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Numbskulls should be ashamed - Klugs 1st interview.

Post by Bluemike » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:31 pm

Blues caretaker-boss Bryan Klug says manager Mick McCarthy needing to be escorted to the team coach, as happened at Brentford following the game last Saturday, was “totally wrong” and is “not the club I know”. Klug, who is in charge of the Blues for the final four games of the season, hopes the rift between fans and club which he says has even impacted on academy recruitment begins to be healed during his short spell at the helm.

McCarthy, who departed on Tuesday after the 1-0 victory over Barnsley, was subjected to greater levels of abuse than at previous games by sections of the away support at Griffin Park, leading to widespread criticism from other supporters, even among some of those similarly happy to see him departing.

A number of the former boss's detractors waited for him at the end to continue to make their thoughts known as the squad and staff prepared to return to Suffolk and he was escorted to the coach by Bees staff.

Speaking at his lunchtime press conference, Klug wasn’t keen to talk in too much depth about the schism between the former boss and the club’s support but was evidently disappointed by the treatment meted out to McCarthy.

“I’m really not make any comment on that,” he said. “I can’t do anything about that. I want everybody thinking about being positive really.

“There are certain things that have happened, it’s totally wrong that a manager of Ipswich Town has to be escorted [out of the ground].

“Whatever’s gone on that’s prompted me having to be here today. That should never, ever happen, that’s not the club I know, it’s not the people I know. That’s all I really want to say about it.

“The only other thing to say is, ‘Can we be positive now? Can we please be positive?’. I can’t stress that enough.

“I was speaking to the lads and said Portman Road has become a very difficult place to win and credit to you all for getting a victory on Tuesday, so really I don’t want to dwell on it.”

Reflecting further on the gulf between club and fans which has opened up this season, he added: “It’s really sad, it’s really concerning. I’m not going to go into any detail, but that’s the past, hopefully we can put all that behind us and all enjoy what is a great football club.

“I live in the town, I’ve lived in the town for 40 years now, since I came down here in 1977, so I know what the club means to everybody and it breaks your heart to hear people... even at academy level it’s started to affect our recruitment and that’s never happened before.

“But that’s the past, I just hope people come down and enjoy, which is what it’s about, isn’t it? It’s supposed to be enjoyed.

“If nothing else, if we lose all four games you guys will be all over me, I know that, but if at the end of this month I can see that something’s started to knit back together then that will be a success for me.”

Klug says contrary to some claims McCarthy was very good with the club’s academy players and on occasion gave them their chance earlier than he anticipated.

“I actually came back from Tottenham a few months before Mick came in and I can remember the first meeting with him, talking about the young players and six years ago we didn’t really have a lot that were going to be able to help him,” the 57-year-old recalled.

“But over a number of years I’ve toiled with the rest of my staff trying to improve that situation, and that’s ongoing obviously, and he’s been absolutely brilliant with the players. I think the record of actually giving players opportunities is second to none.

“I think we’re right up there in the Championship with minutes for U23 players, sometimes obviously through circumstances.

“From my point of view I only want them to go in when they’re good enough and they’re going to stay in there and improve the team.

“He’s helped me develop those players and has been very supportive of the programme that we’re putting together to try and ensure we get very good young players.”
I hope the morons are happy in the knowledge that they are even affecting the academy recruitment, f**king pricks, it goes without saying it will harm far more than MM, been saying it for months and I am glad Bryan Klug has said it too, sections of our support are as much to blame as MM with their vile behaviour for the level things have sunk to, Numbskulls is being kind, and people say they can understand the singing of anti songs during games FFS, fools with no common sense.

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Post by number 9 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:46 pm

It's ridiculous for a manager or players to need a police escort to avoid belligerent home fans!

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Post by Watership Down » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:03 pm

There has been lean times at Ipswich before and it was never as bad as what has been reported here. How long before those belligerent supporters turn on whoever comes in. If you don't like the product don't pay to see it.

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:05 pm

They will be the first ones to turn again trust me.

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Post by Chambo's Fist Pump » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:32 pm

While I don't condone their vile behaviour - Mick has bought much of that on himself.

Telling us to f*ck off after taking the Lead at Norwich and having a pop at us (who essentially pay his wages) at every opportunity in pre and post match interviews didn't go down well at all and left a very bitter taste in my mouth.

He can't slag us off and expect to get away with it, we're a cool and calm bunch of supporters but we all have a breaking point.

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:19 pm

Chicken & Egg comes to mind however McCarthy should have risen above it and even more important Evans should have voiced his support or sacked him when he first turned on the fans. Whilst I don’t like some of McCarthys behaviours or tactics I think he’s allowed himself to become goaded by the bad fans and simply lost his way and his focus.
When fans turn against their clubs the only way is down as players get to a stage where they simply don’t want to play, especially at home and results deteriorate, which is exactly what I think has happened at Portman Road this season.
It’s going to take a very special manager to turn this around and I think many fans are underestimating how challenging this will be.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:40 am

Chambo's Fist Pump wrote:While I don't condone their vile behaviour - Mick has bought much of that on himself.

Telling us to f*ck off after taking the Lead at Norwich and having a pop at us (who essentially pay his wages) at every opportunity in pre and post match interviews didn't go down well at all and left a very bitter taste in my mouth.

He can't slag us off and expect to get away with it, we're a cool and calm bunch of supporters but we all have a breaking point.
Adam that is correct in that we ALL have a breaking point, unfortunately Mick reached his at Norwich.

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Post by charlton837 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:19 am

Whilst a number of people have been in the wrong (fans, mick himself) I blame Evans for not stepping in much sooner and trying to resolve this. He has remained silent for 18 months or so while all around him there has been infighting and a gradual increase of bad feeling. When you leave these things to fester and ingrain themselves it only makes things worse.

It’s all a mess. I hope we can all move on now

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Post by Shed on tour » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:55 am

charlton837 wrote:Whilst a number of people have been in the wrong (fans, mick himself) I blame Evans for not stepping in much sooner and trying to resolve this. He has remained silent for 18 months or so while all around him there has been infighting and a gradual increase of bad feeling. When you leave these things to fester and ingrain themselves it only makes things worse.

It’s all a mess. I hope we can all move on now
Agreed. Unfortunately though I can still see this simmering below the surface even when the new manager comes in, if things go tits up there will be those saying we should never had got rid of Mick and if it goes the other way the Mick outers will be saying we told you we should have got rid of Mick sooner.

One thing for sure whoever gets the job has got one hell of a job on their hands in trying to improve things on the pitch as well as getting all the fans back onside. As for Evans, certainly the way he let things develop did not help the situation and I find it hard to believe he would let the same thing happen in regards to other parts of the Marcus Evans group.

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Post by Tangfastic » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:14 am

Sad that the numbskull element have made this an ugly end... however, this has been slowly bubbling over for some time now and it’s not just numbskulls who are to blame. The numbskulls might make all the noise, but the empty seats and fans quietly losing interest make a far greater noise.

Not even sure why Mick appeared to want a new contract. If he’s as ambitious as he’s claimed, then why wish to stay on? It would be the same next year, but with more apathy and discontent. It just seems he was happy with a good salary, low expectations based on available resources, players he got on well with and an owner who left him alone. The fans didn’t seem part of it... we just needed to play along with him and be grateful he was here.

The numbskulls are only a small part of it but , from the outside, our fans look like a bunch of unappreciative, unrealistic knob heads. MM has actually left with his CV intact and looking the wronged party. Not sure he’s too unhappy with that.

If the numbskulls hated Mick so much and wanted to hurt him... it’s backfired as he’s now got a great deal of sympathy ( and sympathetic press) in the football world. It should have been dealt with by Evans sooner as a natural conclusion, whereby all parties could have shook hands without the bitterness.

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Post by rossi » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:28 pm

Chambo's Fist Pump wrote:While I don't condone their vile behaviour - Mick has bought much of that on himself.

Telling us to f*ck off after taking the Lead at Norwich and having a pop at us (who essentially pay his wages) at every opportunity in pre and post match interviews didn't go down well at all and left a very bitter taste in my mouth.

He can't slag us off and expect to get away with it, we're a cool and calm bunch of supporters but we all have a breaking point.
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Post by marko69 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:42 pm

I don’t know why but this “numbskulls” word has been making me think of the white chocolate and strawberry skull sweets from the 80s. I’m going to have to find those online and purchase a few boxes.

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Post by Tangfastic » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:48 pm

marko69 wrote:I don’t know why but this “numbskulls” word has been making me think of the white chocolate and raspberry skull sweets from the 80s. I’m going to have to find those online and purchase a few boxes.
It’s the Mick legacy ... I’ve never used the words ‘ numbskull’, ‘different class’ , ‘ bonkers’ , ‘proper blokes’ , etc before. .... if Micks style of football was as colourful as his language we’d have asked for a 10 year extension.

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Post by bluejacko » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:13 pm

Do you all really think that a couple of hundred people chanting ‘MM your footie is sh1t’ is the reason that the academy recruitment is down?
I would hazard a guess that parents are weighing up the running of the club and basing their decision on that.

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:18 pm

Klug must be a liar too then.

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Post by bluejacko » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:49 pm

Bluemike wrote:Klug must be a liar too then.
Nope but if you read his interview properly it has been a gradual thing not just lately.
Recruitment for the academy has not just been lately has it?
If the thousands that have stayed away are parents of these kids it isn’t surprising they are not keen at the moment.

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Post by Watership Down » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:27 pm

I would have thought youngsters they had a better chance of succeeding if the enrollment was down in the youth department

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