marcus opens the purse and we make a few shrewd signings I can hear the boys in the crowd baying.

[K L Blue]

As good a manager Ross maybe he needs the tools to do a good job,as we all know the shoestring this club has been on for the last few seasons doesn't bear well for the new coach. I would love to see Ross come in ans take the league by storm but sadly I can't see that happening. It's a possible mediocre season with a few highs in it. Unless Marcus opens the purse and we make a few shrewd signings I can hear the boys in the crowd baying.

I disagree WD, Ross has shown what he could do on a budget. He brought in players that turned around St Mirren's season.
I think he'll be shrewd in the transfer market, and get round pegs for round holes.
And he wouldn't take the job unless he'd be happy with transfer budget.(if he couldn't work with it, there's no point in taking the job)

[Tangfastic]

As good a manager Ross maybe he needs the tools to do a good job,as we all know the shoestring this club has been on for the last few seasons doesn't bear well for the new coach. I would love to see Ross come in ans take the league by storm but sadly I can't see that happening. It's a possible mediocre season with a few highs in it. Unless Marcus opens the purse and we make a few shrewd signings I can hear the boys in the crowd baying.

I disagree WD, Ross has shown what he could do on a budget. He brought in players that turned around St Mirren's season.
I think he'll be shrewd in the transfer market, and get round pegs for round holes.
And he wouldn't take the job unless he'd be happy with transfer budget.(if he couldn't work with it, there's no point in taking the job)

and our current players aren’t that bad and we’ve got good youngsters coming through.

If the only thing is about money.... why not just get all clubs to show in August their transfer budget and settle the league table there and then without a match being played?

We’ve been browbeaten too much with the finances and pragmatism... get someone in who believes we can buck the trend. And it’s not only about getting that top six spot it’s about bringing back the fans. We’re not getting big money.... so get over it and get someone who’s willing to give it a go and pass the belief onto the players.

[herforder]

Ross will have carried out his own version of due diligence on the club - as he did when offered the Barnsley job - and base his decision on what he finds. No doubt the detailed discussion with ME, which would presumably cover ambition, levels of squad investment, back-room staff, 5 point plan, expectations etc will determine how Ross views the challenge that awaits, and whether he sees it as in his best interests to accept.

Local sources continue to suggest that, despite just about everyone believing it to be a two horse race, ME has not ruled out other options; albeit preferring to appoint younger manager. Not sure in whose direction that would point him - Sherwood, Parker etc? Or it could be a bit of subtle psychology.......

[Bluemike]

It does beg the question why would Ross elect to come here with nowt to spend when he turned down Barnsley with their new owners and mega investment etc, I mean a club that can p*ss away 750K on Keiffer Moore !!!!

[herforder]

It does beg the question why would Ross elect to come here with nowt to spend when he turned down Barnsley with their new owners and mega investment etc, I mean a club that can p*ss away 750K on Keiffer Moore !!!!

Yep, money well gained!

[Charnwood]

Ever since I first read of our interest in Jack Ross he’s been my first choice for the job, I just hope I’m not going to be disappointed.

I think ME said he hoped to make an appointment by the end of May, so not too long to wait.

[Bluemike]

The Cowleys my arse.......getting f**king humped, hoofball no marks lmao

[herforder]

The Cowleys my arse.......getting f**king humped, hoofball no marks lmao

Was slightly surprised that Paul Tisdale, Exeter and longest serving manager across all leagues, has not really featured in the Town manager stakes. But seems he’s off to MK Dons.

[Charnwood]

TBH Mike I’m always pleased to see the side that finished top of the play off group at the very least get through to the final.
Even more so in the Championship where Fulham ended the season 13 points ahead of Derby.

Talking of foreign managers, Slavisa Jokanovic has done a pretty good job at Fulham and is another example of a foreign manager doing well in English football, and I did suggest way back that we should cast our net abroad in our search for a new manager.

Well that was before Jack Ross came on the scene and I guess he’s remotely foreign.

[derick_ipsw]

The Cowleys my arse.......getting f**king humped, hoofball no marks lmao

I was thinking exactly the same thing when I was watching this last night. "Hoofball" is not the way forward, well done Exeter and so pleased to see the Cowley's knocked off there so called pedestal.

[Charnwood]

What is it about some people who just like to see other people fail.

[Bluemike]

Probably the same as some people bigging up someone when it really isnt warranted, we've had months of Cowley talk and why ? Cus they beat us in a cup tie, they really aren't all that.

[Tangfastic]

Should be able to squeeze in an interview with the Cowleys next week now.

[Ricco]

Probably the same as some people bigging up someone when it really isnt warranted, we've had months of Cowley talk and why ? Cus they beat us in a cup tie, they really aren't all that.

I don't think anyone with half a brain would've based their opinion solely on one cup match. The Cowley's are perfectly credible, they've managed 172 games compared to Ross' 114 and with a win %age of 54.1 to Ross' 48.25, which is also better than Hurst's of 50.3%. The question is the level of competition they are at versus the others and that's where the cup run may come in a little, beating Town, Brighton and Burnley. They took over Braintree after they finished 14th and took them to 3rd the next year, then picked up Lincoln after they finished 13th, won the league with them the next year and then finished 7th in the first year after promotion this year. I much prefer the look of Hurst and Ross, but nothing particularly wrong with the Cowleys I don't think.