Premier League - Aston Villa vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

[arana peligrosa]

First and foremost Palmer was exceptional. League debut and the player was inspired. Maybe just maybe the one signing from here on that will make the difference between survival or league drop. Too early to wonder or expect we've brought in another Lev Yashin but hell that was some performance. Haven't seen no Town keeper make stops like that in some time, without him we would have left Birmingham with no points of that I'm sure.

Delap is going to be pivotal in the months ahead, you'd hope we can hold on to such a valuable asset but don't know which league we'll be in by summer as to where his future lies. The other new players on show, didn't see enough from highlights to fairly award judgment.

Tuanzebe first foul was harsh, the whole send off could have been avoided if not for the first instance. On the whole of it feel we were fortunate to take a point from it. If not for Palmer and the home side seemed to create more chances and goal opportunity, we kind of made the trip back knowing just how easily it came to defeat. Take nothing away however, the players on show showed a certain desire or ambition out there whereas weeks before and with other team players involved a loss would most likely have come to pass. Take or learn what we took from yesterday and reproduce in weeks ahead. It'll provide a fighting chance if nothing else.

[hallamblue]

Delap goal and Town fans

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[ITFC2024]

Delap goal and Town fans

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What amazed me most about that goal was Delap had 3 defenders on him!

[Dubai Blue]

Yes every time I look at that goal I'm more amazed at how he scored that. Really deft touch and yes 3 defenders somehow not able to prevent it. He's scored some great goals this season but in some ways that one might be the best.

Wonderful ball in too, clearly both players knew very well what they were doing and executed to perfection.

[AzzurroMark]

Yes every time I look at that goal I'm more amazed at how he scored that. Really deft touch and yes 3 defenders somehow not able to prevent it. He's scored some great goals this season but in some ways that one might be the best.

Wonderful ball in too, clearly both players knew very well what they were doing and executed to perfection.

I have watched this goal (and celebrations too ) several times and was very surprised Messrs Lineker & Shearer, as former strikers, didn't really mention it on MOTD. I found the whole goal, from the great Johnson cross field pass, to Omari, under pressure, cleverly showing enough composure to gain those inches to allow him to put such a delicious cross into the box. As for Delap, I just cannot see how he managed to get an amazingly controlled touch to beat 3 defenders as well as divert it well clear of Martinez in the Villa goal.

[marko69]

I have watched this goal (and celebrations too ) several times and was very surprised Messrs Lineker & Shearer, as former strikers, didn't really mention it on MOTD. I found the whole goal, from the great Johnson cross field pass, to Omari, under pressure, cleverly showing enough composure to gain those inches to allow him to put such a delicious cross into the box. As for Delap, I just cannot see how he managed to get an amazingly controlled touch to beat 3 defenders as well as divert it well clear of Martinez in the Villa goal.

^^ WORD ^^

[Bluemike]

The guy is Immense, our most valuable player by a country mile, without him we'd be down already. The big problem is he almost certainly goes for big bucks in the Summer no matter what League we are in, and we're back to square one.

[mugen1]

Because both MOTD and Sky don't give a sh*t about us

[AzzurroMark]

Because both MOTD and Sky don't give a sh*t about us

I get that, I truly do and I also agree to a high degree. Media in general love to focus on the bigger clubs and better players, even at a time when those bigger clubs, i.e. Man U and Spurs are consistently struggling. However, in defense of MOTD, they did give a lot of focus to Palmer's fantastic PL debut in goal and didn't greatly give much focus on Villa, (apart from drooling over Rashford on a couple of things, which were in no way near as good as the build up to the Town goal)!

[RRanger]

The guy is Immense, our most valuable player by a country mile, without him we'd be down already. The big problem is he almost certainly goes for big bucks in the Summer no matter what League we are in, and we're back to square one.

I agree Mike that whatever league we're in ,Delap will almost certainly go but I really hope there is a proper auction amongst leading clubs that need a striker. I can think of Arsenal, Man Utd as well as Chelsea and of course Man City have the right to match any bid although as long as they hold on to Haaland I can't think they would be that interested. If there was that sort of auction and considering his age , I'd anticipate at least £80,000,000 and I think even if we were relegated we should still think we could get that much and with the right research we could find a striker from abroad for a fraction of that amount. Also I suspect Delap will be a full international by then . If Brentford can find striking gems , I don't see why we can't.

[Shed on tour]

Certainly think that Delap will go come the summer whatever league we are in. However, have no idea what sort of fee we will get for him as there has been so many different versions of what the deal included when we purchased him from Man City.
The latest one I’ve seen is from the Athletic which claim that City have a buy back clause of forty million pounds. Hopefully that is not the case as if he continues his current form until the end of the season, in today’s market as a striker he is worth more than that.

[hallamblue]

Thing is whatever he goes for won't be enough. I mean, £40m for a player of Delap's quality now but more so, his future end product is frankly chicken feed. He's going to be the next England striker. So what price would you expect to pay for say a 15yrs younger Harry Kane, or Kevin Keegan or Gary Linekar?

[marko69]

Thing is whatever he goes for won't be enough. I mean, £40m for a player of Delap's quality now but more so, his future end product is frankly chicken feed. He's going to be the next England striker. So what price would you expect to pay for saya 15yrs younger Harry Kane, or Kevin Keegan or Gary Linekar?

Yep, and doing a direct comparison to a 15 years younger Harry Kane, Liam Delap is actually much better from what's been witnessed so far.

[mendipblue]

Ipswich will not sell Delap for 40 million. That is 10 million short of his worth.

[Bluemike]

I think the buy back stipulated Man City have to at least match the highest offer we receive, I've certainly not seen a 40 million ceiling on it.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

I think the buy back stipulated Man City have to at least match the highest offer we receive, I've certainly not seen a 40 million ceiling on it.

Well in the interview I saw recently, he said the most important thing for him is to be playing games. At the end of the day, he doesn't have to go anywhere if he doesn't want to.

[Bluemike]

I think the buy back stipulated Man City have to at least match the highest offer we receive, I've certainly not seen a 40 million ceiling on it.

Well in the interview I saw recently, he said the most important thing for him is to be playing games. At the end of the day, he doesn't have to go anywhere if he doesn't want to.

No he doesn't, and I hope to God he doesn't, alas I fear he will be swept along by the euphoria of it all, mega bucks. Potential European football, England call up, a bloody agent barking sh*te in his ear, and possibly KM on his way too.

[Charnwood]

There is definitely a £40m figure mentioned somewhere in the contract but I’m not sure in which context.

[Bluemike]

As part of the move to Ipswich, City also included a 20% sell-on clause as well as a buyback clause in the event the club want the striker to return to the Etihad. It remains to be seen if City will want to act on the buyback clause and what fee would need to be paid if that was to be the case

[Shed on tour]

There is definitely a £40m figure mentioned somewhere in the contract but I’m not sure in which context.

As I said previously the Athletic said that there was a £40m figure and this was in the Manchester evening news. Whether it is true or not who knows.
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[hallamblue]

Does the player get a say in any of this..... God i hate this bloody Plastic League.

[Bluemike]

Man City not looking to re-sign Liam Delap despite buyback clause


Delap has already worked under Pep Guardiola and in the event that he was set to return to the Etihad Stadium, he would unlikely have any problems in adapting to City’s style of play.

The youngster is Premier League-proven at this point too and possesses both the physical and technical attributes to continue performing at the highest level.

However, journalist Ben Jacobs revealed on GiveMeSport’s show, ‘Market Madness’ that Manchester City have no intention of triggering Delap’s clause to re-sign him.


“But he’s only going to improve. I would just add very briefly as well that Man City have got a buyback clause on Liam Delap. But at this stage, there’s no indication that they’re going to take it.But that could be an added wrinkle in all of this as well come the summer, that technically Manchester City can just buy the player back if he agrees.”

“But it doesn’t look like that’s their plan at this stage. And obviously, with Omar Mahmoush arriving and Erling Haaland being the starting nine, if he thought about that option, if it presents itself, he’s not going to get the same game time as at Chelsea, Spurs or Manchester United.”

Earlier this season, Kieran McKenna was unaware about Delap’s buyback clause as per his own admission and as Ben Jacobs claimed, in theory, a deal could be done if both Manchester City and their former player are open to a reunion.

Delap is an outstanding talent and he would improve this Sky Blues side.

But it seems like Manchester City are happy to let other teams have a stab at signing the former Derby County goalscorer, much like in the case of Romeo Lavia.

[hallamblue]

Thanks for that. He'd be barking mad to go back to MC atm wouldn't he.

[Shed on tour]

Thanks for that. He'd be barking mad to go back to MC atm wouldn't he.

I guess it depends what his priority is. If he wants to play regular 1st team football then yes. However, if he is just looking at the financial side of things then a move back to City may very well be tempting. If he does go back there I don’t think it would be long before City would look to sell him on and probably end up making a considerable profit.

[hallamblue]

You last sentence is the thing really. If Delap was currently at one of the top 5 big PL clubs and a club wanted to buy him, they'd be quoted, and expect to pay far more than £40m I feel. So Town should also hold out for far more than £40m bring currently touted....

If he did go to any If the big 5 i foubt he'd be first choice, and if we can stay up, I can see no progress to his career if he moved on. At least here he would be under one if the best young coaches in the game atm, and be almost guaranteed regular games. The grass isn't always greener elsewhere. He's already stated he " absolutely loves it here" ... well see in the summer, I guess.

[ITFC2024]

If/when we do lose Delap, I really hope he doesn’t go to ManU. I used to have a lot of respect for the organization, but I think they have more problems now and I don’t like how the club is being run.

[mugen1]

Because both MOTD and Sky don't give a sh*t about us

I get that, I truly do and I also agree to a high degree. Media in general love to focus on the bigger clubs and better players, even at a time when those bigger clubs, i.e. Man U and Spurs are consistently struggling. However, in defense of MOTD, they did give a lot of focus to Palmer's fantastic PL debut in goal and didn't greatly give much focus on Villa, (apart from drooling over Rashford on a couple of things, which were in no way near as good as the build up to the Town goal)!

Fair play. I saw the Sky coverage and we barely got a mention. Glad MOTD are starting to warm to us

[AzzurroMark]

Glad MOTD are starting to warm to us

Hmm, that might be pushing a bit

[hallamblue]

Just put Delaps so-called valuation into context. I see Dortmund are wanting £85m for an English U21 winger, Jamie Gittens ( so not even a striker) and Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal are all being linked as interested in him. Whilst Leverkusen want £85m for a 21yr old midfielder, I Just Ashton is taking note of all this

[mugen1]

Glad MOTD are starting to warm to us

Hmm, that might be pushing a bit