As Mark Ashton said

[Blue Bentley]

What gets us here, may not get us where we want to be.
Does that include the Manager?

[Bluemike]

Definitely

[hallamblue]

I actually couldn’t give a flying one if he does leave now. I’m fed up of the one dimensional approach …..

[Steve and Jo]

I don't think todays result was on the manager. Yes maybe he could of put Hurst on sooner and possibly be more adventurous

Saying that its not his fault the players squandered some real good chances by either final pass or lame shooting. We looked good in certain parts of today. No manager could of known we would concede like we did.

I still wouldn't change our manager but he's learning also, maybe this season he'll learn more for his future and possibly Towns going forward than past two seasons when everybody thought he was the bees knees

[arana peligrosa]

Stale tentative approaches is what seems most weeks. No real intent to win or content to grab a draw no matter who the opponent or we're home or away. Appears to want to emulate Mccarthy too often in terms of game approach and (I) try to put some distance between that name and what went on here.

If McKenna remains in place here until end of season there's a 90, 95 per cent chance the team will drop back out at first attempt. The risk factor in question is too high, therefore a change of name seems or is the only alternative.

He's been great no doubt, done wonders for the club name and for time you couldn't offer enough praise but truth is we're only headed one direction so long as the manager we got right now remains in position.

[ITFC2024]

I totally disagree. We haven’t been defensive at all save a few matches. We have no midfield or link up play with our forwards and except for Delap, they’re all too light weight to create chances. I said after we were promoted I hope KM considers a more defensive approach for the Premier League. That hasn’t happened and we’ve mostly signed forward players when we’re desperate for a couple strong midfielders defensively and creatively. The tactics KM employs are miles away from MM and we don’t have the talent to play KM’s way.

[ITFC2024]

I remember when Lambert used to rotate the squad, and many of us said play to your strengths FFS! Put your best players on the pitch and devise a strategy that suits the player’s strengths. KM hasn’t done that in the PL; he’s stuck to his philosophy…which is fine, but if it ain’t working do something different! He continuously starts Omari Hutchinson even though he hasn’t performed well…KM has brought on J. Clarke even after the numerous times he’s failed to produce. He finally brought in Townsend as left back and he performed well…where was he today? Too many inexperienced decisions by the manager have shackled us from getting results. Yes the players are responsible, but the manager has to recognize what and who will help to produce results.

[marko69]

If McKenna remains in place here until end of season there's a 90, 95 per cent chance the team will drop back out at first attempt. The risk factor in question is too high, therefore a change of name seems or is the only alternative.

Reading this type of ........ stuff, makes me wish that Huddersfield had've pumped Ipswich @ PR last May. It's been too early and thus too damaging.

But..... if Charnwood is correct in the other thread about £15M compensation, then fill your boots Kieron ma son.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Unacceptable.

I'm resigned, now, to relegation - I just can't see how we're going to avoid it.

Two things have cost us this season in my opinion:
1: Poor recruitment (apart from Delap)
2: An inexperienced manager who - although he did well in the lower leagues - is not up to the demands of the PL and who has completely floundered.

[Blue Wilf]

Unacceptable.

I'm resigned, now, to relegation - I just can't see how we're going to avoid it.

Two things have cost us this season in my opinion:
1: Poor recruitment (apart from Delap)
2: An inexperienced manager who - although he did well in the lower leagues - is not up to the demands of the PL and who has completely floundered.

WORD

[Bluemike]

I remember when Lambert used to rotate the squad, and many of us said play to your strengths FFS! Put your best players on the pitch and devise a strategy that suits the player’s strengths. KM hasn’t done that in the PL; he’s stuck to his philosophy…which is fine, but if it ain’t working do something different! He continuously starts Omari Hutchinson even though he hasn’t performed well…KM has brought on J. Clarke even after the numerous times he’s failed to produce. He finally brought in Townsend as left back and he performed well…where was he today? Too many inexperienced decisions by the manager have shackled us from getting results. Yes the players are responsible, but the manager has to recognize what and who will help to produce results.

Spot on.

[Bluemike]

Unacceptable.

I'm resigned, now, to relegation - I just can't see how we're going to avoid it.

Two things have cost us this season in my opinion:
1: Poor recruitment (apart from Delap)
2: An inexperienced manager who - although he did well in the lower leagues - is not up to the demands of the PL and who has completely floundered.

WORD

Sadly it's WORD from me too.

[Blue Wilf]

I remember when Lambert used to rotate the squad, and many of us said play to your strengths FFS! Put your best players on the pitch and devise a strategy that suits the player’s strengths. KM hasn’t done that in the PL; he’s stuck to his philosophy…which is fine, but if it ain’t working do something different! He continuously starts Omari Hutchinson even though he hasn’t performed well…KM has brought on J. Clarke even after the numerous times he’s failed to produce. He finally brought in Townsend as left back and he performed well…where was he today? Too many inexperienced decisions by the manager have shackled us from getting results. Yes the players are responsible, but the manager has to recognize what and who will help to produce results.

Totally as I see it too

[hallamblue]

I remember when Lambert used to rotate the squad, and many of us said play to your strengths FFS! Put your best players on the pitch and devise a strategy that suits the player’s strengths. KM hasn’t done that in the PL; he’s stuck to his philosophy…which is fine, but if it ain’t working do something different! He continuously starts Omari Hutchinson even though he hasn’t performed well…KM has brought on J. Clarke even after the numerous times he’s failed to produce. He finally brought in Townsend as left back and he performed well…where was he today? Too many inexperienced decisions by the manager have shackled us from getting results. Yes the players are responsible, but the manager has to recognize what and who will help to produce results.

WORD

[Ricco]

Can't argue. I was worried when we bought so many players in... would it disrupt the team spirit and player combinations/understanding that got the club there.

You take a dip in performance when settling in new players, you just hope that once it co.es together the improvement over the original team will have been worth the effort. As far as I see it, it hasn't been.

We have scored so few goals that it would be hard to argue the £80m spent on Clarke, Philogene, Hutchinson, Ogbene has been worth it.

Actually rant incoming... we spend the money on Szmodics, he has 4 goals to his name, only he and Delap have more that 2 goals this season, but instead of playing him centrally, we played Hutchinson there, who has done naff all, and now we're brought someone else in to that posisiton to replace him. We should have been spending that time, effort and money bringing in a player in a position we actually need.

It's panic buying, we've now panicked and reverted to previous formation. It's panic, panic, panic and we're making all the wrong mistakes. It wouldn't surprise me if Ashton panics and brings in another man now too, because this current trend suggests we're dead in the water.

[Blue Wilf]

Can't argue. I was worried when we bought so many players in... would it disrupt the team spirit and player combinations/understanding that got the club there.

You take a dip in performance when settling in new players, you just hope that once it co.es together the improvement over the original team will have been worth the effort. As far as I see it, it hasn't been.

We have scored so few goals that it would be hard to argue the £80m spent on Clarke, Philogene, Hutchinson, Ogbene has been worth it.

Actually rant incoming... we spend the money on Szmodics, he has 4 goals to his name, only he and Delap have more that 2 goals this season, but instead of playing him centrally, we played Hutchinson there, who has done naff all, and now we're brought someone else in to that posisiton to replace him. We should have been spending that time, effort and money bringing in a player in a position we actually need.

It's panic buying, we've now panicked and reverted to previous formation. It's panic, panic, panic and we're making all the wrong mistakes. It wouldn't surprise me if Ashton panics and brings in another man now too, because this current trend suggests we're dead in the water.

I wonder if this would now be a problem for Ashton as he has so publicly backed KM as being the perfect choice and their wonderful working relationship. If we go down and KM will leave anyway, why not change now (or as soon as it is clear we are down) so that someone new (who can bring us back and hopefully have a better chance of keeping us up) is in place. His call I guess

[Bluemike]

Ashton has people to answer to as well, its them that will ultimately call the shots.

[Ricco]

I wonder if this would now be a problem for Ashton

No chance, the man pees almost pure Teflon, he wouldn't allow himself to get linked with issues on the pitch.

The whole picture is that we expected to struggle and go down, that is par for the course. Whatever happens, this season could never go down as a major failure... a missed opportunity for sure, but not an outright failure.

So if I were Ashton, I'd be more concerned about getting the finances on point with relegation now a probability, because that is the area where everything (including his career) could blow up in his face.

What makes you think KM leaves in the summer by the way? I can't see any Premier League teams being overly keen to pick him up now, and so I think the only way he may leave is if Ashton feels we need fresh impetus at the helm?

I don't think Ashton boots McKenna at this juncture, it would be an exorbitantly expensive booting to boot. However maybe he might put pressure on him to 'show me more', and 'don't go down with a whimper'.

[AzzurroMark]

I may well be ploughing a lone furrow here, well apart from Massey and Marko ('M'-power, if you like ), but I still can't believe a lot of what I am reading on this forum! I totally get the frustration, especially after Saturday's result and the results in general, moreso in 2025!
I am just glad that we have MA overseeing everything, I trust his and Gamechangers judgement and am sure that when they feel any change is needed, they will act accordingly. I realise that very few, or perhaps no, posters on here are calling for KM to be sacked, but quite a few seem to not be too bothered if we got rid, let me make that point very clear. Personally, and hopefully we will not find out, I think getting rid of Keiran would be the worst day's business this club had done since pre-Marcus Evans!

Many will point to David Moyes to offer an argument that a decent experienced manager could lift us. I will point to the fact that Everton's squad value is more like that of an average PL side, whereas ours is still probably the lowest value. There's no saying a manager of his ilk couldn't help us, after all experience has to count for something! I think Mick McCarthy, despite his team's, at times, insipid style of play, had a very poor Ipswich squad punching well above their weight!
You only have to look at the (inexperienced) Van Nistelroy at Leicester, Juric (relatively experienced in Italy) to see that squads nearer the value of ours are always likely to struggle!

I will look more at Vincent Company as a source for why I believe that KM is the right man for Ipswich, and also a reason why to suggest any bigger club wouldn't touch him with a barge pole is nonsense! If established top flight clubs weren't interested in Keiran, it would only be because of his overall lack of experience and not in any real flaws in his coaching/management style! Vincent's Burnley side, which had only been relegated from the top flight the previous season, and therefore had parachute payments and something no doubt near the type of team we would have should we get relegated this season, romped to the Championship title! This opposed to an Ipswich side which had come up from L1 with a smattering of Championship level players. From an experience point of view VK had limited experience managing Anderlecht, prior to Burnley.

Burnley in 2023 started their PL campaign, from a squad and an FFP position markedly superior to ours this season! However they finished 2nd bottom on 24 points, a total which I don't think is beyond the realms of possibility that we can catch and hopefully surpass! Relegation followed as did Kompany's departure to Bayern Munich! They are giants of the Bundesliga, who had finished 3rd in 23/24 season with 8 defeats and 72 points to their name. This season so far, they sit 1st with 51 points after 20 games, just a single defeat and indeed only 3 draws! Not bad for a manager who looked no less or no more out of his depth than McKenna is, allegedly!

I guess my point is, as I have made before, that even with our latest recruits, we are woefully short of the experience levels of other PL teams. Has KM made mistakes, yes, without a shadow of a doubt and he will continue to make them. It is the only way of learning! Have we got our recruitment correct? Show me a manager who has, especially when you're not able to compete on a level playing field. Some will say 'Muric', and I cede that his mistakes continue to cost us dearly. On the other hand if we had converted many of our chances on Saturday, as an example, then we would have been out of sight at half time! His continued selection is on KM's shoulders, but with Walton out, he certainly had his hand forced the weekend just gone. Indeed, I struggle to see us getting anyone else in in goal! (Edit: have just seen we have signed WBA keeper).
I remain firmly behind KM, frustrating as this season has been. Relegation looks more likely by the day, but who were we really kidding if we believed it would be that easy to grab even 17th place. I don't want relegation, of course not, but if that is what comes then so be it. It is then that our hand maybe forced with players moving on and indeed KM moving onto a club which may well have the squad quality which enhances and is enhanced by Keiran's management style.

[Blue Wilf]

I may well be ploughing a lone furrow here, well apart from Massey and Marko ('M'-power, if you like ), but I still can't believe a lot of what I am reading on this forum! I totally get the frustration, especially after Saturday's result and the results in general, moreso in 2025!
I am just glad that we have MA overseeing everything, I trust his and Gamechangers judgement and am sure that when they feel any change is needed, they will act accordingly. I realise that very few, or perhaps no, posters on here are calling for KM to be sacked, but quite a few seem to not be too bothered if we got rid, let me make that point very clear. Personally, and hopefully we will not find out, I think getting rid of Keiran would be the worst day's business this club had done since pre-Marcus Evans!

Many will point to David Moyes to offer an argument that a decent experienced manager could lift us. I will point to the fact that Everton's squad value is more like that of an average PL side, whereas ours is still probably the lowest value. There's no saying a manager of his ilk couldn't help us, after all experience has to count for something! I think Mick McCarthy, despite his team's, at times, insipid style of play, had a very poor Ipswich squad punching well above their weight!
You only have to look at the (inexperienced) Van Nistelroy at Leicester, Juric (relatively experienced in Italy) to see that squads nearer the value of ours are always likely to struggle!

I will look more at Vincent Company as a source for why I believe that KM is the right man for Ipswich, and also a reason why to suggest any bigger club wouldn't touch him with a barge pole is nonsense! If established top flight clubs weren't interested in Keiran, it would only be because of his overall lack of experience and not in any real flaws in his coaching/management style! Vincent's Burnley side, which had only been relegated from the top flight the previous season, and therefore had parachute payments and something no doubt near the type of team we would have should we get relegated this season, romped to the Championship title! This opposed to an Ipswich side which had come up from L1 with a smattering of Championship level players. From an experience point of view VK had limited experience managing Anderlecht, prior to Burnley.

Burnley in 2023 started their PL campaign, from a squad and an FFP position markedly superior to ours this season! However they finished 2nd bottom on 24 points, a total which I don't think is beyond the realms of possibility that we can catch and hopefully surpass! Relegation followed as did Kompany's departure to Bayern Munich! They are giants of the Bundesliga, who had finished 3rd in 23/24 season with 8 defeats and 72 points to their name. This season so far, they sit 1st with 51 points after 20 games, just a single defeat and indeed only 3 draws! Not bad for a manager who looked no less or no more out of his depth than McKenna is, allegedly!

I guess my point is, as I have made before, that even with our latest recruits, we are woefully short of the experience levels of other PL teams. Has KM made mistakes, yes, without a shadow of a doubt and he will continue to make them. It is the only way of learning! Have we got our recruitment correct? Show me a manager who has, especially when you're not able to compete on a level playing field. Some will say 'Muric', and I cede that his mistakes continue to cost us dearly. On the other hand if we had converted many of our chances on Saturday, as an example, then we would have been out of sight at half time! His continued selection is on KM's shoulders, but with Walton out, he certainly had his hand forced the weekend just gone. Indeed, I struggle to see us getting anyone else in in goal! (Edit: have just seen we have signed WBA keeper).
I remain firmly behind KM, frustrating as this season has been. Relegation looks more likely by the day, but who were we really kidding if we believed it would be that easy to grab even 17th place. I don't want relegation, of course not, but if that is what comes then so be it. It is then that our hand maybe forced with players moving on and indeed KM moving onto a club which may well have the squad quality which enhances and is enhanced by Keiran's management style.

I am not saying get rid of KM. I am saying he will walk if we go down - just like Company did.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

I remain firmly behind KM, frustrating as this season has been. Relegation looks more likely by the day, but who were we really kidding if we believed it would be that easy to grab even 17th place. I don't want relegation, of course not, but if that is what comes then so be it. It is then that our hand maybe forced with players moving on and indeed KM moving onto a club which may well have the squad quality which enhances and is enhanced by Keiran's management style.

I am not saying get rid of KM. I am saying he will walk if we go down - just like Company did.

If we get relegated then IMO KM will walk should an opportinity present itself: but let's face it, given his record in the PL can you imagine any other PL club wanting to bring him in? I can't.

[Bluemike]

Surely if he truly believes in the process he would stay and see it through?

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Surely if he truly believes in the process he would stay and see it through?

WORD - let's see

[hallamblue]

Well he's not short of a bob or two is he!

[Steve and Jo]

I may well be ploughing a lone furrow here, well apart from Massey and Marko ('M'-power, if you like ), but I still can't believe a lot of what I am reading on this forum! I totally get the frustration, especially after Saturday's result and the results in general, moreso in 2025!
I am just glad that we have MA overseeing everything, I trust his and Gamechangers judgement and am sure that when they feel any change is needed, they will act accordingly. I realise that very few, or perhaps no, posters on here are calling for KM to be sacked, but quite a few seem to not be too bothered if we got rid, let me make that point very clear. Personally, and hopefully we will not find out, I think getting rid of Keiran would be the worst day's business this club had done since pre-Marcus Evans!

Many will point to David Moyes to offer an argument that a decent experienced manager could lift us. I will point to the fact that Everton's squad value is more like that of an average PL side, whereas ours is still probably the lowest value. There's no saying a manager of his ilk couldn't help us, after all experience has to count for something! I think Mick McCarthy, despite his team's, at times, insipid style of play, had a very poor Ipswich squad punching well above their weight!
You only have to look at the (inexperienced) Van Nistelroy at Leicester, Juric (relatively experienced in Italy) to see that squads nearer the value of ours are always likely to struggle!

I will look more at Vincent Company as a source for why I believe that KM is the right man for Ipswich, and also a reason why to suggest any bigger club wouldn't touch him with a barge pole is nonsense! If established top flight clubs weren't interested in Keiran, it would only be because of his overall lack of experience and not in any real flaws in his coaching/management style! Vincent's Burnley side, which had only been relegated from the top flight the previous season, and therefore had parachute payments and something no doubt near the type of team we would have should we get relegated this season, romped to the Championship title! This opposed to an Ipswich side which had come up from L1 with a smattering of Championship level players. From an experience point of view VK had limited experience managing Anderlecht, prior to Burnley.

Burnley in 2023 started their PL campaign, from a squad and an FFP position markedly superior to ours this season! However they finished 2nd bottom on 24 points, a total which I don't think is beyond the realms of possibility that we can catch and hopefully surpass! Relegation followed as did Kompany's departure to Bayern Munich! They are giants of the Bundesliga, who had finished 3rd in 23/24 season with 8 defeats and 72 points to their name. This season so far, they sit 1st with 51 points after 20 games, just a single defeat and indeed only 3 draws! Not bad for a manager who looked no less or no more out of his depth than McKenna is, allegedly!

I guess my point is, as I have made before, that even with our latest recruits, we are woefully short of the experience levels of other PL teams. Has KM made mistakes, yes, without a shadow of a doubt and he will continue to make them. It is the only way of learning! Have we got our recruitment correct? Show me a manager who has, especially when you're not able to compete on a level playing field. Some will say 'Muric', and I cede that his mistakes continue to cost us dearly. On the other hand if we had converted many of our chances on Saturday, as an example, then we would have been out of sight at half time! His continued selection is on KM's shoulders, but with Walton out, he certainly had his hand forced the weekend just gone. Indeed, I struggle to see us getting anyone else in in goal! (Edit: have just seen we have signed WBA keeper).
I remain firmly behind KM, frustrating as this season has been. Relegation looks more likely by the day, but who were we really kidding if we believed it would be that easy to grab even 17th place. I don't want relegation, of course not, but if that is what comes then so be it. It is then that our hand maybe forced with players moving on and indeed KM moving onto a club which may well have the squad quality which enhances and is enhanced by Keiran's management style.

Well said and logic Mark

Surely everybody in the forum must of known it would be damned hard to finish 17th, if not then maybe wake up. This must be one of the toughest seasons ever in the Premier league. Last season the three went down were not settled premier league teams but most yo yo's in Sheffield Utd and Burnley then Luton Town. This year we are surrounded by established clubs. Both Leicester and Southampton prior to relegation season before were both established clubs with much more money to spend than Ipswich.

Again yes Kieran has made mistakes, no doubt about that and maybe more than should of, but its not all his fault. Few months ago all were applauding him yet now its likesome people can't wait to kick his backside out of the door quick enough. Maybe we will go down, maybe if that's the case everybody would of learnt more, be more experience and be better for it.

We are still lot better under these owners, Mark Ashton and yes even Kieran than we were few short years ago. I can see us bouncing back next season, and we are far ahead of even the wildest dreams anybody could of had when the club changed hands.

Look around the stadium, the training ground. Everything is up compared to before.

I cannot get my head around Muric, disaster waiting to happen yet again not all his fault. Chances missed at opposite end but Muric can't play for us again, his confidence what left has totally been shot and never did rate him before

I still am 100% behind and given full support for the owners, Mark Ashton and all his background staff including the manager

[hallamblue]

Two good posts there fellas, and one thing we can be sure of on here is, all of us want the best for Town and for us to survive. It's going to be a tough call ( always has been), I doubt we'll survive now tbh. The young players McKenna is assembling can by and large only improve. Yes he's made mistakes and demonstrates a lack of experience. We shouldn't be surprised should we. Will he walk? I don't know, but if it hspprned It wouldn't surprise me. But I'm almost 100% certain we won't be sacking him. I just wish he had some older head alongside him sometimes, but I doubt he'd ever accept that situation. He's his own man.

What will be will be ......

[Bluemike]

This is where I get bored of repeating myself, its not about can we grab 17th, it was always going to be tough, for the two hundredth time, its down to our chronic lack of game management at key times that have cost us a lot of points, its the stubbornness at the start of the season to try nothing different, its the predictability of the substitutions etc which are basically always like for like instead of switching it up, its the constant shuffling of the defence like a pack of cards, it was the insistence on sticking with that tool in goal for way too long, I could go on.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Well said and logic Mark

Surely everybody in the forum must of known it would be damned hard to finish 17th, if not then maybe wake up. This must be one of the toughest seasons ever in the Premier league. Last season the three went down were not settled premier league teams but most yo yo's in Sheffield Utd and Burnley then Luton Town. This year we are surrounded by established clubs. Both Leicester and Southampton prior to relegation season before were both established clubs with much more money to spend than Ipswich.

Again yes Kieran has made mistakes, no doubt about that and maybe more than should of, but its not all his fault. Few months ago all were applauding him yet now its likesome people can't wait to kick his backside out of the door quick enough. Maybe we will go down, maybe if that's the case everybody would of learnt more, be more experience and be better for it.

We are still lot better under these owners, Mark Ashton and yes even Kieran than we were few short years ago. I can see us bouncing back next season, and we are far ahead of even the wildest dreams anybody could of had when the club changed hands.

Look around the stadium, the training ground. Everything is up compared to before.

I cannot get my head around Muric, disaster waiting to happen yet again not all his fault. Chances missed at opposite end but Muric can't play for us again, his confidence what left has totally been shot and never did rate him before

I still am 100% behind and given full support for the owners, Mark Ashton and all his background staff including the manager

I could quite easily counter and say that maybe it's you who needs to wake up.

Everybody knew that staying up this season would be difficult, and nothing has changed there.
But at least if we're going down, let's go down fighting.
Clearly the current approach is not working - we're one-dimensional and rotating the squad far too much. So most people would try something different - KM can't or won't. Sometimes I feel he is stubbornly sticking to his principles because he wants to build his reputation on his principles - to the detriment of the team. Maybe that's a bit harsh, maybe not.

[Steve and Jo]

This is where I get bored of repeating myself, its not about can we grab 17th, it was always going to be tough, for the two hundredth time, its down to our chronic lack of game management at key times that have cost us a lot of points, its the stubbornness at the start of the season to try nothing different, its the predictability of the substitutions etc which are basically always like for like instead of switching it up, its the constant shuffling of the defence like a pack of cards, it was the insistence on sticking with that tool in goal for way too long, I could go on.

Thing is Mike I was not directing my previous post directly to or at you. It was a general post to the FORUM. In fairness you can say whatever 300 times, even more, make it a round thousand times which still won't alter my thoughts or my right to post to the entire forum

I'm sure you didn't mean or even think I was talking directly to you but that's how you sounded there.

I also said the manager has made mistakes, no denying he has, he knows he has but in "my" opinion in the long run I still think he will come good and all the better if that is with Ipswich..

My entire previous post was just outlining where we are now compared to a few years ago. Yes we could well go down but Ipswich Town FC are in a far better place now than have been for twenty plus year and I can see us coming back up in a better place

Now will i get shot down for saying that?

[Steve and Jo]

Well said and logic Mark

Surely everybody in the forum must of known it would be damned hard to finish 17th, if not then maybe wake up. This must be one of the toughest seasons ever in the Premier league. Last season the three went down were not settled premier league teams but most yo yo's in Sheffield Utd and Burnley then Luton Town. This year we are surrounded by established clubs. Both Leicester and Southampton prior to relegation season before were both established clubs with much more money to spend than Ipswich.

Again yes Kieran has made mistakes, no doubt about that and maybe more than should of, but its not all his fault. Few months ago all were applauding him yet now its likesome people can't wait to kick his backside out of the door quick enough. Maybe we will go down, maybe if that's the case everybody would of learnt more, be more experience and be better for it.

We are still lot better under these owners, Mark Ashton and yes even Kieran than we were few short years ago. I can see us bouncing back next season, and we are far ahead of even the wildest dreams anybody could of had when the club changed hands.

Look around the stadium, the training ground. Everything is up compared to before.

I cannot get my head around Muric, disaster waiting to happen yet again not all his fault. Chances missed at opposite end but Muric can't play for us again, his confidence what left has totally been shot and never did rate him before

I still am 100% behind and given full support for the owners, Mark Ashton and all his background staff including the manager

I could quite easily counter and say that maybe it's you who needs to wake up.

Everybody knew that staying up this season would be difficult, and nothing has changed there.
But at least if we're going down, let's go down fighting.
Clearly the current approach is not working - we're one-dimensional and rotating the squad far too much. So most people would try something different - KM can't or won't. Sometimes I feel he is stubbornly sticking to his principles because he wants to build his reputation on his principles - to the detriment of the team. Maybe that's a bit harsh, maybe not.

Fully awake at time of posting but I never once thought this season was going to be easy

What went wrong last Saturday was Ipswich could not score even though they got themselves into great positions. That's down to poor finishing and decent goalkeeping from Ramsdal. Not scoring plus not being able to finish damn good positinal play off. How many times were we close to getting behind them. One on One or we didn't beat the man or poot choice in last pass, then we come to our goalkeeper to how how we lost.. Well I think I made my views on Muric known

Its not that I disagree with you or Mike or anybody else saying things are not working at the moment. I think results prove they are not working, i'm not sure he is sticking to his principles totally though.
Last few games he's changed from a back four to three come five, he's tried to make us harder to beat which worked against Chelsea. Fulham for me was crazy.. Into injury time and having our left back in or around their penalty area was just wrong. I think we both agree there

So he's kept with 3 / 5 at the back for both Man City and Liverpool. Being honest I think any formation we still would of lost albeit by the amount really cheesed me off. Lot of the time the defenders and goalkeeper were getting in each others way.

I have suggested I would of placed an extra midfielder in, an attacking one because I feel especially against the so called bigger teams we get overran in midfield but that's only my opinion and I know nothing