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3 points from Santa?

Ipswich Win
10
56%
Middlesbrough Win
4
22%
Draw
4
22%
 
Total votes: 18

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Ipswich Town vs Middlesbrough Match Preview

Post by Frosty » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:59 am

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Saturday 20th December 2014 - 15:00
Portman Road



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Opening thought Jamma


In the wake of Mick McCarthy’s words ahead of Saturday’s trip to Bolton, about how his mantra of there being ‘no such thing as a bad away point’ still applied, it was somewhat inevitable that we would come away from the Macron Stadium with a draw. As Mick himself may well have said, ‘If you’d offered me a point beforehand, I wouldn’t have bothered to get on the bus’! It was also ironic that, on the day the East Anglian Daily Times ran a back-page feature on McCarthy’s confidence in our strikeforce, Town would register their first goalless draw of the season. But that’s enough of the negatives! The general consensus is that it was a point gained on Saturday, even though we enjoyed the best of the chances in the second half and looked the more likely to win it. As Bluemike quite rightly pointed out in the Bolton match thread, we may have ‘dropped’ two points but, with Derby missing out on all three, we actually find ourselves a point closer to the league summit, even though we have also moved down a couple of places.

The Superblues have now picked up 38 points from 21 matches, exactly the same tally as we had at this stage of our last promotion campaign in 1999/2000. While we obviously went on to secure a play-off place that year, we are also just 4 points short of the 2-points-a-game ratio that generally results in automatic promotion. With three of our next four league games being at Portman Road – and all against fellow promotion challengers – there would seem to be an excellent opportunity to pick up the pace over the hectic Christmas period. This begins with the mouth-watering prospect of a home encounter against an in-form Middlesbrough, who have had a (very brief) taste of topping the table and will be keen to get back there…



The Opposition - Middlesbrough


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The club turned professional in 1889, but reverted to amateur status in 1892. They turned professional permanently in 1899 and after three seasons, they won promotion to the First Division, where they would remain for the next 22 years.

In 1903, the club moved to Ayresome Park, their home for the next 92 years.

Over the next few years, their form fluctuated greatly, rising to sixth in 1907–08 before dropping to seventeenth two seasons later. The club rose to their highest league finish to date, third, in 1913–14. The First World War soon intervened and football was suspended. Before league football resumed, Middlesbrough won the Northern Victory League, but the team were unable to maintain their previous form and finished the 1919–20 season in mid-table. They remained in the First Division for the next few seasons, but were relegated in 1923–24 after finishing bottom, ten points adrift of their nearest rivals.

Three seasons later, they won the Division Two title. Their tenure back in the top flight lasted only one season, and the club were relegated. They were promoted at the first attempt in 1928–29, winning another Second Division title. The club remained in the First Division until 1954.

Middlesbrough climbed to fourth in the last full season before the Second World War and were expected to challenge for the title next season, but the war intervened. After the war, the club was unable to recover the form of the previous seasons and hovered around mid-table and exited in the early rounds of the FA Cup. Soon afterwards the team began to falter, eventually suffering relegation in 1953–54. This was the start of a 20-year spell outside the top division.

Over that period, Middlesbrough maintained reasonable progress in the Second Division but were never serious contenders for promotion. After a fourth place finish in 1962–63, the club endured a steady decline and were relegated to the Third Division for the first time in their history in 1966.

New manager Stan Anderson returned the club to the second flight at the first attempt. Middlesbrough would not finish below ninth during the next eight seasons. By 1974, Jack Charlton had taken over as manager and guided the team back to the top flight.

The club experienced severe financial difficulties during the mid-1980s. In the 1984–85 season. In April 1986 the club had to borrow £30,000 from the PFA to pay wages. The final game of the season saw Middlesbrough relegated to the Third Division once more. That summer, the club called in the Provisional Liquidator and shortly afterwards, the club was wound up and the gates to Ayresome Park were padlocked. Without the £350,000 capital required for Football League registration, a new rule, it seemed inevitable that the club would fold permanently. However, Steve Gibson, a member of the board at the time, brought together a consortium and with ten minutes to spare before the deadline, they completed their registration with the Football League for the 1986–87 season. Following the registration came both a change of club crest and a change of the official company name to Middlesbrough Football and Athletic Club (1986) Ltd.

Over the next two seasons, Middlesbrough gained successive promotions into Division Two and then into Division One. The next season though, they came straight back down to Division Two. Despite constant promotion and relegation, Middlesbrough were founding members of the FA Premier League for the 1992–93 season.

The 1996–97 season was compounded by a deduction of three points imposed just after Christmas, as punishment for the club's failure to fulfil a fixture against Blackburn, which ultimately resulted in relegation. At the same time, the club managed to reach both the League and FA Cup finals for the first time, but lost out in both. Despite being in the second tier they were again runners up in the League Cup final the next year.

Middlesbrough were promoted back to the Premiership at the first attempt in 1998. They continued to stay secure in mid-table the following season.
Bryan Robson left the club before the start of 2001–02 season, having served as manager for 7 years, and was replaced by Manchester United assistant coach Steve McClaren. The following seasons saw Premiership security maintained as Middlesbrough slowly improved and were seen as a tough side to beat when playing at the Riverside Stadium. During McClaren's reign, Middlesbrough achieved their highest Premier league placing of 7th in the 2004–05 season.

The 2003–04 season was the most successful in the club's history as they finally won a major trophy after beating Bolton in the League Cup final.

Middlesbrough reached the 2006 UEFA Cup Final in Eindhoven, following two comebacks in the rounds preceding it, but lost to Sevilla. Following the cup final, McClaren left to head up the England team, and captain Gareth Southgate took over, despite not having the coaching qualifications, but he was allowed to continue after receiving special dispensation. Southgate's first two seasons saw the club finish in 12th and 13th places. He oversaw the club reaching the quarter finals of the FA Cup for three seasons, but the club was relegated to the Football League Championship on the last day of the 2008–09 season.

Despite starting the 2010–11 campaign as promotion favourites, the club endured a disappointing start to the season securing only 1-point in 5 away games. Having slipped to 20th in the Championship following a home defeat to rivals Leeds, Gordon Strachan resigned on 18 October. A week later, Tony Mowbray was confirmed as the new manager. Having staved off the threat of relegation, Mowbray successfully transformed Boro's fortunes, eventually guiding them to a top-half finish.

Following a poor run of form of 2 wins in 12 games in the 2013–14 campaign, on 21 October 2013, nearly 3 years after his arrival, Tony Mowbray left the club with immediate effect. Aitor Karanka, a former Spanish defender and assistant coach at Real Madrid became the new Middlesbrough manager on 13 November 2013, signing a two-year contract. He became the first non-British manager at the club.





One To Watch - Enrique García (‘Kike’)


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We all know what Grant Leadbitter can (and can’t) do, even if he does seem to have gone on to be a different player since he left Portman Road. But Aitor Karanka has brought in a number of exciting talents since his arrival, making use of his impressive network of contacts from his days coaching in his homeland.

Probably the most high-profile of ‘Boro’s summer signings was Spanish striker Enrique García, better known by the rather endearing nickname ‘Kike’. The 25-year-old arrived at the Riverside with a reputation as a prolific goalscorer, albeit in Spain’s Segunda División, where his 23 strikes for Real Murcia in 2013/14 saw him finish as the league’s second highest scorer. Amid questions of whether he would be able to replicate his form in the hustle and bustle of English football’s second tier, Kike hasn’t taken long to adapt, netting seven goals in 24 appearances. Another summer arrival, Jelle Vossen, has kept the former Spanish U20 international out of the side in recent weeks, just underlining the strength in depth that ‘Boro boast in the attacking positions.



The Gaffer – Aitor Karanka


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Born in Vitoria-Gasteiz, Álava, Karanka played as a youth with hometown's Deportivo Alavés and then switched to Basque neighbours Athletic Bilbao. He made his senior debuts with the reserves of the latter in 1992, competing with the team in Segunda División.

Karanka was promoted to the main squad by Jupp Heynckes in 1993, making his La Liga debut on 7 November and going on to feature in exactly 100 league matches in his three full seasons, before joining Real Madrid in 1997. With the capital team he was used mostly as a backup, but appeared in 33 UEFA Champions League games for the club, including the 1999–2000 final against Valencia CF . He also missed the vast majority of the 1998–99 campaign due to a heart condition.

For 2002–03 Karanka returned to Athletic Bilbao, helping the Lions qualify for the UEFA Cup in his second year after a fifth place in the league. He switched to Major League Soccer and the Colorado Rapids in 2006.

Karanka only played once for Spain at senior level, on 26 April 1995 against Armenia for the UEFA Euro 1996 qualifiers. He also represented the nation in the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, playing in four matches in an eventual quarterfinal exit.

In June 2010 Karanka was appointed assistant manager at former side Real Madrid, by newly appointed manager José Mourinho. Three years later he left the club, following the arrival of Carlo Ancelotti who brought his own coaching staff.

On 13 November 2013 Karanka was appointed manager of Middlesbrough, replacing Tony Mowbray.




Past Match - Video Highlights - Trev





Trev's Trivia

Players to play for both teams

John Wark ITFC 1975–1984 1988–1990 and 1991–1997 Boro 1990–1991

Tony Mowbray ITFC 1995–2000 Boro 1982–1991

Mark Venus ITFC 1997–2003 Boro 2013 Manager

Kieron Dyer ITFC 1996–1999 2011 Loan Boro 2013

Media Watch - K L Blue


The Football League has confirmed that Blackburn Rovers, Leeds United and Nottingham Forest are the first clubs to have been handed transfer embargoes for failing to meet the requirements of Financial Fair Play (FFP).

The trio exceeded the maximum permitted loss of £8 million during the 2013/14 season.

In a statement, the Football League said that other sides could also face embargoes: “The Football League is currently in discussions with a number of other clubs over their FFP submissions and will confirm any further FFP embargoes, if any, in due course.

“It will also now consider submissions from the three clubs promoted to the Premier League and the three clubs relegated to League One at the end of the 2013/14 season.”

Clubs who have been promoted to the Premier League who transgressed the rules will face significant fines. QPR, who are reportedly set to be fined upwards of £30 million, have indicated that they will look to launch a legal challenge.

The embargo, which starts on January 1st, means the three clubs will be unable to register any new players on either a permanent or loan basis unless they have 24 or fewer ‘established’ players and only then within certain guidelines or on a one in, one out basis, again within parameters set by the Football League.

The embargo will be lifted at the end of the season if the clubs are able to show that they have hit this season’s FFP target of of £6 million.

Last week, Town announced losses of £7.2 million for the year to June 2014 with managing director Ian Milne having previously confirmed that the Blues would hit their FFP target: “We’ll be within FFP. We won’t face any embargoes."

Stat Time



Head To Head


Ipswich Town Wins...........28 (47.46%)
Middlesbrough Wins..........17 (28.81%)
Draws...........................14 (23.73%)


Ipswich Town Goals...........94 (Ave. 1.59 Per Match)
Middlesbrough Goals.........74 (Ave. 1.25 Per Match)


Head To Head at Ipswich

Ipswich Town Wins...........19 (63.33%)
Middlesbrough Wins...........5 (16.67%)
Draws...........................6 (20.00%)


Ipswich Town Goals..........59 (Ave. 1.97 Per Match)
Middlesbrough Goals.........28 (Ave. 0.93 Per Match)


The Predicted Teams


Ipswich Town


33 Bialkowski
04 Chambers
05 Smith
06 Berra
03 Mings
27 Bishop
08 Skuse
18 Tabb
11 Anderson
10 McGoldrick
09 Murphy



Middlesbrough


13 Konstantopoulos
24 Nsue Lopez
04 Ayala
06 Gibson
03 Friend
27 Adomah
08 Clayton
07 Leadbitter
20 Reach
21 Vossen
23 Bamford



Marko’s Caption Competition

Last weeks winner was Don, with the YMCA reference. Funny stuff



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Don 4pts
Frosty 3pts (The face said your caption perfectly!)
Quasar 2pts



TABLE

1. Frosty ......... 22
2. Herforder .... 21
3. Quasar ....... 20
4. Bluemike ....., 19
5. Blueblood....., 18
6. James.........., 16
7. Derick.........., 14
8. The Don ......, 12
9. Barmy Billy..., 8
10. Supershred. 6
10. Floors ....... 6
11. Andy M........, 5
12. Charnwood..., 4
12. Mr Punch......, 4
12. Jamma........., 4
13. Ashfordblue., 3
13. Morph........., 3
14. Number 9...., 2
14. Hallamblue,.., 2
14. LnP.............., 2
15. Nicscreamer.., 1



That's it until the week after FA Cup week in January. If you all attempt captions with the referee pictures from now until the week we resume, I can check back over the previews and score them accordingly. I will remember to check back as far as this Middlesbrough game. Make them good ones....... We all know refs are mammoth arseholes!

Merry Xmas & Happy New Year to all......., and by all, I mean all the referees too. Cheers.





Match referee - James Linington


A stupid looking ref photo as per Marko's request ;-)


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Final Thought - Frosty

Hmmmm, tricky little fixture this against the second placed team in the Championship, although the fact it is ‘Boro’ gives me some confidence as we have had their ‘number’ in recent years.

The have come off two great results, firstly, last weeks win against the competition front runners Derby and in the preceding week a 5-1 thumping of Millwall away. However the two matches prior to these fixtures saw 1-1 draws between Blackburn and Wigan respectively.

Looking at our title rivals this week. Derby have a tricky fixture against the Budgies, Bournemouth should stay top as they face Blackpool, surprise package Brentford head off to Wales to meet Cardiff and Watford have the misfortune of meeting Reading who have a new manager after manager Adkins was shown the door this week.

It was interesting to note the three transfer embargo’s handed down to Blackburn, Leeds and Nottingham Forest this week for exceeding 8 million pound losses. It just shows that although Mick runs the squad on an ‘oily rag’, just how difficult it is to stay under the FFP requirements as we were not too far off that figure either last season.

As this is the last fixture before Santa visits, on behalf of myself and the guys that make these previews happen each week, we would like to wish you a very Merry Christmas and have a great time with your family and friends.

Enjoy your pilgrimage to Portman Road …… COYB!



IPSWICH TOWN 2 MIDDLESBROUGH 0


This weeks educational piece .......... the differences between Steaua and Middlesbrough fans


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Post by larrylamb » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:12 pm

As long as Leadboots does not score... :evil: , I have to be honest and he is the only ex town player that i would say i truly detested .the bloke was a bloody oxygen thief while he was here...total crap..dire set plays , dire passing , and negative play for the most part...hope we stuff them just because i dislike him so much..!!!...but i feel a draw for this one..

Edit....not that keen on Chopra either..!!.. :mrgreen:

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:51 pm

I would like to say 3-1 to town but i think an entertaining 2-2 draw will be the end result.
Ref caption : " come on, i think we both know why one arm is bigger than the other, after all i am the man in the black"

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:10 pm

I would like to say 3-1 to town but i think an entertaining 2-2 draw will be the end result.
Ref caption : " come on, i think we both know why one arm is bigger than the other, after all i am the man in the black"

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:21 pm

STEAUA Caption: never try to apply makeup while riding on the team bus.

MIDDLEBROUGH Caption : Peter beardsly ( middle, back row) and ian dowie try to blend in on a recent scouting visit to boro. Unfortunaly dowies rather sh*te baseball cap disguise is not fooling one old dear who tells him to get lost northern style. Meanwhile mavis in the blue coat tells a rather embarresd red faced edna who is frantically flapping her coat " how many times have i told you to lay off those curry tikka pukka pies"
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Post by arana peligrosa » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:21 am

Voted for a home win as the venue will be the deciding factor. Won't be easy against this level of opposition but with enough belief and determination it should be enough for victory.

Ipswich 2 Middlesbrough 1

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:54 pm

I really don't see us losing this one. My head says a 1-1 draw, my heart says a 2-0 home win which could even take us to the top of the table if other results go our way. A favour from Norwich maybe?..... or more likely, maybe not.

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Post by Quasar » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:49 pm

Caption " carrying on from the song last week h'es doing the M from YMCA

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:50 pm

On paper this could well be the toughest home test of the season so far. We have one defeat in 17 while Boro have one defeat in 16, two teams in cracking form. They have conceded less than any other team in the Championship and have won away Six times which is the best in the division so this is a real test. Grant Leadbitter and Patrick Bamford are in good form and scoring for fun, be under no illusions that this COULD well be the defeat we have all been expecting for a while now.

Having said all that, like Charny I too dont see us losing this, in fact I believe we will get the points and go above them, like us they have to lose again soon too and home advantage could well be the difference on Saturday, their record down here is pretty awful so it's Three points to Town for me in what will hopefully be a cracker of a match and a great atmosphere.

Town 2-1 Boro.

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Post by James Scharmann » Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:06 pm

2-0 Boro I'm afraid

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Post by BLUEBLOOD » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:03 pm

Ref Caption: MARKO that smells like one of yours....... :blush: RED CARD

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Post by lucy » Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:49 pm

James really 2-0 to them. Come on have faith we beat Watford and Wolves at our place so i think we can give Middlesbrough a good game. A win would be great but i'd settle for another draw and see us stay in Playoffs for Xmas. I'm going for 1-1.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:12 am

Wasn't this the opposition that cost the club the League title back in '81 ? Some Yugoslav player with a name I can't recall right now ? Yes it's embarrassing I should really be aware of the player in question.

One or two other participants seem skeptical about the possibility of an away team victory, but realize we're up against one of the other promotion candidates and as the old adage goes, it is after all 11 men against 11, that on the day anything can occur. (As before), It does contain an added level of intrigue as once again we can entertain the possibility of first place, dependant on other results.

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Post by mini » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:06 am

saint jude wrote:Wasn't this the opposition that cost the club the League title back in '81 ? Some Yugoslav player with a name I can't recall right now ? Yes it's embarrassing I should really be aware of the player in question.

One or two other participants seem skeptical about the possibility of an away team victory, but realize we're up against one of the other promotion candidates and as the old adage goes, it is after all 11 men against 11, that on the day anything can occur. (As before), It does contain an added level of intrigue as once again we can entertain the possibility of first place, dependant on other results.
SJ

Remember that day, Villa lost to Arsenal, I believe we were winning 1-0 at Ayresome Park at half-time.

Everything was looking great and then in typical ITFC fashion we go and let it slip in the 2nd half and end up losing 2-1. Being involved in 3 competitons for so long that season with the size squad we had really killed us. The thing that really was annoying was we beat Villa 3 times that season (home and away in the league and also knocked them out of the FA Cup in the 3rd round.

Funny enough I was talking to some Villa fans at Wembley the other month and the 1980-81 season came up in our discussion. They admitted to me that in their opinion although Villa won the league we were the better side that season.

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Post by Charnwood » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:31 am

You're absolutely right SJ. It was that barmy season when we were chasing a treble, the League Title, the FA Cup and UEFA Cup and it was all going swimmingly well until the fixture pile up in April, prior to that we were unbeaten in the opening 15 matches of the season, and by mid March we'd only been beaten twice in 32 games and looked strong contenders to win the league. However in the 30 days between 28 March - 26 April it all went wrong, we played 7 league matches, an FA Cup Semi Final against Man City and two UEFA Cup Semi Finals against FC Cologne.

In our final 8 league matches we won only two, surprisingly against Man City who'd two weeks earlier knocked us out of the FA Cup and against Aston Villa who pipped us to the title at Villa Park. The other six we lost including the game you referred to away at Middlesbrough on the final day of the season (for all teams bar Ipswich) which we lost 1-2 after leading by a Paul Mariner goal at half time. The scorer of both Middlesbrough goals was Bozo Jankovic.

After the Boro game we still had one game left to play against Southampton at Portman Road which we played 11 days after the season for everyone else had ended which was slotted in between the two leg UEFA Cup final against AZ Alkmaar. Needless to say we lost against Southampton 2-3 but by then the title belonged to Villa who won by a 4 point margin with Town Runners Up and Arsenal 3rd.

1 Aston Villa 60 pts +32 GD
2 Ipswich Town 56 pts. + 34 GD
3 Arsenal 53 pts + 16 GD


Top scorer for the season was a 23-year-old John Wark, who scored a remarkable total of 36 goals in all competitions. 14 of these came in the UEFA Cup, including one in each leg of the final. Wark's goalscoring form saw him win the European Young Player of the Year and PFA Player of the Year awards. Frans Thijssen was named the FWA Player of the Year.

As Hallam would say, those were the days.

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Post by Charnwood » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:40 am

Sorry mini, I didn't mean to copy your post. I'd got distracted by a phone call mid way tho writing my post and had no idea of what you'd written. At least we're in the same ball park with nothing contradictory written.

In those days I was a season ticket holder and went to all the games referred to, and whilst it was a fabulous season those last few weeks in the league were so disappointing but you couldn't blame the players as they were absolutely exhausted and gave their all.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:33 am

CAPTION: Ouch the microphone is stuck in my cheek!! :wink:

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Post by herforder » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:20 pm

Another great preview - as tomorrow's match gets that much closer, and hearts beat a bit faster at the prospect of a potentially key encounter between two in-form teams.

Would like to see a pre-Christmas match full attacking flair and edge of the seat excitement - with Town ultimately enjoying a 7 goal thriller! The reality, however, is more likely to be a tight, hard-fought encounter of fine margins. It might take an individual piece of skill, or one mistake that decides the outcome - let's hope that if it comes down to a lucky bounce, or deflection, then it's in our favour. If we do lose, however, then must resist over-reacting :wink:

One thing for sure is that MM/TC will have prepared properly, and have us ready for the fight. Bring it on!

1-0 to Town. :)

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Post by ashfordblue » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:28 pm

:o I Had a dream last night that we beat Boro 3-1,

Ref Caption to Boro manager, so I gave Town 3 penalties, it happens as its Christmas, so get over it :)

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:04 pm

Frosty makes a very good point in his piece at the end of the preview about just how close we were to the 8 million figure that triggers a transfer embargo, we really would all do well in remembering that when bleating on about spending a bit in January, we are sailing close to the wind and just cant do it.

Aside from that COYB's !!!! Lets kick their Northern butts tomorrow.

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Post by larrylamb » Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:23 pm

Mike i think if i read it right , we would only have been stopped form paying out the 10,000 for Mings..!!..not much of a punishment they can still take up free,s , and even after that there are still "circumstances" under 25 players or whatever the number is ...whole bloody things a joke..More than these few clubs have spent a few mil here and there and surely we are not paying massively over the odd,s on wages so unless our running costs are seriously off kilter ???, there must be some serious "inventive book keeping" going on around the league.

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Post by Charnwood » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:24 pm

bluemike wrote:Frosty makes a very good point in his piece at the end of the preview about just how close we were to the 8 million figure that triggers a transfer embargo, we really would all do well in remembering that when bleating on about spending a bit in January, we are sailing close to the wind and just cant do it.

Aside from that COYB's !!!! Lets kick their Northern butts tomorrow.


I'm guessing all the figures will be massaged a bit to get to the ultimate amount, eg; the largest possible loss for tax efficiency v the lowest possible loss not to trigger a FFP penalty ..... eg: than £7m but less than £8m .. Magic.

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Post by herforder » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:48 pm

larrylamb wrote:Mike i think if i read it right , we would only have been stopped form paying out the 10,000 for Mings..!!..not much of a punishment they can still take up free,s , and even after that there are still "circumstances" under 25 players or whatever the number is ...whole bloody things a joke..More than these few clubs have spent a few mil here and there and surely we are not paying massively over the odd,s on wages so unless our running costs are seriously off kilter ???, there must be some serious "inventive book keeping" going on around the league.
I have always thought that 'Fair Play' was a gross abuse of terminology, designed to pander to public perceptions. The 'small print' effectively minimises any real penalties. The only effective sanction against over-spending clubs - points deduction - was never on the radar. Existing penalties are currently subject to legal challenge by QPR.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:49 pm

We will benefit next season when the Cresswell money will be showing on the accounts.

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Post by The Don » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:32 am

No reason to be anything other than positive at the minute. Things are looking rosy and for the first time in a long time, I'm not really fearing anyone. Having said that, as has been mentioned already the next few fixtures will be pivotal to demonstrating where we are. We seem to say that a lot every month, but we've got some of the big guys around us to play over the coming weeks. Get through to the middle of January still in and around the top few and I'm gonna start believing.

For this though I'm gonna plump for 1-1. I'd take a point from this although we are more than capable of getting more.

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Post by Mr.Punch » Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:04 am

i was a bit pessimistic before the bolton game, not so this one where i think we'll run out winners 2-0.

according to bbc website, stephen hunt may not be at portman road today -
"Ipswich midfielder Stephen Hunt has recovered from illness and will make the trip to the Riverside."

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Post by Frosty » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:33 am

super reporting by the BBC considering we are playing at PR unless I am gravely mistaken Mr P :D

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:36 am

Bloody well hope so or I am gonna be late.

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Post by James Scharmann » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:11 pm

Parr comes in for injured Mings with Hyam and Noel Hunt missing out through injury as well

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Post by marko69 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:39 pm

Hopefully the bstd in the black has a decent game with minimum controversial decisions. Watched a very dodgy stream of the Derby game....., what is this fkn sport coming too? The Derby penalty? No contact, facing away, corner of box, no goal scoring opportunity...... Penalty? Absolute fkn joke.

Get in about them today, ITFC.

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