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Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:57 pm
by BLUEBLOOD
Reports coming from Chelsea on sky sports news reporting he has been sacked.
Confirmed now at 2pm he was sacked .
Mutual Consent....same thing .

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:36 pm
by Kerry Blue
It sounds like they have someone lined up 8)

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:43 pm
by number 9
Good! Now hopefully ManU will sack the Oompa Loompa and bring in the Special One! I can't stand LVG!

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:03 pm
by Tangfastic
number 9 wrote:Good! Now hopefully ManU will sack the Oompa Loompa and bring in the Special One! I can't stand LVG!
I'd love that. Mourinhos an arrogant, petulant, spoilt brat.... but I kind of like him and think Premiership would lose a great character as well as a box-office moaner.
Going to Man U would make it pantomime high season.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:04 pm
by Bluemike
Serves the tossers right for sacking a club Doctor who was only doing her job. The guy has turned into a pr*ck of the highest order.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:07 pm
by arana peligrosa
BLUEBLOOD wrote:Reports coming from Chelsea on sky sports news reporting he has been sacked.
Confirmed now at 2pm he was sacked .
Mutual Consent....same thing .
Departing (a job) under mutual consent and being fired by your employer is not the same thing

In any event, surprised to see to this. Believed Mourinho and the Russian owner were just about inseperable, but then the latter has hired and fired so many times since his takeover that it would appear no one name is immune.

No longer see (for the most part) what goes on in the EPL now, but got some input from the recent situation at Chelsea by way of other forums. Guess this always had the propensity to occur, but it caught one or two out all the same.

Got no issue with Mourinho himself, it's more his previous employers and their owner himself that is the problem. Say again would ideally like to see a relegation there but it's unlikely to occur no matter how much we wish it.

As for Mourinho, will probably return to Portugal now he's out of employment in the UK.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:54 am
by Charnwood
Disappointed to see him leave Chelsea where I think he was a good fit and a fans favourite, I also think he was good for The Premier League and will be a loss to English football.

Clearly he's been a victim of player power which is a massive problem in English football and will only get worse as players salaries increase to and above the ridiculously high amounts which make some of them unmanageable. This I believe is the main reason why MU employed LVG who is a strict disciplinarian just like his predecessor, boring as f*ck and nowhere near as entertaining and exciting as Jose Mourinho.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:12 am
by Ohiotractorboy
bluemike wrote:Serves the tossers right for sacking a club Doctor who was only doing her job. The guy has turned into a pr*ck of the highest order.

I didnt hear about this, what happened?

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:34 am
by arana peligrosa
Ohiotractorboy wrote:
bluemike wrote:Serves the tossers right for sacking a club Doctor who was only doing her job. The guy has turned into a pr*ck of the highest order.

I didnt hear about this, what happened?
Team medic (one Eva Carneiro) left the club in September after alleged discriminatory comment from Mourinho. Both parties are Portugese and language experts were called in but no charges came Mourinho's way. Some claim there was actual malice in what was said, the other side (The Football Association) denies it.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:58 am
by Bluemike
There was far more to it than just a comment and the word is already that she me may be returning to the club now the tosser has gone.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:28 am
by herforder
7 months is a long time in the bonkers world of soccer! Winning the PL in May, loved by the media and die-hard supporters, given a new contract in August - sacked in December! I think the back-story to the Special One's demise involves not just results and dressing room unrest, but his deteriorating relationship with a couple of Abramovich's closest advisers and board members. In the final analysis he was seen as the problem, not the solution - too many cards were stacked against him. Certainly they were not going to sack a whole bunch of players to save the manager. Perhaps, as sometimes happens when individuals assume cult status, they become victims of believing their own myths, become detached from reality and forget they are employees. Contrast the style of Sir AF, who accepted no sh*t from players, but whose man-management skills and judgements were outstanding, and brought repeated success over many years. Possibly a product of his background.

No doubt there will be many suitors for JM's services. Perhaps this experience will cause him to reflect and refocus, and get back to the basics of being a sound football manager; appreciating that his players and support staff are human beings who deserve to be treated fairly and with respect. Too much power inevitably corrupts.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:37 am
by derick_ipsw
Charnwood wrote:Disappointed to see him leave Chelsea where I think he was a good fit and a fans favourite, I also think he was good for The Premier League and will be a loss to English football.

Clearly he's been a victim of player power which is a massive problem in English football and will only get worse as players salaries increase to and above the ridiculously high amounts which make some of them unmanageable. This I believe is the main reason why MU employed LVG who is a strict disciplinarian just like his predecessor, boring as f*ck and nowhere near as entertaining and exciting as Jose Mourinho.
Totally agree. And who do you replace the best with?

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:50 pm
by Charnwood
bluemike wrote:There was far more to it than just a comment and the word is already that she me may be returning to the club now the tosser has gone.
To be honest Mike football club doctors are "two a penny", whereas the tosser you refer to is probably one of the top five Managers of the modern era and a great loss to Chelsea FC. Sir Alex who's opinion I really do rate puts him at No 1 and for sure he will be very difficult to replace.

Yes I agree he was wrong with the way he publicly humiliated Eva Carneiro, and I expect she will be compensated accordingly for his wrong doing. I suspect some of the players revolt will go back to this incident, after all would you prefer a rub down from their past or present doctor. If rumours are correct I think one or two of the players may have had more than a rub down which for all we know may have been one of the triggers that led to Jose losing the plot with her.

I think some of the Chelsea players should be ashamed of themselves especially the likes of Hazard, Costa & Fabregas etc who have all made his life difficult recently, I'm sure there are others too. Basically the root of the problem is money and the assumed status it gives some of these ragamuffins who become unmanageable.

Jose's departure is Chelsea's loss and in time will be another Clubs gain.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:30 pm
by arana peligrosa
Charnwood wrote:
bluemike wrote:There was far more to it than just a comment and the word is already that she me may be returning to the club now the tosser has gone.
To be honest Mike football club doctors are "two a penny", whereas the tosser you refer to is probably one of the top five Managers of the modern era and a great loss to Chelsea FC. Sir Alex who's opinion I really do rate puts him at No 1 and for sure he will be very difficult to replace.

Yes I agree he was wrong with the way he publicly humiliated Eva Carneiro, and I expect she will be compensated accordingly for his wrong doing. I suspect some of the players revolt will go back to this incident, after all would you prefer a rub down from their past or present doctor. If rumours are correct I think one or two of the players may have had more than a rub down which for all we know may have been one of the triggers that led to Jose losing the plot with her.

I think some of the Chelsea players should be ashamed of themselves especially the likes of Hazard, Costa & Fabregas etc who have all made his life difficult recently, I'm sure there are others too. Basically the root of the problem is money and the assumed status it gives some of these ragamuffins who become unmanageable.

Jose's departure is Chelsea's loss and in time will be another Clubs gain.

While Mourinho was (and remains) a good manager the title he bestowed on himself (The Special One ?) would seem a little overly pretentious to some.

Point being, there are many names before him i.e. Paisley, Jock Stein and Clough who accomplished just as much - and without the aid of heavy investment also - and they don't always get the recognition they deserve.

If this rumor or whatever it is (derogatory comments towards club personnel) are true, then it will tarnish Mourinho's resume a little, but other than that he still remains one of the most sought after names in soccer, and whoever brings him in next (and once this little furore has subsided) will surely continue to bring success and achievement to whoever hires him in the future.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:43 pm
by ashfordblue
bluemike wrote:Serves the tossers right for sacking a club Doctor who was only doing her job. The guy has turned into a pr*ck of the highest order.
Absolutely right Mike, he got far to cocky and has paid the price, Dutch Gus to be temp manager

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:39 pm
by herforder
It's safe to speculate that whoever takes over from JM in the longer term will need large wing mirrors to watch their back!

When you're successful and winning trophies management, and keeping everyone happy, is relatively easy. When the reverse happens, the 'feel good' factor quickly disappears, players' petty niggles - previously contained - grow more prominent, pressures from the board and supporters increase, and managers become prone to erratic behaviour and decision making in an attempt to reverse the rot. It's pretty much standard at every level of the game.

But, whatever the reasons behind the obvious discord, it is results that ultimately seal a manager's fate. For Chelsea to be hovering just above the relegation zone, and with a manager whose best efforts could not overcome the challenges he faced, then the owner acted exactly as we might have expected - no doubt in the best interests of the club.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:01 pm
by Bluemike
Charnwood wrote:
bluemike wrote:There was far more to it than just a comment and the word is already that she me may be returning to the club now the tosser has gone.
To be honest Mike football club doctors are "two a penny", whereas the tosser you refer to is probably one of the top five Managers of the modern era and a great loss to Chelsea FC. Sir Alex who's opinion I really do rate puts him at No 1 and for sure he will be very difficult to replace.

Yes I agree he was wrong with the way he publicly humiliated Eva Carneiro, and I expect she will be compensated accordingly for his wrong doing. I suspect some of the players revolt will go back to this incident, after all would you prefer a rub down from their past or present doctor. If rumours are correct I think one or two of the players may have had more than a rub down which for all we know may have been one of the triggers that led to Jose losing the plot with her.

I think some of the Chelsea players should be ashamed of themselves especially the likes of Hazard, Costa & Fabregas etc who have all made his life difficult recently, I'm sure there are others too. Basically the root of the problem is money and the assumed status it gives some of these ragamuffins who become unmanageable.

Jose's departure is Chelsea's loss and in time will be another Clubs gain.
They might be Two a Penny Andy but but you can't go around treating people like he did and expect to get away with it. Aside from all the Eva Carneiro nonsense I believe the guy has turned into some kind of nut job, he used to be funny and charasmatic, every time he is interviewed he blames every man and his dog for each passing defeat, he believes the whole world is conspiring against him, very rarely does he give his opponents any credit, he can't even talk properly now for crying out loud, he comes across like some kind of geriatric alcoholic such is his garbled muttering.

A women lost her job for doing her job, he has just lost his for failing miserably to do his. Good riddance.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:06 am
by goldandblack
bluemike wrote:Serves the tossers right for sacking a club Doctor who was only doing her job. The guy has turned into a pr*ck of the highest order.
I Could not have put it better Blue. the day he sacked the doc he signed his own demise, and he knows it.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:30 am
by Charnwood
All said I can't help liking the bloke and would choose him any day over the likes of LVG & Manuel Pellegrini.

Like him or hate him I think you'll find he'll bounce back a better and wiser manager.......

...however I accept it may only be a matter of time before he implodes again because a leopard rarely changes his spots.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:57 am
by Bluemike
Charnwood wrote:All said I can't help liking the bloke and would choose him any day over the likes of LVG & Manuel Pellegrini.

Like him or hate him I think you'll find he'll bounce back a better and wiser manager.......

...however I accept it may only be a matter of time before he implodes again because a leopard rarely changes his spots.
Can't argue with any of that. Aside from all the nonsense, isn't it fantastic to see the big spending w*****s struggling LOL.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:14 am
by Charnwood
BBC Radio 2 presenter Jeremy Vine has been a Chelsea season ticket holder for 20 years. Here he pours out his feelings in a letter to sacked Blues manager Jose Mourinho. I think it says it all quite well.

Dear Jose,

This is a very hard letter to write. You have never met me, but every week I sit with my daughter directly above your position in the Stamford Bridge dug-out.
Her name is Martha and she is now eleven. The first time I took her to Chelsea she was four, and you were the manager. She thought it was very funny that visiting Blackburn Rovers fans sang, "You're getting sacked in the morning," and then you actually were.
That was your first bad patch with us. I told her not to worry - you would find another job and Chelsea would find another manager. In fact we found enough to fill a bus: Grant, Scolari, Wilkins, Hiddink, Ancelotti, Villas-Boas, Di Matteo, Benitez. As my daughter grew older, half the new words she learnt were the names of Chelsea managers.
But it was never the same without you. Abramovich, your old boss, got so impatient with the coaches who followed he actually fired Di Matteo for winning the Champions League. It was as if we all knew the Special One would return.

You came back when Martha was nine. She was as thrilled as her dad. I told her what she needed to know: "Mourinho is off his rocker," I said, "but so are all the great artists." I mentioned Salvador Dali and Van Morrison to explain why sometimes the tortured soul makes the best art. I told Martha you knew how to behave - that the madness would work for Chelsea.

And work it did. Your intensity is incredible and I love the sense of danger you bring to every waking moment. You always reminded me of the most popular boy at school: people would do anything to be his friend, and your players would do anything to impress you.

For a brief moment in time, the midfield were as tight as Led Zeppelin. Although Diego Costa turned out to be a description of a mood rather than the name of a player, for a few wonderful months he was irresistible. Terry's legs actually moved, Ivanovic scored goals out of defence, and I even remember tweeting that "Hazard is now the greatest player in the world," to a torrent of abuse from Messi fans. The point is, you did that; Jose, you made us winners again. You are a stunningly successful manager and you took us back to the top. Martha and I loved you for it despite the madness.

And then something utterly unhinged happened. I had to explain to my young daughter why you had exploded at the popular team doctor (one of the most prominent women in the Premier League) and I could not give her a decent reason. You didn't just demote her and cause her to leave, you humiliated her. You should not have done it and I believe the players were also at a loss as they tried to explain it to their young daughters.

She was popular; they sided with her against you; you lost the dressing room. You caused the doctor to leave and the players sacked you. Do you understand that, Jose? You were fired by your own players. When you realise that is what has happened, I believe you will find the thought unbearable.
We will now get a sane, sober-suited manager, and it will not be the same. I believe it was a terrible mistake for the club not to view this season as a write-off and start to rebuild a new squad around you. Somebody once said to me, "The problem is that Chelsea doesn't have a Beckham," in other words a single figure who symbolises the team. But we did. It was you. As Lynette tells her ex-husband Tom in a moving scene in Desperate Housewives, it was always you.

As a desperate fan, I know there will be no Third Coming. You parked the bus and burnt your boats. You gave Chelsea more trophies than we dreamt of and then we woke into a nightmare: placed sixteenth with our manager blaming Leicester's ball-boys. So take some time off now, Jose. See your family and get your priorities straight. And if one day you regret what happened, rest assured that there's a father in west London who got to spend precious afternoons with his young daughter because she wanted to be taken to Chelsea and watch your magic and madness unfold on the green in front of her.

Yours sincerely

Jeremy Vine

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:20 am
by Bluemike
As much as I don't like Jeremy Vine that is a super piece and sums it up perfectly, and that is the very reason I am so anti Mourinho these last few months, he humiliated a fellow professional in front of Millions and it isn't on.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:49 pm
by herforder
Loose the arrogance, gain some humanity and humility - think about those qualities held in spades by someone who was once your boss and mentor. Come back less angry and infinitely wiser.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:45 pm
by patthegimp
To Mourinho it has always about Mourinho. Protecting the players by taking the opprobium- b....cks. He wanted everything to be about him. A generally unpleasant person. Usually 2 seasons were the maximum with any club before the crap started. Career happily built on a siege mentality for his team and himself which can only last a short time.

At least that is my perspective. No loss to football but football will be a loss to him. Unsurprisingly he has advised that he is not too tired and is happy to be considered for other posts. Goalpost?

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:49 pm
by Charnwood
Although Mourinho has much to blame himself for, the day players have been allowed to dictate a Managers sacking is a bad day for English football and other casualties will follow.

Hopefully the likes of Fabregas, Hazard & Costa will now be forced out of Stamford Bridge by the fans.

Player power has gone too far.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:54 pm
by herforder
Abramovich's has always bowed to so-called player power; how many managers has he employed and subsequently disposed of? In the past it was the likes of Drogba, Lampard and Terry who held sway. I would have imagined that in appointing JM for a second time, RA had a vision of building a long-term, stable, dynasty similar that at MU under Fergusson. I doubt if it was exclusively down to JM's attitude or personality, or to player-power - a toxic mix was allowed to brew. Once the tipping point was reached there as only ever likely to be one outcome. (Interesting to see JM watching the Brighton v M'boro game yesterday. Bet he was impressed by 'Boro - an altogether better outfit than Detby!) :wink:

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:27 pm
by Charnwood
I've always expected him at sometime in his career to arrive at Man United, it could be the teams current performances under LVG bring this about sooner rather than later.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:02 pm
by herforder
Would guess that he's biding his time; but understand he intends to remain in UK with his family, and is not interested in taking a sabatical. Succeeding LVG is something I would think he'd jump at - and then to stick it to RA by winning trophies! I wonder how much influence Sir AF still retains in influencing matters.

Re: Jose Mourinho Sacked

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:44 pm
by phily bon bon
Have to agree with Bluemike one hundred percent.