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No good harping on and repeating what has already been said over and over again. Marcus Evans needs a reality check and McCarthy has to stop fobbing the fans off. How times have changed. A club that you felt part of as a supporter. Now it is a stadium full of quiet fans resigned to just going with the flow. We need more quality in the team and should of been on the ball when drafting in players. If Wigan can bring in an Everton reserve striker who scores for fun then why can not Ipswich find these hungry players. Our club has no spark anymore. The fans have every right to be upset at what is going on. Forget what you see on the training ground McCarthy !! You should of been pushing Evans in to releasing funds to bring in hungry players who have the skill, appetite and energy to win games. Another 0-0 draw v Charlton can now end the local newspapers speculation that we are entering a final promotion push. Sheff Wed wanted a promotion play off place. The same as Wigan wanted promotion from League One and bought in good players to do just that. There are no more excuses Evans because something has to change for the sake of this club and the standard of football it produces.

jeremy rusher wrote:No good harping on and repeating what has already been said over and over again. Marcus Evans needs a reality check and McCarthy has to stop fobbing the fans off. How times have changed. A club that you felt part of as a supporter. Now it is a stadium full of quiet fans resigned to just going with the flow. We need more quality in the team and should of been on the ball when drafting in players. If Wigan can bring in an Everton reserve striker who scores for fun then why can not Ipswich find these hungry players. Our club has no spark anymore. The fans have every right to be upset at what is going on. Forget what you see on the training ground McCarthy !! You should of been pushing Evans in to releasing funds to bring in hungry players who have the skill, appetite and energy to win games. Another 0-0 draw v Charlton can now end the local newspapers speculation that we are entering a final promotion push. Sheff Wed wanted a promotion play off place. The same as Wigan wanted promotion from League One and bought in good players to do just that. There are no more excuses Evans because something has to change for the sake of this club and the standard of football it produces.

Again cant argue very correct. But be prepared JR for some flack I'm afraid.

jeremy rusher wrote:No good harping on and repeating what has already been said over and over again. Marcus Evans needs a reality check and McCarthy has to stop fobbing the fans off. How times have changed. A club that you felt part of as a supporter. Now it is a stadium full of quiet fans resigned to just going with the flow. We need more quality in the team and should of been on the ball when drafting in players. If Wigan can bring in an Everton reserve striker who scores for fun then why can not Ipswich find these hungry players. Our club has no spark anymore. The fans have every right to be upset at what is going on. Forget what you see on the training ground McCarthy !! You should of been pushing Evans in to releasing funds to bring in hungry players who have the skill, appetite and energy to win games. Another 0-0 draw v Charlton can now end the local newspapers speculation that we are entering a final promotion push. Sheff Wed wanted a promotion play off place. The same as Wigan wanted promotion from League One and bought in good players to do just that. There are no more excuses Evans because something has to change for the sake of this club and the standard of football it produces.

It's no good spouting common sense it will get you nowhere

The author mentions no need to keep on and reiterate all the clubs deficiencies, then proceeds to write up an exhaustive article on the subject ?

Fair enough let's indulge. Maybe the record's broken beyond repair, but once again to those that want say immediate change you're in for a disappointment. I believe we got some capable players, but some aren't being utilized correctly and as for the potential for further additions i.e, players of caliber or something better than what we already possess, names are going to be wary of coming to a team where more often than not we find victory hard to come by or a manager that's borderline belligerent with his tactics and mindset. Salary aside, the first thing any player seeks at a new club is success and can we offer that at the moment ? We're an average club side at best with no real ambition, so good luck in trying to find some decent additions. Add to that an owner who appears almost apathetic towards progress.

Until the dead wood can be cleared out we're going to struggle to find any decent replacement and it's a shame but that's pretty much the deal here. I'd do anything to go back to ten years or more under Royle and see 30,000 in attendance at Portman Road but fact of the matter is we're in a completely new era and with it a manager, who is a thousand miles away from what was witnessed under the aforementioned Royle. As it's a time for reiteration there's no harm in saying once again the last time I felt genuine hope and expectation with the team was around 2004, and despite the play-off achievement last year we haven't come anywhere close to it.

We can't ideally sell to a new owner as say again any potential bids would be scared off by the debt the club carries and as for the manager, we're going to be with him for at least another season, like it or not. Maybe by some chance next year there will be a big improvement on this wasted season and we can once again challenge and start to believe once more, but it has to be said, McCarthy has left some deep cuts this season and amid all the poor scores, frustrations and missed opportunity : it's going to be a tall order to get back to something approaching our previous stature.

saint jude wrote:The author mentions no need to keep on and reiterate all the clubs deficiencies, then proceeds to write up an exhaustive article on the subject ?

Fair enough let's indulge. Maybe the record's broken beyond repair, but once again to those that want say immediate change you're in for a disappointment. I believe we got some capable players, but some aren't being utilized correctly and as for the potential for further additions i.e, players of caliber or something better than what we already possess, names are going to be wary of coming to a team where more often than not we find victory hard to come by or a manager that's borderline belligerent with his tactics and mindset. Salary aside, the first thing any player seeks at a new club is success and can we offer that at the moment ? We're an average club side at best with no real ambition, so good luck in trying to find some decent additions. Add to that an owner who appears almost apathetic towards progress.

Until the dead wood can be cleared out we're going to struggle to find any decent replacement and it's a shame but that's pretty much the deal here. I'd do anything to go back to ten years or more under Royle and see 30,000 in attendance at Portman Road but fact of the matter is we're in a completely new era and with it a manager, who is a thousand miles away from what was witnessed under the aforementioned Royle. As it's a time for reiteration there's no harm in saying once again the last time I felt genuine hope and expectation with the team was around 2004, and despite the play-off achievement last year we haven't come anywhere close to it.

We can't ideally sell to a new owner as say again any potential bids would be scared off by the debt the club carries and as for the manager, we're going to be with him for at least another season, like it or not. Maybe by some chance next year there will be a big improvement on this wasted season and we can once again challenge and start to believe once more, but it has to be said, McCarthy has left some deep cuts this season and amid all the poor scores, frustrations and missed opportunity : it's going to be a tall order to get back to something approaching our previous stature.

The only time we had 30,000 under Royal was in the play off against West ham!!

Jeremy,......, The Judy has referred to your opening thread article as "exhaustive". He is the master of "exhaustive posts". Not saying his judgement on other posts being exhaustive is accurate........, but, IMO, you'll need to try and be 100% more exhaustive to be anywhere close to Judys league of exhaustiveness.

Does the section 6 area of singing supporters still exist? Or have they faded off due to the Shyte football?

Section 6 and the SBR lower were very noisey during the game Tues, marko.......but as the game wore on and the compete dross served up yet again, the crowd were gradually battered into quietness and general chat amongst themseleves in the stand.

WTF has happened at this Club??

hallamblue wrote:Section 6 and the SBR lower were very noisey during the game Tues, marko.......but as the game wore on and the compete dross served up yet again, the crowd were gradually battered into quietness and general chat amongst themseleves in the stand.

WTF has happened at this Club??

Yea, those of us in Churchman's - sorry, Sir Alf R. - kept being woken up by the ref's annoyingly shrill whistle! (If hope is the final frontier, then we may be heading into the wilderness at max warp factor, unless someone gets a firm hand on something big and shining!)

Well this should make you positive, yeah?
http://www.sudburymercury.co.uk/sport/i ... _1_4486233

Get a haircut, Milne you scruffy lookin' bstd.

I wonder if ME is concerned about the Panama Papers? Maybe that's why he's so 'low-profile'?

hallamblue wrote:Section 6 and the SBR lower were very noisey during the game Tues, marko.......but as the game wore on and the compete dross served up yet again, the crowd were gradually battered into quietness and general chat amongst themseleves in the stand.

WTF has happened at this Club??

Liz, if that is "very noisy" I rest my case with regard to us fans cus for me it was marginally better than recent games but no way noisy. It probably sounds a bit louder when you are standing in it but the other 75% of the stadium probably doesnt think so. I am moving back to the North stand next season for the atmosphere but by christ I hope that it will be better than than irrespective of how we are playing.

I think the fans feel as flat as ditchwater water with season long dross served up. There's bugger all to get excited about. The players need to start playing with a bit of attack minded ethos then the crowd has something to cheer. If the NS is viewed as quiet then christ knows what the rest of the ground is like!

ps see yawl next season !!

If Milne wants the fans to invest their hard earner money into the club, they have to see an investment in the team, rather than freebies and loans!

I'd rather the team took 2-3 seasons to progress with decent buys, than 5-8 freebies and loanees every season.
I know getting freebies is ok, if the player is worth signing, but lets not get out bid for the sake of 200k, lets actually compete for player's, yeah if their demands are excessive, then we move on. but lets not lose the next Stewart or Johnson for being tight.

And yes I do believe we shouldn't throw money about.

had a chap who sat near me tues night,moaning out loud there was no noise at portman rd.bloke in front of him said you start a chant and he will follow,if not stop moaning about the lack of chants.

jaykay wrote:had a chap who sat near me tues night,moaning out loud there was no noise at portman rd.bloke in front of him said you start a chant and he will follow,if not stop moaning about the lack of chants.

Quite right too, anyone has the capability of singing.

Here we go again Milne trying to pacify the Season Ticket Holders, same old same old sh*t, Why the Fook cant Marcus make a public appearance and talk to the faithful, I would love every S T holder and the fans come out in protest at the lack of ambition being shown from the owner, one game with no fans at all coming through the turn styles should make ME and his puppet Milne sit up and take serious notice, but I doubt it very much, my comment to ME is, take long hard look at the Leicester City owner, and learn how to treat the fans, but nope he wont do that, he's got no interest in the progressive ambitions of our Ipswich Town FC, so the sooner he sells up to someone who will lead us forward the better.

number 9 wrote:I wonder if ME is concerned about the Panama Papers? Maybe that's why he's so 'low-profile'?

Maybe we are all guilty of funding Evans overseas luxury lifestyle ?

You've never been positive...

J4ck22 wrote:You've never been positive...

Bluemike wrote:anyone has the capability of singing.

And Mike has never watched the X Factor.

The above score line sums it up. No noise from Evans after a sad end to this season. Not a squeak from Ian Milne other than we hope you carry on spending your money . Nothing much McCarthy can say to inspire any town fan right now. Don,t think there is any manager that can work their magic at this club with Marcus Evans as the clubs owner.

J4ck22 wrote:You've never been positive...

Been positive for 40 odd years but there will be less suffering next season for sure.

jeremy rusher wrote:

J4ck22 wrote:You've never been positive...

Been positive for 40 odd years but there will be less suffering next season for sure.

Be fair J4, there's not much to be positive about is there.

barmy billy wrote:

jeremy rusher wrote:

J4ck22 wrote:You've never been positive...

Been positive for 40 odd years but there will be less suffering next season for sure.

Be fair J4, there's not much to be positive about is there.

It's fair enough since we are in a terrible run of form at the moment. However I do still think some have overreacted about this season as a whole.

J4ck22 wrote:It's fair enough since we are in a terrible run of form at the moment. However I do still think some have overreacted about this season as a whole.

How come?? The fact is that this season we will have scored less goals, conceded more goals, and accumulated less points than last season.
And that after most fans freely admitted that the squad available for this season was much stronger than last.
Performances have steadily got worse and the football on offer is horrendous.
Steady progress made over the last few seasons has not just stopped, it is actually in regression.
So - many fans are now voicing their concerns.
Now, please tell me, how the hell is that an overreaction?

....part of me feels sorry for MM . He appears to have had little financial support of note - given the millions Magic and Keane were given. If any manager deserved backing it's Mick. He IS the best manager we could have hog to save us from certain relegation. BUT I am sooooooo frustrated by his tactics/style of play, and this has been the case whether we have won or lost. It is soul destroying and mind numbingly boring to watch.

Today MM made a big mistake in not hauling Hyam off. The final outcome was always going to happen wasn't it! The ref was a complete an utter c*ck in allowing Brentford players free licence to reap their own justice and he was utterly gutless in dealing with their blatant provocation of Hyam. But MM could have solved that problem by subbing him. But his stubby once again has bit us in the arse. Another feature of the man I detest.

The season IS now over and if I was Mick I'd be giving some of our kids a chance to see if they are up to it for next season. What has he got to lose?

If however he is Villa bound I quote like the suggestion of Gus Poyet / Tarrico as possible replacements. We do have some good players in this squad......Mick just doesn't utilise them.

Crossroads now reached, in my opinion. Issues requiring action:

Higher level - ME's continued commitment to the club. Assuming no sale imminent, then what is his plan to take us forward; does he acknowledge that investment to improve the squad's overall quality is necessary; will that discussion take place with MM in the near future, with a view to planning now for next season. Ian Milne's 'party line' statements are increasingly unconvincing and insulting to loyal fan base. A clear, unequivocal, statement of intent is required from ME.

MM - needs to be honest regarding limitations under which he's required to operate. Is he prepared to continue operating as is. Will he be seeking modest increase in funding to improve squad quality. Loans/freebies policy of limited utility; investment in 'less but better' more likely to benefit the squad. Will there be a thorough review of current playing staff.

Playing staff: tactics, team set up notwithstanding, are you honestly giving it the max. Is life in Suffolk nice and cosy for you; don't worry if we lose, we'll be out walking the dogs on Sunday morning. Wife and kids love it here; single lads get down the Waterfront, or hit the clubs, where it's all good. If only we didn't have to get up for training, or meet these obnoxious supporters. A bit harsh? Probably, but for all the finger pointing, it's the players who need to take responsibility for poor performances.

Enough - but we all understand that doing nowt is not an option. Based on recent performances, and if nothing changes, we could be back where we started when MM came in.

rossi wrote:

J4ck22 wrote:It's fair enough since we are in a terrible run of form at the moment. However I do still think some have overreacted about this season as a whole.

How come?? The fact is that this season we will have scored less goals, conceded more goals, and accumulated less points than last season.
And that after most fans freely admitted that the squad available for this season was much stronger than last.
Performances have steadily got worse and the football on offer is horrendous.
Steady progress made over the last few seasons has not just stopped, it is actually in regression.
So - many fans are now voicing their concerns.
Now, please tell me, how the hell is that an overreaction?

Because it's one season where progress hasn't been made, big deal. I know at Ipswich we like instant success all the time, but it's hardly the end of the world if we come 8th or 9th is it now? Yeah it hasn't quite worked this year, oh well we'll just try again next season. We're still at the right end of the table yet your reaction alone would have me thinking we were 19th.

That's why it's an overreaction. Maybe I'm just too easy going to be an Ipswich fan and need to have a reason to be angry and waving my arms in the air all day demanding success and entertainment every day. That sounds much more fun.

No overraction at all. The fans have been messed about and starved of success ever si ce ME bought the club. After a glimmer of hope last season this one has been dire, with a standard of football that is inexcusable from a manager of MM's supposed pedigreem

The fans deserve more and it will not happen under this manager.

J4ck22 wrote:

rossi wrote:

J4ck22 wrote:It's fair enough since we are in a terrible run of form at the moment. However I do still think some have overreacted about this season as a whole.

How come?? The fact is that this season we will have scored less goals, conceded more goals, and accumulated less points than last season.
And that after most fans freely admitted that the squad available for this season was much stronger than last.
Performances have steadily got worse and the football on offer is horrendous.
Steady progress made over the last few seasons has not just stopped, it is actually in regression.
So - many fans are now voicing their concerns.
Now, please tell me, how the hell is that an overreaction?

Because it's one season where progress hasn't been made, big deal. I know at Ipswich we like instant success all the time, but it's hardly the end of the world if we come 8th or 9th is it now? Yeah it hasn't quite worked this year, oh well we'll just try again next season. We're still at the right end of the table yet your reaction alone would have me thinking we were 19th.

That's why it's an overreaction. Maybe I'm just too easy going to be an Ipswich fan and need to have a reason to be angry and waving my arms in the air all day demanding success and entertainment every day. That sounds much more fun.

actually, our form in 2016 would indeed put us around 19th position, so I do not get your argument there. It's not just a case that progress hasn't been made as you put it, the fact is that this season we have regressed.
You're perfectly entitled to your opinion that fans are overreacting of course, but I think you're in a minority.