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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:41 pm

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Another goalkeeper was going to be kind of imperative what with Walton out of action for a time and Muric in so many words "prone to error", but it took a read from the TWTD main page to truly understand what this Palmer is all about.

Seems tall, could or can command his area, maybe more proficient on set pieces than someone else we could have brought in, but would expect to be used sparingly so soon after coming in. Probably feature with Coventry City in an upcoming Cup contest as the manager will field a change squad on the day from usual league action. After that guessing will play second choice behind Muric for a time, even if the latter is damaged goods. When Walton returns, whenever that be, would expect Muric to be moved on and Palmer set in stone second choice for goal duties.

Some garbage on TWTD in that we're looking to sell Delap for some ridiculous figure in a day or two or in no time at all. (It's non-practical because) First the buying club just don't require him and secondly the price indicated is simply absurd or far outside boundaries of reasoning.

I think you will find that Muric will be third in line at best and I would be surprised if he played for Town again, we have not bought Palmer to sit on the bench.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:47 pm

Looking around, he sounds like a really decent keeper, and for a fraction of the cost of Muric. He’ll go straight into the team for Sat I reckon

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:58 pm

It feels a lot like Sereni and Marshall. Sereni and Muric were probably initially preferred because of their potential to be excellent, but they both failed to bring their reliability up to a sufficient level, and so less exciting, but reliable replacements were brought in. Let's hope he fits in quickly and it's not too little too late.

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Re: January transfers

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Re: January transfers

Post by Shed on tour » Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:50 pm

mendipblue wrote:
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https://www.skysports.com/football/vide ... swich-town looks good 👍
The only concern I have is some West Brom fans have questioned his ability with distribution, where have we heard that before? However, believe he kept the most clean sheets in the Championship last year and as that is where we will most probably be playing next season could turn out to be a good buy for that level.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Charnwood » Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:56 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:47 pm
Looking around, he sounds like a really decent keeper, and for a fraction of the cost of Muric. He’ll go straight into the team for Sat I reckon
That’s a shame in some respects as I was hoping to see what Slicker can do. However we don’t see him In training and maybe McKenna simply doesn’t think he’s ready yet.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Charnwood » Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:58 pm

Who’s the Chelsea lad Somto Boniface we’ve just signed. 18 yr old academy graduate, not sure if this is a loan or a purchase.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:11 pm

Alex Palmer has passed his #itfc medical. 3.5yr deal should be announced soon.

Understand that will be that for Ipswich Town ahead of tonight's 11pm deadline.
8:05 PM · Feb 3, 2025

From Stewart Watson.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Charnwood » Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:26 pm

So nothing about the youngster I mentioned above or do academy graduates not count?

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:34 pm

Don't think they do Andy.

Not a great window for us unfortunately

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Re: January transfers

Post by ashfordblue » Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:43 pm

Charnwood wrote:
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So nothing about the youngster I mentioned above or do academy graduates not count?
He's a left-back used in Chelsea's under 18s so he's for the future to take over from Davis

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:36 pm

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=93020 ... ficialitfc

He's made more saves than Muric already 🤭🤣

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:49 pm

.....and not dropped a shot yet.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Charnwood » Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:48 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:34 pm
Don't think they do Andy.

Not a great window for us unfortunately
It looks like we’ve paid £4m for WBA ‘s keeper, that’s double the price quoted this morning. Shows his desperate we are but not surprising.

Window closes in 14 mins did I think it’s done for us unless it’s a “free agent”.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:20 am

Charnwood wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 11:48 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:34 pm
Don't think they do Andy.

Not a great window for us unfortunately
It looks like we’ve paid £4m for WBA ‘s keeper, that’s double the price quoted this morning. Shows his desperate we are but not surprising.

Window closes in 14 mins did I think it’s done for us unless it’s a “free agent”.
I think it's 2 m and rising up to 4 million on appearances etc.

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Re: January transfers

Post by ATB » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:32 am

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Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:20 pm
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Even McKenna will have had enough of Muric.
But we won't get the 10 or 12 points back he's cost us, the damage is done. I think its criminal to pay 10 Million for him.
I think attributing losing 10-12 points is a bit harsh.

Not saying he hasn’t made howlers but if I recall correctly I’d say only saints, Bournemouth and Brentford are the games which his mistakes genuinely cost us points and even the Bournemouth one can’t be solely attributed to him.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:24 am

Mate without even looking back through the games I can definitely think of more than those Two disasters, I mean only Saturday he cost us Two goals, that was probably Three points, the rush of blood against Palace where he came charging out when he should have stayed put was another, but aside from that there have been loads of errors and I wouldn't mind betting the defence are worse for it as they have little confidence in him. It will be interesting to see how Palmer gets on and what effect it has on the defence.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:01 am

The problem is Muric KEEPS making these same mistakes,vas he did at Burnley. Toen would have been aware of it 100% but obviously thought they could iron it out if his game. I'd say he's a bit to old to get rid of those , what looks like, established errors. We took a chance and it's backfired. It happens.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:16 am

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Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:24 am
Mate without even looking back through the games I can definitely think of more than those Two disasters
Hijacking the point a touch... Leicester, Wolves and Southampton have all conceded more goals than Town this season, and I can guarantee that their keepers have also made a load of mistakes which have cost them points in the eyes of their supporters. Even the best goalkeeper would still make errors, so even if Muric has cost the team 12pts, then the best keeper may still have cost the team 6pts, we would not be 12pts further up the league, that's an unrealistic and unfair point to make.

I'm not defending Muric and I don't want to be called delusional for making these points, but we are where we are because we are crap, scrambling to catch up with the mega millions clubs in an unfair league, not solely because of Muric. Muric has failed to irradicate errors from his game, his confidence is now low, so it is time for him to be replaced, that's obvious, but he holds as many MOTM awards as Delap and is apparently our 6th best player based on ratings (I'm not going to defend this... I'm just pointing it out :lol:). Goalkeepers at the bottom of the league will always make at least 2x the mistakes of those at the top, they have to get though at least 2x the work. Muric has not been a success, but I think those who class him as an unmitigated disaster are being unfair. It's the same with McKenna looking clueless this year vs a messiah last year, teams/players/managers even flipping supporters appear far worse when their team is at the wrong end the table.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:44 pm

Ricco wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:16 am
Bluemike wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:24 am
Mate without even looking back through the games I can definitely think of more than those Two disasters
Hijacking the point a touch... Leicester, Wolves and Southampton have all conceded more goals than Town this season, and I can guarantee that their keepers have also made a load of mistakes which have cost them points in the eyes of their supporters. Even the best goalkeeper would still make errors, so even if Muric has cost the team 12pts, then the best keeper may still have cost the team 6pts, we would not be 12pts further up the league, that's an unrealistic and unfair point to make.

I'm not defending Muric and I don't want to be called delusional for making these points, but we are where we are because we are crap, scrambling to catch up with the mega millions clubs in an unfair league, not solely because of Muric. Muric has failed to irradicate errors from his game, his confidence is now low, so it is time for him to be replaced, that's obvious, but he holds as many MOTM awards as Delap and is apparently our 6th best player based on ratings (I'm not going to defend this... I'm just pointing it out :lol:). Goalkeepers at the bottom of the league will always make at least 2x the mistakes of those at the top, they have to get though at least 2x the work. Muric has not been a success, but I think those who class him as an unmitigated disaster are being unfair. It's the same with McKenna looking clueless this year vs a messiah last year, teams/players/managers even flipping supporters appear far worse when their team is at the wrong end the table.
And there we have it lol, you negative sod Ricco :D :D :D
All joking aside, I know what you are saying but I do see him as a unmitigated disaster and tbh I am not taken in by these stats although I accept that is what is being stated, it clearly doesn't show an accurate picture for me. what stats don't show is the number of times the distribution goes completely wrong, or the number of times a keeper is rooted to the line and not coming to catch crosses etc, stats are stats and can be interpretated anyway we choose, what I do know is what I see and its not pretty, nor was it pretty at Burnley.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:26 pm

It's going to be interesting to see how the team ( defence?) Respond to a new keeper.
It's what happens in both boxes that's put problem. Not asking our chances when they present, and defending when the ball comes into our box.

Our gireard line is really young and it was notable thst they all make the wrong decision ( when to shoot or pass). They all did it. Hopefully with coChing and experience this will change in the coming months , ( thinking more about next season than this one tbh)

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:44 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:44 pm
what I do know is what I see and its not pretty, nor was it pretty at Burnley.
What I know is that my eyes deceive me, my emotions cloud my judgement and my memory is short and fallible! :lol:

I'm sure the newbie will integrate just fine HB, the defence should already have plenty of understanding between them by now. I don't think errors will be eradicated though, so we'll get Mike's opinion via his critical eyes on Palmer in due course!

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:31 pm

Ricco wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:44 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:44 pm
what I do know is what I see and its not pretty, nor was it pretty at Burnley.
What I know is that my eyes deceive me, my emotions cloud my judgement and my memory is short and fallible! :lol:

I'm sure the newbie will integrate just fine HB, the defence should already have plenty of understanding between them by now. I don't think errors will be eradicated though, so we'll get Mike's opinion via his critical eyes on Palmer in due course!
29 clean sheets in a season and a half is a pretty good start.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:39 pm

Bluemike wrote:
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29 clean sheets in a season and a half is a pretty good start.
Still conceded 47 goals in his last full Championship season, Muric conceded just 35 :wink:

Anyway, we agree to disagree on this I'm sure! I'm just saying I don't think Palmer will be some silver bullet, I think we have far bigger issues that we need to figure out very quickly.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:57 pm

I agree he won't be the saviour by any means but I'm convinced it'll be a bit of an improvement. We also need players other than Delap to actually put the ball in the net.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:04 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:57 pm
I agree he won't be the saviour by any means but I'm convinced it'll be a bit of an improvement. We also need players other than Delap to actually put the ball in the net.
We have one... Szmodics, he just doesn't get played.

Delap - 1783 minutes - 9 goals - 198 minutes per goal
Szmodics - 987 minutes - 4 goals - 246 minutes per goal

It's even a better return than Enciso at a stronger Brighton with his one goal every 391 minutes. Or McKenna's adopted son Hutchinson with one goal every 938 minutes...

Or maybe I should just stop with the stats? :lol:

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:08 pm

Ha ha Ricco is TB's stato boy ...nice one ... :lol:

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Re: January transfers

Post by ashfordblue » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:17 pm

If we are talking about making the right pairing for Delap we have to experiment with what we've got unless, of course, we look around for free-agent strikers who are unattached, I'm sure our scouting lads will search European teams for a suitable applicant.

So, who would work best in the pairing? Hirst is my selection, as he's always been good at holdup play, and his strength is Chaplin alongside.

But I still think KM needs to change his lineups from the predictable 4-2-3-1 to a more interchangeable 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 But as I have already stated there are excellent free-agent strikers out there some are in their 30s but have been there and worn the T-shirt, and could be a real benefit to Delaps goal scoring chances rather than flogging a dead horse upfront ploughing a lone furrow.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:26 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:08 pm
Ha ha Ricco is TB's stato boy ...nice one ... :lol:
I'd imagine about 76% of the forum find my persistent stats insufferable, but I think only 27% of me cares :lol:
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rather than flogging a dead horse upfront ploughing a lone furrow.
You could well be right, not arguing with your opinion, but surely we can drop the two up front proposal now? He hasn't played it in more than 150 games as a manger, you nearly never see it any other club, and we only have Delap and Hirst as front line strikers... I think signals a pretty strong intent from McKenna to never have two up top?

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Re: January transfers

Post by Blue Wilf » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:50 pm

Ricco wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:26 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:08 pm
Ha ha Ricco is TB's stato boy ...nice one ... :lol:
I'd imagine about 76% of the forum find my persistent stats insufferable, but I think only 27% of me cares :lol:
ashfordblue wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:17 pm
rather than flogging a dead horse upfront ploughing a lone furrow.
You could well be right, not arguing with your opinion, but surely we can drop the two up front proposal now? He hasn't played it in more than 150 games as a manger, you nearly never see it any other club, and we only have Delap and Hirst as front line strikers... I think signals a pretty strong intent from McKenna to never have two up top?
100% of me hates your stats Ricco but probably 0% of you cares! 😂 I just know that Muric has been the main talking point from my perspective right from when I stood above him at Man City in out first away game and we went from 0-1 up to 3-1 down purely because of his complete and utter f*ck ups. The rest were just a follow on. I have nothing against him personally and hope he goes on to have a great career somewhere but I am done with him in out team. I would rather we played Chappers in goal than him as at least he could block stuff, pass the ball and hoof it into row Z when needed!

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