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Hopes for Parkin???

Post by the-mole » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:16 pm

Right guys - now we seem to be performing better as a side, and with a proper target man in the side what are you expecting from Parkin when he is fit and raring to go?

For me personally I am expecting a to see a completely different player. One who will benefit from flick ons and Lee's strong hold up play. Also with the midfield actually developing into a great unit I feel there will be more opportunites coming the forwards way.

Parkin has had a mixed start to his town career and for a long time was expected to lead the line on his own with no support. Hopefully now we will see what the guy is all about and can see a strong partnership develop which can benefit the club for the next few years!!

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Post by loudnproud » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:31 pm

When Parkin first joined us,I went to all the pre-season games and had a look for myself what all the fuss was about. I was never excited about his play overall but i was startled that Swindon spoke so highly of him, I purchased a DVD from swindon town and watched accordingly.....The Parkin i was watching was not the Parkin in the DVD. The same person yes,but not the same player.It was none of his doing,the service was non-exsistant from us,unlike swindon,As our team confidence is growing now and morale amongst the players is better,Parkin i'm sure will re-discover himself and could be a huge hit.Parkin has no need to wack the ball into the net,He is a placer of the ball,Parkin and Lee is a combination that could work out just fine and with Haynes and forster both keeping them on their toes.....who knows!!

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:06 pm

Agreed L & P !.....Ive lost count of the number of times I defended Sam Parkin against those knocking him as a striker.

My simple comment was ...and still is .....give him the ball to his feet in / around the that box and he will score !!

Cant wait to see it happen - problem is , he has been out of action so long now it will probably take him the rest of the season to get back to something like a striker with his "eye in" for goal !

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Post by Lewis » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:12 pm

Have to agree that with the fresh faces and quicker legs in midfield Parkin should flourish given the proper service. Alan Lee gives him the perfect physical foil and should they remain fit until the end of the season - we will have ourselves a successful front-line partnership.

I personally feel its make or break for Forster at the moment. If his knee breaks down again after a handful of games starting against Leeds then I want the guy released - we can't afford to have sicknotes in our position.

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Post by Luke » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:16 pm

Lewis wrote:Have to agree that with the fresh faces and quicker legs in midfield Parkin should flourish given the proper service. Alan Lee gives him the perfect physical foil and should they remain fit until the end of the season - we will have ourselves a successful front-line partnership.

I personally feel its make or break for Forster at the moment. If his knee breaks down again after a handful of games starting against Leeds then I want the guy released - we can't afford to have sicknotes in our position.
Gotta agree whole heartedly lewis! What is he on 6/7k ? that could fuel a free transfer!

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Post by Townforlife46 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:16 pm

Yeh ok ill agree that parkin and lee would be best. just need to start proving it and getting the goals! lee will be a big player for us and hes proved that playing up top on his own so wiv help he will be even better!

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Post by Bluebird » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:34 pm

Lewis wrote:Have to agree that with the fresh faces and quicker legs in midfield Parkin should flourish given the proper service. Alan Lee gives him the perfect physical foil and should they remain fit until the end of the season - we will have ourselves a successful front-line partnership.
I also agree, to be fair to Parkin, would Michael Owen have looked any good in front of our p*ss poor midfield earlier in the season.

As HB says above, if the lad is given the service, i'm convinced he will score goals and form a decent partnership with Lee.

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Post by Mork » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:36 pm

the-mole wrote:Right guys - now we seem to be performing better as a side, and with a proper target man in the side what are you expecting from Parkin when he is fit and raring to go?

For me personally I am expecting a to see a completely different player. One who will benefit from flick ons and Lee's strong hold up play. Also with the midfield actually developing into a great unit I feel there will be more opportunites coming the forwards way.

Parkin has had a mixed start to his town career and for a long time was expected to lead the line on his own with no support. Hopefully now we will see what the guy is all about and can see a strong partnership develop which can benefit the club for the next few years!!
All I can say is he'll have to be a completely different player, because he didn't demonstrate any particuar skills in what I saw of him at portman road. Poor first touch, poor ball control, poor running, poor reading of the ball, and poor shooting.

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Post by twinpeakes » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:38 pm

Forster Lee & Parkin upfront! sweet!

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Re: Hopes for Parkin???

Post by Bluebird » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:38 pm

Mork wrote:
the-mole wrote:Right guys - now we seem to be performing better as a side, and with a proper target man in the side what are you expecting from Parkin when he is fit and raring to go?

For me personally I am expecting a to see a completely different player. One who will benefit from flick ons and Lee's strong hold up play. Also with the midfield actually developing into a great unit I feel there will be more opportunites coming the forwards way.

Parkin has had a mixed start to his town career and for a long time was expected to lead the line on his own with no support. Hopefully now we will see what the guy is all about and can see a strong partnership develop which can benefit the club for the next few years!!
All I can say is he'll have to be a completely different player, because he didn't demonstrate any particuar skills in what I saw of him at portman road. Poor first touch, poor ball control, poor running, poor reading of the ball, and poor shooting.
Bloody Hell Mork, you really are a cheerful sod! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Mork » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:41 pm

Bluebird wrote:
Mork wrote:
the-mole wrote:Right guys - now we seem to be performing better as a side, and with a proper target man in the side what are you expecting from Parkin when he is fit and raring to go?

For me personally I am expecting a to see a completely different player. One who will benefit from flick ons and Lee's strong hold up play. Also with the midfield actually developing into a great unit I feel there will be more opportunites coming the forwards way.

Parkin has had a mixed start to his town career and for a long time was expected to lead the line on his own with no support. Hopefully now we will see what the guy is all about and can see a strong partnership develop which can benefit the club for the next few years!!
All I can say is he'll have to be a completely different player, because he didn't demonstrate any particuar skills in what I saw of him at portman road. Poor first touch, poor ball control, poor running, poor reading of the ball, and poor shooting.
Bloody Hell Mork, you really are a cheerful sod! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just saying it how I saw it - I hope he wasn't getting the service or the support he needs, but the crowd weren't on his back because they felt like heckling the new guy - he looked lost out there.

Now fair plays, he seemed to do a helluva lot better away from home, but I for one didn't see one of those performances - so if its home nerves or whatever, he needs to overcome em quickly - cos we need 2 regular, fit, strong strikers - Lee looks like he has great potential, but Forster is a sick note, and I really can't seem him featuring much in the next 18 months - so a lot is riding on Big Sam.

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Post by Lewis » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:11 pm

Mork wrote:
the-mole wrote:Right guys - now we seem to be performing better as a side, and with a proper target man in the side what are you expecting from Parkin when he is fit and raring to go?

For me personally I am expecting a to see a completely different player. One who will benefit from flick ons and Lee's strong hold up play. Also with the midfield actually developing into a great unit I feel there will be more opportunites coming the forwards way.

Parkin has had a mixed start to his town career and for a long time was expected to lead the line on his own with no support. Hopefully now we will see what the guy is all about and can see a strong partnership develop which can benefit the club for the next few years!!
All I can say is he'll have to be a completely different player, because he didn't demonstrate any particuar skills in what I saw of him at portman road. Poor first touch, poor ball control, poor running, poor reading of the ball, and poor shooting.
Do you not think it was because he had people like you scrutinising his every move therefore his confidence was shot to pieces?!

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Post by Mork » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:44 pm

Lewis wrote:
Mork wrote:
the-mole wrote:Right guys - now we seem to be performing better as a side, and with a proper target man in the side what are you expecting from Parkin when he is fit and raring to go?

For me personally I am expecting a to see a completely different player. One who will benefit from flick ons and Lee's strong hold up play. Also with the midfield actually developing into a great unit I feel there will be more opportunites coming the forwards way.

Parkin has had a mixed start to his town career and for a long time was expected to lead the line on his own with no support. Hopefully now we will see what the guy is all about and can see a strong partnership develop which can benefit the club for the next few years!!
All I can say is he'll have to be a completely different player, because he didn't demonstrate any particuar skills in what I saw of him at portman road. Poor first touch, poor ball control, poor running, poor reading of the ball, and poor shooting.
Do you not think it was because he had people like you scrutinising his every move therefore his confidence was shot to pieces?!
No.

In a word.

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Post by John » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:59 pm

i'll admit at not being his biggest fans to be honest,he's done nothing to get me excited and looks out his depth in this league.

but i will give him a chance to prove me wrong.

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Post by Ojc » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:59 pm

Mork wrote:
the-mole wrote:Right guys - now we seem to be performing better as a side, and with a proper target man in the side what are you expecting from Parkin when he is fit and raring to go?

For me personally I am expecting a to see a completely different player. One who will benefit from flick ons and Lee's strong hold up play. Also with the midfield actually developing into a great unit I feel there will be more opportunites coming the forwards way.

Parkin has had a mixed start to his town career and for a long time was expected to lead the line on his own with no support. Hopefully now we will see what the guy is all about and can see a strong partnership develop which can benefit the club for the next few years!!
All I can say is he'll have to be a completely different player, because he didn't demonstrate any particuar skills in what I saw of him at portman road. Poor first touch, poor ball control, poor running, poor reading of the ball, and poor shooting.
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Post by Mork » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:04 pm

john_ipsw2 wrote:i'll admit at not being his biggest fans to be honest,he's done nothing to get me excited and looks out his depth in this league.

but i will give him a chance to prove me wrong.
Of course, so will I. I was never one of the boo-boys either.

However, to say that a professional player, whose paid tens of thousands pounds a week to play football in front of a large crowd of supportive fans, whose made a career choice and been doing it for years, fails to deliver a single decent home performance because of nerves brought on my the same expectant fans......and that this might be the fans fault?!?!?!

The mind boggles Lewis, seriously - if that is the case, and its nothing to do with his footballing skills, its even more serious, it shows a serious mental flew meaning he'll never be a good player.

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Post by John » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:10 pm

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john_ipsw2 wrote:i'll admit at not being his biggest fans to be honest,he's done nothing to get me excited and looks out his depth in this league.

but i will give him a chance to prove me wrong.
Of course, so will I. I was never one of the boo-boys either.

However, to say that a professional player, whose paid tens of thousands pounds a week to play football in front of a large crowd of supportive fans, whose made a career choice and been doing it for years, fails to deliver a single decent home performance because of nerves brought on my the same expectant fans......and that this might be the fans fault?!?!?!

The mind boggles Lewis, seriously - if that is the case, and its nothing to do with his footballing skills, its even more serious, it shows a serious mental flew meaning he'll never be a good player.
agree agree agree.

i'd just like to point that out as well,i have never booed parkin,nor the team during or after a game....never,because in my opinion it makes situations worse..... :lol:

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Post by Anglo-Saxon » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:13 pm

john_ipsw2 wrote:
Mork wrote:
john_ipsw2 wrote:i'll admit at not being his biggest fans to be honest,he's done nothing to get me excited and looks out his depth in this league.

but i will give him a chance to prove me wrong.
Of course, so will I. I was never one of the boo-boys either.

However, to say that a professional player, whose paid tens of thousands pounds a week to play football in front of a large crowd of supportive fans, whose made a career choice and been doing it for years, fails to deliver a single decent home performance because of nerves brought on my the same expectant fans......and that this might be the fans fault?!?!?!

The mind boggles Lewis, seriously - if that is the case, and its nothing to do with his footballing skills, its even more serious, it shows a serious mental flew meaning he'll never be a good player.
agree agree agree.

i'd just like to point that out as well,i have never booed parkin,nor the team during or after a game....never,because in my opinion it makes situations worse..... :lol:
I don't boo either, but I'll still say he's crap :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Post by John » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:16 pm

Anglo-Saxon wrote:
john_ipsw2 wrote:
Mork wrote: Of course, so will I. I was never one of the boo-boys either.

However, to say that a professional player, whose paid tens of thousands pounds a week to play football in front of a large crowd of supportive fans, whose made a career choice and been doing it for years, fails to deliver a single decent home performance because of nerves brought on my the same expectant fans......and that this might be the fans fault?!?!?!

The mind boggles Lewis, seriously - if that is the case, and its nothing to do with his footballing skills, its even more serious, it shows a serious mental flew meaning he'll never be a good player.
agree agree agree.

i'd just like to point that out as well,i have never booed parkin,nor the team during or after a game....never,because in my opinion it makes situations worse..... :lol:
I don't boo either, but I'll still say he's crap :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
i'd like to think i'm way off and he will come good,but to be honest,can't see it .

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Post by squiz18 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:22 pm

I just think Parkin was made a scapegoat for the difference between the team last season and the team this season. Everyone seemed to expect parkin to fill the boots of Bent And Kuqi and when he didnt do that in 2 games the crowd starts getting on his back. The ironic cheers whenever he made a header were embarassing. Anyone who saw his goal against QPR or his goals agianst leeds will know he knows where the back of the net is. The team was sh*te then , 4-0 loss at home to Preston shows that but Parkin was singled out. He is still our top scorer, even after those months out.

What gets me is why Bowditch isnt singled out if parkin is. He has played about the same number of games as parkin and hasnt scored once ! Yet the Crowd chant his name whenever he goes near the ball ? Why is that ? I have seen nothing from Bowditch for over a year.

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Post by Mork » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:54 pm

squiz18 wrote:I just think Parkin was made a scapegoat for the difference between the team last season and the team this season. Everyone seemed to expect parkin to fill the boots of Bent And Kuqi and when he didnt do that in 2 games the crowd starts getting on his back. The ironic cheers whenever he made a header were embarassing. Anyone who saw his goal against QPR or his goals agianst leeds will know he knows where the back of the net is. The team was sh*te then , 4-0 loss at home to Preston shows that but Parkin was singled out. He is still our top scorer, even after those months out.

What gets me is why Bowditch isnt singled out if parkin is. He has played about the same number of games as parkin and hasnt scored once ! Yet the Crowd chant his name whenever he goes near the ball ? Why is that ? I have seen nothing from Bowditch for over a year.
Yeah, ok, I'm strongly with you on that one. I look around in bewilderment in the lower north when people start cheering Deano's arrival as the lost saviour or something - guy hasn't done anything of note in over a year, and yet the crowd still seem to think he's the wonderchild - it's no wonder he has the ego the size he has.

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Post by Lewis » Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:21 am

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john_ipsw2 wrote:i'll admit at not being his biggest fans to be honest,he's done nothing to get me excited and looks out his depth in this league.

but i will give him a chance to prove me wrong.
Of course, so will I. I was never one of the boo-boys either.

However, to say that a professional player, whose paid tens of thousands pounds a week to play football in front of a large crowd of supportive fans, whose made a career choice and been doing it for years, fails to deliver a single decent home performance because of nerves brought on my the same expectant fans......and that this might be the fans fault?!?!?!

The mind boggles Lewis, seriously - if that is the case, and its nothing to do with his footballing skills, its even more serious, it shows a serious mental flew meaning he'll never be a good player.
So the ironic cheers when he went up for a header and won it didn't affect him then? Dream on! Think about it, if you know that sections of the crowd are jeering you wouldn't you be a bit self-conscious??!!

And he doesn't get paid tens of thousands a week....

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Post by Mork » Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:48 am

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Mork wrote:
john_ipsw2 wrote:i'll admit at not being his biggest fans to be honest,he's done nothing to get me excited and looks out his depth in this league.

but i will give him a chance to prove me wrong.
Of course, so will I. I was never one of the boo-boys either.

However, to say that a professional player, whose paid tens of thousands pounds a week to play football in front of a large crowd of supportive fans, whose made a career choice and been doing it for years, fails to deliver a single decent home performance because of nerves brought on my the same expectant fans......and that this might be the fans fault?!?!?!

The mind boggles Lewis, seriously - if that is the case, and its nothing to do with his footballing skills, its even more serious, it shows a serious mental flew meaning he'll never be a good player.
So the ironic cheers when he went up for a header and won it didn't affect him then? Dream on! Think about it, if you know that sections of the crowd are jeering you wouldn't you be a bit self-conscious??!!

And he doesn't get paid tens of thousands a week....
If it did affect him, then that's his own problem and as big a problem as the footballing skills side. Let's remember players who have put up a with a helluva lot more than that, and the abuse players get away from home, who perform time after time - if this is going to seriously upset their performance, then they have no place on the pitch in the first place.

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Post by Lewis » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:32 am

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Lewis wrote:
Mork wrote: Of course, so will I. I was never one of the boo-boys either.

However, to say that a professional player, whose paid tens of thousands pounds a week to play football in front of a large crowd of supportive fans, whose made a career choice and been doing it for years, fails to deliver a single decent home performance because of nerves brought on my the same expectant fans......and that this might be the fans fault?!?!?!

The mind boggles Lewis, seriously - if that is the case, and its nothing to do with his footballing skills, its even more serious, it shows a serious mental flew meaning he'll never be a good player.
So the ironic cheers when he went up for a header and won it didn't affect him then? Dream on! Think about it, if you know that sections of the crowd are jeering you wouldn't you be a bit self-conscious??!!

And he doesn't get paid tens of thousands a week....
If it did affect him, then that's his own problem and as big a problem as the footballing skills side. Let's remember players who have put up a with a helluva lot more than that, and the abuse players get away from home, who perform time after time - if this is going to seriously upset their performance, then they have no place on the pitch in the first place.
Name 3 players who put up with worse than what Parkin has had to put up with? Cos I sure cant.....!

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Post by Mork » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:38 am

Lewis wrote:
Mork wrote:
Lewis wrote: So the ironic cheers when he went up for a header and won it didn't affect him then? Dream on! Think about it, if you know that sections of the crowd are jeering you wouldn't you be a bit self-conscious??!!

And he doesn't get paid tens of thousands a week....
If it did affect him, then that's his own problem and as big a problem as the footballing skills side. Let's remember players who have put up a with a helluva lot more than that, and the abuse players get away from home, who perform time after time - if this is going to seriously upset their performance, then they have no place on the pitch in the first place.
Name 3 players who put up with worse than what Parkin has had to put up with? Cos I sure cant.....!
What about players who swap between great rivals and then have to go play at their old grounds? Man they have taken abuse on a different league from what Parkins got and in many cases, still performed or even over-performed. What about Beckham after the 98 world cup fiasco? Every club in the land gave him so much sh*t it was untrue, and he still proved what a fantastic player he was.

Compare that to a few dozen boo-boys jeering some pretty poor play to Parkin, and that's why he doesn't appear to be any good?

The last game he played at Portman road, the crowd made a definite attempt to get behind him, and cheer him on - and the booing did/had stopped - didn't appear to make any difference to his performance however.

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Post by Townforlife46 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:57 am

we all must give him 1 more chance but if he fails to prove up to our expectations we could be in a bit of a problem. sick note fozzie is a bit of a problem and deano cant score and haynes is too young atm. i dunno what to think of mcdonald.

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Post by Lewis » Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:01 am

Mork wrote:
Lewis wrote:
Mork wrote: If it did affect him, then that's his own problem and as big a problem as the footballing skills side. Let's remember players who have put up a with a helluva lot more than that, and the abuse players get away from home, who perform time after time - if this is going to seriously upset their performance, then they have no place on the pitch in the first place.
Name 3 players who put up with worse than what Parkin has had to put up with? Cos I sure cant.....!
What about players who swap between great rivals and then have to go play at their old grounds? Man they have taken abuse on a different league from what Parkins got and in many cases, still performed or even over-performed. What about Beckham after the 98 world cup fiasco? Every club in the land gave him so much sh*t it was untrue, and he still proved what a fantastic player he was.

Compare that to a few dozen boo-boys jeering some pretty poor play to Parkin, and that's why he doesn't appear to be any good?

The last game he played at Portman road, the crowd made a definite attempt to get behind him, and cheer him on - and the booing did/had stopped - didn't appear to make any difference to his performance however.
I meant 3 ITFC past players...

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Post by squiz18 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:50 am

Mork wrote:
Lewis wrote:
Mork wrote: If it did affect him, then that's his own problem and as big a problem as the footballing skills side. Let's remember players who have put up a with a helluva lot more than that, and the abuse players get away from home, who perform time after time - if this is going to seriously upset their performance, then they have no place on the pitch in the first place.
Name 3 players who put up with worse than what Parkin has had to put up with? Cos I sure cant.....!


The last game he played at Portman road, the crowd made a definite attempt to get behind him, and cheer him on - and the booing did/had stopped - didn't appear to make any difference to his performance however.
TO be fair he was playing well that game and looked like he had a goal in him, but then he broke his foot half an hour into the game.

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