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by rossi » Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:52 pm
hallamblue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:35 am
How long ago did those clubs get promoted to PL? Maybe things have changed since then? It does seem worse to me on do many planes, and not just concerning us.
Maybe it is a load of baloney re corruptness, but it's really hard not to feel that way given what's happened over the last 3 games.
Time will tell I guess...
But I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that Ashton / Howard meeting this week wouldn't you?
Yes I would love to be a fly on the wall to see what exactly is discussed.
Maybe Howard's intention is simply to explain the rules regarding Referees/VAR to MA.
If MA is going to show replays of the situations he thinks we've been hard done by and that go against the rules then it would be very interesting to see what the reply is - but I suspect the answer would be that referees are human and VAR is operated by humans and humans are liable to make mistakes.
I agree 100% that we have had some dodgy decisions recently, but they've been made and nothing can be done now to undo them, nor will VAR suddenly be abandoned - at the end of the day nothing is going to change as a result of this meeting so there is absolutely no point whatsoever in continuing to feel aggrieved and wound-up. Personally I hate to have to accept a situation about which I'm not happy (ie Brexit) but at the end of the day nothing I do or say is going to change things, so just move on.
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by hallamblue » Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:51 pm
If nothing else it'll flag up to refs this Clubs opinion re their decisions and it MIGHT make them think twice about some of the decisions they make against us.
Peeing in the wind though isn't it, I expect !
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by RRanger » Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:16 pm
I'd like to think that as a result of the meeting between Howard Webb and MA that Tim Robinson won't be officiating in a premier League match next week and Stuart Atwell will be asked why he didn't at least give Robinson a chance to review his decision, and Atwell won't be sitting in the VAR chair for some time.
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by Bluemike » Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:24 pm
They all stick together like sh*te
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by RRanger » Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:32 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:24 pm
They all stick together like sh*te
You're probably right Mike. Whatever MA and Webb discuss Webb can't very well say to Darren England (the ref at Spurs on Saturday) be kind to Ipswich but maybe he might intimate that we are very unhappy with the officiating so far.
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by AzzurroMark » Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:33 pm
I think MA will particularly make a point to HW that, following Wolverhampton Wanderers petition to get VAR abolished, he listened to all the arguments before deciding to vote to retain VAR. At that time MA said (in the Radio Suffolk interview) that he'd had no previous personal experience of VAR and "we listened primarily to the Premier League. On the basis of what I was told we supported the Premier League's decision. A key part of that was how high the bar was going to be set for decisions to be overturned and overruled, and at what point VAR was going to get involved in the game"
On viewing these last 3 games it has shown that the PL appears to have missold its vision for retaining VAR. MA also said "If I was asked to make that vote again tomorrow, I can't look you in the eye and say I'd vote the same way". He also said his experience now makes him feel, from an entertainment point of view that football is worse off! Ipswich Town certainly are!
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by hallamblue » Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:29 pm
But that'd still only be just TWO clubs in the PL voting against VAR. It stinks . There's so many issues on a weekly basis surrounding officials and VAR. Even " linesman" don't play an active part in games anymore. The game has become a complete joke .
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by AzzurroMark » Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:27 am
Just read this in the EADT and it is something to take heart from I feel;
FIVE POINTS AFTER 10 GAMES
Perhaps of bigger interest to Town fans right now is how teams who have had five points or fewer at this stage of the campaign went on to fare. This stat, I’m pleased to tell you, is more positive.
In total, 38 teams have been in this predicament in the past and 15 of them – more than a third – went on to survive.
On top of the five teams already outlined above, there was:
Nottingham Forest - 5pts after 10 in 22/23, finished 16th.
Crystal Palace - 4pts after 10 in 17/18, finished 11th.
Swansea - 5pts after 10 in 16/17, finished 15th.
Sunderland - 4pts after 10 in 13/14, finished 14th.
Crystal Palace - 3pts after 10 in 13/14, finished 11th.
Southampton - 4pts after 10 in 12/13, finished 14th.
Wigan - 5pts after 10 in 11/12, finished 15th.
Bolton - 5pts after 10 in 07/08, finished 16th.
Southampton - 5pts after 10 in 98/99, finished 17th.
Southampton - 4pts after 10 in 93/94, finished 18th in 22 team division.
Three of the above were newly-promoted sides..
. EADT
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by Bluemike » Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:52 am
Shows it can be done, however 67% of sides in that predicament don't survive which is a hefty percentage.
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by shabba » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:15 pm
How does it look if a team had 8 points after 11 games
Been really busy so forgot to post about this game, it’ll go down as a very special day for me - I took my 8 year old son for his first match - along with my dad so we had three generations of town fans there.
When we scored I was lifting my son up and celebrating together, my dad video’d it. He showed me after the game, it was a a really special moment that got captured of such a precious moment.
He was devastated when we conceded and took about half hour to bring round, but he was ok after that and had a magic day - we went up early and came back late.
Despite the result it was a really special moment in my life.
Sorry if that’s a tad soppy!
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by marko69 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:05 pm
shabba wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:15 pm
How does it look if a team had 8 points after 11 games
Been really busy so forgot to post about this game, it’ll go down as a very special day for me - I took my 8 year old son for his first match - along with my dad so we had three generations of town fans there.
When we scored I was lifting my son up and celebrating together, my dad video’d it. He showed me after the game, it was a a really special moment that got captured of such a precious moment.
He was devastated when we conceded and took about half hour to bring round, but he was ok after that and had a magic day - we went up early and came back late.
Despite the result it was a really special moment in my life.
Sorry if that’s a tad soppy!
Shabba, NEVER apologise for being a tad soppy......,. or even TOO soppy. Your son should be cherished forever and memories like this one you shared are what life itself is all about.
My youngest boy, Scotty too Hotty (he's 30 years old) got another CLEAR brain scan result today. Tears of pure joy all around. Looking for the smiling emoji with tears but there isn't one!
Scott's earliest memories of Easter Road are the first three visits were defeats. He remembers as a 6 year old thinking, "Why is he bringing me here!"
But he's a proper Hibee now. Even though he was wearing a retro Arsenal top (Cannon facing left) to the scan result today.
Hope there are PLENTY more trips to the football for you, your son and dad.
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by Bluemike » Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:51 pm
Great news Marko, pleased for you all !!
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by shabba » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:46 pm
Fantastic news! So sad to hear when people so young have such major health scares.
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by hallamblue » Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:50 pm
Brilliant news marko…here’s a BIG hug
just for you xx
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by marko69 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:06 pm
Thanks very much guys, much appreciated......, today has indeed been a great day after yesterdays result. Everyone at a place called Craigie Farm for lunch....., (the adults anyway; granbairns at school --->> nae luck!)
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by Bluemike » Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:35 am
Marko, is this something Scotty has to have forever now or will he get to a point where if everything is still fine he's through a particular time frame where checks are not so frequently needed ?
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by Cabanas Blue » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:12 am
I've only just seen your good news Marko, that's great and I'm so pleased for you and your family
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by marko69 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:33 am
Bluemike wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:35 am
Marko, is this something Scotty has to have forever now or will he get to a point where if everything is still fine he's through a particular time frame where checks are not so frequently needed ?
Unfortunately it was a Glioblastoma multiforma grade 4 cancer he had very successfully removed in October 2021. (Paul Brennan —->> a proper genius in every sense of the word)
After radiotherapy and chemo which was also successful, he lives the rest of his life with 6 monthly scans. He didn’t get a prognosis. But the prognosis is not great. He’s now has 5 completely clear scans. And he’s back driving again. The DVLA rule is; 2 full years after chemo ends. And he’s back at his job 4 days a week.
And he and his Mrs just got a new house. Life insurance was a struggle but all was sorted out.
And there are ways to keep healthier. Diet and exercise. Which he follows strictly. Also follows guys like Dave Bolton, Logan Sneed & Andrew Scarborough. All guys who are 10 year survivors of GBMF4 brain tumours. Dave Bolton was given 3 months to live in 2014……. But
…… he’s still here.
ANYWAY…….. back on topic……. Leicester?? They’re getting relegated eh?!
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by marko69 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:34 am
Cabanas Blue wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:12 am
I've only just seen your good news Marko, that's great and I'm so pleased for you and your family
Thanks cabanas!
Speaking of “cabanas”…… the properties of the gummies help attack the cancer!
Don’t ban me, Frosty!
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by Ricco » Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:15 am
marko69 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:05 pm
Scott's earliest memories of Easter Road are the first three visits were defeats. He remembers as a 6 year old thinking, "Why is he bringing me here!"
It's a shame the surgeon wasn't able to remove those memories while he was at it
Great to hear he's doing well Marko, I've had my dad and boss go through it all in the last couple of years and it's just not fair or fun for anyone, that's for sure. All the best for him and all the family, and thanks to the bloody geniuses and kind souls that work on these things!!