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Winnable Fixture huh???

Hull Win
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Town Win
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First one of the season?
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Hull City vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

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Pre Match Thoughts - Mike



Town's recent win at home to Preston North End saw them maintain their record this season of taking all or nothing from every game played, still no sign of a share of the spoils in sight, last season it was our inability to turn One point into Three that saw us ultimately struggle for most of the campaign and in turn had fans bemoaning the amount of draws we racked up, many times it was mentioned how better off we would be to win one lose one, well at present we are getting our wish and it is a scenario that has seen us somehow claw our way back up to the cusp of the play off places, quite incredible given how bad our situation is perceived to be and as stated in the last preview we are still on course to hit a minimum of seventy points with a Third of the season gone. Had MM not resorted to having a pop at the fans in the press and had he not insisted on doing the opposite to what the fans call for and had he not had the team resorting to direct hoofball at times I am sure many would be more accepting of him still being here for the duration, we all have our reasons as to why we support or manager or why we get to the point where enough is enough, everyone has their own individual tipping point, mine came at Cardiff, seeing half a team left on the bench and then Substitutions that made no sense and that offered little attempt to get back in the game came hot on the heels of Mick appearing to lose the fans yet again and I just cannot suffer another season of this ill feeling every week, add to that I felt let down in Wales, having spent well over £100 and taking Two days holiday to watch that was just a step too far. Bearing all this in mind I just can't get my head around exactly what we want going forward, can any new manager really do any better than what we are doing right now ? Yes it may be prettier to watch but will it glean any better results ? It's a results driven business after all, being attractive to watch won't guarantee anything where league placing is concerned, are we all being just a bit too sensitive with the MM outbursts and potentially cutting our noses off to spite our faces ? I genuinely am confused by the whole situation at our club right now, that said come the Summer we just have to see change, we cannot go on for ever and a day with this "Him" and "Us" situation.

As for the Preston game and what a tale of Two halves, don't get me wrong the second half was no classic but man it was far superior to the First half and also left the Cardiff showing standing. The only good thing about the opening Forty Five minutes was that for a while at least it cured my chronic Insomnia, it was plain awful until Injury Time and then it came to life, we scored at a crucial time and it gave us the impetus and belief to take it to them after the break, Preston are no great shakes and are suffering with the kind of Injury list that we can relate to only too well but we can only beat what is out there. The points are of course everything but for me the clean sheet was vital too, the defence needs a confidence boost and this will have helped, Bart was only called upon a couple of times and for the most part Webster and co stood firm and headed or cleared most of what was thrown at them. We all have our favourites of course but can anyone seriously tell me that Jordan Spence shouldn't be in ahead of Dominic Iorfa every time ? Yes Jordan had a couple of ropey games recently but nothing compared to Iorfa's regular contribution, it was great to see Spence bombing forward in the second half and creating Two goals, same with Jonas who actually could have scored a couple himself, I think these two were pivotal in the turnaround after the break, getting forward and giving us more options created problems for the Preston defence and created space for others. I think Bersant Celina did his talking on the pitch and has kinda made it very hard for Mick to leave him out going forward, time will tell of course.

Next up we face a trip to another struggling side in Hull City, the Tigers seem to be a shadow of the side they were not that long ago when they graced the Premier League. Seeing them in Twentieth place just Four points above the drop zone was not what I was expecting for sure and it just goes to show these parachute payments mean nothing if not utilised correctly. Incredibly Hull are the second highest scorers in the Championship, only Wolves have scored more (One goal in fact), it is at the back where they are really finding it tough and having conceded Thirty times already sees that only beaten by One club, Burton Albion, so I would suggest we need to get at them, Celina, Waggy, Garner and Didsy all to start please Mick because this team leak goals and are there to be taken, a Fourth away win is not beyond the realms of possibilty, like Preston it could be a good time to face them, I look at their line up on paper and ask myself who are these guys ? Nobody really jumps out at me, this is a great chance to get another Three points or at the very least to pick up something, is that first draw written in the stars ? COYB'S




The Opposition – Hull City



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Hull City Association Football Club was founded in June 1904, previous attempts to found a football club had proved difficult because of the dominance in the city of rugby league. teams such as Hull F.C. and Hull Kingston Rovers. These early matches were played at the Boulevard, the home of Hull F.C. After disputes with landlords at the Boulevard, Hull City moved to Anlaby Road Cricket Ground. Hull City were admitted into the Football League Second Division for the 1905–06 season. and finished the season in fifth place.

Hull City and Grimsby Town were the only two professional teams which had official permission to play league football on Christmas Day because of the demands of the fish trade. That tradition has now disappeared following the dramatic reduction of their trawler fleets in recent years. The following season a new ground was built for Hull City across the road from the cricket ground. Hull continued to finish consistently in the top half of the table. They came close to promotion in the 1909–10 season, recording what would be their highest finish until they matched it in 2008. Hull regularly finished in the top half of the table before the First World War, but after the war the team finished in the bottom half in seven seasons out of eleven, culminating in relegation to the Third Division North in 1930.

Hull's greatest achievement in cup competitions until 2014 was in 1930, when they reached the FA Cup semi-finals.

After the Second World War, the club moved to another new ground, Boothferry Park. In the 1948–49 season, Hull won the Third Division North championship. "Yo-yoing" between the second and third tiers of English football, Hull City had promotion seasons from the Third to the Second Division again in 1959 and 1966, winning the Third Division in the latter.

By the early 1980s, Hull City were in the Fourth Division, and financial collapse led to receivership.

Don Robinson took over as chairman and appointed Colin Appleton as the new manager. Promotion to Division Three followed in 1983.

Hull reached the Second Division in 1985. They remained there for the next six years before finally going down in 1991. Hull finished 14th in the Third Division in the 1991–92 season, meaning that they would be competing in the new Second Division the following season.

In their first season in the rebranded division, Hull narrowly avoided another relegation, but over the next two seasons they achieved mid-table finishes. Financial difficulties hampered City's progress, as key players had to be sold to fend off winding-up orders. In the 1995–96 season Hull were relegated to the Third Division.

In 1997 the club was purchased by former tennis player David Lloyd. Hull's league form was steadily deteriorating to the point that relegation to the Football Conference was looking a real possibility. Lloyd sold the club in November 1998 to a South Yorkshire based consortium, but retained ownership of Boothferry Park.

Despite briefly being locked out of Boothferry Park by bailiffs and facing the possibility of liquidation, Hull qualified for the Third Division play-offs in the 2000–01 season. A boardroom takeover by former Leeds United commercial director Adam Pearson had eased the club's precarious financial situation and all fears of closure were banished as he ploughed funds into the club.

Hull relocated to the new 25,400-seater KC Stadium after 56 years at Boothferry Park.

Hull were Third Division runners-up in 2003–04 and League One runners-up in 2004–05; these back-to-back promotions took them into the Championship. The 2005–06 season, the club's first back in the second tier, saw Hull finish in 18th place and their highest league finish for 16 years.

Adam Pearson sold the club to a consortium led by Paul Duffen in June 2007, stating that he "had taken the club as far as I could", in order to attract "really significant finance into the club". Under Paul Duffen and manager Phil Brown, Hull City improved greatly on their relegation battle of 2006–07 and qualified for the play-offs after finishing the season in third place. They beat Watford 6–1 on aggregate in the semi-finals and played Bristol City in the Final on 24 May 2008, which Hull won 1–0 at Wembley Stadium. Their ascent from the bottom division of the Football League to the top division of English football in just five seasons is the third-fastest ever.

Despite being one of the favourites for relegation in the 2008–09 season, Hull had only one defeat in their opening nine gamesand found themselves (temporarily) joint-top of the Premier League table on points (third on goal difference — ten years previously, they had been bottom of the fourth tier of English football.

Hull's form never replicated the highs of the early autumn, with the team winning only two more games over the remainder of the season, but secured their top-flight status on the last day of the season due to other results.

On 29 October 2009, chairman Paul Duffen resigned his position with the club, and was replaced by former chairman Adam Pearson. On 15 March 2010, manager Phil Brown was put on gardening leave after a run of four defeats left Hull in the relegation zone. Brown's replacement was former Crystal Palace and Charlton boss Iain Dowie, and the appointment was met with some disbelief by supporters who were hoping for a "bigger name" replacement. Hull City's relegation from the Premier League was confirmed on 3 May 2010

A reported block on player transfers into the club, set in place by the Hull City board on 28 July 2010 until transfers out would substantially reduce the £39 million-per-year wage bill, at first cast doubt on the new manager's (Nigel Pearson) efforts to build a squad capable of a quick return to the Premier League. The team set a new club record on 12 March 2011 with 14 away matches unbeaten, breaking a previous record held for over 50 years.

On 15 November 2011, Nigel Pearson left the club to return to Leicester. Nick Barmby was appointed as his successor, but was sacked in May 2012 after publicly criticising the club's owners in an interview given to a local newspaper. In the same month, the club's consultancy agreement with Adam Pearson was terminated.

On 8 June 2012, Steve Bruce was appointed manager of the club on a three-year deal, and he guided Hull back to the Premier League on the final day of the season.

On 13 April 2014, the club reached its first FA Cup Final . Their place in the 2014-15 Europa League, regardless of whether they won the 2013-14 FA Cup, was confirmed on 3 May as Everton's failure to win meant that Hull's FA Cup Final opponents Arsenal would compete in the 2014-15 UEFA Champions League.

On 31 July 2014, Hull made their debut in European competition, in the UEFA Europa League third qualifying round, with a 2-1 aggregate win over Slovakian side FK AS Trenčín. An away goals aggregate loss against Belgian outfit Lokeren marked the end of Hull's first foray into European football.

In March 2015 Steve Bruce signed a further three-year deal with the club. Hull were relegated from the Premier League after the 2014-15 season, finishing eighteenth with 35 points.

Via the playoffs Hull returned to the Premier League at the end of the 2015/16 season.

On 22 July 2016, Bruce resigned from his position. Mike Phelan became Hull's permanent head coach. On 3 January 2017, Phelan was sacked by Hull City, less than three months after being made permanent.

On 5 January 2017, the club announced the appointment of Marco Silva as the new head coach until the end of the 2016–17 season. On 25 May 2017, following relegation from the Premier League, Silva resigned and the club announced the appointment of Leonid Slutsky as head coach.




The Manager – Leonid Slutsky



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Past Match - Video Highlights - Trev




Lets hope we can end a winless run over Hull!










Media Watch - K L Blue




Ipswich Ladies


http://www.greenun24.co.uk/ipswich-town ... -1-5280268


No world cup for Tommy


https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2017/novemb ... for-tommy/


Kevin Bru


http://www.greenun24.co.uk/ipswich-town ... -1-5282640





Form Guide




Hull City Last 5 Matches - Currently in 20th place with 16 points



14 Oct Norwich City 1 - 1 Hull City

21 Oct Barnsley 0 - 1 Hull City

28 Oct Hull City 2 - 3 Nottm Forest

31 Oct Hull City 1 - 3 Middlesbrough

4 Nov Sheffield Utd 4 - 1 Hull City





Ipswich Last 5 Matches - Currently in 8th place with 24 points




14 Oct Sheffield Utd 1 - 0 Ipswich Town

22 Oct Ipswich Town 0 - 1 Norwich City

28 Oct Burton Albion 1 - 2 Ipswich Town

31 Oct Cardiff City 3 - 1 Ipswich Town

4 Nov Ipswich Town 3 - 0 Preston





Fixtures of Interest




CARDIFF CITY VS BRENTFORD


SHEFF. WEDNESDAY VS BRISTOL CITY


Q.P.R. VS ASTON VILLA


FULHAM VS DERBY COUNTY


LEEDS UTD. VS MIDDLESBROUGH







Match Referee – David Coote




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HULL CITY AFC 1 IPSWICH TOWN 1

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Re: Hull City vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Post by Quasar » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:26 pm

3-1 to us methinks

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Post by Watership Down » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:11 pm

Haven't beaten Hull in the last number of games that we have played them but it's time for that to change if Mick is serious about challenging for a playoff position. We have to take points here either a draw or win. Play the big 3 up front Didsy, Waghorn, and Garner, with Celina backing them up at least lets go for a win.

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Post by ashfordblue » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:25 pm

:roll: Will Mick pick the team that beat Preston, bet he changes it ???

Also usually after an International break, we inevitably lose, BUT if we can keep the same midfield which performed well, along with Waggy, Didsey, Celina, & Garner, we might pull off a shock win

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Post by marko69 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:55 pm

20th and second highest scorers? Now that is one crazy stat! Conceding 30 so far is equally crazy...... definitely out and at em from the off!

This could be the first draw of the season, but I was leaning towards the ITFC win. With the leaking Tigers defence, going to say away win, with hopefully Waghorn starting the game.
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Player: Absolute sh*t decision, ref. You'll make the headlines with that.
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Post by arana peligrosa » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:03 am

Team has a tendency to fall below standard against teams in and around the relegation zone, this may well come to pass once again. Voted in favor of home victory, we got players that are capable, but inconsistency and the oppositions desire to move away from the space they occupy leave certain doubts.

Hull City 3 Ipswich 2

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Post by barmy billy » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:14 am

Hull 1 - ITFC 3

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Post by marko69 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:55 pm

This is indeed a great day...... Floors has posted......., AND ^^^^ away win prediction from you, Barmy! Awesome. :D

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Post by number 9 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:03 pm

Anyone hear if Huws will be starting?

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:09 pm

Most likely on the bench No.9

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Post by charlton837 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:30 pm

good time to play Hull. Im going to go for an away win and Slutsky to be sacked by their next game...

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Post by Dubai Blue » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:14 am

Great review but not sure about BMs conclusion. For me if they score a lot and leak plenty then it's a classic away game to try to prevent them from scoring and look for one on the break.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:58 pm

Bialkowski
Spence
Webster
Chambers
Knudsen
Skuse
Connolly
Waghorn
Celina
Garner
McGoldrick

Gerken, Ward, Iorfa, Nydam, Sears, Kenlock, Bru

clear emphasis on attacking intent today, quietly confident

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Post by shamm » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:24 pm

The attach is working
0-1 to Town. Mc G.

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Post by shamm » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:40 pm

1-1

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Post by lucy » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:55 pm

2-2 a good point if we can hold on.

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Post by lucy » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:00 pm

FT 2-2 i will take a point.

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Post by charlton837 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:02 pm

Good point in the end all things considered. However really feel we should have won this, hull are so poor at the moment. By the sounds of the match both teams are shocking defensively, too many mistakes.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:46 pm

Relieved to get the point but could so easily have been more with a bit of belief. Right result in the end.

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Post by ashfordblue » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:47 pm

:roll: Told you Mick would change the midfield and put his love child Scuse in, he cant fooking help it had to change it and dropped Bru who had a good game against Preston, still a draw 2-2 at Hull was a good result, and missed a penalty, could've won it

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Post by charlton837 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:14 pm

Yes Ashford and you also called for Connolly to play. He did and I see no mention of him in your message. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your point but seems to me you really want to be negative whatever the circumstances

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Post by marko69 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:20 pm

So you're saying any Ex-Skuse to be negative, Charlton?

How many Effin times has that joke been cracked!? :astroll: :D

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:30 pm

Says it all that it was only his name mentioned again, pathetic.

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Post by ashfordblue » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:32 pm

charlton837 wrote:Yes Ashford and you also called for Connolly to play. He did and I see no mention of him in your message. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your point but seems to me you really want to be negative whatever the circumstances
Moi negative :shock: heaven forbid, I just knew Mick would play Scuse, rather than Bru, :? nothing fooking negative about that comment Charlton, its just a bloody fact,

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Post by Mach_Polish_Blue » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:57 pm

Large number of our fans will say it's a good point and point away from home should always be deemed as a good result. Yeah, let's take a point and move on, eh? What next?

McCarthy has a cheek to con those who haven't been at Hull and say it's a well-earned point. That could have been completely different story but for his same old awful, painful tactics. It's safe to say it was a torment for the travelling Town fans. People were so quiet and seemed totally resigned with the team's nothingness and lack of ideas especially in the 2nd half.

However the way we started the match we could have torn them apart. All over them until McGoldrick's goal. I don't think they visited our half in the last 5 minutes. Nice well deserved lead. Bluemike did ask me after the goal if I'd taken a point. Would I fook??!! Hull's team and crowd looked so bleak. Very depressing place. Never seen so many empty seats during my visits there.

But no matter how poor an opposition is, no matter how badly they lack confidence there is always a hope for them. And that is playing Ipswich Town who will happily let you play because that is Ipswich's manager and his tactics for you. Instead of going for 2nd and possibly put the game to bed after 20-30 minutes we gradually allowed them to come back to this. We barely threatened McGregor in the remainder for the first half. Hull seemed shy initially but we kept inviting them and giving incentive. And let them have the ball. Typical McCarthyism part 150 ! Let's try to shut the shop !

An equaliser had to come. Poor defending despite four defenders and two deeply sitting defensive midfielders.
Celina and Waghorn didn't offer anything going forward but it's nigh on entire team who were very generous and on the back foot after McGoldrick's goal.

Second half started a bit more promising. A little bit more activity near their box and Celina's shot on target was parried away by McGregor. And all of sudden and out of nowhere we conceded 2nd after bad Chambers' mistake who himself failed to deal with the ball and onrushing Dicko. One on one with Bialkowski and goal was a formality.

What happened afterwards was depressing. There seemed to be lack of fight in the team, lack of ideas. You sat there with practically no hope as the team never gave us any hopes. It was Hull who were actually closer to score another one as terrible backpass from Knudsen to Bialkowski could have ended the match.

And that one who himself doesn't give a fook about the Town fans stood in his technical area with hands in the pockets. We played badly and some alternatives were required. However he wasn't bothered to make any changes. We were losing against the team who lacked confidence yet .... still played with two deeply sitting defensive midfielders. And he thinks that's best in the moment like that !

A penalty which we missed was soft in my opinion. McGregor saved that and the sadness deepened.

80 minute and first substitutions ! 'Well done' tactical master !

Spence's equaliser though undeserved and harsh on Hull was still a big relief. But even a bigger one was Hull's chance in the 3rd minute of injury time when their striker somehow missed a simple header from few yards. How did he miss it? Massive let off.

Given the way we were playing we have to accept a point. Yes still though reluctant to do so as we should have put the game to bed in the first half but for 'inviting opposition' tactics.

There was no midfield whatsoever. No-one to pass the ball towards strikers but I'm sounding like a broken record. This is McCarthy and we have to endure the same sh*t at least until May. Not only does he big up opposition in his interviews he let them have a go at us on the pitch as well whereas it was us who ought to have dictated the proceedings today.
Obviously there will be a few from 'Super Mick' brigade who will dearly defend himself. For me personally it's hard to accept that 'philosophy' of letting opposition play. Of course we sometimes play good teams and good defending is required but there was no need for that today. Same like against Burton three weeks ago when we had been so abject for the majority of the match. McCarthy keeps making us gutless and fearful. Obsessed about opposition and we cannot even express ourselves. The team looks really shackled at times. Beyond me to understand why some accept that 'philosophy'.

Of course some will point out that we are only 1 point from the play-offs but I don't and will never accept letting opposition play. I'm far from happy with that. I want an opposition to be scared of us.

Feeling frustrated today with failure to beat poor opposition but that was due to our 'tactics'. The draw is the solitary positive from today as we hardly deserved it.

So now let's put two defensive midfielders in front of back four against Sheffield Wed, let them play and see what happens !

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Post by arana peligrosa » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:28 am

The above presents a comprehensive insight into events and took in some post-game reaction from Those Were The Days and all told this score divides opinion.

Taking things into consideration, a point is probably a fair score. Got a goal with time running out to salvage it and while the missed penalty award was a disappointment, those who traveled should have been content enough to save it late on.

On seeing the starting XI earlier today initial reaction was one of expectation and we got two goals from it but defensive concerns would seem to arise once more. As others have alluded to, we got the making of a good team with players that are capable, but pity is there doesn't appear to be enough cohesion and too often (a) 'play for a point mentality' from certain individuals restrict proper progress. On paper alone a draw at their venue is an adequate score, put into the mix were a great many other factors from today, but can only imagine the reaction had Spence not saved it towards the end.

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Post by charlton837 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:51 am

ashfordblue wrote:
charlton837 wrote:Yes Ashford and you also called for Connolly to play. He did and I see no mention of him in your message. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your point but seems to me you really want to be negative whatever the circumstances
Moi negative :shock: heaven forbid, I just knew Mick would play Scuse, rather than Bru, :? nothing fooking negative about that comment Charlton, its just a bloody fact,
Well going by what the eadt made of the game they said skuse was our best player at hull and he had his best game in a long time. I didn't go so cant make my own opinion on it. Just seems you want to pick up on him however he plays. If you want bru in the team instead fair enough. My point was you wanted Connolly in last time, so if we played skuse and bru you still wouldn't be happy. I think at the moment skuse is a certain starter. I'm not saying he's brilliant by the way, I too wouldn't mind if he wasn't in the team every week but I wont blame him for every dropped point

Marko, nice joke! Why didn't I think of that one!

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:29 am

Travelling back from the game last night Hallam messaged me to ask how it went and if I felt it was Two points dropped or One point gained, my answer was by and large I felt it was definitely Two points dropped but scoring so late it also felt a bit like One gained. For me we let Two points get away from us and I say this based on Two things, firstly how we started the game and secondly how rank bad and lacking in confidence Hull City are right now, they were there for the taking and we had enough in the locker to do so.

MM decided to keep the same team that started against Preston North End Two weeks back meaning another start in Central Midfield for Callum Connolly, disappointingly there was no place even on the bench for Emyr Huws who I have since found out has picked up yet another niggling Hamstring injury ! The attacking line up of Waghorn, Garner, Didsy & Celina looked a tantalising one given how Hull like to leak goals and it wasnt long before it gained control of the game, Town had started really brightly and had Hull pinned back in their half for the opening few minutes, Joe Garner who so badly needs a goal saw his header brilliantly saved by McGregor but seconds later Town took the lead from the corner that followed, Waghorn played it short, picked up the return pass before sending in a decent cross, Skuse, YES SKUSE !! played a neat little ball over the top which fell invitingly for Didsy to fire home, barely Five minutes in and already One up, just the start that we needed against a team drained of any confidence. Town continued to take the game to our hosts and One or two half chances fell our way without really troubling McGregor further, there had been a crispness to Town's passing and we were breaking forward in determined fashion, at the back we had looked solid with Hull really offering little as an attacking force, in fact it must have been mid way through the first half before Bart was called upon to catch a longish shot, a routine save but their first sight of our goal.

That attack was the catalsyt for the flow of the game to change and it is really hard to fathom out why, all of a sudden we stopped doing what we had been doing for the opening 20/25 minutes and were allowing Hull to come onto us, did we invite them on ? Hard to say but either way it wasn't long before we gifted them a goal to see it tied at 1-1. The impressive Grosicki turned Connolly inside out before sending in a cross which resulted in the equaliser, to be fair there was an element of fortune to it as it hit Webster and fell invitingly for the Hull striker to ram home at the far post, in truth it could have fell anywhere but it went against us, Bart left with little chance. Despite the ill luck we only had ourselves to blame, we should have gone for the jugular at 1-0 but instead we appeared to ease off a bit and let a team that looked to have no idea gain a bit of confidence and belief, it lifted the mood of the crowd who to the point had been silent. The remaining few minutes of the first half saw Hull in the ascendancy as they came at us looking to get themselves ahead. The Town defence that had looked comfortable was suddenly rocking and having to get themselves in front of shots and passes, thankfully we saw it out without bart really being tested but the warning signs were there. It was a half of Two halves for sure, quite why that was it hard to know as after Twenty minutes I was thinking this is going to be a good day for us and more Towm goals would follow, that was to change for the remaining Twenty minutes as we seemed to lack belief we could take them apart. The half was littered with numerous niggly little fouls and it has to be siad it was us continually giving them away when there was no need to do so. We had failed to get Celina & Waghorn involved enough and if we could get the ball to them more after the break it was still there to be won, Didsy had been the pick for me with Spence & Skuse looking solid if unspectacular.

The second half began in positive mood as again we started on the front foot, Celina hitting a long range shot straight at McGregor in the Hull goal. What followed a couple of minutes later was a real shocker for Town captain Luke Chambers, a long high ball was played down field by Hull and Chambo made an absolute hash of dealing with it, this allowed Dicko to pick up the ball stride forward and plant his shot firmly passed Bart to give them the lead, it really was a terrible goal to give away and suddenly we had a mountain to climb when we should really have been coasting. Hull were now scenting blood and came forward again looking for a Third while Town seemed to have had the confidence knocked out of them, all the more frustrating was that we were failing to create proper chances to get ourselves back into it. Yellow cards were being shown at will as the game became scruffy, even more annoying was the longer it went on change was needed but MM stood on the touchline with no Subs in sight ! There was a further scare for Town when Knudsen tried his best to play Hull in with a woeful back pass which thankfully Bart just got to before the attacker. Town's play was so far removed from what we had seen for the opening 20 minutes of the match and all this against a p*ss poor Hull side.

Suddenly and out of nowhere Town had a lifeline with the award of our first penalty of the season, a strong run into the box by Waghorn saw the striker bundled over, the Ref pointing straight to the spot, after a brief chat between waggy and Didsy it was the latter who placed the ball on the spot, I said to Mach and others around me not to get too excited as I just felt he was going to fluff it and so it proved as he hit it way to close to the keeper who pushed it away quite comfortably, you could not help but feel a Waghorn piledriver was what was neede, the 1000 Town fans behind the goal stood in stunned silence with heads in hands fearing our best chance of getting something from the game was gone. Finally with ten minutes left the subs came on Ward & Bru replacing Connolly and Waghorn, the latter for me being the wrong man to go off as he is our biggest goal threat every time. The game was peetering out to the final whistle when Mick sent on Sears in place of Didsy who's head seemed to have gone down following his howler but it all looked too little too late. Unbelievably Town somehow found a leveller from nowhere, Chambers & Webster, who it has to be said were both really poor for the final hour of the game, fashioned a ball into the box between them and there was Jordan Spence stretching out his long leg to divert it into the net off the inside of the post to send us fans behind that goal into raptures, call it great reflexes or a total fluke but who gives a damn, Spence again showed he can be in the right place at the right time when we need it most to get a crucial goal, it was his third of the season and boy how he loved it. There was still time for us to almost throw it away as a woeful kick again frm Bart put Hull straight on the attack and the Hull sub Diomande somehow puts his header wide when he looked odds on to score the winner. Relief all round for Town who will be pleased to have taken something from the game.

Two points dropped when you look at the opposition and how we started but so grateful to claim a share of the spoils right at the death when it looked lost. Quite why we went into our shells I dont know, I still fail to accept Mick instructs the players to do this, the fact we have scored so many late goals this season speaks volumes that heads don't go down and we keep fighting to the eand, I can only put it down to lacking in belief in themselves that they are good enough to really rip teams apart. There were no stand out performers on the day just a few solid displays and one or Two very bad ones. Last season that would have been a defeat and going on our pattern of results this season it was looking like defeat so the Point could prove crucial, I just can't help but think the Two that got away could prove to be even more so come May.

Bart (6) Spence (7) Chambers (5) Webster (5) Knudsen (6) Connolly (5) Skuse (6) Celina (6) Waghorn (6) McGoldrick (6) Garner (6)

SUBS :- Ward (6) Bru (6) Sears (5)

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Re: Hull City vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Post by Dubai Blue » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:11 pm

Well finally we got a draw! Sometimes a draw is a bonus in the context of the game and for sure to get the equaliser so late in the game was a success.

But I'm interested to discuss what changed at around 20/25 minutes that we lost our grip on the first half? (And by the way it sounds like the pattern was repeated in the second). Did the players tire and need a breather? Did Mick pull them back and start to chastise them for taking attacking risks? Did Hull change something? I wasn't there so I have nothing to offer on this. Maybe someone who was there can give an opinion?

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Re: Hull City vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Post by ashfordblue » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:39 pm

Mach_Polish_Blue wrote:Large number of our fans will say it's a good point and point away from home should always be deemed as a good result. Yeah, let's take a point and move on, eh? What next?

McCarthy has a cheek to con those who haven't been at Hull and say it's a well-earned point. That could have been completely different story but for his same old awful, painful tactics. It's safe to say it was a torment for the travelling Town fans. People were so quiet and seemed totally resigned with the team's nothingness and lack of ideas especially in the 2nd half.

However the way we started the match we could have torn them apart. All over them until McGoldrick's goal. I don't think they visited our half in the last 5 minutes. Nice well deserved lead. Bluemike did ask me after the goal if I'd taken a point. Would I fook??!! Hull's team and crowd looked so bleak. Very depressing place. Never seen so many empty seats during my visits there.

But no matter how poor an opposition is, no matter how badly they lack confidence there is always a hope for them. And that is playing Ipswich Town who will happily let you play because that is Ipswich's manager and his tactics for you. Instead of going for 2nd and possibly put the game to bed after 20-30 minutes we gradually allowed them to come back to this. We barely threatened McGregor in the remainder for the first half. Hull seemed shy initially but we kept inviting them and giving incentive. And let them have the ball. Typical McCarthyism part 150 ! Let's try to shut the shop !

An equaliser had to come. Poor defending despite four defenders and two deeply sitting defensive midfielders.
Celina and Waghorn didn't offer anything going forward but it's nigh on entire team who were very generous and on the back foot after McGoldrick's goal.

Second half started a bit more promising. A little bit more activity near their box and Celina's shot on target was parried away by McGregor. And all of sudden and out of nowhere we conceded 2nd after bad Chambers' mistake who himself failed to deal with the ball and onrushing Dicko. One on one with Bialkowski and goal was a formality.

What happened afterwards was depressing. There seemed to be lack of fight in the team, lack of ideas. You sat there with practically no hope as the team never gave us any hopes. It was Hull who were actually closer to score another one as terrible backpass from Knudsen to Bialkowski could have ended the match.

And that one who himself doesn't give a fook about the Town fans stood in his technical area with hands in the pockets. We played badly and some alternatives were required. However he wasn't bothered to make any changes. We were losing against the team who lacked confidence yet .... still played with two deeply sitting defensive midfielders. And he thinks that's best in the moment like that !

A penalty which we missed was soft in my opinion. McGregor saved that and the sadness deepened.

80 minute and first substitutions ! 'Well done' tactical master !

Spence's equaliser though undeserved and harsh on Hull was still a big relief. But even a bigger one was Hull's chance in the 3rd minute of injury time when their striker somehow missed a simple header from few yards. How did he miss it? Massive let off.

Given the way we were playing we have to accept a point. Yes still though reluctant to do so as we should have put the game to bed in the first half but for 'inviting opposition' tactics.

There was no midfield whatsoever. No-one to pass the ball towards strikers but I'm sounding like a broken record. This is McCarthy and we have to endure the same sh*t at least until May. Not only does he big up opposition in his interviews he let them have a go at us on the pitch as well whereas it was us who ought to have dictated the proceedings today.
Obviously there will be a few from 'Super Mick' brigade who will dearly defend himself. For me personally it's hard to accept that 'philosophy' of letting opposition play. Of course we sometimes play good teams and good defending is required but there was no need for that today. Same like against Burton three weeks ago when we had been so abject for the majority of the match. McCarthy keeps making us gutless and fearful. Obsessed about opposition and we cannot even express ourselves. The team looks really shackled at times. Beyond me to understand why some accept that 'philosophy'.

Of course some will point out that we are only 1 point from the play-offs but I don't and will never accept letting opposition play. I'm far from happy with that. I want an opposition to be scared of us.

Feeling frustrated today with failure to beat poor opposition but that was due to our 'tactics'. The draw is the solitary positive from today as we hardly deserved it.

So now let's put two defensive midfielders in front of back four against Sheffield Wed, let them play and see what happens !
:) Excellent report Mach, it seems to be the same old game plan from Mick, as you've stated, after an international break or if the opposition has been struggling, good old Ipswich come along and do there upmost to help these teams out, instead of going for the jugular and finishing them off, we are like a bloody light switch, turn on and off in crucial games, but thanks for your honesty, but be careful you might get criticised of being too negative Mach, but you always tell it like it is and I respect that, cant wait for May to come and possibly see the back of MM, well I bloody hope so along with 75% of other fans, as* you have stated if we set up against Sheff Wednesday like this, we will pay dearly.

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