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List our “ quality” players

Post by hallamblue » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:23 pm

Just following on from Rossi’s post, it got me thinking. Are we REALLY devoid of 5rue quality , or is it they are simply injured or McCarthy just doesn’t pick them? So thought I’d tr6 and list what I feel are quality players at the Club.

DEFENCE

Bart
Webster
Kenlock ( rarely picked)
Carter- Vickers ( not ours)
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MIDFIELD
Nydam ( injured?)
Dozzell ( injured)
Downes ( loaned out)
Bishop ( injured)
Huws ( injured)
Celina ( not ours)
Connolly ( not ours)
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STRIKERS

?????
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ACADEMY
Woolfenden ( untried)
Folami ( untried)

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:02 pm

Personally I think we have a few quality players within the squad, unfortunately MM has been hampered by numerous injuries which hasnt helped his cause, for me the following would all be on my retained list :-


Bialkowski
Gerken

Webster
Chambers

Huws
Adeyemi
Dozzell
Downes
Bishop
Nydam

Waghorn
Garner
Drinan

The following would be 50/50 for me :-


Kenlock
Skuse
Ward
Spence



The following have to be got rid of :-

Knudsen
Iorfa
Gleeson
Sears
McGoldrick
Bru
Rowe
Hyam
Emmanuel


The kids coming through show promise and it would be nice to think the likes of Woolfenden, Morris, Webber, Patterson, Folami and McKendry all have a part to play.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:36 am

Don't get to see as much of the team in live action as some others so opinion will be limited. First and foremost Bialkowski, then Waghorn and Celina (even if technically not 'our' player)

Connolly maybe deserves inclusion and Bru also. One or two seem to get castigated week in week out so they can be safely omitted. Apologize if appears vague but as again there will be others with better understanding.

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Post by charlton837 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:24 am

saint jude wrote:Don't get to see as much of the team in live action as some others so opinion will be limited. First and foremost Bialkowski, then Waghorn and Celina (even if technically not 'our' player)

Connolly maybe deserves inclusion and Bru also. One or two seem to get castigated week in week out so they can be safely omitted. Apologize if appears vague but as again there will be others with better understanding.
Bru?I assume that must have been a typo

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Post by Tangfastic » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:02 pm

It could be some players - either picked or not by MM - could flourish under a different manager.

Ward is one who is anonymous in a couple of games and then shows some quality. Kenlock hasn’t been given any real chance to develop. Until he’s given 10-15 consecutive games in the side it’s hard to know. In contrast, Knudsen has been given 2 1/2 seasons as a regular and Mick has been keen to tell the fans that Knudsen will always be in his side.

All depends who will be manager next season. If Mick, then it’s no so much about quality but who fits in with him.

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Post by rossi » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:58 pm

quality players?
players who can change a game?
players that other Championship clubs would buy?

ok, I'll list them below.............





that's it!!!!

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Post by loudnproud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:19 pm

rossi wrote:quality players?
players who can change a game?
players that other Championship clubs would buy?

ok, I'll list them below.............





that's it!!!!
hahahaha....You beat me to it :D :lol: Seriously though. Bart is the only one.....Mike? Chambers!!!! Realy..

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Post by marko69 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:35 pm

Bart and Waghorn

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:50 pm

loudnproud wrote:
rossi wrote:quality players?
players who can change a game?
players that other Championship clubs would buy?

ok, I'll list them below.............





that's it!!!!
hahahaha....You beat me to it :D :lol: Seriously though. Bart is the only one.....Mike? Chambers!!!! Realy..
Yes mate, you need a leader, he is the best captain we have had for years and I don't just mean on the pitch, he has been very instrumental in at least trying to keep what little bit of togetherness we have left between players and fans. I accept he is not the best player in the world but he does at least bloody care.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:34 am

Beattie
Wark
Muhren
Mariner ETC :wink: :D

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Post by hallamblue » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:13 am

God, just ONE of those players would make a massive difference to the team.
Now I’m depressed for the day and what we’ve lost and where we are now !! Cheers Derek! :cry:

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Post by marko69 » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:59 pm

Not too sure about Mariner. Those glasses he wears? He'd be struggling to latch on to those world class k-Nood through passes. I may be wrong though. Maybe he's had that laser eye treatment and he'd be fine.

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:04 pm

This is the sad thing we will always be faced with, our glorious past is now a burden for any Town Team/player/manager of the future.

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Post by Charnwood » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:24 pm

To be honest Mike I think it’s more of an issue for the fans than it is for management who probably don’t even give it a thought.

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Post by Charnwood » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:30 pm

Having just read Derek’s post prompted me to Google Paul Mariner to see where he is now etc.

It also brought home how few of Bobby Robson’s players went on to be successfull managers which is surprising really given how much they would have learned from the great man.

Maybe a topic here for another thread ?

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Post by Watership Down » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:41 pm

Paul Mariner was manager at Toronto FC a couple of seasons ago... he was out on the East coast managing New England Revolution when he first came here . He is a colour commentator for ESPN in the US now

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Post by Tricky » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:24 pm

hallamblue wrote:Just following on from Rossi’s post, it got me thinking. Are we REALLY devoid of 5rue quality , or is it they are simply injured or McCarthy just doesn’t pick them? So thought I’d tr6 and list what I feel are quality players at the Club.

DEFENCE

Bart
Webster
Kenlock ( rarely picked)
Carter- Vickers ( not ours)
——————————————-

MIDFIELD
Nydam ( injured?)
Dozzell ( injured)
Downes ( loaned out)
Bishop ( injured)
Huws ( injured)
Celina ( not ours)
Connolly ( not ours)
———————————————

STRIKERS

?????
————————————————
ACADEMY
Woolfenden ( untried)
Folami ( untried)

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Post by Tricky » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:13 pm

hallamblue wrote:Just following on from Rossi’s post, it got me thinking. Are we REALLY devoid of 5rue quality , or is it they are simply injured or McCarthy just doesn’t pick them? So thought I’d tr6 and list what I feel are quality players at the Club.

DEFENCE

Bart
Webster
Kenlock ( rarely picked)
Carter- Vickers ( not ours)
——————————————-

MIDFIELD
Nydam ( injured?)
Dozzell ( injured)
Downes ( loaned out)
Bishop ( injured)
Huws ( injured)
Celina ( not ours)
Connolly ( not ours)
———————————————

STRIKERS

?????
————————————————
ACADEMY
Woolfenden ( untried)
Folami ( untried)
None of the above.

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Re: List our “ quality” players

Post by Bluemike » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:19 pm

Really ? You on a wind up ?

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Post by Tricky » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:53 pm

Bluemike wrote:Really ? You on a wind up ?
The clue is in the word "quality". I am not saying that all our players are crap, but I haven't seen a "quality" player in a Town shirt for a fair while now.

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Post by Tangfastic » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:17 am

Tricky wrote:
Bluemike wrote:Really ? You on a wind up ?
The clue is in the word "quality". I am not saying that all our players are crap, but I haven't seen a "quality" player in a Town shirt for a fair while now.
Quality also depends on what they're instructions and targets are on the pitch. They're not supposed to knock it about and play classy football. Get the foot in, disrupt play, negate opposition, knock it long, try and nick a goal from corners/free-kicks, play for fine margins, not make mistakes (mistakes being not giving possession away in your own half and not making defensive errors). If you buy into that, then I suppose there are quality players in the team who do their job well. They're more widely known as 'different class'.

I actually feel we have players who have the ability to play better football. We see their 'quality' now and again - but usually when we're behind and the opposition sits back.

Look on the bright side - apart from Bart, our players are unlikely to be targeted by bigger clubs.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:12 am

I’m looking forward to seeing what a forward thinking manager will do with some of our creative players. We just don’t seem them under McCarthy do we!

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