Manchester United v Ipswich Town preview and match thread

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Can we 'do a Japan'?

Manchester United win in 90(+) mins.
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Manchester United win AET
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Manchester United win on pens.
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Ipswich Town win in 90(+) mins.
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Ipswich Town win on pens.
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Post by arana peligrosa » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:59 pm

lucy wrote:If MM really wants to win this he will change it up at half time. But i think his attention is focused on Saturday's game and rightly so i think.
I don't believe he wants progression in this. The starting eleven speaks for itself and it's frustrating for some supporters who have a genuine desire to do well in this competition. Still only a one goal margin at the interval so guessing they'll keep Rooney on to see if he can add another but we have two strikers in Pittman and Sears who can cause any opposition problems.

Only trouble is, is getting near their damn goal in order to grab an opportunity and they're so far ahead in terms of possession it's imperative any chances that come our way second half need to register. Carlisle are holding Liverpool at Anfield so all things are possible.

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:00 pm

I know we're only 1-0 but what a poor team selection from MM, clearly he has no respect for the fans the opposition or the players for that matter. Many of our first team would have loved an opportunity to play at Old Trafford against a strong full first team squad which would have been a fantastic experience for them and a learning opportunity.

I can understand our Mick making a few changes but 11 is ridiculous and my liking of him has taken a nose dive this evening, a complete knob.

Win 1-2 and I may think of changing my mind. :wink:

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Post by lucy » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:01 pm

2nd half come back anyone?.

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Post by James Scharmann » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:17 pm

2-0 game over, just won more goal get my prediction spot on :wink:

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Post by arana peligrosa » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:20 pm

Oh well gave it a damn try but that would appear to be it now.

Sears and Pittman now on but the freakin' damage has been done Mick

Have to believe at 0 - 2 we're not going to participate any further this season

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:23 pm

If you want entertainment Spurs v Arsenal on Sky Sports is quite a decent game.

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Post by lucy » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:25 pm

I feel sorry for the fans there long way home for some of them

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:42 pm

Newcastle dumped out by Sheffield Wednesday, how long before Steve McLaren gets dumped out by Newcastle ?

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Post by arana peligrosa » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:46 pm

Rooney taken off with ten minutes to play. Thought they may have relieved him after the second goal.

This isn't going to happen. We're not going to score twice with the time remaining especially as they have such a hold on possession. Gave it a go, created some chances, but there was a feeling of the inevitable as soon as the draw was made.

Probably the most high profile game we will have this season at least in terms of opposition but it's back to domestics after this. At least those who never gave a sh*t about this competition will have got their way.

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:49 pm

3-0

Anthony Martial, who else!

Not one shot on target from Town.
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Post by James Scharmann » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:51 pm

James Scharmann wrote:3-0 to Man Utd

What did I tell you, 1st Town prediction I got spot on this season :lol:

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Post by The Don » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:54 pm

James Scharmann wrote:
James Scharmann wrote:3-0 to Man Utd

What did I tell you, 1st Town prediction I got spot on this season :lol:
Is the prediction league running tonight, or you just claiming kudos points?

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Post by James Scharmann » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:55 pm

The Don wrote:
James Scharmann wrote:
James Scharmann wrote:3-0 to Man Utd

What did I tell you, 1st Town prediction I got spot on this season :lol:
Is the prediction league running tonight, or you just claiming kudos points?
No shame we didn't have mid week prediction league. Nice though when you get a Town prediction spot on as it rarely happens!!!

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Post by Quasar » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:23 pm

Glad mm took off murph and goldie ready for Saturday game of which I am going to

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:25 pm

Considering it was practically a Town reserve side out there tonight. I guess 3 -0 ( last goal almost didn't count as game was over all Bar the Refs sharp intake of breath ), is actually quite respectable and our kids get some really valuable experience under their belts.


....on to the more important game vs Bristol City now.

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Post by James Scharmann » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:31 pm

Quasar wrote:Glad mm took off murph and goldie ready for Saturday game of which I am going to

:lol: I wouldn't be so sure Pitman and Sears started last game v Brimingham. Expect Sears to start maybe with Murphy or perhaps Pitman

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Post by lucy » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:38 pm

Is anyone else having trouble getting on the website? Last night and tonight i've not been able to get on for 30/40 minutes at a time.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:26 am

hallamblue wrote:Considering it was practically a Town reserve side out there tonight. I guess 3 -0 ( last goal almost didn't count as game was over all Bar the Refs sharp intake of breath ), is actually quite respectable and our kids get some really valuable experience under their belts.


....on to the more important game vs Bristol City now.
Tuned out with around five minutes remaining as realized by then the game was over and missed their third goal, but some of us don't see the next league game as being more important. This evening for me was disappointing. For sure there has been a whole lot of ridicule towards the competition and all this 'f*ck the trophy, the league is the end all and be all' mentality ever since the first round played, but that was a missed opportunity to maybe do something.

The following isn't directed at anyone in particular and the quote ends here but it's only the feeling of what occured in this and in truth, Some supporters not caring less can be excused, but when the manager shares a similar sentiment then what's the point ?

Let's be real about this, we haven't won a domestic trophy since 1978 and I honestly believe now that for some of us i.e. those of a certain age, we will never see this occur again. Even in the recent past we would go to places such as Manchester City and / or Arsenal and register a win - Yes at their venue - in competitions such as this and go on to the latter stages but it's just not happening anymore. Too much of a sense of apathy it seems and it's just not this but even the FA Cup of all things (once again it's the league or nothing in some eyes)

A 0 - 3 loss at one of the most recognized venues in the world, against one of the most recognized club sides also - it's not that tough to take but the opposition are a shadow of their former stature and had McCarthy deployed a stronger XI today and gone about this with a greater determination we may just have seen a different outcome. Still, what's done is done.

Lastly, if you look in on their Red Cafe fansite, they had a thread called Post match vs Ipswich and it was disappointing to view things such as :

"despite it being against sub-standard opposition I enjoyed our performance"

"Great game for us, dominated the game"

"Yeah that's what those relatively easy cup games should be about"

"Happy with the result but we should have scored more against a really poor opposition really"

"Hard to have any takeaways from this match considering how weak the opposition was"



Ok they were always going to be favorites for this but in the end it appears we made it too easy for them and simply lacked enough fighting spirit and very nearly handed them the damn match with the starting XI put out.

The 'sub-standard opposition' was especially hard to view, but the opposition should be aware that ever since Ferguson vacated and the excellent Moyes took over and almost ruined their very existence, they haven't been no f**king Hungary of the 50s. Guess the 'sub-standard opposition is now out of the sub-standard competition'

People get what they want, we move on.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:27 am

The Ipswich support tonight was brilliant they totally out sang the prawn sandwich brigade. Awesome was very proud of the fans. The team had a 12min spell at the beginning of the second half where they were totally dominant. The 2nd goal came against the run of play. Considering the team Utd put out to ours, we were not disgraced at all. :wink:

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Post by marko69 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:40 am

Was rather shocked at the team Utd put out and I've gained a bit of respect for LVG for taking matters seriously. Hats off to him.

I'm sincerely hoping yourself Derick and Bluemike had a great night and enjoyed the occasion......, I'm hoping that the occasion eliminated the annoyance caused by Mick McCarthys team selection. Yes, the fringe players need a run out, but FFS, against Manchester United at Old Trafford? Little bit bemused by that Mick if I'm honest. But then I suppose if there hadve been injuries, he would've been given sh*t for that...... Double edged sword.

Not disgraced though, and it was great seeing "Ipswich Town" on the Hibernian scoreboard again...... Even if the result wasn't a good one.

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Post by Quasar » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:36 am

Bro in Law - called me this morning when he got back,

Said the place was loud and the town fans were awesome and very loud.

He has a great a night out,

roll on saturday, i shall be there.

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:50 pm

Well that is my first visit of Old Trafford and despite the result and despite being a tad disappointed at the team selection I do not regret making the long trip one bit, MM was always going to make changes but 11 ??? Wow I did not see that coming, that said lets not forget we did still have Bart, Parr, Bru, Didsy and Murphy start the game, all can be considered as first teamers when fit. It would have been great experience for the likes of Yorwerth & Emmanuel too, there will be times they may be needed for first team action this season and last night will set them in good stead if and when they are called upon.

The game itself pretty much went the way most expected, especially when you take into account the Man Utd team that was put out. I felt we just payed them way too much respect in the first half and instead of closing them down and getting in their faces we stood off and gave them so much time and space with which to work the ball. At the time I thought it was Yorwerth that was found wanting for the first goal but in fact it was Malarczyk who also struggled for the third goal, he has not impressed me so far although he id a couple of good things last night, young Emmanuel had 3 players marauding down his side at times and in the main handled it ok, naturally he will make the odd mistake but by and large didnt disgrace himself.

If only we had approached the first half like we did the opening 15 minutes of the second, we finally looked like we could cause them problems and were the better side, despite not having anything on target we flashed 2 or 3 really dangerous balls across their box, unfortunately nobody could get on the end of them. The second goal came completely against the run of play, I am not sure if it was a great free kick or if yet again Bart is out of position etc, either way he did not move a muscle, game over at that point, the third was just rubbing salt in the wounds.

The plus points are that we didnt disagrace ourselves, despite playing a very weakened side, Tommy Oar and kevin Bru got some vital game time while some youngsters gained invaluable experience. If we go on to beat Bristol City all will be forgotten as far as I am concerned but having rested most of our regular team I will be pretty pissed off if they don't do the business Saturday. The only real down side for me was the journey up there, horrendous or what, bloody traffic everywhere, six hours to get to Manchester ??? Finally well done to the fantastic Town fans who once again did themselves and the club proud, outsang the so called home fans all game and kept positive despite the inevitable, the only time you heard the Man Utd fans was when the ball hit the net, pathetic in truth.

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Post by The Odious Mr Rossi » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:25 pm

Well, I'll come out of my self-imposed posting exile to comment on this.
I wasn't able to see the game last night due to work commitments in Southampton, but..............

I cannot believe some of the comments I've been reading regarding the team selection and in particular the defence.
I seldom agree with MM, but I do agree with him when he said we would have lost last night whatever team he fielded.

And let me record this observation - the defenders and midfielders that so many of you proclaim to be second-string played away last night to a team of mega-stars and conceded 3 goals. Now compare that to a team consisting of defenders and midfielders most of you regard as first-choice that plays away to a Championship side not containing any mega-stars and concedes 5 goals. You do the maths!!!!

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Post by barmy billy » Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:56 pm

rossi wrote:Well, I'll come out of my self-imposed posting exile to comment on this.
I wasn't able to see the game last night due to work commitments in Southampton, but..............

I cannot believe some of the comments I've been reading regarding the team selection and in particular the defence.
I seldom agree with MM, but I do agree with him when he said we would have lost last night whatever team he fielded.

And let me record this observation - the defenders and midfielders that so many of you proclaim to be second-string played away last night to a team of mega-stars and conceded 3 goals. Now compare that to a team consisting of defenders and midfielders most of you regard as first-choice that plays away to a Championship side not containing any mega-stars and concedes 5 goals. You do the maths!!!!
If MM really did say they would have lost no matter what the ream etc, I think he was being very disloyal to those he selected. Even if he felt it, it was a stupid thing to say. Having your manager say that was hardly going to give them any confidence or sense of achievement in being picked. MM really is quite naieve at times.

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Post by marko69 » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:26 pm

Why did you put yourself into posting exile? Just because your true opinions will cause various forum contributors and forum readers to burst veins in their heids, doesn't mean you should put yourself into exile. The forum is a funeral parlour at the moment.

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:10 pm

“I could have put any team out against that team and we’d probably still have been beaten. The bookies wouldn’t have been giving too many good odds on us whatever team we were playing.”
That is what he actually said, same as what 99% of us were saying.

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Post by JayITFC » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:38 pm

It wasn't a question of which team we were going to put out but rather which team Manure were going to put out?

The moment I saw Bastien Schweensteigers name in the starting XI I knew we would lose. For me this guy is the most complete all round midfield player in any league right now.

I'm obviously sorry for the people who feel disgruntled about going all the way up to OT, the cost and time to watch us etc but for me MM did the right thing in picking the squad he played. We have always produced quality youngsters in our academy over the years and it seems like we may have a few more coming through.

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Post by Mr.Punch » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:13 pm

for what it's worth i think mm got it right, the experience will really help the youngsters and bru and others will have increased their fitness.
the chances of us winning were not good regardless of the team played.
mm is a clever chap - we could go far this season.

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Post by shabba » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:53 pm

I agree with the above. I'd have done exactly the same as MM if I was the manager.

Important rest for players playing this weekend and yet it gives others a chance to impress, improve fitness and also saying to them beforehand 'look you aren't in the current XI for league games but here go and play at old Trafford and impress me and we will see'. Playing there will have kept some of them happy, you dopnt want players who never play as they will get annoyed and it can be a bad influence on the rest of the squad, you need a SQUAD who know they will get time at somepoint and are all happy to play their parts when called upon.

As said we could have put any XI out and got beat, and if we somehow got through we'd get knocked out at another point but a similarly big side. Its justified that this cup is the lowest priority, the league is KEY - even a difference of 3 points either way could be huge come the end of the season.

Super MM - have faith.

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:32 pm

Agree with the last Three posts, he got it completely right even if I was surprised at so many changes, however I will still be pissed off with failure to beat Bristol City LOL.

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