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Re: Why does everyone rave about Currie -He's rubbish and a

Post by the-mole » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:30 am

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hallamblue wrote: Your post is naturally your "opinion" and thats fine - however you appear to demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of central function / role that Currie performed during the match. He was frankly "orchestrating" the midfield and continually "setting up" the forwards attacking options on the scum defence - if you really couldnt see that then maybe should take up watching dominos or even norwich since they lacked tactical awareness and a know how of the basic fundmentals of football !
Bloody Hell HB, whats rattled your cage? :lol: :lol:

I think your guilty of both exagerating Currie's performance against a p*ss poor side, and insulting a fellow blue. Surely we allowed to have differing opinions.
For what its worth Currie played one of his better games, but as people have already posted, he is rarely given as much time and space as he was a carrot road. But as for him "orchestrating" the game, leave it out! :lol: :wink:
He did orchestrate the game, if you want to put it that way. Christ, even Dazza's quality post from NorwichCityMad, with the most biased, p*ss-poor report about how we "stole" the game from the poor hard-done by uber-skilled Norwich team, made a nod to the fact that Curry pretty much dominated the game for us :)
The people that won the game for us yesterday were Garvan and Juan - they do alot of hard grafting which goes un-noticed!!!

Yes Currie had a good game - he wasn't a world beater by any means. He had two excellent strikes and generally seemed up for it - at one point I thought I saw him running :D .

In all seriousness though. The strength in our side is the midfield pairing in the middle. They are covering the pitch and covering other players. Jimmy Juan was running the show yesterday and was the one orchastrating the midfield. At this moment in time I doubt there is a better central midfield pairing in this division than Juan and Garvan.

Also add the energy and renewed form of richards into the mix and it isn't hard to see why we are performing better.

Currie has had some poor games along with other players in the squad, but he is only a part of the ITFC machine and IMO not the most important part. Since Garvan and Juan have been paired together we have looked awesome. Their improving partnership is only benefiting the likes of Currie and this is when a good team starts to show what they can do!!!

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Re: Why does everyone rave about Currie -He's rubbish and a

Post by Mork » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:33 am

the-mole wrote:
Mork wrote:
Bluebird wrote: Bloody Hell HB, whats rattled your cage? :lol: :lol:

I think your guilty of both exagerating Currie's performance against a p*ss poor side, and insulting a fellow blue. Surely we allowed to have differing opinions.
For what its worth Currie played one of his better games, but as people have already posted, he is rarely given as much time and space as he was a carrot road. But as for him "orchestrating" the game, leave it out! :lol: :wink:
He did orchestrate the game, if you want to put it that way. Christ, even Dazza's quality post from NorwichCityMad, with the most biased, p*ss-poor report about how we "stole" the game from the poor hard-done by uber-skilled Norwich team, made a nod to the fact that Curry pretty much dominated the game for us :)
The people that won the game for us yesterday were Garvan and Juan - they do alot of hard grafting which goes un-noticed!!!

Yes Currie had a good game - he wasn't a world beater by any means. He had two excellent strikes and generally seemed up for it - at one point I thought I saw him running :D .

In all seriousness though. The strength in our side is the midfield pairing in the middle. They are covering the pitch and covering other players. Jimmy Juan was running the show yesterday and was the one orchastrating the midfield. At this moment in time I doubt there is a better central midfield pairing in this division than Juan and Garvan.

Also add the energy and renewed form of richards into the mix and it isn't hard to see why we are performing better.

Currie has had some poor games along with other players in the squad, but he is only a part of the ITFC machine and IMO not the most important part. Since Garvan and Juan have been paired together we have looked awesome. Their improving partnership is only benefiting the likes of Currie and this is when a good team starts to show what they can do!!!
I don't think anybody is arguing that Curry is the be all and end all of our good performances (I certainly am not), but he is not in any way, our weakest link.

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Post by the-mole » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:35 am

ok Mork - if you had to drop one of the 4 midfield players from yesterday who would it have been???

Richards, Juan, Garvan or Currie???

For me the 3 first mentioned players offer a better overall contribution. Currie played a good game yesterday - he was hardly the world beater the sky analysts were claiming.

His game was made easier by the hard work put in by the other 3 players and the sheer lack of tactical awareness Norwich displayed!! Had norwich offered more in the way of tough resistence I seriously doubt Currie would have had the impact he had.

We had a fair few corners and he didn't deliver one telling ball into the box from those set pieces which is very worrying!!

It seems we have pro or anti currie fans. The pro's don't seem to see his weaknesses - and the anti struggle to see his strengths. There is no doubt the lad has quality - but how many times has he looked dis-interested??? His best role IMO is to be given a free role to roam and do as he pleases - with 3 solid midfielders supporting him like Juan, Richards and Garvan. That is the only way IMO we will ever see the best of him and for both sides to judge him properly!!!

Still hopefully with improved form throughout the pitch we will see the best of what both Currie and the team can offer!!

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Post by Ojc » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:43 pm

So the question is, where does Skard fit into all this? I seriously hope Royle is'nt banking on him replacing Richards at the end of the season.

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he's not that bad!

Post by millsie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:30 pm

At the beginning of the season I would have agreed with you. He is slow and in some games i haven't actually noticed him on the pitch until the final whistle and he walks past my sit into the tunnel. Although, what i haven't failed to notice is on a lot of occasions recently the blokes slow step overs and indecisiveness has carved open teams defences. The game up in inbred road showed just how influentual he can be if the rest of the team plays around him and BFJ uses Currie wisely. STicking him out on the wing really doesn't do him justice, esspecially if the ball isn't getting to him, he should have a free role as he did at the beginning of the scum match, we all saw what he is capable of, and i hope you all agree!
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Re: he's not that bad!

Post by Riviera » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:37 pm

millsie wrote:At the beginning of the season I would have agreed with you. He is slow and in some games i haven't actually noticed him on the pitch until the final whistle and he walks past my sit into the tunnel. Although, what i haven't failed to notice is on a lot of occasions recently the blokes slow step overs and indecisiveness has carved open teams defences. The game up in inbred road showed just how influentual he can be if the rest of the team plays around him and BFJ uses Currie wisely. STicking him out on the wing really doesn't do him justice, esspecially if the ball isn't getting to him, he should have a free role as he did at the beginning of the scum match, we all saw what he is capable of, and i hope you all agree!
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millsie, i agree with some of that, but can we actually afford to have a player playing a free role at this stage of the season? we need everyone knuckling down and giving 100%, im affraid currie doesnt always give 100% well at least he doesnt seem to

i think he played very well yesterday but i think most of that was down to the fact that the scummers gave him acre's of room to play in

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Re: he's not that bad!

Post by Lewis » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:46 pm

Riviera wrote:
millsie wrote:At the beginning of the season I would have agreed with you. He is slow and in some games i haven't actually noticed him on the pitch until the final whistle and he walks past my sit into the tunnel. Although, what i haven't failed to notice is on a lot of occasions recently the blokes slow step overs and indecisiveness has carved open teams defences. The game up in inbred road showed just how influentual he can be if the rest of the team plays around him and BFJ uses Currie wisely. STicking him out on the wing really doesn't do him justice, esspecially if the ball isn't getting to him, he should have a free role as he did at the beginning of the scum match, we all saw what he is capable of, and i hope you all agree!
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millsie, i agree with some of that, but can we actually afford to have a player playing a free role at this stage of the season? we need everyone knuckling down and giving 100%, im affraid currie doesnt always give 100% well at least he doesnt seem to

i think he played very well yesterday but i think most of that was down to the fact that the scummers gave him acre's of room to play in

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Have to agree with Riv here. It is clear Currie definitely had one of his better games in a Town shirt but I dont see him as a consistent performer in that free role - he simply wont have that same time and space in other games.

I also couldn't believe some people at the game cheering because he won a header at one point during the game. To me that just proves what a joke he is with the physical side of the game. Yes, he has good technical ability, probably the best in the team at present but one game won't make me believe that doesn't merit a first team place.

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Re: he's not that bad!

Post by Riviera » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:49 pm

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millsie wrote:At the beginning of the season I would have agreed with you. He is slow and in some games i haven't actually noticed him on the pitch until the final whistle and he walks past my sit into the tunnel. Although, what i haven't failed to notice is on a lot of occasions recently the blokes slow step overs and indecisiveness has carved open teams defences. The game up in inbred road showed just how influentual he can be if the rest of the team plays around him and BFJ uses Currie wisely. STicking him out on the wing really doesn't do him justice, esspecially if the ball isn't getting to him, he should have a free role as he did at the beginning of the scum match, we all saw what he is capable of, and i hope you all agree!
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millsie, i agree with some of that, but can we actually afford to have a player playing a free role at this stage of the season? we need everyone knuckling down and giving 100%, im affraid currie doesnt always give 100% well at least he doesnt seem to

i think he played very well yesterday but i think most of that was down to the fact that the scummers gave him acre's of room to play in

welcome to the site
Have to agree with Riv here. It is clear Currie definitely had one of his better games in a Town shirt but I dont see him as a consistent performer in that free role - he simply wont have that same time and space in other games.

I also couldn't believe some people at the game cheering because he won a header at one point during the game. To me that just proves what a joke he is with the physical side of the game. Yes, he has good technical ability, probably the best in the team at present but one game won't make me believe that doesn't merit a first team place.

:shock: :shock:

1st time for everything :lol:

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Post by millsie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:51 pm

i do agree with both of you. Me and the lads i sit around are constantly mocking currie and his lack of...most things...but in comparison to a player like magilton, he is god's gift. By the way, my personal opinion is that magilton should have retired at the end of last season, he hasn't played a convincing performance this season!
Thanx for the welcome guys and i will be continuing to post my opinions on here!
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Post by Riviera » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:54 pm

millsie wrote:i do agree with both of you. Me and the lads i sit around are constantly mocking currie and his lack of...most things...but in comparison to a player like magilton, he is god's gift. By the way, my personal opinion is that magilton should have retired at the end of last season, he hasn't played a convincing performance this season!
Thanx for the welcome guys and i will be continuing to post my opinions on here!
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i think most fans will agree with u on that point, but it was always going to be difficult replacing him and deciding when he should take a step back, in Juan we have found the creativity magic gave us when he was sharper and fitter, not to mention younger lol

just need Juan tied down to a long term contract now

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Re: he's not that bad!

Post by squiz18 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:08 pm

Riviera wrote:
millsie wrote:At the beginning of the season I would have agreed with you. He is slow and in some games i haven't actually noticed him on the pitch until the final whistle and he walks past my sit into the tunnel. Although, what i haven't failed to notice is on a lot of occasions recently the blokes slow step overs and indecisiveness has carved open teams defences. The game up in inbred road showed just how influentual he can be if the rest of the team plays around him and BFJ uses Currie wisely. STicking him out on the wing really doesn't do him justice, esspecially if the ball isn't getting to him, he should have a free role as he did at the beginning of the scum match, we all saw what he is capable of, and i hope you all agree!
Millsie
millsie, i agree with some of that, but can we actually afford to have a player playing a free role at this stage of the season? we need everyone knuckling down and giving 100%, im affraid currie doesnt always give 100% well at least he doesnt seem to
I think thats what the problem with Currie is He doesn't always seem to be putting the effort in. But i think he does, He just doesnt have the pace to track back that well or put a tackle in. Ive been watching him more closely for the past few months cause of all the fuss made over him and you can see him really trying. His arms are pumping and his legs are going, but he just isnt quick enough. When he has the ball however he compensates for the lack of pace with neat tricks that let him beat players, or get the space for the perfect cross. He was involved in haynes goal yesterday with a cross. I think the number of set ups he has alone this season especially as goals have been hard to come by, fully justifies him being in the side this season.

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Post by Dubai Blue » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:34 pm

Some interesting points there and I feel obliged to toss in my 4 penneth :lol:

For the record I am neither fan nor hater of Currie. I would love to see JR find a creator like him (because the stats show that he does create/assist more than average) but with more pace and I think that this could be a priority for next season.

Juan and Garvan are awesome and this is extremely positive but they are not playmakers, they set the stage for others to apply the skill that produces many of the goals.

Magilton has had a couple of great games this year and can still do a job on an infrequent basis but he is now an emergency option in the same way that some of the kids were (according to some on here) earlier inthe season. I don't think you can say that Juan is the new Magilton since I think they are from different moulds.

Don't all great midfields have a talented creator who we love for his skill and ability to create chances & unlock defences. Don't these great midfielders get mocked (affectionately) for being a bit slow to track back and volunteer for the crunching tackle ?

I think somebody hit the nail on the head when they said that we can now field a midfield of 3 solid guys and a tart and the tart can win us games. I don't have a problem with having a tart in the team but let's keep an eye open for a faster tart eh :wink:

BTW please stop talking about Skard for now. He is a long term buy. So what if Spurs were confused as to why we should want him. It takes more than 11 players to make a squad and more than a few kick abouts to get used to our game. If I'm proved wrong then I will be happy but I wouldn't be betting on Skard until well into next season.

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Post by Mork » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:59 pm

the-mole wrote:ok Mork - if you had to drop one of the 4 midfield players from yesterday who would it have been???

Richards, Juan, Garvan or Currie???

For me the 3 first mentioned players offer a better overall contribution. Currie played a good game yesterday - he was hardly the world beater the sky analysts were claiming.

His game was made easier by the hard work put in by the other 3 players and the sheer lack of tactical awareness Norwich displayed!! Had norwich offered more in the way of tough resistence I seriously doubt Currie would have had the impact he had.

We had a fair few corners and he didn't deliver one telling ball into the box from those set pieces which is very worrying!!

It seems we have pro or anti currie fans. The pro's don't seem to see his weaknesses - and the anti struggle to see his strengths. There is no doubt the lad has quality - but how many times has he looked dis-interested??? His best role IMO is to be given a free role to roam and do as he pleases - with 3 solid midfielders supporting him like Juan, Richards and Garvan. That is the only way IMO we will ever see the best of him and for both sides to judge him properly!!!

Still hopefully with improved form throughout the pitch we will see the best of what both Currie and the team can offer!!
For me, that is our best midfield - and it's my first chioce now, having seen it in action. But I like westlake, and I see westlake coming in for Curry firstly, but he could take either of the central positions if needed. This is in fact a great thing, as it shows we have some depth at last.

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Post by Lewis » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:00 pm

I personally think our best midfield is Richards, Juan, Garvan and Williams.

Having Currie and Westlake on the bench to bring on shows our squad is certainly improving in depth.

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Post by squiz18 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:11 pm

Dubai Blue wrote: BTW please stop talking about Skard for now. He is a long term buy. So what if Spurs were confused as to why we should want him. It takes more than 11 players to make a squad and more than a few kick abouts to get used to our game. If I'm proved wrong then I will be happy but I wouldn't be betting on Skard until well into next season.
When did spurs say that ? . Wern't spurs interested in him ?

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Post by Dubai Blue » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:57 am

'Interested in him' is journospeak. We don't know how this 'interest' manifested itself. Mention of him during a phone call, some comment during a meeting or a game. And we don't know how the information came to attention of the media, or why, or who wanted it to.

All in all I wouldn't waste any time thinking about it. Spurs also scout for possible new talent - it doesn't mean they think he could slot into their first team today or any time in the near future.

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Post by jjlj_itfc4eva » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:58 am

Bluebird wrote:I'm not Currie's greatest fan! :shock: :lol: :lol: :wink:

But to be fair, IMHO I thought he played well today.
Couldnt agree more. Most of the time I think that Currie plays crap, but today he was a close second for my motm. (although his running is still comicall)

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Post by the-mole » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:57 am

Lewis wrote:I personally think our best midfield is Richards, Juan, Garvan and Williams.

Having Currie and Westlake on the bench to bring on shows our squad is certainly improving in depth.
Gotta agree totally with that midfield four!!!

ENough solid dependability and creativity to take on the best this division has to offer - and with the likes of Westlake and Currie vying for a place in the side - the only winner is ITFC at the end of the day!

That doesn't include the likes of Skaard, Mini Mac, Peters and of course Danny Haynes!!!

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