Alleged olympic ticket scam and ME

[hallamblue]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ering.html



Given his level of wealth you have to ask the question , why isn't he giving MM some meaningful funds.This does NOT suggest we should be spending silly money but for the love of God MM is unable to strengthen this Team with piddling funds of 300k and 700k for players. No wonder we have players playing out of position.

The problem is EVANS!

[Bluemike]

If this news has any foundation I think we have bigger problems than ME investing in the team. What shame it brings on our club, there are more and more stories like this surfacing all the while and whilst accepting it may indeed be nonsense you have to wonder given his track record.

[hallamblue]

http://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news ... -dismissed


followed by the inevitable denial claims

[marko69]

No opinion at all on any of this.......

But Mr Mallon was acting as the collection point......., for 1000 tickets?? My God. I hope he had some decent tunes on his iPod.

[arana peligrosa]

Unable to read the link provided but doubtless another sorry-as* news publication looking for a story, damn well realize they'll print anything if it garners enough believers.

On the issue of Marcus Evans reluctance to spend however, feel the need to only reiterate once more that the investment issue is not the end all and be all of a team's direction. Some will read it's an imperative that enough money is spent on a squad so that they're competitive, but as before enough club sides have made their way out of this league or indeed achieved other honors by simply having a strong enough mentality, being consistent, and possessing enough drive and determination in order to succeed.

Yes Evans could ideally spend more, Yes there are certain inadequacies within the squad, but the most immediate problem could be argued that the players we possess right now lose focus too often at critical times, are played out of position too regular, and the manager doesn't know what his best starting XI resembles.

One last mention while it's still relevant or fresh in the memory, when Leicester City had a championship win just recent, don't recall asinine amounts of money being spend on the squad, they simply possessed a team that were workmanlike, remained consistent enough over the course of the season, had players in key departments that didn't lose focus, and a team coach in Ranieri if correct that believed throughout it all that something could be achieved.

Is any of that prevalent within this club right now ? Bullshit, we got a half-assed manager with no real sense of direction and too many playing personnel that aren't motivated enough or want to succeed. Ideally require someone to come in and shake things up but unfortunately that won't be occurring any time soon.

[marko69]

not the end all and be all

It's "be all and end all".

Yes Evans could ideally spend more, Yes there are certain inadequacies within the squad, but the most immediate problem could be argued that the players we possess right now lose focus too often at critical times, are played out of position too regular, and the manager doesn't know what his best starting XI resembles.

A paragraph for maybe after ten or so games, Saint. Premature jizz from the mouth at the moment.

Ideally require someone to come in and shake things up but unfortunately that won't be occurring any time soon.

If after ten or so games, and things are not looking too great, who Saint?

[herforder]

Allow due process to occur - then try and get a ticket for the Court case!

[ashfordblue]

Ermm no smoke without fire is the saying, if ME is brought forward to face these corruption charges, it wouldn't surprise me in the least, with a solid person in Ricardo Barboza De Souza of the Rio police leading the investigation, who's had success in the past with such scandals, and as its an ME group company that's associated with this possible ticket scandal, it could be true, and as Blue Mike says, if proved true it could tarnish the name of our great club, as they say mud sticks regardless of guilty or innocence, and also if proven true its carries a 4 to 7 year jail sentence for the person who owns the company, and It could prove a possible life saver for us, as he ME would surely have to sell Ipswich Town FC to another hopefully sound buyer, and there's every possibility it could be a buyer who wants to invest in our wonderful club, and not someone who's worth £793 million and only spends tiddly amounts of £500'000 and £800'000 on players, so I hope and pray this is the breakthrough we need to possibly get rid of ME, and bring in a new owner with fresh ideas who wants success for Ipswich Town FC, not just to be used as a tax loss as it is now, lets see some real investment to the manager, so Mick or whoever is in charge can get the job done and us into the Premiership, there are a shed load of buyers out there who would snatch ME's arm off to buy a club like ours.

[hallamblue]

I think im cheesed off with Evans now. Frankly he should now sell the club to someone that wants to financially back the manager to a meaningful level. Town are going nowhere based on yesterdays game, the pre season friendly at PR, and the fluke win vs Barnsley.

We can't defend. Our defenders are slow, one dimensional, cant stop opponents crossing the ball into our box. Cant get forward in support of the attack.
Our midfield has no leader, is slow, and lacks creativity.
We cant score goals. The strikers cant hit a barn door between them, cant win headers, fail time and again to take clinical shots when theyre on.

We have some acadmey players coming through . Great. But they cant cope with 40 odd games in a season. Are physically lightweight, and will make mistakes. Under Bobby Robson, we might have seen ONE youngster come through at a time and be corralled by senior players throughout the games.
Saturday, we go two down and we had no game changer on the bench. The squad is paper thing. Sick note has lasted just 2 games this season and wont be seen until 2017, and McCarthy hasnt oit a f**king pot to p*ss in for transfers let alone loan deals.


Yip, two games in and frankly I see the writing on the wall.

[herforder]

I think im cheesed off with Evans now. Frankly he should now sell the club to someone that wants to financially back the manager to a meaningful level. Town are going nowhere based on yesterdays game, the pre season friendly at PR, and the fluke win vs Barnsley.

We can't defend. Our defenders are slow, one dimensional, cant stop opponents crossing the ball into our box. Cant get forward in support of the attack.
Our midfield has no leader, is slow, and lacks creativity.
We cant score goals. The strikers cant hit a barn door between them, cant win headers, fail time and again to take clinical shots when theyre on.

We have some acadmey players coming through . Great. But they cant cope with 40 odd games in a season. Are physically lightweight, and will make mistakes. Under Bobby Robson, we might have seen ONE youngster come through at a time and be corralled by senior players throughout the games.
Saturday, we go two down and we had no game changer on the bench. The squad is paper thing. Sick note has lasted just 2 games this season and wont be seen until 2017, and McCarthy hasnt oit a f**king pot to p*ss in for transfers let alone loan deals.


Yip, two games in and frankly I see the writing on the wall.

Well, that's a comprehensive list of the positives - can't wait for the negs!! (On a more serious note, I think we all understand how you feel. It's the frustration at knowing there's no immediate silver bullet available, or realstic hope to cling on to).

[hallamblue]

I think im cheesed off with Evans now. Frankly he should now sell the club to someone that wants to financially back the manager to a meaningful level. Town are going nowhere based on yesterdays game, the pre season friendly at PR, and the fluke win vs Barnsley.

We can't defend. Our defenders are slow, one dimensional, cant stop opponents crossing the ball into our box. Cant get forward in support of the attack.
Our midfield has no leader, is slow, and lacks creativity.
We cant score goals. The strikers cant hit a barn door between them, cant win headers, fail time and again to take clinical shots when theyre on.

We have some acadmey players coming through . Great. But they cant cope with 40 odd games in a season. Are physically lightweight, and will make mistakes. Under Bobby Robson, we might have seen ONE youngster come through at a time and be corralled by senior players throughout the games.
Saturday, we go two down and we had no game changer on the bench. The squad is paper thing. Sick note has lasted just 2 games this season and wont be seen until 2017, and McCarthy hasnt oit a f**king pot to p*ss in for transfers let alone loan deals.


Yip, two games in and frankly I see the writing on the wall.

Well, that's a comprehensive list of the positives - can't wait for the negs!! (On a more serious note, I think we all understand how you feel. It's the frustration at knowing there's no immediate silver bullet available, or realstic hope to cling on to).

Lol, was a bit of moan wasn't it! I just wish i could put my finger on whats wrong at this Club now. I dont think things are right, but not sure where the problem lies.

[herforder]

Agreed - like a vague feeling of nausea, which can't be put down to last night's bevvies!

Based on nothing more than a gut feeling (not beer again!), I think that a number of 'below the radar' issues are going to come to a head in the not too distant future. Unsure what the outcome will be for the Club, but obviously hope it's positive.

(Should add that ME's alleged control of local press and media reporting, access to the club by TWTD etc, means that we're fed a very sanitised and non-controversial diet of info from the club and it's employees. Not healthy, imho.)

[barmy billy]

Not that long ago I questioned Evans ambition and true motive for owning ITFC. One reply said all the suggestions of tax evasion were pure crap. I still question his motives: let's not forget how he started accumulating his vast fortune.

I have no idea (neither do I really care) whether he has a case to answer or not about this issue in Rio, but I do care about ITFC and the stain he has brought on the club merely by the fact that he is being investigated. I just wish he would sell the club and clear off along with the manager.

[ashfordblue]

Not that long ago I questioned Evans ambition and true motive for owning ITFC. One reply said all the suggestions of tax evasion were pure crap. I still question his motives: let's not forget how he started accumulating his vast fortune.

I have no idea (neither do I really care) whether he has a case to answer or not about this issue in Rio, but I do care about ITFC and the stain he has brought on the club merely by the fact that he is being investigated. I just wish he would sell the club and clear off along with the manager.

I'm right with you there BB, he has no ambition what so ever to take this club up a level, I myself am getting mighty pissed off with the inept performances, the lack of true funding, and we have a manager who seems to bow to your p*ss poor financial support, for Gods sake Marcus, either start funding the team or just sell up to another buyer, and go and support your Chelsea, the quicker we see the back of you the better, just stick to what you know best flogging corporate arrangements tickets, and get a new buyer who wants to see IPSWICH at the top.

[ashfordblue]

I think im cheesed off with Evans now. Frankly he should now sell the club to someone that wants to financially back the manager to a meaningful level. Town are going nowhere based on yesterdays game, the pre season friendly at PR, and the fluke win vs Barnsley.

We can't defend. Our defenders are slow, one dimensional, cant stop opponents crossing the ball into our box. Cant get forward in support of the attack.
Our midfield has no leader, is slow, and lacks creativity.
We cant score goals. The strikers cant hit a barn door between them, cant win headers, fail time and again to take clinical shots when theyre on.

We have some acadmey players coming through . Great. But they cant cope with 40 odd games in a season. Are physically lightweight, and will make mistakes. Under Bobby Robson, we might have seen ONE youngster come through at a time and be corralled by senior players throughout the games.
Saturday, we go two down and we had no game changer on the bench. The squad is paper thing. Sick note has lasted just 2 games this season and wont be seen until 2017, and McCarthy hasnt oit a f**king pot to p*ss in for transfers let alone loan deals.


Yip, two games in and frankly I see the writing on the wall.

Do you know Liz when I see someone like yourself writing up these reports, I know then that things aint going too smoothly, and I like yourself think its time for a major change in the ownership of our club, we have just been treading water for 15 seasons now, and sometime soon the bubble will burst, and we will go down like a lead balloon, in someway I hope these accusations of corruption by the ME Group of companies are true, and we see ME sell the club to someone who will invest in our club and take us up to the premiership.

[arana peligrosa]

Someone will have a good understanding of how much the club is in debt, doubtless been mentioned before but unable to recall all the facts and figures. Point being, if it's as significant as believed then (as before) any potential new owner won't want to undertake interest in the running of the club. Secondly, and as believe mentioned in a previous response, not overly interested in Marcus Evans other enterprises, the most relevant factor for some is right here in his direct involvement with Ipswich Town as a football club.

I read on a rival page that McCarthy won't be fired, the only way out is by resignation : and essentially that's what you have to believe. Evans isn't ruthless enough to do the right thing and make the necessary alterations and for the immediate future we're stuck with a manager (and owner) who you feel a great many no longer recognize.

The pre-season scores would indicate we're a team that's not equipped to fulfil potential expectations and taking into consideration a great many things - that don't require further elaboration - we're a team that possesses too many deficiencies in critical areas to really expect anything other than another season of missed opportunity and unable to register enough points throughout the duration, to realistically maintain a promotion challenge.

The only thing left to wonder, is at the end of it all, will McCarthy still be in position here. (In effect there could be a wasted nine months ahead, in that we could have appointed someone with fresh ideas and enough motivation during this recent close season, but remaining 'hopeful' something may be achieved at the end of it all)

[Charnwood]

Simply having an owner linked to controversy and possible wrong doing will have an impact on it's employees who will be wondering how it may affect their futures and in particular his ability to pay their wages. Just imagine if his bank accounts and assets get frozen pending the outcome of the investigation. Imagine if it does go to court and he gets found guilty, how will that affect our football club.

Regardless of the outcome we're in for an unsettled period that will adversely affect the players and management.

Definitely a distraction we could do without so soon into the new season.

[Bluemike]

Jesus christ what a bloody positive bunch you are. Two games in and total meltdown and all after what 45 minutes when we were crap ? Ok I get the Marcus evans thing, I am not happy with bad publicity but what the hell ever happened to innocent until proven guilty ? Maybe, just maybe he is not guilty !

As for the apparent state of the club, yes we have a small squad, I suspect this is why MM has said we aren't done in the transfer market, yes we had no game changer on Saturday, unfortunately we had Sicknote and Pitman both injured in the few days before the game, Hyam injured too, what are we supposed to do ? Chuck on Dozzell in a game like that ? That would have been silly. I struggle to cope with fellow Town fans, I have to be honest I can do without most of them, we may not be a premier team and they sure as hell aren't premier fans. This place isn't as bad as some but look elsewhere and they are a disgrace with some of the bile aimed at the club, players, manager and owner.

The funny thing is that if we had played the second half like we did the first on Saturday none of this would be going on, that is how inconsistent it is, knee jerk beyond belief. God forbid we do ok in the next couple of games, it will all be fine in the Town camp un til the next loss. Two games in and some are saying Webster isn't good enough !!! Back in July it was good old Mick signed a right good one there !!! I mean FFS get real and stop being silly, like it or not new players, particularly young ones take time to settle in, lets not forget this kid is playing in a back line that is hardly rock solid at times is he. He was at fault for two goals, as I said at the time, hardly the only one responsible, Sears was f**king useless again and down the middle !!! Murphy was crap, while the Midfield folded after the break. If it contiues on a regular basis then ok we have a big problem but its half a f**king game !!! We may not have been great against barnsley but guess what, WE WON THE BLOODY THING, and scored Four goals ! This is going to be a long season judging by the attitude over the first 2 weeks.

[herforder]

We need some enterprising investigative journalist to take a deep dive into ME's business empire, and it's impact on his ownership of our club, and it's potential future. Up to now, all there's been is comparatively bland, non-informative, detail largely controlled by ME's own PR people. There's business and legal nitty gritty detail that needs to be exposed and understood - all of course within the rules of the game - so we can form views based on hard facts. Come on EA Daily Times, take up the challenge and don't be afraid of the consequences!

[Charnwood]

Jesus christ what a bloody positive bunch you are. Two games in and total meltdown and all after what 45 minutes when we were crap ? Ok I get the Marcus evans thing, I am not happy with bad publicity but what the hell ever happened to innocent until proven guilty ? Maybe, just maybe he is not guilty !

As for the apparent state of the club, yes we have a small squad, I suspect this is why MM has said we aren't done in the transfer market, yes we had no game changer on Saturday, unfortunately we had Sicknote and Pitman both injured in the few days before the game, Hyam injured too, what are we supposed to do ? Chuck on Dozzell in a game like that ? That would have been silly. I struggle to cope with fellow Town fans, I have to be honest I can do without most of them, we may not be a premier team and they sure as hell aren't premier fans. This place isn't as bad as some but look elsewhere and they are a disgrace with some of the bile aimed at the club, players, manager and owner.

The funny thing is that if we had played the second half like we did the first on Saturday none of this would be going on, that is how inconsistent it is, knee jerk beyond belief. God forbid we do ok in the next couple of games, it will all be fine in the Town camp un til the next loss. Two games in and some are saying Webster isn't good enough !!! Back in July it was good old Mick signed a right good one there !!! I mean FFS get real and stop being silly, like it or not new players, particularly young ones take time to settle in, lets not forget this kid is playing in a back line that is hardly rock solid at times is he. He was at fault for two goals, as I said at the time, hardly the only one responsible, Sears was f**king useless again and down the middle !!! Murphy was crap, while the Midfield folded after the break. If it contiues on a regular basis then ok we have a big problem but its half a f**king game !!! We may not have been great against barnsley but guess what, WE WON THE BLOODY THING, and scored Four goals ! This is going to be a long season judging by the attitude over the first 2 weeks.

Mike, I think you're on the wrong thread mate. This has nothing to do with Saturday's performance in the second half at Brentford, this is about the alleged Olympic ticket scam and Marcus Evans possible involvement and it's potential impact on our football club.

Like it or not there will be some unwelcome publicity, and some distractions we could do without. This is most definitely a reasonable topic to have a discussion about given the seriousness of the allegations which could see our owner receive a prison sentence if found guilty. Saturday's second half performance is irrelevant under this heading and two lost points will pale into insignificance if these allegations have any foundation.

Calm down Mike, the season is only just started and there's a long way to go and potentially a few bumps along the way.

[barmy billy]

Simply having an owner linked to controversy and possible wrong doing will have an impact on it's employees who will be wondering how it may affect their futures and in particular his ability to pay their wages. Just imagine if his bank accounts and assets get frozen pending the outcome of the investigation. Imagine if it does go to court and he gets found guilty, how will that affect our football club.

Regardless of the outcome we're in for an unsettled period that will adversely affect the players and management.

Definitely a distraction we could do without so soon into the new season.

Quite agree, especially when it comes to trying to attract new players.

[Bluemike]

Jesus christ what a bloody positive bunch you are. Two games in and total meltdown and all after what 45 minutes when we were crap ? Ok I get the Marcus evans thing, I am not happy with bad publicity but what the hell ever happened to innocent until proven guilty ? Maybe, just maybe he is not guilty !

As for the apparent state of the club, yes we have a small squad, I suspect this is why MM has said we aren't done in the transfer market, yes we had no game changer on Saturday, unfortunately we had Sicknote and Pitman both injured in the few days before the game, Hyam injured too, what are we supposed to do ? Chuck on Dozzell in a game like that ? That would have been silly. I struggle to cope with fellow Town fans, I have to be honest I can do without most of them, we may not be a premier team and they sure as hell aren't premier fans. This place isn't as bad as some but look elsewhere and they are a disgrace with some of the bile aimed at the club, players, manager and owner.

The funny thing is that if we had played the second half like we did the first on Saturday none of this would be going on, that is how inconsistent it is, knee jerk beyond belief. God forbid we do ok in the next couple of games, it will all be fine in the Town camp un til the next loss. Two games in and some are saying Webster isn't good enough !!! Back in July it was good old Mick signed a right good one there !!! I mean FFS get real and stop being silly, like it or not new players, particularly young ones take time to settle in, lets not forget this kid is playing in a back line that is hardly rock solid at times is he. He was at fault for two goals, as I said at the time, hardly the only one responsible, Sears was f**king useless again and down the middle !!! Murphy was crap, while the Midfield folded after the break. If it contiues on a regular basis then ok we have a big problem but its half a f**king game !!! We may not have been great against barnsley but guess what, WE WON THE BLOODY THING, and scored Four goals ! This is going to be a long season judging by the attitude over the first 2 weeks.

Mike, I think you're on the wrong thread mate. This has nothing to do with Saturday's performance in the second half at Brentford, this is about the alleged Olympic ticket scam and Marcus Evans possible involvement and it's potential impact on our football club.

Like it or not there will be some unwelcome publicity, and some distractions we could do without. This is most definitely a reasonable topic to have a discussion about given the seriousness of the allegations which could see our owner receive a prison sentence if found guilty. Saturday's second half performance is irrelevant under this heading and two lost points will pale into insignificance if these allegations have any foundation.

Calm down Mike, the season is only just started and there's a long way to go and potentially a few bumps along the way.

It's completely thr right thread when reading through the previous posts which mention inept performances etc. I agree any publicity can be harmful but there is no foundation to any of it yet. Google ME and to the best of my knowledge he has never been charged or found guilty of anything, Twice he had cases against him and both times found not guilty and cleared of any wrong doing.

I am perfectly calm just can't abide stupidity, and that is in general, not aimed at anyone in particular on here.

[herforder]

In relation to this particular allegation, better perhaps to await the outcome of the investigation.

But, for some, this episode only adds to suspicions that we have a 'dodgy' owner, whose motives and higher level management of the club are suspect, and whose insistence of annonimity and minimal interaction with supporters, only reinforce those suspicions.

The fact is that, as matters stand, we rely on the success of ME's wider business interests to help keep us afloat. I suspect there are legal and financial advantages for ME in owning the club; so any potential deal to sell up would need to produce at least equal advantages. But there's so much that we simply don't know.

[Charnwood]

Hopefully he won't need to sell up cos I don't imagine there'll be a queue of potential new owners waiting to buy us to invest their Billions.

FFS Hull City are in the Premiership and they seem to be struggling finding a new owner.

[hallamblue]

oops. The brown stuff is about to hit the fan for Mr Evans!!

http://www.thejournal.ie/olympic-ticket ... 1-Aug2016/

[Charnwood]

A similar article in today's Guardian;

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/ ... t-warrants

Not looking too good at the moment but I'm sure he'll have some decent lawyers onboard.

[ashfordblue]

I said no smoke without fire, I just hope that Marcus Evans gets hauled in, as he is the owner of TGH, and gets his porridge to boot, he would have to sell Ipswich then because under FA rules for correct clean ownership, they would have to tell him to sell up, and I bet there is some decent buyers out there, I'm just hoping and praying he gets nicked by the Brazilian police, then it would be absolutely impossible for him to carry on with the Town ownership, and if his funds get frozen that's not to worry as he spends f**k all anyway

[Bluemike]

I bet nothing comes of it where ME is concerned.

[arana peligrosa]

I bet nothing comes of it where ME is concerned.

No one is above the law and if Evans is indeed guilty of these incidents, then find the best legal representation money can buy because you'll be needing it. As someone else alluded to, one situation that could work : Evans gets found out, leaves the club under a cloud, and we can go about and find someone who possesses a tangible interest in running this club, not merely pissing around year after year and bringing resentment upon himself from disgruntled supporters.

This timing is lousy. We've just entered a new season and got the whole league campaign ahead of ourselves and this unsavory news item is going to do the club no favors in the weeks and months ahead. Either Evans is the devil incarnate or a f**king Norwich City fanatic on a secret mission, but this story still has a distance to run you would imagine.

[Bluemike]

I get what you're saying, what I am saying is I don't think anything will stick where ME is concerned, for years now he has these type of allegations thrown at him and every time he has been in the clear, admittedly this one is potentially more serious but I would be very surprised if he hasn't got every angle covered.