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Tough Midweek Fixture?

Town Win
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Boro Win
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Draw
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19%
 
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Ipswich Town vs Middlesbrough Preview & Matchday Thread

Post by Frosty » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:05 am

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Tuesday 2nd October 2018 – 19:45


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Pre Match Thoughts - Mike



Progress Or Not ?


In the grand scheme of things a draw at Birmingham after being Two goals ahead doesn't seem like much to crow about, however are there positives to take from it ? Finally picking up an away point, scoring Two goals and climbing another place up the table are small crumbs of comfort but is it progress or should the alarm bells be ringing even louder ? Some see it as another step to sure fire relegation while others see it as a decent effort and a step in the right direction. For me it will only be a good point if we win win at home to Middlesbrough Tuesday evening, at the time I felt it was Two points lost and nothing has changed as far as that goes but the point will become even more valuable if we back it up with Three against Boro.

I definitely think there were positives to take from the game, the performance of Dean gerken was excellent and confirms Paul Hurst was right to switch keepers, Gerks has been superb since coming back into the team and the gloves are now his to be lost. The efforts of Trevoh Chalobah impressed me too, so often he has been hot and cold with his passing especially suspect but this time he was very impressive, as was the first half showing of Matt Pennington, it's just a shame he blotted his copybook with the Red card. The player that really pleased me though was Kayden Jackson, so often left to plough a lone furrow the young striker got through a mountain of work, often isolated and unsupported he gave it his all and for me had his best game in a Town shirt, with injuries again biting hard he is now a crucial player for us and he needs to produce if we are to score sufficient goals to win points.


Paul Hurst


Opinion is very much divided where Paul Hurst is concerned, most still seem prepared to give him time while acknowledging things need to improve and soon, while others are already sticking the knife and twisting it, claiming he is out of his depth etc, I get some didn't want him in the first place but is it really good reason to already be hurling abuse in his direction ? I am sure he didn't take the job with the intention of things failing or that he wanted to do a poor job, quite the opposite in fact, the fact is he is our manager and needs our support, comments such as those I have read on here in the last day or so are way OTT and definitely out of order, it may not be going to plan right now but being branded " a useles c**t" goes way overboard in my book.

It is really quite amusing that some who were part of the hounding out of Mick McCarthy and the loudest voices while he was in office are now the self same fans using Micks relative success here as a yardstick to beat Paul Hurst with, quite rich really and a bit ignorant, very much a case of double standards, but then again I stated at the time of PH's appointment it would be the self same fans that turned on Mick first that would turn on Paul Hurst first, it was hardly rocket science because it's what they do and it will be what they do with the next manager and the next and the next.


Please Let This Be It


I have no idea why but not only do I not rate Middlesbrough but I feel this is going to be our first win of the season, mad I may be but I am very hopeful of Three points in this one. Yes they currently sit in Third place just a point off top spot but I feel they will do well to maintain that position. Away from home they have already failed to win at Norwich, Millwall & Hull who are no great shakes so they do not appear to be great travellers, Brit Assombalonga is clearly the danger man and will need to be watched while Johnny Howson & Stewart Downing have pedigree in Midfield, most neutrals will have this down as an away banker but for me this is where we could well break our winless run and buy the boss some much needed time. COYB'S.





The Opposition - Middlesbrough



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The club turned professional in 1889, but reverted to amateur status in 1892. They turned professional permanently in 1899 and after three seasons, they won promotion to the First Division, where they would remain for the next 22 years.

In 1903, the club moved to Ayresome Park, their home for the next 92 years.

Over the next few years, their form fluctuated greatly, rising to sixth in 1907–08 before dropping to seventeenth two seasons later. The club rose to their highest league finish to date, third, in 1913–14. The First World War soon intervened and football was suspended. Before league football resumed, Middlesbrough won the Northern Victory League, but the team were unable to maintain their previous form and finished the 1919–20 season in mid-table. They remained in the First Division for the next few seasons, but were relegated in 1923–24 after finishing bottom, ten points adrift of their nearest rivals.

Three seasons later, they won the Division Two title. Their tenure back in the top flight lasted only one season, and the club were relegated. They were promoted at the first attempt in 1928–29, winning another Second Division title. The club remained in the First Division until 1954.

Middlesbrough climbed to fourth in the last full season before the Second World War and were expected to challenge for the title next season, but the war intervened. After the war, the club was unable to recover the form of the previous seasons and hovered around mid-table and exited in the early rounds of the FA Cup. Soon afterwards the team began to falter, eventually suffering relegation in 1953–54. This was the start of a 20-year spell outside the top division.

Over that period, Middlesbrough maintained reasonable progress in the Second Division but were never serious contenders for promotion. After a fourth place finish in 1962–63, the club endured a steady decline and were relegated to the Third Division for the first time in their history in 1966.

New manager Stan Anderson returned the club to the second flight at the first attempt. Middlesbrough would not finish below ninth during the next eight seasons. By 1974, Jack Charlton had taken over as manager and guided the team back to the top flight.

The club experienced severe financial difficulties during the mid-1980s. In the 1984–85 season. In April 1986 the club had to borrow £30,000 from the PFA to pay wages. The final game of the season saw Middlesbrough relegated to the Third Division once more. That summer, the club called in the Provisional Liquidator and shortly afterwards, the club was wound up and the gates to Ayresome Park were padlocked. Without the £350,000 capital required for Football League registration, a new rule, it seemed inevitable that the club would fold permanently. However, Steve Gibson, a member of the board at the time, brought together a consortium and with ten minutes to spare before the deadline, they completed their registration with the Football League for the 1986–87 season. Following the registration came both a change of club crest and a change of the official company name to Middlesbrough Football and Athletic Club (1986) Ltd.

Over the next two seasons, Middlesbrough gained successive promotions into Division Two and then into Division One. The next season though, they came straight back down to Division Two. Despite constant promotion and relegation, Middlesbrough were founding members of the FA Premier League for the 1992–93 season.

The 1996–97 season was compounded by a deduction of three points imposed just after Christmas, as punishment for the club's failure to fulfil a fixture against Blackburn, which ultimately resulted in relegation. At the same time, the club managed to reach both the League and FA Cup finals for the first time, but lost out in both. Despite being in the second tier they were again runners up in the League Cup final the next year.

Middlesbrough were promoted back to the Premiership at the first attempt in 1998. They continued to stay secure in mid-table the following season.
Bryan Robson left the club before the start of 2001–02 season, having served as manager for 7 years, and was replaced by Manchester United assistant coach Steve McClaren. The following seasons saw Premiership security maintained as Middlesbrough slowly improved and were seen as a tough side to beat when playing at the Riverside Stadium. During McClaren's reign, Middlesbrough achieved their highest Premier league placing of 7th in the 2004–05 season.

The 2003–04 season was the most successful in the club's history as they finally won a major trophy after beating Bolton in the League Cup final.

Middlesbrough reached the 2006 UEFA Cup Final in Eindhoven, following two comebacks in the rounds preceding it, but lost to Sevilla. Following the cup final, McClaren left to head up the England team, and captain Gareth Southgate took over, despite not having the coaching qualifications, but he was allowed to continue after receiving special dispensation. Southgate's first two seasons saw the club finish in 12th and 13th places. He oversaw the club reaching the quarter finals of the FA Cup for three seasons, but the club was relegated to the Football League Championship on the last day of the 2008–09 season.

Despite starting the 2010–11 campaign as promotion favourites, the club endured a disappointing start to the season securing only 1-point in 5 away games. Having slipped to 20th in the Championship following a home defeat to rivals Leeds, Gordon Strachan resigned on 18 October. A week later, Tony Mowbray was confirmed as the new manager. Having staved off the threat of relegation, Mowbray successfully transformed Boro's fortunes, eventually guiding them to a top-half finish.

Following a poor run of form of 2 wins in 12 games in the 2013–14 campaign, on 21 October 2013, nearly 3 years after his arrival, Tony Mowbray left the club with immediate effect. Aitor Karanka, a former Spanish defender and assistant coach at Real Madrid became the new Middlesbrough manager on 13 November 2013, signing a two-year contract. He became the first non-British manager at the club.

Boro had a good 2014/15 season finishing in 4th place. After beating Brentford in the playoff semi-finals they meet Norwich in the Championship promotion final …. Sadly the budgies coming out on top on the day.

The next season, Middlesbrough were promoted back to the Premier League after finishing second in the Championship in 2015–16, drawing 1–1 with Brighton & Hove Albion on the final day of the season.

Last season Boro struggled in the EPL, only managing 5 wins which ultimately saw them relegated back to the Championship after only one season.

The club appointed former Leeds United manager Garry Monk as manager in the off-season. Expectations at the club were high, having spent close to £50 million in the transfer window on player purchases, in order to mount an immediate promotion challenge back to the Premier League. Such a promotion challenge did not materialise under Monk's management, as on 23 December 2017, it was announced that Monk had left the club, with Middlesbrough ninth in the Championship and underachieving. They appointed Tony Pulis as manager three days later on Boxing Day, who himself had been sacked by West Bromwich Albion a month earlier.

Last season Boro finished in 5th place but failed in their promotion bid at the Play Off’s.




The Manager – Tony Pulis



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Past Match - Video Highlights - Trev




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Form Guide




Ipswich Last 5 Matches currently in 22nd place with 6 points



2 Sep Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Norwich City


15 Sep Hull City 2 - 0 Ipswich Town


18 Sep Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Brentford


22 Sep Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Bolton


29 Sep Birmingham City 2 - 2 Ipswich Town






Middlesbrough Last 5 Matches currently in 3rd place with 19 points




31 Aug Leeds Utd 0 - 0 Middlesbrough


15 Sep Norwich City 1 - 0 Middlesbrough


19 Sep Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Bolton


22 Sep Middlesbrough 0 - 0 Swansea City


29 Sep Hull City 1 - 1 Middlesbrough






Match Referee – Andrew Madley


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IPSWICH TOWN 1 MIDDLESBROUGH 1

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Post by Charnwood » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:09 am

Middlesbrough may be sitting nicely in the table but that’s more down to their excellent start than current form which isn’t much better than ours.

We’ve only lost one game in September which is hard to believe, Middlesbrough have lost one too at Norwich who we drew against, their only better result was a home win v Bolton who held us to a draw.

Whilst our leagues positions are poles apart our form isn’t and I think we’ll squeeze a point out of the game.

Prediction: Town 1-1 Boro

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Post by charlton837 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:51 am

Middlesbrough are a strong team, with Pulis im imagining they don't come away from home to entertain people so could be a bit of a bore. I think we will need to do well in order to keep them at bay though as they have some very experienced players in their ranks, Assomobolonga could cause our defence issues.

I am keeping everything crossed for a win but I think a draw/narrow defeat is more likely

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Post by Tangfastic » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:19 am

I can only think the law of averages means we have to win at some stage.... pretty much all narrow defeats or draws so far, so with all the fine margins surely we must be close to a win.

I’d take a draw, though. :)

And wrap Kayden Jackson up in cotton wool, because he’s our only striker. Apart from Freddie.

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Post by Dubai Blue » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:29 am

That's true and Freddie was really unlucky not to get on the scoresheet on Saturday. He may not be our saviour but he is one of our more experienced players in the Champ and might be good enough for now.

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Post by Frosty » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:36 am

outside of picking that Middlesbrough will probably wear red tommorrow night, I have sorta given up trying to guess when we might get our first win.

Probably in any other recent season, we would settle for a draw with these guys, however, every game is now so important that theory seems incorrect at the moment.

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Post by AzzurroMark » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:47 am

To hell with it, that elusive first win has got to come soon, surely?
1-0 to the Tractor boys!
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Post by Marvinbay1973 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:03 pm

Hopefully we can take some positives from Saturday and push on for the first win.
It may be all that is required to raise the confidence in the team.
Draw most likely though 1-1

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Post by marko69 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:44 pm

Dubai Blue wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:29 am
That's true and Freddie was really unlucky not to get on the scoresheet on Saturday. He may not be our saviour but he is one of our more experienced players in the Champ and might be good enough for now.
Quite refreshing to read this, DB. Could we be the only two on the board who still have a smidgen of faith in the wee guy? Might be a coincidence though that with you in Dubai, and me watching Hibs every week, ..... We could be the only two who don't see him for the full 90! :lol:

A win v Boro with Sears scoring a couple, or just the winner, would be superb.

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Post by marko69 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:45 pm

Frosty wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:36 am
outside of picking that Middlesbrough will probably wear red tommorrow night......
If they come out in their away gear, then it's all properly fkd.

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Post by marko69 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:01 pm

Excellent preview, very "cutting" in areas, but all very true (in my opinion). There are indeed fans out there (for all clubs) who are the most vocal when things don't go as planned......., but, after 11 competitive games with no wins, he's susceptible to Championship level criticism and, for me, seems to be coping with that relatively well. Press conferences are becoming increasingly more interesting as time goes by....... The guys resolve is clearly in the spotlight. Hoping his optimism can win through and come Octobers end he's speaking about the growing positivity in camp and the continued rise up the table.

Having said all that...... Predicting a 2-0 loss at Portman Road tomorrow night. Pulis' determination to remain top 4 will outweigh Hursts need for a first win. Obviously a point would be decent, (3 even better) ...... But definitely (for the fans) hopefully not the bore 0-0 draw ------ an exciting 0-0 draw please.

Ref caption: freekick outside the box. (overhears conversation between Jackson & Sears)
Jackson: ok, I'll pretend to step over it, but then nick it to the side.......
Sears: Yep, then I'll launch it, top corner, postage stamp......
Ref: Woa Woa Woa....., you want booked for talking Shyte, Fred?

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Post by MasseyFerguson » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:28 pm

I've been disheartened by both the results and the lack of quality we have shown thus far this season.

I just have a feeling about this one. I don't know why but my gut is telling me that we'll get our first win, probably 1-0.

They are sitting pretty in the league at the moment but their recent form has not been good. I really think this is the one that might start the turn around. Fingers crossed!

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Post by JohnnyB » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:15 pm

Town 1 smogmonsters 1

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Post by arana peligrosa » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:20 pm

The Norwich City of the North-East. Voted for a home team win, well a victory has to arrive sooner or later damn it. Could be a laughable reaction from some areas should a win come to pass but seen enough of it (all) to realize it's nothing new.

Ipswich 4 Middlesbrough 1

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Post by marko69 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:34 am

Tony Pulis caption pic:

That's Greggs almost closing. You guys want anything?
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Post by Watership Down » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:24 pm

I still see us winless. Boro are a useful side a bit too much for us at the moment Ipswich 1 Boro 2
Caption Pulis Wow! did you see that arse..... other manager Yep, it's my wife, and I can't wait to get hold of it.

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Post by TODD66 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:43 pm

I assume our chances are even worse with the game live in Sky!!

Just preparing myself for the potential doom and gloom :astroll:

No prediction - just do your best and surprise me lads.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:49 pm

What is he f**king doing !!! Ward and Graham wide instead of Edun and Edwards !!! Just bollocks

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Post by nicscreamer » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:17 pm

We won’t win..... 2-0 to boro I’m afraid to say

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Post by nicscreamer » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:58 pm

Oh joy .... perfect start ... where the hell was skuse off to?

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Post by nicscreamer » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:02 pm

f*ck this is getting embarrassing

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Post by vaalae » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:03 pm

Garrrrrrrrrr! :evil:

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Post by shamm » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:06 pm

Tonight will reflect the real quality gap between 1st division and championship. Really worried about the score!

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Post by AzzurroMark » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:06 pm

AzzurroMark wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:47 am
To hell with it, that elusive first win has got to come soon, surely?
1-0 to the Tractor boys!
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Definitely the latter! This is becoming very depressing!

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Post by Watership Down » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:29 pm

Put Sears on then we can have a good old moan.

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Post by Charnwood » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:30 pm

Just walked in after playing golf and catching up with play on Sky, 0-2 down after 20 mins, what the f*ck is going on?.... surely this can’t be allowed to go on indefinitely?

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Post by nicscreamer » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:32 pm

We have looked very poor and have zero threat going forward. It’s getting close for me to saying enough

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Post by Frosty » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:36 pm

thank God it's halftime, at least we wont concede a goal for a few minutes

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Post by derick_ipsw » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:40 pm

Utter sh*te. 4-4-2 required. Nolan off Graham off . It's embarrassing.

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Post by nicscreamer » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:47 pm

Don’t panic .... sears is coming on 😂

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