Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

[arana peligrosa]

Believe someone alluded to the fact that if Hurst is unable to navigate a one-off game at League One level how's he supposed to take charge of a Championship outfit over nine months against all manner of higher / more established opposition.

What you can ascertain is Hurst is almost certainly going to depart Shrewsbury in the summer, the likelihood he could arrive here is in so many words "probable". I know there's those in favor of such an appointment, whereas with others there's a certain skepticism or doubt should it come to pass.

A thought arrived in recent time that Bruce could be a possible late candidate. People won't entertain the idea through his Norwich connections and it's unlikely he'll leave Aston Villa but as they've missed out on a promotion and all things are possible in this game it's hardly totally off-radar. Would prefer it over Hurst like it or not, point being this club requires someone with the relevant experience and knowledge to lead us on, bringing in someone from lower league would present considerable risk.

[Bluemike]

Despite the fact Bruce was also unable to navigate a one off game at Wembley and yet he would be acceptable ? Trust me Hurst taking Shrewsbury to Wembley (twice) is a far greater achievement than Bruce buying his way there. We wanted change for christ sake, something different, as Ricco says Hurst isnt even appointed yet but when he is we ALL need to get behind the guy.

[Charnwood]

Believe me, in my opinion Hurst needs us to further his career far more than we need him.

What we need is a Championship specialist, acca Neil Warnock, not an ex/current League 1 Manager.

Haven't we just had a "Championship specialist" in McCarthy?

I think fans are sick on conservatism and I think there's value in bringing in a young manager with modern ideas. Besides, Warnock is not available.

I think it's a risk, that's for sure, the bookies have us favourites for the drop for a reason, it's probably not really fair, but this is about as important an appointment as I can remember, I genuinely think we are close to being in real trouble as a club, a few more years of boring mangers getting mid table finishes and the fan base could be so diminished that slipping in to league 1 could be disastrous. It's clear Evans is going to invest f*ck all, so we need to recruit a manger who has done well in a similar situation, Paul Hurst is a roll of the dice, but this is an entertainment industry and gambling is fun... I mean, Hurst will hopefully be a breath of fresh air after McCarthy.

What am I talking about, he still hasn't signed anything yet...

I agree with much of what you say Ricco and yes McCarthy was a Championship specialist which is exactly why we’re still in the Championship and not League One which is where we were heading for sure before he arrived and worked a miracle. I’m also pretty sure that had ME given him the financial support he gave Keane, McCarthy most likely would have got us promoted but we’ll never know.

The reason I can’t get overly excited over Paul Hurst is because the jump from League one to the Championship is massive and the Championship is one of the most competitive leagues in Europe. If fans think our new young manager is suddenly going to start playing pretty football with the same group of players plus a few of his own freebie picks and loanees they need to take a reality check. Next year will almost certainly be a hard slog for us and if we try to play attractive football without having adequate resources we could be like lambs going for slaughter, but I guess if attractive football is more important to some fans than where we sit in the table at the end of the season then sobeit.

I got to the stage where I couldn’t stand McCarthy but I still respect the fact that he over achieved with his limited financial resources given to him and replacing him with a Championship novice is a risk I wouldn’t dream of taking if I were the owner.

At the moment I can’t even remotely get excited about next season and can wholly understand why the bookmakers don’t appear to fancy our chances. All said and done as fans we have little or no say in what happens and simply have to get behind the team and give them our support, all i’m saying is don’t get overly excited and don’t over expect as you could end up disappointed.

[Bluemike]

Andy you make some good points but i think i am right in saying you were keen on Jack Ross ? The step up from the level he was performing at is far greater than that of Hursts which is why Ross has jumped at the chance of a League One job which is massively paid and one which should really see Sunderland romp it with their new found investment, he is no fool.

[charlton837]

I’m buzzing for next season. I can’t wait as I think it will be nice to see something a little different.

I’m not asking for total football, just a bit of intent would be welcomed. Also based on an earlier comment if I had the choice between Bruce or hurst I would choose hurst without any hesitation whatsoever. Bruce is another of the old guard and let’s face it given the squad he had this year it’s a disgrace they didn’t get promoted so I wouldn’t even say he’s done a good job

[Tangfastic]

I think it is pretty stupid for anyone to base an opinion on One game but again this is Town fans through and through. Sixty two bloody games they have played, more than anyone else in the country, favourites for the drop and nearly went up !!! I think some need to get their heads tested. I for one will welcome him to Portman Road but maybe this is why we struggle to attract anyone to our club these days, hound out one good manager and then jusmp straight on the next one who isn't even here yet, reading this I would not bother, clearly some will say lighten up it's all tongue in cheek but it isn't cus this is the type off bullcrap I hear week in week out up and down the country, the usual suspects will no doubt want him gone before anyone else, it's how they work whether it be Hurst, Sherwood or whoever, good old Town fans at their best.

I don’t think anyone realistically can grade Hurst on a one-off game... there was a lot of tongue in cheek towards him regarding the Final, especially on this site. It was a bit of a weird situation.... if Hurst pulls of a win it could complicate things further in what is already an over-drawn saga. If he lost, we’re backing a loser, however unfair that is to say. Hurst has genuinely punched above his weight last season, so if we get him then I’d hope he could do the same thing for Town

Outside Hurst or Ross, I can’t see anyone we could realistically get who I would want.
If we get Hurst, I’m happy. I wouldn’t expect expansive or tippy-tappy football, but I’d hope he would bring something fresh and could squeeze out something extra from the players.

This recruitment campaign seems a bit unreal and a chance to pick anyone or a style of football to your desire. It looks like we’re coming to the end game after 60 + days where we’re going to have to face reality and stop playing Fantasy Manager. I think we need to get our feet back on the ground and not expect miracles, just improvements.

[derick_ipsw]

A lot of very good posts on here past few days and it’s great to read the differing views.

Certainly does make for a very interesting 18/19 season and looking at how all these other managers are going to perform.

I do agree with you Mike regarding the mentality of being annoyed that Jack Ross didn’t sign and that he’d have been a better choice for ITFC over Hurst. There is no doubt Jack is a good manager but comparing him to Hurst who could still potentially get the Shrews out of League One is a bit strange. Unless of course some fans are basing their views on the interview on St Mirren TV.

Regardless of that, I got 150/1 with a local betting shop for Jack Ross to do the double promotion job, 18/19 & 19/20 seasons. Either auto or play-offs in both seasons. Put £100 on it. Was scrap copper money. Don’t tell the tax-man!

Marko, I am not annoyed that Jack Ross didnt sign up or that he would be better for ITFC than Paul Hurst, quite the opposite in fact, I much prefer Hurst and am not really getting all the hype nonsense surrounding Ross.

Sorry, you prefer a loser to a winner?

[rossi]

well having watched all 4 league 1 play off semis, and the final, I have to say that I would take Warne over Hurst as manager every day of the week.

[Bluemike]

A lot of very good posts on here past few days and it’s great to read the differing views.

Certainly does make for a very interesting 18/19 season and looking at how all these other managers are going to perform.

I do agree with you Mike regarding the mentality of being annoyed that Jack Ross didn’t sign and that he’d have been a better choice for ITFC over Hurst. There is no doubt Jack is a good manager but comparing him to Hurst who could still potentially get the Shrews out of League One is a bit strange. Unless of course some fans are basing their views on the interview on St Mirren TV.

Regardless of that, I got 150/1 with a local betting shop for Jack Ross to do the double promotion job, 18/19 & 19/20 seasons. Either auto or play-offs in both seasons. Put £100 on it. Was scrap copper money. Don’t tell the tax-man!

Marko, I am not annoyed that Jack Ross didnt sign up or that he would be better for ITFC than Paul Hurst, quite the opposite in fact, I much prefer Hurst and am not really getting all the hype nonsense surrounding Ross.

Sorry, you prefer a loser to a winner?

You are basing it on One game, that is ridiculous, Hurst has a greater win ration than Ross so no I am preferring a winner.

[Bluemike]

well having watched all 4 league 1 play off semis, and the final, I have to say that I would take Warne over Hurst as manager every day of the week.

It's all about budgets etc though Gary, if Hurst had what Warne or virtually anyone else in the League One had he would probably have won it.

[herforder]

Agree that the Cship is a hard, brutal, league. The most recent example of a club making an astute decision to appoint a realtively unknown manager, with no previous ‘foreign’ experience, is Huddersfield. Operating initially on a similar budget to ours, Wagner’s achievements at both getting promoted, and staying in the PL, perhaps illustrate that there’s no ‘template’ manager, guaranteed to bring success. Sean Dyche at Burnley is a similar success story. Both clubs took risks; as would appointing PH.

But as much as his coaching and managerial qualities, it’s also about how good an all round fit he would be; unifying club and supporters, getting ITFC into his blood, dealing the with the local media and, critically, getting the whole playing and coaching staffs on side and working towards clear, realistic, objectives. If media reports are accurate, ME appears to believe that Hurst is that fit for us. He’s waited to potentially get his man - and, if he accepts, Hurst will have done his own due diligence and know the gig he’s walking in to. A fresh start, which i’m more than happy to buy in to - there’s been far to much time and effort given over to pessimism and negativity!

[Bluemike]

Agree Herforder, some were up in arms at the prospect of Hurst being poached from under our noses by the likes of Derby or Barnsley etc but now there is the very real possibility he may just be coming here the negativity is already starting, but this is what I was alluding to in previous posts, the same old names will be the first to moan about the new boss whoever it may be and lo and behold.......

[marko69]

some were up in arms at the prospect of Hurst being poached from under our noses by the likes of Derby or Barnsley etc but now there is the very real possibility he may just be coming here the negativity is already starting...

Take it you are speaking of the opposite ends of the fanbase here? These aren't the same people who were worried about poaching that are now negative? Sorry for being thick but that'd be crazy.

If you are indeed talking about the opposite ends of the fanbase....... then that's just the fanbase really. Every club in the world is exactly the same.

[rossi]

well having watched all 4 league 1 play off semis, and the final, I have to say that I would take Warne over Hurst as manager every day of the week.

It's all about budgets etc though Gary, if Hurst had what Warne or virtually anyone else in the League One had he would probably have won it.

That might well be the case, Mike - I guess we'll never know. I was just referring to the way the teams were set up and the general style of play - I though Shrewsbury were very one-dimensional.

I hope that - whoever gets the job - the appointment will be made soon - I still do not think that Hurst is a cast iron guarantee for the job.

[Bluemike]

No Marko, I am actually not, it is the same goons, I think they must be on a wind up, like Ricco says I need to stay off other places cus it does my head in.

[Marvinbay1973]

We don't know the level of success any manager will achieve so we can't really decide any one of the candidates is a bad choice until it is proven by results.
I like the idea of Hurst because he is young and up and coming and it would be a refreshing change after appointing bigger names previously.

All I know is whoever gets it will need time and we need to be behind them and the team.

[marko69]

No Marko, I am actually not, it is the same goons, I think they must be on a wind up, like Ricco says I need to stay off other places cus it does my head in.

Really? Aye well, I wouldn’t rise to that Shyte....., that’s just out and out trolling.

[Steve and Jo]

I thought most on here wanted a young, fresh up and coming manager?

Seems mixed now with some wanting a well established, experienced manager. In that case we just ousted one of the best managers you could class in that category.

Ideally we want another Sir Bobby, young, fresh, full of ideas who will be given the chance to improve the team. A young manager to press his name, style and tactics onto a team that's willing to play their hearts out. Ooh wait maybe Hurst might be somebody who maybe could become closest we have had to the legend.

If Paul Hurst becomes quarter of what Sir Bobby was here then i think we would settle for that. Give him a chance hes not even in the doors yet and some seem to be ousting him. Not saying he will ever become close to Sir Bobby, chances are he wont but prepared to give him fair crack at the whip.

Been reading these 30 odd pages and been laughing, sighing, disbelieving lots. Agreeing with lots also been great entertainment though.

[Bluemike]

well having watched all 4 league 1 play off semis, and the final, I have to say that I would take Warne over Hurst as manager every day of the week.

It's all about budgets etc though Gary, if Hurst had what Warne or virtually anyone else in the League One had he would probably have won it.

That might well be the case, Mike - I guess we'll never know. I was just referring to the way the teams were set up and the general style of play - I though Shrewsbury were very one-dimensional.

I hope that - whoever gets the job - the appointment will be made soon - I still do not think that Hurst is a cast iron guarantee for the job.

Reading the comments of the Shrewsbury fans they agree with you regarding yesterday's performance, many stating they didnt turn up and it was a game too far but what is also evident is that it was not a typical performance from them. I watched them against Man City and they played some great stuff that day. I think PH is far from one dimensional most of the time, bloody hope so anyway.

[herforder]

Well, once contracts are signed we can go forward. The future may be uncertain and unpredictable, but sure as hell it won’t be boring!

But, as of today, no contracts have been signed, and we continue to wait, wonder and hope. Get this over the line, Marcus.

One thing i’m fairly confident about is that Hurst is probably better equipped to operate under ME’s ownership, and levels of investment etc, than any of the ex-PL options, whose experiences of tight budgets and reliance on youth, developing average players and use of loans and freebies will have been very distant memories. Probably why Lampard didn’t fancy us as a challenge, whereby Derby gives him greater insurance against failing. Horses for courses.

[number 9]

Well, once contracts are signed we can go forward. The future may be uncertain and unpredictable, but sure as hell it won’t be boring!

But, as of today, no contracts have been signed, and we continue to wait, wonder and hope. Get this over the line, Marcus.

One thing i’m fairly confident about is that Hurst is probably better equipped to operate under ME’s ownership, and levels of investment etc, than any of the ex-PL options, whose experiences of tight budgets and reliance on youth, developing average players and use of loans and freebies will have been very distant memories. Probably why Lampard didn’t fancy us as a challenge, whereby Derby gives him greater insurance against failing. Horses for courses.

Yep, agree with that. It definitely won't be boring, as you say...which is why most of us wanted MM gone. It quite possibly could be a very difficult first year, and I'm sure the Doomsdayers will be vocal. Zidane would have trouble being successful at Ipswich with ME's budget! I still think the right manager will be able to enforce a more attacking style of football. We may not get promoted any time soon, but I'm sure if we're scoring goals and developing our youth it will eventually pay off.

I'm really looking forward to a new chapter in the history of ITFC. COYB!!!!!!!

[Bluemike]

Same 9, I am too.

[K L Blue]

Guy's can we please remember the play-off final was not only Shrewbury's 2nd appearance at Wembley(any manager that gets to Wembley twice in a season must have something about him)

But it also was their SIXTY FIRST game of the season, no wonder they looked knackered in extra time in a very hot Wembley stadium.


Lets face it, Hurst will do a job with us, or get found out, personally I think he'll do the job.

lets not down anyone before their even appointed please. Give whoever it is a chance!

[marko69]

Can I just say......, in my opinion...... the term developing youth MUST tie in with a real goal for promotion. Because any real prospects are off to bench warm. Yes, Ok the cash is welcome...... but hopefully the ITFC youth development system can see the club challenge the top 6, and so keep, and use the youth developed.

First job Mr Hurst (if appointed) ——-> 12 Ryan Frasers please.

[rossi]

yes Mike, but that was just ONE game also. Don't get me wrong, if Hurst is appointed I will give him my full support (same as I will for whoever gets the job) but i do not for one minute think he's the messiah that some proclaim him to be.

[derick_ipsw]

yes Mike, but that was just ONE game also. Don't get me wrong, if Hurst is appointed I will give him my full support (same as I will for whoever gets the job) but i do not for one minute think he's the messiah that some proclaim him to be.

Spot on well said. He has not really done f*ck all to be fair. So I don't know what all the hype is about. If was not for Blue Mike banging on and on about him this thread would be 20 pages less.

[Ricco]

Spot on well said. He has not really done f*ck all to be fair. So I don't know what all the hype is about. If was not for Blue Mike banging on and on about him this thread would be 20 pages less.

Jeez dude, relax. We don't know who the next manager will be yet. What exactly had Sir Alf or Sir Bobby done before they came to Ipswich?

Have a look at the poll, there's more people on here than Bluemike that regard him as very credible, and to say he has done nothing is absurd, some people are talking like they play rugby or something in League One, yes it's not Championship standard, but I bet a few of those teams could take points from us. Taking minnows from relegation certs up to third place in one season with no money is not to be sniffed at. League One has plenty of big teams in, Shrewsbury finished above Charlton, Portsmouth, Bradford, Blackpool, only missing out on promotion to Blackburn and Wigan? Well it's no guarantee of success at Town, but I'm afraid very few people would deny that that's impressive.

[Steve and Jo]

yes Mike, but that was just ONE game also. Don't get me wrong, if Hurst is appointed I will give him my full support (same as I will for whoever gets the job) but i do not for one minute think he's the messiah that some proclaim him to be.

Spot on well said. He has not really done f*ck all to be fair. So I don't know what all the hype is about. If was not for Blue Mike banging on and on about him this thread would be 20 pages less.

Hell hes only 43, give him a chance.

What is wrong here? What did you achieve Derick by age of 43?

Yes hes a gamble, yes he is young, yes basically in all honestly Ipswich is a stepping stone, make or break time. "If" Paul is appointed i will give him a fair chance. who else is out there? Every name who's been mentioned people been been groaning about. From Lampard to Ross, from Tim Sherwood to Alan Pardew.

Ipswich got to appoint somebody, hope whoever they appoint the fans will give that person a chance

[Bluemike]

You wont please some whoever we appoint, perpetual moaners that come up with nothing of any substance as a possible alternative so as not to be wrong some time down the line.

[marko69]

.......perpetual moaners that come up with nothing of any substance as a possible alternative so as not to be wrong some time down the line.

You been seeing my wife ya bawbag!