Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

[marko69]

Can’t speak for everyone, but I think I don’t give a flying monkeys ringpiece anymore. Obviously hoping Mevans makes the right choice, but fk it, the heids burst.

Phone rings:

Mevans: Hello, Marcus Evans here.
Marko69: MAKE A FKN DECISION, A$$HOLE!

[Ricco]

So Ross is willing to choose the 3rd tier of English football over the 2nd tier? Really? Just seems strange that's all, slight lack of ambition too.

If it turns out to be the case I imagine it's not just ambition. He knows he is an inexperienced manager and hasn't managed at a large club, a job at Ipswich could make or break a young manager's career, at Sunderland he gets a job at a big club, but out of the limelight and lets face it, we're more likely to get relegated than Sunderland.

I've also made the point in other threads about his life thus far, he's never really left the nest and when he did, he went home homesick. In that regard Sunderland is closer to home and a chance for him to take a stepping stone in his life and career rather than a big leap. I also think that we've messed him around, not only does he know he's second choice to Hurst, we're willing to risk his appointment waiting for Hurst, I wouldn't feel particularly wanted and if Sunderland have come in and said the job is yours start tomorrow, then I can't blame him for taking it.

It's pretty clear, unless all the signs and noises are way out, that Hurst is our first choice and Ross was number two, if Ross goes to Sunderland and Hurst decides to stay with Shrewsbury, I will be livid. Evans must have Hurst's word that he's coming, if he doesn't have that he is an enormous donkey (putting it mildly).

[number 9]

Why are so many people confident that Hurst is ME's first choice? Has ME ever made a public statement to support the idea of Hurst replacing MM?

[Tangfastic]

Why are so many people confident that Hurst is ME's first choice? Has ME ever made a public statement to support the idea of Hurst replacing MM?

It seems like it’s because of the deadline ME stated which fits in with the play offs. He’s the only one we could be hanging around for. Christ, we’ve had so much time for first interviews and second interviews to have made a decision by now... just seems logical that Hurst is the one.

So ME has to get him. Simple. Or I can see a serious shitstorm.

[number 9]

Why are so many people confident that Hurst is ME's first choice? Has ME ever made a public statement to support the idea of Hurst replacing MM?

It seems like it’s because of the deadline ME stated which fits in with the play offs. He’s the only one we could be hanging around for. Christ, we’ve had so much time for first interviews and second interviews to have made a decision by now... just seems logical that Hurst is the one.

So ME has to get him. Simple. Or I can see a serious shitstorm.

Oh right, cheers! So it's just speculation then? (More like a sh*t-tornado if it's someone like Pardew, Moyes or Fat Sam!)

[Bluemike]

I'm not sure why some are saying "we've missed out again " have I missed something, did we offer Ross the job ? No we didn't, we haven't missed out on anybody thus far. It's obvious to a blind man ME wants to interview Hurst and I , like Azzuro says thinks contact has probably already been made. ME had to have a plan B hence all the other interviews to kill time, Hurst's comments when asked about his situation spoke volumes to me, done with dignity.

[marko69]

(More like a sh*t-tornado if it's someone like Pardew, Moyes or Fat Sam!)

Yes, the absolutely fantastic idea of speaking to the fans through an official 25 minute video could potentially make him look like a proper bellend should one of those tw@ts take over.

[GandB]

(More like a sh*t-tornado if it's someone like Pardew, Moyes or Fat Sam!)

Yes, the absolutely fantastic idea of speaking to the fans through an official 25 minute video could potentially make him look like a proper bellend should one of those tw@ts take over.

your in luck mate.

Walter has made himself available.

[Charnwood]

It’s almost 2 months since it was formally announced that McCarthy was leaving Portman Road. At the time DB posted that he assumed a replacement was lined up. If it was we can only conclude that it was Paul Hurst, however if this was the case why would we interview so many other candidates.
Sorry to be a little negative but i’m starting to feel concerned that we’ll end up with the scraps left at the table after our more dynamic competitors have swiftly and decisively picked all the cherries.

Bloody hell if DB was me then I had better be more careful what I say. Too many folks on here with good memory!

It is just possible that I was not correct in that assumption

No worries DB, it seemed quite plausible at the time however it’s quite clear now we didn’t have a plan at all.

[Charnwood]

So Ross is willing to choose the 3rd tier of English football over the 2nd tier? Really? Just seems strange that's all, slight lack of ambition too.

If it turns out to be the case I imagine it's not just ambition. He knows he is an inexperienced manager and hasn't managed at a large club, a job at Ipswich could make or break a young manager's career, at Sunderland he gets a job at a big club, but out of the limelight and lets face it, we're more likely to get relegated than Sunderland.

I've also made the point in other threads about his life thus far, he's never really left the nest and when he did, he went home homesick. In that regard Sunderland is closer to home and a chance for him to take a stepping stone in his life and career rather than a big leap. I also think that we've messed him around, not only does he know he's second choice to Hurst, we're willing to risk his appointment waiting for Hurst, I wouldn't feel particularly wanted and if Sunderland have come in and said the job is yours start tomorrow, then I can't blame him for taking it.

It's pretty clear, unless all the signs and noises are way out, that Hurst is our first choice and Ross was number two, if Ross goes to Sunderland and Hurst decides to stay with Shrewsbury, I will be livid. Evans must have Hurst's word that he's coming, if he doesn't have that he is an enormous donkey (putting it mildly).

”Out of the limelight”.... at Sunderland!...... I think you’re having a laugh there Ricco,
Managing at Sunderland is a far bigger job, probably a higher paid job too than managing at Ipswich and Ross will be far from out of the limelight.
Managing Sunderland in League One will be high profile, and anything less than automatic promotion at the end of next season and he will be deemed a failure.
To be honest if I were a manager being offered the two jobs of managing Sunderland or Ipswich, first choice would be Sunderland every time.
....and as for thinking it has anything to do with being homesick or having never left the nest, forget it. Moving 3hrs / 180 miles away is no different to moving twice as far, you have to relocate and you can’t pop home for a family meal, there is no difference and it won’t have featured in his decision making process.
I suspect we never got as far as making him an offer because we’re pissing around playing at it.
As for Hurst if we really wanted him we could have got him to sign a contract and closed the deal weeks ago with a privacy clause written in & non disclosure until after the play offs, but this is highly unlikely as there would have been no need to interview other candidates.
My personal view is that we’re making a bit of a meal of it and risking screwing it up.

[marko69]

(More like a sh*t-tornado if it's someone like Pardew, Moyes or Fat Sam!)

Yes, the absolutely fantastic idea of speaking to the fans through an official 25 minute video could potentially make him look like a proper bellend should one of those tw@ts take over.

your in luck mate.

Walter has made himself available.

I don't think the Ipswich fans would be very good "ZengaBoys!"

[Ricco]

My personal view is that we’re making a bit of a meal of it and risking screwing it up.

This is my worry, we've seemingly done it plenty of times with players in the past, dilly-dallying, negotiating over a few pennies before eventually losing out and picking up other's unwanted scraps.

I hear what you're saying with the size of the job, I guess you're right, but other big teams that drop down to league one tend to go off the radar a little it seems. Ipswich are stable, if they drop now it looks like the manager, if Sunderland fail, then after a year he can blame it on the fact they're in turmoil, point to his previous successes and get a half decent job elsewhere. I know distance isn't really a thing and is unlikely to be a major part of his decision, but who knows, he may have a young family or an aging/ill parent and then it can be a deciding factor.

Nevertheless if he accepts the job at Sunderland as it seems he may have, it will be because they've shown more interest in him and offered him an acceptable deal, well done Sunderland, I wish I had the same confidence in our board's ability to do the same.

Ask Hurst what he wants, double it and then bite his hand off.

[Bluemike]

Having interviewed Jack Ross twice and still not offered him the job has it dawned on anyone that just maybe Evans felt he wasn't right for us or perhaps they couldn't agree terms etc ? There could be all manner of reasons, we arent privvy to the discussions, we clearly had the opportunity had we wished to offer him the job, i struggle to see where ME has missed the boat , there has to be a reason he didnt try to get his man.

[derick_ipsw]

Having interviewed Jack Ross twice and still not offered him the job has it dawned on anyone that just maybe Evans felt he wasn't right for us or perhaps they couldn't agree terms etc ? There could be all manner of reasons, we arent privvy to the discussions, we clearly had the opportunity had we wished to offer him the job, i struggle to see where ME has missed the boat , there has to be a reason he didnt try to get his man.

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/ ... _new_boss/ THIS SAYS VERY DIFFERENT!!

[Bluemike]

He hasnt turned us down though Derick as we hadnt offered him anything, he has jumped at the chance of a big job much closer to home, good luck to him. The reason Evans wants to interview Hurst is because he has always been his first choice so for me resisting the temptation of opting for second best is spot on, of course Hurst may not happen either but I tend to think he's a cert to be here next week, although ive been wrong before!!! Or have I ??? No f*ck it I'm never wrong.....welcome Paul Hurst LMAO.

[marko69]

Ipswich Town FC.
English Championship
405 miles away from Glasgow.

Sunderland FC
English League One
166 miles away from Glasgow.
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No brainer for someone who could potentially get homesick. He’s going to be another Robbie Neilson anyway, so Fk em.

Good luck, Jack.

[Charnwood]

Ipswich Town FC.
English Championship
405 miles away from Glasgow.

Sunderland FC
English League One
166 miles away from Glasgow.
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No brainer for someone who could potentially get homesick. He’s going to be another Robbie Neilson anyway, so Fk em.

Good luck, Jack.

Having spent a career in management with many relocations it makes not a jot of difference to homesickness if you’re 160 miles or 400 miles from your hometown. In each case you lose regular contact with friends and family and have to build a new life for yourself and your immediate family in the new location. I’m fairly confident location will have been way down Jack Ross’s list of considerations when choosing between Sunderland and Ipswich, and everything to do with terms & conditions, salary and the owners ambition.

[marko69]

Totally agree regarding 400 or 160, Charny......... But it's 405 and 166! Those extra miles were the game changer!

[Tangfastic]

He hasnt turned us down though Derick as we hadnt offered him anything, he has jumped at the chance of a big job much closer to home, good luck to him. The reason Evans wants to interview Hurst is because he has always been his first choice so for me resisting the temptation of opting for second best is spot on, of course Hurst may not happen either but I tend to think he's a cert to be here next week, although ive been wrong before!!! Or have I ??? No f*ck it I'm never wrong.....welcome Paul Hurst LMAO.

I’m pretty sure Ross was a popular, attainable and made for measure 2nd choice in the mould that Evans wanted.

I can’t see a decent third, fourth, fifth choice. No one would give a f*ck about Ross if we had decent alternatives.
Best case scenario is that Hurst is already in the bag and it’s a case of waiting until the play offs are over before it’s announced. The fact we’ve been interviewing for weeks doesn’t really back up the theory we’ve got the deal sown up.
It seems a high risk strategy and, even more so now with no adequate back up plan. He’s simply got to get Hurst or it’s a total drawn out c*ck up.
I don’t think Ross’ decision is based on location..... he just got offered a good deal. We didn’t offer him one.
We should see by next week if we’ve got our first choice. It’s obvious we’ve been hanging around for him. I hope it’s worth the wait. If he’s not coming it would make the whole recruitment process a sham and we’d just be grasping for anyone.

[Bluemike]

Over 100 applicants, we are just assuming there are no other popular options available to us, it all hinges on how it goes with Hurst but Tisdale, Potter, White, Jones are all appealing in other ways, we are just guessing that ME is f**king up, I dont believe he is at all.

[herforder]

Have always believed PH was ME’s first choice; what seems likely, and for whatever the reasons, is that the second choice bloke is now off the radar. (Although believe nowt until formal announcement).

We just need to hold our collective nerves for a tad longer, to see how the PH things pans out. Thereafter, if the outcome isn’t good, everyone needs to put their sh@t storm protective clothing on; and starting taking their anti-Pardew/Grayson/Lambert etc meds!

[Dubai Blue]

Over 100 applicants, we are just assuming there are no other popular options available to us, it all hinges on how it goes with Hurst but Tisdale, Potter, White, Jones are all appealing in other ways, we are just guessing that ME is f**king up, I dont believe he is at all.

BlueMike you have hit the nail on the head. Couldn't agree more. Just let's wait and see how this pans out.

We were all crazy about Stejn not long ago and that guy from Taiwan looked interesting to me if only for his galaxy of coaching qualifications. I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg.

I wonder if Wilnis applied? Somewhere I did read that a number of ex-players applied. Mariner anyone?

[Charnwood]

Totally agree regarding 400 or 160, Charny......... But it's 405 and 166! Those extra miles were the game changer!

Nice one Marco, and if we’re splitting hairs it’s 172 miles from Paisley to Sunderland.

[charlton837]

its now obvious Hurst is our number 1 target. I am willing to bet that personal terms wont be a problem, even if another club comes in for hurst. Evans often pays the managers a fair wage, he certainly did with Mick. If we trying to get Hurst I think there will be a good chance it could happen.

As BM says if not then there will be some other options, id have been happy with Ross but I guess timing has not been great with Shrewsbury in the play off final, if they had lost out in the semi finals I think we would have our man in place by now, whether that be Hurst or Ross

[marko69]

Totally agree regarding 400 or 160, Charny......... But it's 405 and 166! Those extra miles were the game changer!

Nice one Marco, and if we’re splitting hairs it’s 172 miles from Paisley to Sunderland.

Well, I'd keep it at the 166...... No one fully returns to Paisley!

In any case, he's from Falkirk so that's only 160......... SO......... You were right in the first place!

[Shed on tour]

So far the only thing that has been confirmed straight from the horses mouth is:

1) The announcement of a new manager will probably be at the end of May beginning of June.

2) We are going to try something different.

With regards to the first, Evans seems to have stuck to his word and as for trying something different this will become apparent if this is the case when the new manager is announced.

As for anything else none of us have a clue what Evans is thinking or who he wants and so it is just a case of wait and see.

Give us all something to talk about during the Off-season though!

[Bluemike]

Spot on Tony, he's keeping to his word on timing etc but still somehow dragging his heels lmfao, even when the guy is up front he is in the wrong.

[herforder]

Yes, short on hard facts, but plenty of second-guessing and speculation. Nothing much changes! We’re all trying to look into the fog where, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed guy reigns supreme! Don’t think we’ve got one of those on here, though many are trying hard to be that person!

In Marcus we have to trust - he’ll see us right: honest! Keep Calm and Pray!

[Watership Down]

Phone rings..... Hurst here I hear you are looking for a new manager
ME yes we are, I'm so glad you called we are prepared to double whatever you are getting
Wow that's great I'll be round in the morning.
Oh that's wonderful news looking forward to seeing you then Paul
Paul? This is Geoff and I was looking to boost my pension.

[Tangfastic]

I suppose it’s a patience thing and Marcus will come up with the goods next week.

Just had a look at the bookies odds on the next Derby manager.

I see Fat Frank is odds on favourite. I saw Paul Hurst at a lowly 33/1... not even a consideration.

Which begs the question .... Why the f*ck are we going after a manager no one else wants ???? !!!! Sort it out, Evans!!!!