Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

[herforder]

MM has said that his character, presence and demeanour is exactly the same now, as it was on day 1 - qualities that many of today’s ‘numbskull’ supporters were originally happy to embrace, following the Keane and Jewell debacles. When winning football matches you’re a hero, when that’s not happening then the forensic microscope gets turned up to max, and the ‘hero’ rapidly gets pulled apart and ultimately destroyed. So the cycle stats again!

[Bluemike]

That is exactly right, people used to love his wit and dry humour when he first arrived and he hasn't changed in that respect at all.

[charlton837]

It's not wit and dry humour that's the problem. It's insults aimed at the club's supporters. He's clearly very good at keeping people on side when he wants to (ie. Players and staff) but has made no attempt with fans and even goaded them to the point they have walked away in many cases.

When he first came here he wasn't aiming his words at his own supporters so in that respect he has changed. He's got some qualities as a manager but the disdain he has for fans is always going to be his downfall

[herforder]

It's not wit and dry humour that's the problem. It's insults aimed at the club's supporters. He's clearly very good at keeping people on side when he wants to (ie. Players and staff) but has made no attempt with fans and even goaded them to the point they have walked away in many cases.

When he first came here he wasn't aiming his words at his own supporters so in that respect he has changed. He's got some qualities as a manager but the disdain he has for fans is always going to be his downfall

I think his ‘disdain’ is by no means aimed at all/genuine supporters. But quite rightly at those who seem to gain their gratification by abuse out of all proportion to events, either on or off the pitch. Sadly there are too many who fit that profile - it becomes a toxic two-way street. More reason, therefore, for ME to chose carefully.......

[marko69]

It’s basically all those supporters who hurl abuse for 90 (+ 8 minutes these days) then get in their Audi’s and tailgate some poor b*stard for ten miles. Those c*nts.

Disclaimer: If you read this and you own an Audi, and the above doesn’t apply....., Don’t be offended, be grateful to be so fking unique.

[charlton837]

I don’t hear all this abuse people go on about. I’m not hearing fans booing and shouting down at Mick players 5 mins in to a game or when they walk out of tunnel. It all stems from mick and how were set up, if we were playing well we wouldn’t hear any negativity.

Like I said before this “abuse” only came about because people weren’t listened to. Some people have taken it too far but I include mick in that so he’s as bad as they are. If you ignore fans concerns they will come to a head eventually.

I’m willing to bet at almost any other club mick would have got a much rougher ride than he has here. I do take offence to some of the things he says and does because it insults fans intelligence. All is not well at the club and he has at times said things just to wind people up then gets pissed off when people give it out to him. As a manager you just cannot do this, regardless of whether your in the right or wrong, it makes your position untenable. We need big changes from top to bottom, the whole thing is just a pantomime and boring.

[Bluemike]

If you aren't hearing it you're sitting in a different place to me

[marko69]

Any fan witn a level of intelligence, Charlton would see that, (for the most part) Mick McCarthy has been “peeing with the knob he’s got” and doing better than managers who actually receive money to spend.

He’s obviously one of the most loyal men around. He receives NO worthwhile money from the owner for transfers, and yet takes abuse, (because of him) , but only ever says GOOD things about him.

But, he’s a human being. The consistency of the abuse was obviously going to make him show signs of wear. Yes, his “I’ll get more belligerent” comments weren’t the best, but again, ...., intelligent fans would understand where they are born from ——-> a manager doing his best with funds available.

The panto you speak of will continue until Marcus Evans gets to fk out of Ipswich Town.

[charlton837]

I hear it when we go behind or if we are playing incredibly poor football. But I don’t hear it from the off.

I’m in south lower so nowhere near north stand, perhaps there are some small pockets that do shout from the start but we really don’t hear it. But I can tell you most round me (mostly older folk) have been lost because of micks comments in last couple seasons, along with the poor standard of football. The hull game was first time I had seen virtually everyone in south lower go for mick, it’s very unlike them actually.

I hope that next season we can at least all try and work together again as the last 2 seasons have been up there with the most unenjoyable I have known

[Bluemike]

That very first line says it all for me.....

"I hear it when we go behind "

Isn't that when fans are needed most ? I must have it all wrong.

[charlton837]

Yes but it’s Groundhog Day. We play with no intent and go behind. I’m sure if we have a manager that doesn’t hurl insults at people that won’t happen. Let’s face it it never did in the early days under him when he didn’t have this vengeance.

Supporters want to support but you have to be given something to get behind, that comes from owner, manager and players. I don’t feel we’ve had that much in a couple of years. I don’t boo at every game and shout negatives however I understand how we’ve reached this point. Fans raised concerns which were ignored and even laughed at then they feel the only way to be heard is at games by showing their displeasure. It’s not a healthy way to be. If you look back at eadt articles from 2 years back they are almost identical to today and that’s the problem, same concerns being raised but nobody within Itfc doing anything to change it, shown in the 15% drop in ST holders this season

[number 9]

No matter what the reasons, MM should not have participated in the mug-slinging with said 'numbskulls'. If anything, he should have embraced the fans that did stand behind him. It also isn't very professional for a manager to scream profanities at fans, regardless of what kind of stick he gets...in my opinion. Let's not forget, the fans are the customers. How would you feel if your butcher told you to f*ck off after you told him his sausages were bland? You probably wouldn't go to that butcher anymore. Anyway, sausages aside...MM contributed to the toxic atmosphere at Portman Road in more ways than yelling at the fans.

[herforder]

Marko certainly knows a bland sausage when he sees one, tends to keep quiet about it though!

[bluejacko]

Bloody hell! All this toxic atmosphere bollards! If you really want that go to the London Stadium!
Have we had pitch invasions,fans in front of the directors box hurling abuse?
If a couple of chants about his football is ‘toxic’ god help us. These ‘numbskulls’ are the same people who make a noise when things are rarely going well,and still come despite dwindling crowds.No players have actually been singled out for this so called abuse,despite what McCarthy would have you believe. It has all been aimed at his style of football which is so boring that any atmosphere is almost impossible to achieve.

[herforder]

Yes....it’s the football, stupid!

[herforder]

Yes....it’s the football, stupid!

[marko69]

I’ve not seen ma bland sausage for YEARS........ Too many creme eggs!

[herforder]

I’ve not seen ma bland sausage for YEARS........ Too many creme eggs!

[Bluemike]

Bloody hell! All this toxic atmosphere bollards! If you really want that go to the London Stadium!
Have we had pitch invasions,fans in front of the directors box hurling abuse?
If a couple of chants about his football is ‘toxic’ god help us. These ‘numbskulls’ are the same people who make a noise when things are rarely going well,and still come despite dwindling crowds.No players have actually been singled out for this so called abuse,despite what McCarthy would have you believe. It has all been aimed at his style of football which is so boring that any atmosphere is almost impossible to achieve.

I think Jonathan Douglas would beg to differ and the treatment of Nydam was plain idiotic.

[bluejacko]

Bloody hell! All this toxic atmosphere bollards! If you really want that go to the London Stadium!
Have we had pitch invasions,fans in front of the directors box hurling abuse?
If a couple of chants about his football is ‘toxic’ god help us. These ‘numbskulls’ are the same people who make a noise when things are rarely going well,and still come despite dwindling crowds.No players have actually been singled out for this so called abuse,despite what McCarthy would have you believe. It has all been aimed at his style of football which is so boring that any atmosphere is almost impossible to achieve.

I think Jonathan Douglas would beg to differ and the treatment of Nydam was plain idiotic.

I think you will find Nydam did not know anything about any abuse until McCarthy just happened to mention it after the game.He just happened to misplace a pass which got the same reaction to other players that night.Do you not put your head in your hands sometimes at the simplest pass etc going astray?

[herforder]

Whilst MM has been the main - done to death - subject of the club’s woes, no real attention has focused on the players’ performances over the season. Having seen every home match, and around 6 away matches, there were too many occasions where individuals, and team performances were not good enough. Lack of collective commitment and energy, too ready to let heads drop, individual poor decision making and desire to effect the game and failure to get the basics of football right: closing down, winning second balls, accurate pass and move etc etc. MM was/is invariably loyal to his ‘hard working’ charges; but, in truth, there were loads of occasions where they let him down. Something Luke Chambers sort of alluded to recently. Yes the manager must accept ultimate responsibility for results, team selection and set up. But once the white line is crossed professional players need to deliver on a consistent basis. On too many occasions this hasn’t happened.

[hallamblue]

It's not wit and dry humour that's the problem. It's insults aimed at the club's supporters. He's clearly very good at keeping people on side when he wants to (ie. Players and staff) but has made no attempt with fans and even goaded them to the point they have walked away in many cases.

When he first came here he wasn't aiming his words at his own supporters so in that respect he has changed. He's got some qualities as a manager but the disdain he has for fans is always going to be his downfall

I agree with you Charlton. I think McCarthy hates having his approach, methods and football style challenged by anyone. Of course fans ( of any Club he’s managed at), in the end will challenge his approach when things go off the rails. It’s a closed mind , when a person cannot be open to critiquing ( that word doesn’t nescesarily mean criticism either).

If a person cannot reflect upon their approach, and “outcomes”from those approaches when they have gone wrong, then they will continue to make the same mistakes. This is
McCarthy ‘s biggest downfall and inherent Achilles heel, IMO. He will therefore never change his ways , approach or methods, which makes him outdated in the modern game. He is arrogant, and narrow minded, ( some would say single minded), but it’s his primary weakness.


COYB’ s we moved forward now. And I’m looking forward t9 our new manager taking control of this squad.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

TBH, I could not be less interested about the new manager.
Whoever it is will be expected to produce results on a shoestring budget with absolutely no backing from the owner - and in the Championship as it stands today that's an impossible task.
Managers will change, but the fortune of the club will not as long as ME remains the owner.

At least it will not be Maclaren - no way he would come here without the guarantee of a significant player budget and that's never going to happen.

[hallamblue]

Sadly , you might well be right Rossi.

Any further news in the City that Evans is trying to sell the Club?

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Sadly , you might well be right Rossi.

Any further news in the City that Evans is trying to sell the Club?

Unfortunately not, Liz. From what I have picked up, he's given up on the idea of selling and he's content to continue with ITFC as the loss-making arm of his empire.

[marko69]

Sadly , you might well be right Rossi.

Any further news in the City that Evans is trying to sell the Club?

Unfortunately not, Liz. From what I have picked up, he's given up on the idea of selling and he's content to continue with ITFC as the loss-making arm of his empire.

That ^^^ small conversation reminded me of Starsky & Hutch.

Hallam, you can be Starsky.
Rossi, you can be Huggy Bear.

Starsky: “Whats the word on the Streets, Huggy about Evans and the Club. Is he trying to offload it?”
Huggy Bear: Def-EE-net-Lee not, Starsk. Check it out, from what I have zoned in on, he's given up on the idea of selling ya dig, and he's content to continue with offloading illegal tickets for big profits and keeping ITFC as the loss-making arm of his empire.

[Bluemike]

New manager.....Antonio Fargas

[ashfordblue]

Norwich manager Farke Ipswich manager Fartgas, nope not for me it stinks, the two meet prior to kick off, Farke to Fartgas, You hav a shitty line up Antonio, Ja but jours it tis also Farkeing sh*t mine frund

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

looking at the betting odds, I see Frank Lampard is 20/1
there could be worse choices I think

[Magicmark]

Whoever is appointment as the new manager should expect to hear lots of booing & moaning if the results dont go our way