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Just been browsing EADT forum, and the Luke Chambers comments of he doesn't want Ipswich Town FC to join the Championships big spenders, made me smile, let me see now, I wonder why, probably quality players coming in would oust a few of the current squads back four, that seems to be far too comfortable in the knowledge that they are first choice selection week in week out, and it would mean they have to fight for their places, rather than just walk in to the team each week, now I'm hoping that Mick will bring in some much needed quality from the transfer market, to shake up the back 4 to the midfield, I think its about bloody time we had new blood in the squad to freshen things up, I don't like to see complacency, I like to see that if one player gets dropped or injured, there is another quality player to step in his shoes, and make players fight hard to regain their place, and for the current squad to know that they cant take their foot off the gas, come on ME lets see some of the possible 6 figure signings you was on about in your hide away programme report, to come in during this summer break, and Mick make sure you sign Feeney & Pringle. and try for Fraser again to come back on loan from Bournemouth,

Or he could mean with the likes of Emmanuel & Kenlock already showing glimpses of being really good players we don't need to throw silly money at it. I think he will be only too aware that nobody's place in the starting line up is guaranteed, Of course we need 3 or 4 good quality signings but they are often available for nothing (Pitman, Murphy, Berra, Skuse etc etc) Be patient and I am sure MM will deliver again. I actually wonder if the injuries to Ryan Fraser could work in our favour in as much as Bournemouth may well want him out on loan again to get back to maximum fitness, although I must confess the only loans I really like are the whole season ones with no recall, I doubt we could get that again where Fraser is concerned.

When read the article this morning I thought two things.

Firstly, the words of someone who thinks he is a much better player than he actually is or secondly, the words of someone who realises he is not that good and sees his place in the first team under threat.

I am still unsure what I think, apart from it would have been best not say anything at all.

Gobber Newhouse comes to mind. Anyone remember him on the telly?

I actually think Chambo is as honest and genuine as the day is long, he is no fool and knows his limitations. The funny thing for me is that for Two whole seasons he has been played out of position and yet he never moans or mopes around, and despite what people think he has improved as a RB and yet he gets loads of criticism and abuse. On the other hand Sears has been played out of position for half a season and has really let his head drop at times, particularly over the last 6 weeks and yet he gets nothing but support and messages of "Awww poor old Freddie" , If we are consistent we should be saying Sears is crap as a wideman and should not be in the team.

Sears in crap as a wideman and should not be in the team (in that role). Better?

For what it's worth it's what I think anyway. But we have been a little short of genuine widemen this season.

Well no because I was only using it as an example of how fans have favourites, for me Sears & Chambo should both always be in the team, yes I would prefer them as a striker & CB but hey ho.

Good honest comments lads, Mike your right with players being played out of position, that's the one point that has grated on most fans nerves, but it seems with Mick that that RB position has been the Achilles heel of not getting a proper RB signed, to me we don't seem to have had a natural RB since maybe David Wright or Fabian, its always been a make do position, yet the LB slot has always been filled with a natural player, so I do hope there is someone brought in to fill that spot in the close season, I have always maintained we have the squad of players to make a very serious challenge for a top spot in the championship, its just getting the rub of the green, and hoping that players don't get injured or only minor ones to heal up quickly, and that we have some serious contenders coming through the Bryan Klug academy, to step in to keep the strength and momentum going through the long hard season.

And as you have said Mike, it could work in our favour if Bournemouth let Ryan Fraser come back on a season long loan, to get fit and game time, and I know for a fact that Eddie Howe will be letting some of his current squad go out on loans or transfers, as he looks to build on his first season in the Premiership with new signings, and as it gets tougher and tougher each season with big clubs coming down who are looking to go straight back up, Newcastle & Villa wont want to be hanging around, but I think the scum will struggle back in the championship, so all in all lets hope for a more lucrative 2016/17 season, and that RB slot gets filled with a Natural player not make do.

MM on record saying that LC will not play at RB next season; thereby throwing up obvious question- who will?

Options might include: Foley (assuming offered/accepts a permanent contract); Emmanuel (young, still learning, but showing increasing promise); AN Other (bespoke RB brought in)?

Also raises question of who might partner Chambo, if he returns to the centre? Have a feeling that Berra - and possibly Smith - might not be around next season. If that were so, then Digby and Clarke could be in the frame, unless fresh reinforcements arrive. No doubt, however, that as a unit our defence has not been as effective this term; something MM always prided himself on, and probably contributed to where we ultimately finished in the Cship. (By no means the single reason - as has been discussed on here throughout)!

As for Sears, I've never seen him give less than the max - wherever he's been asked to play by MM, on a 'needs must' basis. Not the player's fault if his effectiveness has been compromised as a result - same in respect of LC). With the right team set up, and some midfield creativity to deliver quality through balls, I believe FS could play a similar role to Vardy at Leicester. He has the pace and technical ability.

Would be fantastic to get Ryan Frazer back. But width and pace will hopefully be on MM's priority list, however that one pans out!

herforder wrote:MM on record saying that LC will not play at RB next season; thereby throwing up obvious question- who will?

Options might include: Foley (assuming offered/accepts a permanent contract); Emmanuel (young, still learning, but showing increasing promise); AN Other (bespoke RB brought in)?

Also raises question of who might partner Chambo, if he returns to the centre? Have a feeling that Berra - and possibly Smith - might not be around next season. If that were so, then Digby and Clarke could be in the frame, unless fresh reinforcements arrive. No doubt, however, that as a unit our defence has not been as effective this term; something MM always prided himself on, and probably contributed to where we ultimately finished in the Cship. (By no means the single reason - as has been discussed on here throughout)!

As for Sears, I've never seen him give less than the max - wherever he's been asked to play by MM, on a 'needs must' basis. Not the player's fault if his effectiveness has been compromised as a result - same in respect of LC). With the right team set up, and some midfield creativity to deliver quality through balls, I believe FS could play a similar role to Vardy at Leicester. He has the pace and technical ability.

Would be fantastic to get Ryan Frazer back. But width and pace will hopefully be on MM's priority list, however that one pans out!

I haven't seen that, is that right ? Very interesting if so.

bluemike wrote:

herforder wrote:MM on record saying that LC will not play at RB next season; thereby throwing up obvious question- who will?

Options might include: Foley (assuming offered/accepts a permanent contract); Emmanuel (young, still learning, but showing increasing promise); AN Other (bespoke RB brought in)?

Also raises question of who might partner Chambo, if he returns to the centre? Have a feeling that Berra - and possibly Smith - might not be around next season. If that were so, then Digby and Clarke could be in the frame, unless fresh reinforcements arrive. No doubt, however, that as a unit our defence has not been as effective this term; something MM always prided himself on, and probably contributed to where we ultimately finished in the Cship. (By no means the single reason - as has been discussed on here throughout)!

As for Sears, I've never seen him give less than the max - wherever he's been asked to play by MM, on a 'needs must' basis. Not the player's fault if his effectiveness has been compromised as a result - same in respect of LC). With the right team set up, and some midfield creativity to deliver quality through balls, I believe FS could play a similar role to Vardy at Leicester. He has the pace and technical ability.

Would be fantastic to get Ryan Frazer back. But width and pace will hopefully be on MM's priority list, however that one pans out!

I haven't seen that, is that right ? Very interesting if so.

In an a recent Radio Suffolk pre-match interview.

If Murphy and Mcgoldrick are back, which is most likely, they have to step it up and play to their ability. Both were poor this season injury or otherwise. Sears should be used to this league now and I expect a little bit more from him next year. The defensive line up is a little bit more of a conundrum. Who is good enough to command control in the middle of the defence. I'm thinking we need a solid central defender which should go a long way to stop the leaks which have been present all year, someone in the mould of Huth. That's not everyone but it's a start hopefully the other pieces will fall into place

I wonder if Chabers will drop back in at CB and one of youngers will be RB , some may well be playing out of position again. Am thinking the young Barnsley player, or Clarke ?

Paul Digby certainly did himself no harm at Middlesbrough, against a team that has just gone up he had a very solid game and looked more than capable of playing at CB in the Championship. Should berra or someone else move on I still think we need to sign another CB and a RB, Josh Emmanuel is clearly going to come into the picture at RB while Smith, Chambers, Digby and AN Other would be ok for the CB positions, I am not sure on Clarke to be honest, at times he has not been in favour at Pompey so the jury still out on that one for me. The LB slot looks in good hands all of a sudden what with Knudsen improving big time over the last quarter of the season and young Kenlock impressing everyone with his couple of appearances in the starting line up.

Wouldn't discount Foley being offered a perm contract, and filling the RB berth; with JE continuing to both cover and play a number of games to gain experience etc. Whether that option improves the overall quality of our defence is arguable; leaving us a competent and competitive Cship side, but not necessarily one to push onwards and upwards. That applies across the squad; if MM is given some loot by ME, then getting that extra bit of quality through the door - who fit well into the squad - could tip the balance. Sounds obvious - but not easy to achieve!

Yes Foley is definitely an option and is a solid performer who can also do a great job in Midfield as we saw against Forest at PR, as you say it all comes down to what the transfer kitty is going to be.

ah Foley....I knew there was another player, just couldn't think who it was. Yes, now he could definitely be the "new"RB with Emmanuel as back up and CB between Chambo Smith Digby and Potentially Clarke. Personally I think Berra is on his way and I'm not too upset about that tbh.

Well if the truth is that chambers has been playing out of position for 3 years, then it should have been dealt with by now. We've had options. Parr being one... Foyle as well. Or try and buy a proper RB!

I think that Micks just been so obsessed with shorning -horning certain players in the team who he trusts, even if they are playing out of position. Completely understand the building of a team and team spirit with certain players, but it fell short last season, and well-intentioned huff and puff by trusted lieutenants wasn't enough.

Could be that Micks loyalty has been used up and he's going to have split up that defence and that Chambers moves inside.

Micks taken some flak and I think it's a good thing. He knows the stakes have been lifted higher and he's going to think harder about the squad rather than stick with a core bunch of 7 or so triers and a pretty dour, negative style of play.

He's also used the excuse of injuries being a factor and bigged up McGoldrick and Bishop. Fair enough.... so interesting to see if these two factor in the team early next season.

well that defence hasn't been very good this season has it. too many soft goals and unforced errors. But if he is going to shake it up I hope to God he plays players in their normal positions.

I'm sick of players form being affected because they are trying to adapt to a new position. Sears this season being a primary example. If he dies this to any of the kids he'll ruin their confidence.


......and as for McGoldrick I will be amazed if he is fit for the start of the season or completes a whole season without a lengthy spell out through yet another injury. He's "buzzing" at the moment cos his soul target is to make those Euros......Let's see what he does next season. Big talent he might be but reliable/ fit he rarely is.

tangfastic wrote:Well if the truth is that chambers has been playing out of position for 3 years, then it should have been dealt with by now. We've had options. Parr being one... Foyle as well. Or try and buy a proper RB!

I think that Micks just been so obsessed with shorning -horning certain players in the team who he trusts, even if they are playing out of position. Completely understand the building of a team and team spirit with certain players, but it fell short last season, and well-intentioned huff and puff by trusted lieutenants wasn't enough.

Could be that Micks loyalty has been used up and he's going to have split up that defence and that Chambers moves inside.

Micks taken some flak and I think it's a good thing. He knows the stakes have been lifted higher and he's going to think harder about the squad rather than stick with a core bunch of 7 or so triers and a pretty dour, negative style of play.

He's also used the excuse of injuries being a factor and bigged up McGoldrick and Bishop. Fair enough.... so interesting to see if these two factor in the team early next season.

I've never been 'shorning-horned'. Sounds as if it might make your eyes water.

barmy billy wrote:

tangfastic wrote:Well if the truth is that chambers has been playing out of position for 3 years, then it should have been dealt with by now. We've had options. Parr being one... Foyle as well. Or try and buy a proper RB!

I think that Micks just been so obsessed with shorning -horning certain players in the team who he trusts, even if they are playing out of position. Completely understand the building of a team and team spirit with certain players, but it fell short last season, and well-intentioned huff and puff by trusted lieutenants wasn't enough.

Could be that Micks loyalty has been used up and he's going to have split up that defence and that Chambers moves inside.

Micks taken some flak and I think it's a good thing. He knows the stakes have been lifted higher and he's going to think harder about the squad rather than stick with a core bunch of 7 or so triers and a pretty dour, negative style of play.

He's also used the excuse of injuries being a factor and bigged up McGoldrick and Bishop. Fair enough.... so interesting to see if these two factor in the team early next season.

I've never been 'shorning-horned'. Sounds as if it might make your eyes water.

Ha ha... you don't know what 'shorning-horning' is? You have led a sheltered life.

Its a homo- erotic affliction commonly observed in middle-aged, stubborn Northern men ... or a bad re-edit

tangfastic wrote:

barmy billy wrote:

tangfastic wrote:Well if the truth is that chambers has been playing out of position for 3 years, then it should have been dealt with by now. We've had options. Parr being one... Foyle as well. Or try and buy a proper RB!

I think that Micks just been so obsessed with shorning -horning certain players in the team who he trusts, even if they are playing out of position. Completely understand the building of a team and team spirit with certain players, but it fell short last season, and well-intentioned huff and puff by trusted lieutenants wasn't enough.

Could be that Micks loyalty has been used up and he's going to have split up that defence and that Chambers moves inside.

Micks taken some flak and I think it's a good thing. He knows the stakes have been lifted higher and he's going to think harder about the squad rather than stick with a core bunch of 7 or so triers and a pretty dour, negative style of play.

He's also used the excuse of injuries being a factor and bigged up McGoldrick and Bishop. Fair enough.... so interesting to see if these two factor in the team early next season.

I've never been 'shorning-horned'. Sounds as if it might make your eyes water.

Ha ha... you don't know what 'shorning-horning' is? You have led a sheltered life.

Its a homo- erotic affliction commonly observed in middle-aged, stubborn Northern men ... or a bad re-edit

Now my eyes really are watering. I think I'll go for the latter If that's ok.

One small point, playing Parr at RB would have been playing another playing out of position as he is by trade a LB, that said when he played there a few games he did ok.

tangfastic wrote:

barmy billy wrote:

tangfastic wrote:Well if the truth is that chambers has been playing out of position for 3 years, then it should have been dealt with by now. We've had options. Parr being one... Foyle as well. Or try and buy a proper RB!

I think that Micks just been so obsessed with shorning -horning certain players in the team who he trusts, even if they are playing out of position. Completely understand the building of a team and team spirit with certain players, but it fell short last season, and well-intentioned huff and puff by trusted lieutenants wasn't enough.

Could be that Micks loyalty has been used up and he's going to have split up that defence and that Chambers moves inside.

Micks taken some flak and I think it's a good thing. He knows the stakes have been lifted higher and he's going to think harder about the squad rather than stick with a core bunch of 7 or so triers and a pretty dour, negative style of play.

He's also used the excuse of injuries being a factor and bigged up McGoldrick and Bishop. Fair enough.... so interesting to see if these two factor in the team early next season.

I've never been 'shorning-horned'. Sounds as if it might make your eyes water.

Ha ha... you don't know what 'shorning-horning' is? You have led a sheltered life.

Its a homo- erotic affliction commonly observed in middle-aged, stubborn Northern men ... or a bad re-edit

suspect you could make up an offensive song about it such is the nature of football crowds!