Twa8 Trump's antics and the effects

[ITFC2024]

When Trump enters a room it sounds like Darth Vader entering the conn:

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump…Truuump!

“What is thy bidding, my master.”
“Tariff every f**king planet in the universe, helmet.”

“But master, we are outnumbered by the Chinese Sith!”
“You’re fired commander, drown on your incompetence!”

[marko69]

When Trump enters a room it sounds like Darth Vader entering the conn:

Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump…Truuump!

“What is thy bidding, my master.”
“Tariff every f**king planet in the universe, helmet.”

“But master, we are outnumbered by the Chinese Sith!”
“You’re fired commander, drown on your incompetence!”

“Did you mean drown in my incontinence, master? I am indeed full of pish!”

[MMJR67]

a lot of people trash the BBC news...but Im not a political animal , but i do tend to trust most of what they report on... not sure any newpapers are trustworthy though , they are out to make a buck arent they .. and most appear to be owned by individuals with a Conservative political bias.

I do not trust any big network, or publication . over here all democrat controlled.

Rupert Murdock and your BBC are biased for sure.Joe Bidens admin gave the BBC millions to air their agenda.

FAKES NEWS SELLS and some people believe everything they read.

Was it not you who said that you had formed the opinion that Zelensky is a crook from what you had read/seen on news media, yet you are now claiming that some news media including the BBC are fake and corrupt and that some people will believe anything they read?
Pot - kettle - black

i dont read democratic news , I get my info from credible sources . no pot call sir.

[MMJR67]

Strategic location of Greenland , we already have a base there, and had submarines based there in WW2, in the future England will be glad it happens.
Arctic areas will be sought by Russia and China, maybe others. Greenland included, this is strategic.
kind of like how we have bases all over Europe and the rest of the world to protect it and us.

Yes, but the US is not alone in having bases all over the world - many countries choose to operate military bases across the globe for security reasons. But they are content to have their base and leave the running of the country housing that base to that country's government - unlike the US who seems to think it has the God-given right to take anything it wants. It's obvious that Russia and China are a threat to the rest of the world, and NATO was doing a pretty good job of being in the way of that happening until Trump's ego got in the way and he decided that it would be he that was the saviour of the world.

NATO , COME ON . Without the US , GOOD LUCK.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Strategic location of Greenland , we already have a base there, and had submarines based there in WW2, in the future England will be glad it happens.
Arctic areas will be sought by Russia and China, maybe others. Greenland included, this is strategic.
kind of like how we have bases all over Europe and the rest of the world to protect it and us.

Yes, but the US is not alone in having bases all over the world - many countries choose to operate military bases across the globe for security reasons. But they are content to have their base and leave the running of the country housing that base to that country's government - unlike the US who seems to think it has the God-given right to take anything it wants. It's obvious that Russia and China are a threat to the rest of the world, and NATO was doing a pretty good job of being in the way of that happening until Trump's ego got in the way and he decided that it would be he that was the saviour of the world.

NATO , COME ON . Without the US , GOOD LUCK.

lol typical American mentality, the whole world revolves around and needs the USA. Actually, it doesn't.

[marko69]

The United Kingdom certainly needs the USA. After the dumbfuckers among us voted for Brexit, and the subsequent underlying EU disdain towards us, we’re a bit of a much bigger isolated target without the USA. We need them.
That comforting NATO “feel” doesn’t exist anymore.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

The United Kingdom certainly needs the USA. After the dumbfuckers among us voted for Brexit, and the subsequent underlying EU disdain towards us, we’re a bit of a much bigger isolated target without the USA. We need them.
That comforting NATO “feel” doesn’t exist anymore.

We have a nuclear deterrent so no other country in their right mind would have a go at us even if they are better armed than we are. Unless, of course, Russia and China ever join forces - but if that happened there's nothing the US could do to save even themselves.

[marko69]

The UK could definitely defend itself in many situations. But for full security and strategic deterrence, especially against more global threats, it benefits from (and arguably needs) its alliance with the US. Especially post Brexit.

And this from AI...., "UK Nuclear Deterrent: The UK’s nuclear missiles (Trident) are carried on UK subs, but the missile tech is leased from the US."

Ultimately correct though. Should there ever be a "teaming up" scenario of the reds, (like my Dad seems to think is prophesised in the Big Book) then its all a bit screwed anyway.

[Blue Wilf]

The United Kingdom certainly needs the USA. After the dumbfuckers among us voted for Brexit, and the subsequent underlying EU disdain towards us, we’re a bit of a much bigger isolated target without the USA. We need them.
That comforting NATO “feel” doesn’t exist anymore.

As opposed to the dumbfucker remoaners amongst us who still cannot accept a democratic vote 9 years after the event? The EU is doing brilliantly isn't it... puts Trump issues into perspective when some people still want to be run remotely by the real EU...

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

The UK could definitely defend itself in many situations. But for full security and strategic deterrence, especially against more global threats, it benefits from (and arguably needs) its alliance with the US. Especially post Brexit.

And this from AI...., "UK Nuclear Deterrent: The UK’s nuclear missiles (Trident) are carried on UK subs, but the missile tech is leased from the US."

Ultimately correct though. Should there ever be a "teaming up" scenario of the reds, (like my Dad seems to think is prophesised in the Big Book) then its all a bit screwed anyway.

Hr's not wrong - it all fits in with what is written in Revelations

[marko69]

The United Kingdom certainly needs the USA. After the dumbfuckers among us voted for Brexit, and the subsequent underlying EU disdain towards us, we’re a bit of a much bigger isolated target without the USA. We need them.
That comforting NATO “feel” doesn’t exist anymore.

As opposed to the dumbfucker remoaners amongst us who still cannot accept a democratic vote 9 years after the event? The EU is doing brilliantly isn't it... puts Trump issues into perspective when some people still want to be run remotely by the real EU...

LMAO!!! Would’ve put my mortgage on you being a leaver!

[Blue Wilf]

The United Kingdom certainly needs the USA. After the dumbfuckers among us voted for Brexit, and the subsequent underlying EU disdain towards us, we’re a bit of a much bigger isolated target without the USA. We need them.
That comforting NATO “feel” doesn’t exist anymore.

As opposed to the dumbfucker remoaners amongst us who still cannot accept a democratic vote 9 years after the event? The EU is doing brilliantly isn't it... puts Trump issues into perspective when some people still want to be run remotely by the real EU...

LMAO!!! Would’ve put my mortgage on you being a leaver!

Glad to be of service and your mortgage is secure! Just glad I don't have one any more, when it would be at the behest of all of the global idiots in charge of the asylum!

[marko69]

As opposed to the dumbfucker remoaners amongst us who still cannot accept a democratic vote 9 years after the event? The EU is doing brilliantly isn't it... puts Trump issues into perspective when some people still want to be run remotely by the real EU...

LMAO!!! Would’ve put my mortgage on you being a leaver!

Glad to be of service and your mortgage is secure! Just glad I don't have one any more, when it would be at the behest of all of the global idiots in charge of the asylum!

Did you cash in all your crypto and pay the mortgage off?!

[Blue Wilf]

LMAO!!! Would’ve put my mortgage on you being a leaver!

Glad to be of service and your mortgage is secure! Just glad I don't have one any more, when it would be at the behest of all of the global idiots in charge of the asylum!

Did you cash in all your crypto and pay the mortgage off?!

No - I bet on McKenna making no changes to his game plan and remarkably, the bookies thought a miracle would happen as it was a 'process' - paid it all off nicely...!

[marko69]

[MMJR67]

Yes, but the US is not alone in having bases all over the world - many countries choose to operate military bases across the globe for security reasons. But they are content to have their base and leave the running of the country housing that base to that country's government - unlike the US who seems to think it has the God-given right to take anything it wants. It's obvious that Russia and China are a threat to the rest of the world, and NATO was doing a pretty good job of being in the way of that happening until Trump's ego got in the way and he decided that it would be he that was the saviour of the world.

NATO , COME ON . Without the US , GOOD LUCK.

lol typical American mentality, the whole world revolves around and needs the USA. Actually, it doesn't.

THAT MENTALITY is fact , deal with it or don't. America once helped you keep your country. remember that ?

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

THAT MENTALITY is fact , deal with it or don't. America once helped you keep your country. remember that ?

It's true that US presence played a small part in speeding up the end of WW2, but nowhere near the contribution that was made by Russia.

As for the mentality - yes, delusional as it is I accept and deal with it, I also laugh at it.

[marko69]

Think the biggest contribution was the Russian winter. That alone killed more German soldiers than gunfire. If the Netflix Nazi Germany documentaries are accurate that is.

Can you imagine it though. If all those guys, be them British, Russian or American had failed? ——>>> we’d have been goose-stepping to School like Basil Fawlty and Seig Heiling Elon Musk style.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Think the biggest contribution was the Russian winter. That alone killed more German soldiers than gunfire. If the Netflix Nazi Germany documentaries are accurate that is.

Can you imagine it though. If all those guys, be them British, Russian or American had failed? ——>>> we’d have been goose-stepping to School like Basil Fawlty and Seig Heiling Elon Musk style.

Not forgetting the Free French movement, the Dutch, and the Poles. And of course, it was Russia marching on Berlin that caused Hitler to take the cowards way out and ultimately led to the fall of the Nazis.

[Ricco]

“You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, only after they've tried everything else.” — Winston Churchill

Whilst being eternally grateful towards every country that fought and made sacrifices in WW2 (and every war against an aggressor), if it's being waved in my face... I would retort by saying that only 0.3% of the horrendous war death toll were Americans in Europe. It's not fair to limp in late during a conflict, after 25 million Russians (and the weather) had decimated the Nazi forces, and claim to be some omnipotent saviour of the World.

I would also point out that there are 600 million Europeans and 335 million Americans on this planet. When you count the other allies like Canada, Aus, Japan, who will turn their backs on the US if the US continues down this path... then the US will soon find out that it needs the world more than vice versa, despite what they think. Yes the US is a rich country, but not when the world stops buying it's tech and weaponry. The country is a mess... drugs, guns, medical care, education, inequality, it's all completely woeful compared to other 'developed' nations in nearly every metric. Perhaps they should focus on themselves for a while, rather than blaming the world for their problems and telling everyone else how to run their business, the arrogance is astonishing. But then I guess most of maga have never travelled abroad and set foot in civilised lands.

Militarily who is going to want to try and invade the UK? No one, (apart from Trump perhaps), so our military is for European protection/stability and world stability/UK influence/reputation. We do not need the US, we should align with Europe, we share more culture and values with them (despite the language differences). Until the US can prove itself again, it can be on it's own. The damage it has done to it's own reputation in such a short time is phenomenal. Sadly that means China, Ukraine and Israel all have far worse prognosis than they did 6 months ago. But I guess everything I've just written is Biden's fault?

[Blue Wilf]

“You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, only after they've tried everything else.” — Winston Churchill

Whilst being eternally grateful towards every country that fought and made sacrifices in WW2 (and every war against an aggressor), if it's being waved in my face... I would retort by saying that only 0.3% of the horrendous war death toll were Americans in Europe. It's not fair to limp in late during a conflict, after 25 million Russians (and the weather) had decimated the Nazi forces, and claim to be some omnipotent saviour of the World.

I would also point out that there are 600 million Europeans and 335 million Americans on this planet. When you count the other allies like Canada, Aus, Japan, who will turn their backs on the US if the US continues down this path... then the US will soon find out that it needs the world more than vice versa, despite what they think. Yes the US is a rich country, but not when the world stops buying it's tech and weaponry. The country is a mess... drugs, guns, medical care, education, inequality, it's all completely woeful compared to other 'developed' nations in nearly every metric. Perhaps they should focus on themselves for a while, rather than blaming the world for their problems and telling everyone else how to run their business, the arrogance is astonishing. But then I guess most of maga have never travelled abroad and set foot in civilised lands.

Militarily who is going to want to try and invade the UK? No one, (apart from Trump perhaps), so our military is for European protection/stability and world stability/UK influence/reputation. We do not need the US, we should align with Europe, we share more culture and values with them (despite the language differences). Until the US can prove itself again, it can be on it's own. The damage it has done to it's own reputation in such a short time is phenomenal. Sadly that means China, Ukraine and Israel all have far worse prognosis than they did 6 months ago. But I guess everything I've just written is Biden's fault?

As long as it is only militarily aligning with Europe, then it's WORD from me!

[marko69]

Between my late Grandad, currently still alive Nana (98) , dad, Netflix documentaries, Rossi & Ricco --->> every day is a learning day!

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

“You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, only after they've tried everything else.” — Winston Churchill

Whilst being eternally grateful towards every country that fought and made sacrifices in WW2 (and every war against an aggressor), if it's being waved in my face... I would retort by saying that only 0.3% of the horrendous war death toll were Americans in Europe. It's not fair to limp in late during a conflict, after 25 million Russians (and the weather) had decimated the Nazi forces, and claim to be some omnipotent saviour of the World.

I would also point out that there are 600 million Europeans and 335 million Americans on this planet. When you count the other allies like Canada, Aus, Japan, who will turn their backs on the US if the US continues down this path... then the US will soon find out that it needs the world more than vice versa, despite what they think. Yes the US is a rich country, but not when the world stops buying it's tech and weaponry. The country is a mess... drugs, guns, medical care, education, inequality, it's all completely woeful compared to other 'developed' nations in nearly every metric. Perhaps they should focus on themselves for a while, rather than blaming the world for their problems and telling everyone else how to run their business, the arrogance is astonishing. But then I guess most of maga have never travelled abroad and set foot in civilised lands.

Militarily who is going to want to try and invade the UK? No one, (apart from Trump perhaps), so our military is for European protection/stability and world stability/UK influence/reputation. We do not need the US, we should align with Europe, we share more culture and values with them (despite the language differences). Until the US can prove itself again, it can be on it's own. The damage it has done to it's own reputation in such a short time is phenomenal. Sadly that means China, Ukraine and Israel all have far worse prognosis than they did 6 months ago. But I guess everything I've just written is Biden's fault?

WORD WORD WORD. I guess you need to be an alien living in the US to be able to get the best perspective

[ITFC2024]

When my cousin was a baby, his mum used to say he’d trumped when he farted. Perhaps it was a prophecy?

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

When my cousin was a baby, his mum used to say he’d trumped when he farted. Perhaps it was a prophecy?

surely that's an insult to farts?

But you are correct, since the mid 15th century the word Trump has been used in England as a synonym for a fart, particularly an extremely noisy fart. Nostradamus, eat your heart out.

[ITFC2024]

When my cousin was a baby, his mum used to say he’d trumped when he farted. Perhaps it was a prophecy?

surely that's an insult to farts?

But you are correct, since the mid 15th century the word Trump has been used in England as a synonym for a fart, particularly an extremely noisy fart. Nostradamus, eat your heart out.

I appreciate the history lesson. Another question: I’ve argued with many people about the origin of football. Many latinos or hispanics tell me they invented futbol. But from my recollections, football was in fact invented in medieval England when a villain had his head chopped off and the town’s people kicked his/her head around town. Acknowledging that you’re one of odious proportions, would you agree with my assessment? Oops, I just trumped! Seriously though, surely football wasn’t invented by those Mexicans or whoever? Can we at least claim football?

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

When my cousin was a baby, his mum used to say he’d trumped when he farted. Perhaps it was a prophecy?

surely that's an insult to farts?

But you are correct, since the mid 15th century the word Trump has been used in England as a synonym for a fart, particularly an extremely noisy fart. Nostradamus, eat your heart out.

I appreciate the history lesson. Another question: I’ve argued with many people about the origin of football. Many latinos or hispanics tell me they invented futbol. But from my recollections, football was in fact invented in medieval England when a villain had his head chopped off and the town’s people kicked his/her head around town. Acknowledging that you’re one of odious proportions, would you agree with my assessment? Oops, I just trumped! Seriously though, surely football wasn’t invented by those Mexicans or whoever? Can we at least claim football?

As long ago as 300BC, a crude form of football was played in China with a leather ball that had to be kicked into a hole. Since then there have been crude forms involving kicking a ball in many countries over the world, and I have read about the incident in medieval England you describe.

But football as we know it - with a pitch, goals, rules etc was first codified and played in England in the 19th century, culmination with the foundation of the FA in 1863 and marking the beginning of standardisation of the game across the world.

[Ricco]

As long ago as 300BC, a crude form of football was played in China with a leather ball that had to be kicked into a hole.

Interesting, so the Chinese invented footgolf!

I guess one reason why so many countries lay claim to Football is because they probably did have it in some form. I imagine even if you went back 100,000 years, you would still find people kicking about pine cones, gourds, tumbleweed etc.

An interesting (probably boring to some) timeline of Football:

1863 - The FA was formed to standardise the rules after the sport became increasingly popular in the middle of the 1800s. The official name became “association football” — to differentiate it from rugby football (which later split into rugby union and rugby league).

1880s - British university students had a trend of adding “-er” to words, so rugby became rugger, and association became assoccer... then shortened to soccer. So whisper it quietly (as I loathe the term), but the English used Soccer and Football interchangeably until around the 1960s.

1960s-80s - Soccer was used less and less as it was increasingly seen as an Americanism, due to 'Football' being rarely used in the US because of the conflict with Gridiron, Handball, Throw Ball... sorry... American 'Football'.

[marko69]

1859 Melbourne Football Club established. Oldest “football” club in the world.

According to the AI BOT to be officially codified in order.

1. Aussie Rules in 1859, (From the centuries old Aboriginal Marn Grook)

2. Football / Soccer in 1863 , (although Sheffield FC & Notts County are 1861 & 1862 respectively…., so )

3. Rugby Union 1880s

[marko69]

Great twisting & turning thread btw.

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