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Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
by hallamblue
source EADT today : ( not sure what the * means though as EADT doesn't say )...But a big clear out likely in the summer it seems .

Ipswich Town contracts

Season-long loans
McGuinness, Bennetts

2021
Donacien*, Chambers, Ward, Huws, Judge*, Wilson*, Sears*, Jackson*, Bishop*, Nsiala*, Nydam*, El Mizouni*, Wright, Skuse*, Edwards, Drinan, Przybek*, Folami*, Morris*, Cotter, Clements*, Gibbs*, Andoh*, Z.Brown*, K.Brown*, Hughes*

2022
Downes*, Norwood*, Lankester*, Kenlock*, Ndaba*, Crowe*, Smith*, Simpson*, Crane*, Holy, Nolan, Cornell*, Hawkins*, McGavin*, Chirewa*

2023
Vincent-Young*, Dobra*

2024
Woolfenden*, Dozzell*

EDIT : Ooops , the thread title looks almost painful doesn't it :lol: , can that be altered please by some kind admin body . ta x

Re: Players contractsituation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:15 pm
by Tangfastic
hallamblue wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
source EADT today : ( not sure what the * means though as EADT doesn't say )...But a big clear out likely in the summer it seems .

Ipswich Town contracts

Season-long loans
McGuinness, Bennetts

2021
Donacien*, Chambers, Ward, Huws, Judge*, Wilson*, Sears*, Jackson*, Bishop*, Nsiala*, Nydam*, El Mizouni*, Wright, Skuse*, Edwards, Drinan, Przybek*, Folami*, Morris*, Cotter, Clements*, Gibbs*, Andoh*, Z.Brown*, K.Brown*, Hughes*

2022
Downes*, Norwood*, Lankester*, Kenlock*, Ndaba*, Crowe*, Smith*, Simpson*, Crane*, Holy, Nolan, Cornell*, Hawkins*, McGavin*, Chirewa*

2023
Vincent-Young*, Dobra*

2024
Woolfenden*, Dozzell*

EDIT : Ooops , the thread title looks almost painful doesn't it :lol: , can that be altered please by some kind admin body . ta x
The asterisk * means the club has an option to extend the contract by a year.

Out of the 2021 bunch, it’s noticeable that Edwards (who could be considered an asset ) doesn’t have that option and could walk away on a free. There’s a lot there who the club will happily say goodbye.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:44 pm
by Tinytown
hallamblue wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
source EADT today : ( not sure what the * means though as EADT doesn't say )...But a big clear out likely in the summer it seems .

Ipswich Town contracts

Season-long loans
McGuinness, Bennetts

2021
Donacien*, Chambers, Ward, Huws, Judge*, Wilson*, Sears*, Jackson*, Bishop*, Nsiala*, Nydam*, El Mizouni*, Wright, Skuse*, Edwards, Drinan, Przybek*, Folami*, Morris*, Cotter, Clements*, Gibbs*, Andoh*, Z.Brown*, K.Brown*, Hughes*

2022
Downes*, Norwood*, Lankester*, Kenlock*, Ndaba*, Crowe*, Smith*, Simpson*, Crane*, Holy, Nolan, Cornell*, Hawkins*, McGavin*, Chirewa*

2023
Vincent-Young*, Dobra*

2024
Woolfenden*, Dozzell*


The ones in RED i would let go, Chambers could stay as a coach.

Re: Players contractsituation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:16 pm
by hallamblue
tangfastic wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:15 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
source EADT today : ( not sure what the * means though as EADT doesn't say )...But a big clear out likely in the summer it seems .

Ipswich Town contracts

Season-long loans
McGuinness, Bennetts

2021
Donacien*, Chambers, Ward, Huws, Judge*, Wilson*, Sears*, Jackson*, Bishop*, Nsiala*, Nydam*, El Mizouni*, Wright, Skuse*, Edwards, Drinan, Przybek*, Folami*, Morris*, Cotter, Clements*, Gibbs*, Andoh*, Z.Brown*, K.Brown*, Hughes*

2022
Downes*, Norwood*, Lankester*, Kenlock*, Ndaba*, Crowe*, Smith*, Simpson*, Crane*, Holy, Nolan, Cornell*, Hawkins*, McGavin*, Chirewa*

2023
Vincent-Young*, Dobra*

2024
Woolfenden*, Dozzell*

EDIT : Ooops , the thread title looks almost painful doesn't it :lol: , can that be altered please by some kind admin body . ta x
The asterisk * means the club has an option to extend the contract by a year.

Out of the 2021 bunch, it’s noticeable that Edwards (who could be considered an asset ) doesn’t have that option and could walk away on a free. There’s a lot there who the club will happily say goodbye.
Thanks for that Tang 👍..... I can see Town definitely letting quite a few of those players leave , option or no option. This salary cap is going t9 guide Evans/ Lamberts decisi9ns 9n who to keep or offload isn’t it.

I can see Chambers and Skuse finishing their playing careers this season. What happens next wit( either of them is anyone’s guess. Personally I’d keep them at the Club a social and coaching capacity with the young players we have. Both do roles along these lines already I think.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:18 pm
by hallamblue
Tinytown wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:44 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
source EADT today : ( not sure what the * means though as EADT doesn't say )...But a big clear out likely in the summer it seems .

Ipswich Town contracts

Season-long loans
McGuinness, Bennetts

2021
Donacien*, Chambers, Ward, Huws, Judge*, Wilson*, Sears*, Jackson*, Bishop*, Nsiala*, Nydam*, El Mizouni*, Wright, Skuse*, Edwards, Drinan, Przybek*, Folami*, Morris*, Cotter, Clements*, Gibbs*, Andoh*, Z.Brown*, K.Brown*, Hughes*

2022
Downes*, Norwood*, Lankester*, Kenlock*, Ndaba*, Crowe*, Smith*, Simpson*, Crane*, Holy, Nolan, Cornell*, Hawkins*, McGavin*, Chirewa*

2023
Vincent-Young*, Dobra*

2024
Woolfenden*, Dozzell*


The ones in RED i would let go, Chambers could stay as a coach.

I would probably add Nolan and Kenlock to those you have in red

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:32 pm
by Tinytown
But Mr Hallam they still have 18 months left so they won't be going in the summer.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:49 pm
by Tangfastic
If we’re in League One, we really need to offload as many fringe, injury-prone, under-performing senior players as possible. If we’re going to bring in decent senior players on decent wages with the salary cap it’s possible if we trim the senior players and use the under 21’s as backup. In many ways we’re doing that anyway with the injuries.

I wonder what percentage of our player budget is actually fit enough to play? Big chunk of the playing budget is injured and players like Donacien, Huws and Kenlock rarely get a game. When we’re trying to keep within the 2.5 million budget limit, a huge chunk of that isnt even making it on the field.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:59 pm
by Tangfastic
Tinytown wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:32 pm
But Mr Hallam they still have 18 months left so they won't be going in the summer.
That’s an awfully polite post, Tiny. Good to see such manners.

I don’t think it was the smartest move to give Kenlock such a long contract. He’ll be difficult to shift.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:38 pm
by number 9
tangfastic wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:49 pm
If we’re in League One, we really need to offload as many fringe, injury-prone, under-performing senior players as possible.
That's pretty much all of them, don't you think? Maybe not Chambers, but he's on his last legs anyway.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:40 pm
by Ando
tangfastic wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:59 pm
Tinytown wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:32 pm
But Mr Hallam they still have 18 months left so they won't be going in the summer.
That’s an awfully polite post, Tiny. Good to see such manners.

I don’t think it was the smartest move to give Kenlock such a long contract. He’ll be difficult to shift.
Not forgetting the fact Mr Hallem is in fact a female last time I met her👍.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:03 pm
by Tangfastic
Ando wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:40 pm
tangfastic wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:59 pm
Tinytown wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:32 pm
But Mr Hallam they still have 18 months left so they won't be going in the summer.
That’s an awfully polite post, Tiny. Good to see such manners.

I don’t think it was the smartest move to give Kenlock such a long contract. He’ll be difficult to shift.
Not forgetting the fact Mr Hallem is in fact a female last time I met her👍.
When was the last time you met him/her/ add in other pronoun? Gender fluidity is a thing these days.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:51 am
by Ando
I met Liz 18 months ago

Re: Players contractsituation :

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:33 pm
by The Odious Mr Rossi
hallamblue wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:16 pm
tangfastic wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:15 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:08 pm
source EADT today : ( not sure what the * means though as EADT doesn't say )...But a big clear out likely in the summer it seems .

Ipswich Town contracts

Season-long loans
McGuinness, Bennetts

2021
Donacien*, Chambers, Ward, Huws, Judge*, Wilson*, Sears*, Jackson*, Bishop*, Nsiala*, Nydam*, El Mizouni*, Wright, Skuse*, Edwards, Drinan, Przybek*, Folami*, Morris*, Cotter, Clements*, Gibbs*, Andoh*, Z.Brown*, K.Brown*, Hughes*

2022
Downes*, Norwood*, Lankester*, Kenlock*, Ndaba*, Crowe*, Smith*, Simpson*, Crane*, Holy, Nolan, Cornell*, Hawkins*, McGavin*, Chirewa*

2023
Vincent-Young*, Dobra*

2024
Woolfenden*, Dozzell*

EDIT : Ooops , the thread title looks almost painful doesn't it :lol: , can that be altered please by some kind admin body . ta x
The asterisk * means the club has an option to extend the contract by a year.

Out of the 2021 bunch, it’s noticeable that Edwards (who could be considered an asset ) doesn’t have that option and could walk away on a free. There’s a lot there who the club will happily say goodbye.
Thanks for that Tang 👍..... I can see Town definitely letting quite a few of those players leave , option or no option. This salary cap is going t9 guide Evans/ Lamberts decisi9ns 9n who to keep or offload isn’t it.

I can see Chambers and Skuse finishing their playing careers this season. What happens next wit( either of them is anyone’s guess. Personally I’d keep them at the Club a social and coaching capacity with the young players we have. Both do roles along these lines already I think.
Skuse as a coach, Liz? The only time he would be any good as a coach is if the rules of the game changes and there were points to be had for negativity, passing the ball badly backwards and sideways. But come to think of it, we're already pretty good at that so hardly in need of a coach :D

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:14 pm
by hallamblue
Lol yes ok Gary, I get your point. But he has I think got all his badges , and I think he’ll have a lot to offer our kids at the club even if his playing days are over .


And yes Ando we did meet ... blimey was it really 18/12 ago though ???

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:58 am
by Tangfastic
Chambers and Skuse are great pro’s. Certainly take care of themselves considering the number of games they’ve played. And obviously very well respected within the club. So I can see that angle about them being coaches here. The major thing, for me, is they’ve been the most senior players here during one of the worst periods in our history. Not their fault, but begs the question - Do we need something different?
From their side, could they learn more and also different techniques at another club? If they do coach here - will they just be coaching the same things? It’s not as if it’s The Liverpool Boot Room where there was a succession plan based around a very successful winning formula. Ours recent tradition has been that of decline. Something needs to change.

If they do coach here - I hope they’re brought in for the right reasons and not for sentimental reasons. I wouldn’t be against seeing Skuse and Chambers here as part of the coaching or managerial staff - but wouldn’t it be better to get some experience elsewhere first? Maybe at a club which has recent successful coaching history.

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:36 pm
by marko69
tangfastic wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:58 am
...but wouldn’t it be better to get some experience elsewhere first? Maybe at a club which has recent successful coaching history.
Like Hurst @ Shrewsbury? :shock:

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:15 pm
by The Odious Mr Rossi
hallamblue wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:14 pm
Lol yes ok Gary, I get your point. But he has I think got all his badges , and I think he’ll have a lot to offer our kids at the club even if his playing days are over .


And yes Ando we did meet ... blimey was it really 18/12 ago though ???
Ha Ha - I've still got a badge I had when I was a kid as a member of the Tufty Club - maybe I should get a job as a road safety officer :lol:

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:27 pm
by Bluemike
Tufty club :lol: lmfao

Re: Players contract situation :

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:41 pm
by hallamblue
rossi wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:15 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:14 pm
Lol yes ok Gary, I get your point. But he has I think got all his badges , and I think he’ll have a lot to offer our kids at the club even if his playing days are over .


And yes Ando we did meet ... blimey was it really 18/12 ago though ???
Ha Ha - I've still got a badge I had when I was a kid as a member of the Tufty Club - maybe I should get a job as a road safety officer :lol:
Oooo I ALWAYS. Wanted to be in the Tufty Club, but at 33yrs I thought it might be my chance had passed me by ... :lol: