
Time for a change
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- derick_ipsw
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Time for a change
MM will you please play Parr at right back and move chambers in to the centre and give Tommy a rest his confidence is shot. Play with two wingers namely Stewart and Anderson and play Teddy Bishop in central midfield. Drop Bru, Tabb and Bartoz and bring back Gerks. if you could do this Tuesday that would be great, Thank you. 

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Re: Time for a change
While Parr would do a good job at RB I honestly think a straight swap for Smith with Clarke coming in and Parr at Left Mid could be equally as effective, no way would I drop Bru either but it could happen.
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Re: Time for a change
Bru and skuse are both negative players, spoiling and getting tackles in, do we need both? Bishop centre mid with skuse can give us a little creativity with the two wide men.bluemike wrote:While Parr would do a good job at RB I honestly think a straight swap for Smith with Clarke coming in and Parr at Left Mid could be equally as effective, no way would I drop Bru either but it could happen.

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Re: Time for a change
The thing is they have both been playing well but I take your point, it is from the wide positions that we need some creativity, although to play Bishop in his favoured central role we would need to drop one of them and I know it won't be skuse.
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Re: Time for a change
How on earth is Bru a negative player?
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Re: Time for a change
I feel a bit sorry for MM in that he has been given next to no support from the owner in terms of financial resource to bring in players.
Given our position at the turn of the year, it was obvious that we would need to bolster our small squad if we were to maintain our place in the top 2. As this has been our best chance for years to get back to the Premier League, funds for decent loan players should have been made available. To me, the owner has let the club down in this respect. And I don't want to hear about FFP - clubs around us don't seem too bothered about it so why should we.
But I cannot have any sympathy for MM when he continues to play square pegs in round holes, particularly when the round pegs to fit the round holes are sitting on the bench.
Given our position at the turn of the year, it was obvious that we would need to bolster our small squad if we were to maintain our place in the top 2. As this has been our best chance for years to get back to the Premier League, funds for decent loan players should have been made available. To me, the owner has let the club down in this respect. And I don't want to hear about FFP - clubs around us don't seem too bothered about it so why should we.
But I cannot have any sympathy for MM when he continues to play square pegs in round holes, particularly when the round pegs to fit the round holes are sitting on the bench.
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Re: Time for a change
I think Rossi has summed up quite succinctly how many fans are feeling at the moment, and God forbid if we do miss out this season by a narrow margin, I think most of us will remember where it went wrong. 

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Re: Time for a change
We're linked with Leicester winger..
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Re: Time for a change
hallamblue wrote:We're linked with Leicester winger..
(See separate thread for discussion).
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Re: Time for a change
Spot on Rossi, I am 110% behind you.
My exact thoughts, which as I do not not contribute in words, a lot to the forum
i had been keeping to myself.
We have been in a comfortable position for some time, the best in many many years and
the fact no support was given as you mentioned, in my opinion is unacceptable to
the club and its fans based on how MM has developed us to date and how the fans
have remained loyal in supporting their club..
I know certain members always feel we may be a bit too expectant, or impatient but
on this subject it has to be a case of how high up the league must we be and
for how long to expect some kind of push/drive from our owner to speculate and
assist us in reaching this target.
The dizzy heights we have reached has made a great difference to not only the fans but also the
interest in TV media which in both cases increases revenue. No excuse for not seeing
that and using some of the additional revenue gained to greater effect.
I have no doubts that if MM has of been given the Nod we may have an improved
squad at this moment in time.
This could all have a adverse effect on what could have been, no one will ever know, but
had the club of been more positive, or even shown that they were trying, we would have been
able to feel more upbeat about it.
Edit, I meant to cover the point about overspending as of course with the debts we have
is something that ha to also be considered.. However I do not think that with the increased
revenue, the TV Media etc we would be talking a vast amount of money. There must have been
something in the Kitty..
My exact thoughts, which as I do not not contribute in words, a lot to the forum
i had been keeping to myself.
We have been in a comfortable position for some time, the best in many many years and
the fact no support was given as you mentioned, in my opinion is unacceptable to
the club and its fans based on how MM has developed us to date and how the fans
have remained loyal in supporting their club..
I know certain members always feel we may be a bit too expectant, or impatient but
on this subject it has to be a case of how high up the league must we be and
for how long to expect some kind of push/drive from our owner to speculate and
assist us in reaching this target.
The dizzy heights we have reached has made a great difference to not only the fans but also the
interest in TV media which in both cases increases revenue. No excuse for not seeing
that and using some of the additional revenue gained to greater effect.
I have no doubts that if MM has of been given the Nod we may have an improved
squad at this moment in time.
This could all have a adverse effect on what could have been, no one will ever know, but
had the club of been more positive, or even shown that they were trying, we would have been
able to feel more upbeat about it.
Edit, I meant to cover the point about overspending as of course with the debts we have
is something that ha to also be considered.. However I do not think that with the increased
revenue, the TV Media etc we would be talking a vast amount of money. There must have been
something in the Kitty..
rossi wrote:I feel a bit sorry for MM in that he has been given next to no support from the owner in terms of financial resource to bring in players.
Given our position at the turn of the year, it was obvious that we would need to bolster our small squad if we were to maintain our place in the top 2. As this has been our best chance for years to get back to the Premier League, funds for decent loan players should have been made available. To me, the owner has let the club down in this respect. And I don't want to hear about FFP - clubs around us don't seem too bothered about it so why should we.
But I cannot have any sympathy for MM when he continues to play square pegs in round holes, particularly when the round pegs to fit the round holes are sitting on the bench.
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Re: Time for a change
It's not just about having money in the kitty Earl, it's also about maximising the best opportunity we've had in years to get promotion and clear the slate.
Even without the latest "Sky Sports Deal" promotion to the Premier League is worth about £135m, and that's if we got relegated at the end of our first year. This is the reason why clubs like Leicester City take their chance and invest when they spot a good opportunity as they did last season. I still believe that had we thrown a few million at it January we could by now have been well clear at the top of the table.
Risky I know, but that's what the football business is all about and why it's only played by the very wealthiest of people worldwide.
Even without the latest "Sky Sports Deal" promotion to the Premier League is worth about £135m, and that's if we got relegated at the end of our first year. This is the reason why clubs like Leicester City take their chance and invest when they spot a good opportunity as they did last season. I still believe that had we thrown a few million at it January we could by now have been well clear at the top of the table.
Risky I know, but that's what the football business is all about and why it's only played by the very wealthiest of people worldwide.
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Re: Time for a change
The thing is Earl, that is one hell of a gamble given our financial situation, to roll the dice and fail would have far reaching consequences and the implications wouldnt bare thinking about. The thing is I genuinely don't believe we can be compared to most other clubs when it comes to FFP rulings, most of them have not been burdened with what we have and as such it is a very uneven playing field. The stigma and fall out of being Administration stays with you for years, I am far from being any kind of expert on it but I was employed by a company that went through it and it was hell on earth for the owners for many years. I really do doubt that we are able to throw any kind of money at it.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we missed a trick with the 8 million offer for McGoldrick, add to that the failure for anyone to want Paul Taylor and those two things alone deprive us of any spending that may have been afforded to MM. There is also the odd rumour around which I am sure most of us have heard in that Mick was in fact told there was some money in the coffers to spend and it was refused, take that as you will.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we missed a trick with the 8 million offer for McGoldrick, add to that the failure for anyone to want Paul Taylor and those two things alone deprive us of any spending that may have been afforded to MM. There is also the odd rumour around which I am sure most of us have heard in that Mick was in fact told there was some money in the coffers to spend and it was refused, take that as you will.
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Re: Time for a change
Hi guys,
Charnie.. To answer your point, I am totally on that side of the fence. and
Bluemike, I hear exactly what you are saying, but in this position I think 90% plus of fans
may have suggested we take the gamble. I do not have figures to hand so of course
my opinion is only based on what I believe is a fair consideration and that would be that
the investment needed would not really have been that great taking the
other factors into consideration.
If, and I obviously will keep the faith, we did make it without the aid of any finances
or additional resourses then MM will be the hero without a doubt and all this will be forgotten,
but I fear that if we do not it will have a profound effect on many.
We all know its opinions so please fire aware at any point thats the art of discussion
which can help others reaching theirs.
Cheers
Charnie.. To answer your point, I am totally on that side of the fence. and
Bluemike, I hear exactly what you are saying, but in this position I think 90% plus of fans
may have suggested we take the gamble. I do not have figures to hand so of course
my opinion is only based on what I believe is a fair consideration and that would be that
the investment needed would not really have been that great taking the
other factors into consideration.
If, and I obviously will keep the faith, we did make it without the aid of any finances
or additional resourses then MM will be the hero without a doubt and all this will be forgotten,
but I fear that if we do not it will have a profound effect on many.
We all know its opinions so please fire aware at any point thats the art of discussion
which can help others reaching theirs.
Cheers
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Re: Time for a change
It's a pity NI Blue no longer posts on here. He was au fait with the financial rules and regulations as well as the implications resulting from our going into Administration.
I sit on the side of the fence that says we should have taken a gamble and got some players in. We have never been this close for a long time and I just hope ME's reluctance doesn't come back to bite us in the bum.
I sit on the side of the fence that says we should have taken a gamble and got some players in. We have never been this close for a long time and I just hope ME's reluctance doesn't come back to bite us in the bum.
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Spot on BB. I believe 90% plus would agree with this..barmy billy wrote:It's a pity NI Blue no longer posts on here. He was au fait with the financial rules and regulations as well as the implications resulting from our going into Administration.
I sit on the side of the fence that says we should have taken a gamble and got some players in. We have never been this close for a long time and I just hope ME's reluctance doesn't come back to bite us in the bum.
I Hope like me that 90% plus will keep the faith...

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Having come this far EB, I think most true supporters - including those who have stuck with it through the dark days, and the 'joke' days! - will continue to stay with it. Despite all of the debate on here and elsewhere, some of which has been unduly negative or pessimistic, let's not forget where we are, and let's believe that we will remain in contention for at least a play-off place. There are undoubtedly many other managers and supporters who would swap places with us like a shot. And many Chairman wondering how Mick has achieved what he has on lemonade money!Earl Blue wrote:Spot on BB. I believe 90% plus would agree with this..barmy billy wrote:It's a pity NI Blue no longer posts on here. He was au fait with the financial rules and regulations as well as the implications resulting from our going into Administration.
I sit on the side of the fence that says we should have taken a gamble and got some players in. We have never been this close for a long time and I just hope ME's reluctance doesn't come back to bite us in the bum.
I Hope like me that 90% plus will keep the faith...

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Knowing what he's achieved on lemonade money I think I'd be tempted to "buy him a beer"herforder wrote:Having come this far EB, I think most true supporters - including those who have stuck with it through the dark days, and the 'joke' days! - will continue to stay with it. Despite all of the debate on here and elsewhere, some of which has been unduly negative or pessimistic, let's not forget where we are, and let's believe that we will remain in contention for at least a play-off place. There are undoubtedly many other managers and supporters who would swap places with us like a shot. And many Chairman wondering how Mick has achieved what he has on lemonade money!Earl Blue wrote:Spot on BB. I believe 90% plus would agree with this..barmy billy wrote:It's a pity NI Blue no longer posts on here. He was au fait with the financial rules and regulations as well as the implications resulting from our going into Administration.
I sit on the side of the fence that says we should have taken a gamble and got some players in. We have never been this close for a long time and I just hope ME's reluctance doesn't come back to bite us in the bum.
I Hope like me that 90% plus will keep the faith...

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Charnie..
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Knowing what he's achieved on lemonade money I think I'd be tempted to "buy him a beer"herforder wrote:Having come this far EB, I think most true supporters - including those who have stuck with it through the dark days, and the 'joke' days! - will continue to stay with it. Despite all of the debate on here and elsewhere, some of which has been unduly negative or pessimistic, let's not forget where we are, and let's believe that we will remain in contention for at least a play-off place. There are undoubtedly many other managers and supporters who would swap places with us like a shot. And many Chairman wondering how Mick has achieved what he has on lemonade money!Earl Blue wrote:Spot on BB. I believe 90% plus would agree with this..barmy billy wrote:It's a pity NI Blue no longer posts on here. He was au fait with the financial rules and regulations as well as the implications resulting from our going into Administration.
I sit on the side of the fence that says we should have taken a gamble and got some players in. We have never been this close for a long time and I just hope ME's reluctance doesn't come back to bite us in the bum.
I Hope like me that 90% plus will keep the faith...

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Make it a Herforder, guys! (Google it....all will become clear or, more accurately, beer!) 

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Gnats p*ss!herforder wrote:Make it a Herforder, guys! (Google it....all will become clear or, more accurately, beer!)
Adnams Broadside - a proper beer.

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Re: Time for a change
The Old Mill we had at Rotherham was to die for, it made the football quite acceptable LOL
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barmy billy wrote:Gnats p*ss!herforder wrote:Make it a Herforder, guys! (Google it....all will become clear or, more accurately, beer!)
Adnams Broadside - a proper beer.

