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Has left Sheffield Wednesday. Strange one.

Chansiri is a complete tosser while Moore is a man of integrity, say no more.

SWFC a complete bunch of Tossas and a basket case of a football club.

I REALLY hope they go straight back down. What a vile excuse for a football club and don’t get me started on their arrogant fan base!

Bunch of utter …..( insert your own expletive)

So that's two today Moore gained promotion and ONeill saved Bournmouth and both are out of work.

That's Sheff Wed's going down before they've kicked a ball, in my eyes anyway.

Perhaps O'Neil is on his way there

Likely he knew he wouldn’t get backed this summer financially, aging squad, fans ready to turn on him quickly etc so felt it was right to leave now.

I suspect there are other things going on behind the scenes. Pitiful ownership to force out the manager who got you promoted. I’ve lost any morsel of respect I had for that club. Sorry SWFC fans, but it is what it is.

Their fans were sh*te the whole way through the second half of the season, giving it large and saying they were champions in March, add to that the racist abuse being dished out to Moore was awful, a sh*te house of an owner too, this is why I really wanted Barnsley to stuff them in the PO Final. Hopefully things go tits up for them and the gentleman that is Darren Moore goes on to better things.

Yes, I think Darren Moore is a thoroughly decent bloke and does not deserve this but I wish him well wherever he goes.

I think Darren Moore is a thoroughly decent bloke too but I also think Sheffield Wednesday made a very difficult but right decision for their football club, and who are we really to question it. In my opinion SWFC should have won one if the two automatic promotion places last season quite easily and in the end only made by the skin of their teeth through the play off route. Some of the blame for switching off when they did have to lay with the manager and for me I don’t think he’s up to the Championship and clearly neither do the Clubs Directors.
There are numerous examples where clubs hang onto managers after promotions only to sack them far too late when relegation looms. I’m sure he’ll be back in work soon and will have been substantially rewarded for getting them promoted. I suspect they also have someone lined up to rake over and want the new manager in place before the players return from their summer break and pre season tours.
Running football clubs isn’t an easy business and it’s taking the difficult decisions and getting them right that separates winners from the also rans. Personally if they get the new appointment right I think Wednesday will have improved their chances of staying in the Championship next season and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if this is simply the first stage of the football club being taken over which I think is desperately needed.

Yes, agree with that assessment 100% Charnwood. No one really is doubting the decency of the guy, no doubt a top bloke, integrity in abundance, but the club “chucked it” …… they had it (arguably) sown up, and were lucky in the play-offs. The 2nd leg v Posh does need recognition but more fingers point to the other “Darren” in that one ——>> thought it was done n dusted @ 4-0.
FTR, (and opinion coupled with an Owl buddy): the “chucked it time” coincided with Bannan being out for a fair few weeks. They got a grip when he returned.

Moving forward, Darren Moore wont be short on big offers for his services.

I do get what you guys are saying and part of me agrees with some of it, however, for any team to go the run they did and accrue the points total they did was quite incredible, they were unlucky Two other teams did incredibly well too, the fact they hit a brick wall is down to the players for me, you can't tell me Moore started to suddenly do things differently because I don't buy that at all. I watched the interviews with a couple of the Wednesday players and they said it was down to Moore that they turned it around after they had let him down and that is how I see it. just read their forum and tell me how the bile and insults being thrown at Darren Moore could in any way of helped the guy cus no doubt it was every bit as bad inside the stadium too, he will go on to better things, I just hope those tossers implode.

Bluemike wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:58 am

I do get what you guys are saying and part of me agrees with some of it, however, for any team to go the run they did and accrue the points total they did was quite incredible, they were unlucky Two other teams did incredibly well too, the fact they hit a brick wall is down to the players for me, you can't tell me Moore started to suddenly do things differently because I don't buy that at all. I watched the interviews with a couple of the Wednesday players and they said it was down to Moore that they turned it around after they had let him down and that is how I see it. just read their forum and tell me how the bile and insults being thrown at Darren Moore could in any way of helped the guy cus no doubt it was every bit as bad inside the stadium too, he will go on to better things, I just hope those tossers implode.

Same, i dont buy it either…… why i added the Bannan part. He (by a distance) was their “engine” and he blew a gasket. Unfortunately the buck stops at Demi Moore…… and no matter how well he tried to mould things out of clay to find that formula after Bannan, he failed to create in that time period…….. and they dropped like a stone.

Got to think also that ALL clubs have that delinquent aspect that make them look bad. 25 Hibs fans go fighting with Sevco fans in 2016 yet the 30K in the stadium are ALL tossers. I dont buy into that thinking. Like the Ipswich fans who wanted to set fire to stuff at the training ground? Then in the media, “those ipswich fans are mad eh?”……. No, just those twats!

Well Marko, you ask Hallam what their fans were like when Liz and I came out of their stadium and got engulfed in them, they are absolute tossers tbh, unless by some miracle we happened to bump into the same ones that hurled abuse at Moore.

Bluemike wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:26 am

Well Marko, you ask Hallam what their fans were like when Liz and I came out of their stadium and got engulfed in them, they are absolute tossers tbh, unless by some miracle we happened to bump into the same ones that hurled abuse at Moore.

Yep, I have no doubt at all if im honest.
I talk about that Hampden fixture, but to tbh, i really wouldn’t recommend Easter Road (the street) or Albion Road pre fixture in opposing colours. Wall to wall twats.

I see Michael Duff as left Barnsley to manage Swansea, I rate him and think he has done well.

Be interesting to see who Barnsley get, some fans saying they wouldn't mind Darren Moore.

Would be a good fit, especially as they play much better Football than Sheff Wed.

Saw somewhere that Moore actually left SW, not the reported mutual agreement or kick out by club owner…. Also that he might be going to Barnsley. Hope this is all true. Used to have a soft spot for Weds in years gone by…. Not any more. They’re an absolute basket case if a club in my view and their fans are so arrogant (based on what previous success I don’t know)

I wish Darren Moore well and certainly expect to see him in work before the start of the new season, however my thoughts that Wednesday had his replacement already lined up appears to be unfounded.

I’ve always liked Sheffield Wednesday, the second oldest club in English football with a good traditional stadium which I’ve always enjoyed visiting. As a football mad kid in the 60’s they were also one of the top teams to follow. They were the days when the Sheffield Derby was bigger than the Manchester or Liverpool Derby in fact Liverpool weren’t even in the First Division the year we won the Division I Championship in 61/62 and Chelsea were relegated as we were crowned Champions.

More recently their fortunes have also followed a similar pattern to Town having highs and lows since the millennium ranging from playing in the Premiership to League One, spending big money that didn’t work, almost going bust and having a dodgy owner.

To me it’s quite fitting that both clubs have got themselves back in the Championship at the same time and whilst I’m pleased with our new owners approach to running a football club I think their Thai guy Chansiri who bought the club from Milan Mandarić for £37.5m in 2014 has a lot to learn and may indeed sell on. I think like our Marcus Evans he just isn’t really suited to the role and will be happy to move on when the first opportunity arises.

https://www.swfc.co.uk/news/2023/june/d ... 5tl6xwNo5U

Very interesting, naturally only one side but the chairman is claiming Darren wanted a 4x salary rise on a 3 year deal.

Would like to hear Moore's version buy if that is true he was being a very greedy boy.

Given the average Championship Managers salary is £870k and the average League One Managers salary is £180k I guess you can see where he’s coming from. But of course in the Championship the average salary is inflated by 3 managers of clubs relegated from the Premier League the previous season and one of these I assume would have been the highest paid Championship Manager last season on a salary of £3.46m

Naturally, these figures pale in comparison to those managing in the Premier League. Nonetheless, the Championship remains head and shoulders above all other second-division leagues in the world on both sporting and financial levels, so one would argue that these numbers are relatively impressive.

For what it’s worth the average salary of a Premier League manager is around £7m. I assume with huge differences between the highest and lowest levels.

Charnwood wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:11 pm

Given the average Championship Managers salary is £870k and the average League One Managers salary is £180k I guess you can see where he’s coming from. But of course in the Championship the average salary is inflated by 3 managers of clubs relegated from the Premier League the previous season and one of these I assume would have been the highest paid Championship Manager last season on a salary of £3.46m

Naturally, these figures pale in comparison to those managing in the Premier League. Nonetheless, the Championship remains head and shoulders above all other second-division leagues in the world on both sporting and financial levels, so one would argue that these numbers are relatively impressive.

For what it’s worth the average salary of a Premier League manager is around £7m. I assume with huge differences between the highest and lowest levels.

Interesting figures, hadn't thought about manager salaries before.

Mauswara wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:19 am

Charnwood wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:11 pm

Given the average Championship Managers salary is £870k and the average League One Managers salary is £180k I guess you can see where he’s coming from. But of course in the Championship the average salary is inflated by 3 managers of clubs relegated from the Premier League the previous season and one of these I assume would have been the highest paid Championship Manager last season on a salary of £3.46m

Naturally, these figures pale in comparison to those managing in the Premier League. Nonetheless, the Championship remains head and shoulders above all other second-division leagues in the world on both sporting and financial levels, so one would argue that these numbers are relatively impressive.

For what it’s worth the average salary of a Premier League manager is around £7m. I assume with huge differences between the highest and lowest levels.

Interesting figures, hadn't thought about manager salaries before.

Reminds me when i used to play football manager - I’d set my own salary as low as possible to free up some of the budget

Great insight though. Makes alot of sense, in league one you have half the league who are pretty small clubs, then In championship everyone is a big club with a decent fan base and stadium size etc. I believe the average player wages are likely similar to the manager figures too.

Championship Average Salary

In the English Championship, the average player salary is about £7,700 per week. This comes to a total of just over £400,000 per year. Average player salaries can vary widely depending on the club. This is mostly due to the promotion/relegation system and its attached parachute payments which goes a long way to explain why the highest paid footballer in Championship last season was Ismaïla Sarr who plays for Watford with an annual salary of €3,718,515 per season ( £63k + pw). A further two players were paid £50kpw, 9 were paid £40k+ pw and another 18 were paid £30k+ pw. 19 paid £25k + pw and 37 paid £20k + pw.
That’s 86 players being paid £20k pw or more, many of whom were probably with clubs relegated from the Premiership in the previous 2 seasons. With a Championship average of less than £8k pw there must be many earning less than £4k or £5k per week.

The drop to League One wages is not as huge as between the Premier League and the Championship, but it is still noticeably less, with the average wage said to be £4,753 a week. As we know there are some big clubs in the division and Sheffield Wednesday midfielder Barry Bannan is League One’s highest-paid player on £21,000 a week.

Plymouth pair Sam Crosgrove and Bali Mumba, who are on loan at Home Park from Birmingham and Norwich, respectively, come next on the list with weekly wages of £18,000.

Interestingly Towns highest paid player last season was Christian Walton on £12,000 pw.

£12K a week? I’d stand between those sticks and have bottles and coins and unsavoury language hurled at me for 90 (+12) mins , NO PROBLEM.
Training , massages and decent food for the rest of the week? £12K? Yes please.

LOVE that post! I do love a bit of data/insight like that.

FTR, shabba loves the charnwood post with lots of data…….. dont throw bottles at him.

Bugger

I see Darren Moore has come out with what in all probability is the true chain of events and nothing to do with his wage demands