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Charnwood
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by Charnwood » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:29 pm
shabba wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:26 pm
Charnwood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:25 pm
shabba wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:59 pm
I thought they wanted double that - £34m
For £17m he’d be a steal ? ….
Unsure where the 17m comes from, agree we'd take him at 20m or less, but they will want 30+.
If looks to me like he could well be on his way to Chelsea

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by shabba » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:30 pm
ashfordblue wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:53 pm
I think if we offered Leeds £30 million for Gnonto and Summerville they might snatch our arm off as they have a job selling them at the moment
I personally highly doubt that. They sold Archie grey for a big fee so probably aren’t desperate to sell - not at low prices like that.
Maybe 25m for Summerville but surely someone like palace with £50m in their pocket from the Olise sale might go for him.
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by shabba » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:32 pm
ITFC2024 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:12 pm
ashfordblue wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:53 pm
BLUEBLOOD wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:02 pm
They still have not signed him the last time I checked.
He's gone back to Villa for £13 million on a dodgy buyback arrangement, Hull City owner is P*****d off with this arrangement as it didn't come under the buy-back terms laid out when they brought him for £5 million
If Villa are smart, they’ll offer him up for a loan move. Completely understand the Hull owners being aggravated.
Zero chance of a loan. They are selling Diaby to Saudi for big money, plus they desperately need home grown players to meet the quota for champions league squad registration rules. Philogene counts towards that.
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by shabba » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:33 pm
Charnwood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:29 pm
shabba wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:26 pm
Charnwood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:25 pm
For £17m he’d be a steal ? ….
Unsure where the 17m comes from, agree we'd take him at 20m or less, but they will want 30+.
If looks to me like he could well be on his way to Chelsea
Haha - how many wingers do they need there!
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by hallamblue » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:47 pm
Just seen our new GK, Aro, being welcomed by the rest of the Town squad on a FB video
( official Town one), he is an absolute unit of a man!! His hands are like shovels

and he towers above most other Town players….
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by shabba » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:58 pm
He looks huge! I see he is 6ft 6.
It’s weird how being just a bit taller than the normal size range makes such a difference- it was the same when you saw Kieffer Moore.
I’m 6ft 3 which I’d say is the upper limit of the ‘normal size range’ - sometimes I feel tall but generally wouldn’t say it’s noticeable. Anyone taller really seems to stand out!
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by hallamblue » Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:09 pm
I’m 5ft 5ins (used to be 5ft 6 n a bit) …. Does that count as tall lol
Right, come on …. Height of TB posters reveal time
Shabba 6ft 3in
Hallam 5ft 5in
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by Blue Wilf » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:22 pm
190 cm - so about 6 foot 3 inches
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by marko69 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:00 am
6’9” in circumference.
4’8” vertically.
It’s a very unique look.
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by Charnwood » Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:05 am
Arijanet Anan Muric
DOB
7 November 1998 (age 25)
Born
Schlieren, Switzerland
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1.98 m (6 ft 6 in)
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Goalkeeper
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by Ricco » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:57 am
I'm 6'3 too, should probably start a 6'3 sub-forum for us discuss leg room and trouser length issues.
Muric looks very interesting, potentially spectacular, but also a little risky. He had very good reports from his 10 games in the Prem, other than in two, where howlers cost a goal in each.
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by Bluemike » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:07 am
I keep reading about a keeper who commands his box, well sorry, he doesn't.
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by Ricco » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:27 am
Bluemike wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:07 am
I keep reading about a keeper who commands his box, well sorry, he doesn't.
How are you generally feeling about the signings so far? I'm not too on it, I've tried to stay out of things and 'wait and see'. Apart from Greaves, I'm not overly excited, I've just seen what we paid for Delap, I think that's awful business, especially when there was hope of Philogene at that price, and the other signings fall somewhere in-between...
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by Bluemike » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:52 am
I'm happy with the signings so far, Greaves & Hutchinson in particular but of course Hutchinson was already here last season so that doesn't exactly strengthen us at all, I think Greaves is an excellent signing.
Johnson is very good business on a free and he has Premier League experience which will definitely be of benefit to us.
Delap has some very good attributes which I believe will blossom under KM, however his scoring record is a bit concerning and for me the price we paid is way too much.
Muric has me undecided, I've read a lot of Burnley fans opinions, some love him, some think he's a liability and will cost us points which we can ill afford. Even the pro Burnley fans concede he has errors in him, they also say it's odd that for such a big guy he doesn't command his area which is a big disappointment for me, hopefully Rene Gilmartin will work on that area of his game because we are definitely going to need that from him.
All in all I'm just ok with the business we have done, I'm not wowed by it, the next Four or Five additions could well define our season.
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by shabba » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:02 pm
Exactly as I see it too Mike
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by Cabanas Blue » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:22 pm
The way I see it we are doing it right with young players who's value should increase, had we bought for example Smith Rowe and Nketiah with there wages that would have used most of our transfer funds.
If we were to get relegated we will have a very good chance of promotion back to the Premier.
Muric and Delap are a slight worry for me and it seems that Rushworth was first choice but in KMc we trust
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by Ricco » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:57 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:52 am
Muric has me undecided, I've read a lot of Burnley fans opinions, some love him, some think he's a liability and will cost us points which we can ill afford. Even the pro Burnley fans concede he has errors in him, they also say it's odd that for such a big guy he doesn't command his area which is a big disappointment for me, hopefully Rene Gilmartin will work on that area of his game because we are definitely going to need that from him.
All the signings are a good age, so likely to be improving, we'll hope for the same with Muric. 25 is still young for a keeper and he looks extremely athletic for someone so tall, apparently he is ok with his feet too and so hopefully the errors were just inexperience and getting up to speed. It is a worry with commanding the area, it's one of the few things that can't really be taught easily in my opinion, so we shall see and cross our fingers.
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by hallamblue » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:24 pm
I think Town are buying these young players with a view to improving them both on the field and their off field value. Hirst has improved under us with out doubt. Is he going top transition to PL? Who knows. But in truth , how many of last season's squad will make that transition successfully ? We just don't know yet, but we what we all do know, is it will be a tough task that lies ahead. So I wouldn't be writing these new players off just yet because we really don't know too much about them as people or players do we. Are we finished recruiting ? Unlikely, and if we can see shortcomings in the squad/ team coverage , you can bet your butt, so can McKenna / Ashton.
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by shabba » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:48 pm
Ricco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:57 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:52 am
Muric has me undecided, I've read a lot of Burnley fans opinions, some love him, some think he's a liability and will cost us points which we can ill afford. Even the pro Burnley fans concede he has errors in him, they also say it's odd that for such a big guy he doesn't command his area which is a big disappointment for me, hopefully Rene Gilmartin will work on that area of his game because we are definitely going to need that from him.
All the signings are a good age, so likely to be improving, we'll hope for the same with Muric. 25 is still young for a keeper and he looks extremely athletic for someone so tall, apparently he is ok with his feet too and so hopefully the errors were just inexperience and getting up to speed. It is a worry with commanding the area, it's one of the few things that can't really be taught easily in my opinion, so we shall see and cross our fingers.
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by shabba » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:50 pm
There is areally good and analytical review of Muric via the blue monday podcast, they go into his stats vs Hladkey and it seems stats-wise he is way above, collects more crosses, stops more shots that should be goals etc.
I know stats isn't everyones bag, but it was a good listen and maybe shows why we are signing him.
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by Bluemike » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:05 pm
A relegation busy as hell keeper versus a promotion winning not anywhere near as much to do keeper, probably not the best comparison but it's good that he has good stats, I'm sure he'll improve his weaknesses and be fine.
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by hallamblue » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:52 pm
But, if Town are going to be up against it in a fair few games these season, his experience of backs against the wall type goal keeping may prove in valuable.
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by ashfordblue » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:45 pm
Let us put it this way your keeper is only as good as the defence in front of him if we have a strong defence and midfield that should help the keeper. The one side which was always our weakest was on the right with our wing backs going walkabout and this was rectified when Axel took over. Still, Clarke would often get drawn into the centre midfield, and leave our right side wide open when the opposition counter-attacked, many a goal against us came that way, but I'm sure Kieran will pan out any weakness, as I see it our main back four R to L Ben Johnson, Axel Tuanzebe, Jacob Greaves, Leif Davis plus whoever else they bring in until the window closes. The 4 friendlies we have arranged should see how we perform with the new additions.
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by Charnwood » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:01 pm
ashfordblue wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:45 pm
Let us put it this way your keeper is only as good as the defence in front of him if we have a strong defence and midfield that should help the keeper. The one side which was always our weakest was on the right with our wing backs going walkabout and this was rectified when Axel took over. Still, Clarke would often get drawn into the centre midfield, and leave our right side wide open when the opposition counter-attacked, many a goal against us came that way, but I'm sure Kieran will pan out any weakness, as I see it our main back four R to L Ben Johnson, Axel Tuanzebe, Jacob Greaves, Leif Davis plus whoever else they bring in until the window closes. The 4 friendlies we have arranged should see how we perform with the new additions.
On paper I’d be happy with that AB. Let’s see how it pans out in friendlies.
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by ITFC2024 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:37 pm
We’ve spent quite a lot of money so far. Is it possible the ownership is pausing spending to re-evaluate the strategy? Who would have thought 15mil for a goal keeper! And of course Omari’s ridiculous fee. Add Delap to the equation…maybe the Americans are puckering a bit?
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by shabba » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:36 pm
ITFC2024 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:37 pm
We’ve spent quite a lot of money so far. Is it possible the ownership is pausing spending to re-evaluate the strategy? Who would have thought 15mil for a goal keeper! And of course Omari’s ridiculous fee. Add Delap to the equation…maybe the Americans are puckering a bit?
Honestly where do these thoughts come from??
The owners would set a budget and Aston and co will adhere to it, the owners didn’t come over to convince KM to stay and give him 5m a year to ‘pucker up’ a few weeks into the transfer window.
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by Charnwood » Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:09 pm
shabba wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:36 pm
ITFC2024 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:37 pm
We’ve spent quite a lot of money so far. Is it possible the ownership is pausing spending to re-evaluate the strategy? Who would have thought 15mil for a goal keeper! And of course Omari’s ridiculous fee. Add Delap to the equation…maybe the Americans are puckering a bit?
Honestly where do these thoughts come from??
The owners would set a budget and Aston and co will adhere to it, the owners didn’t come over to convince KM to stay and give him 5m a year to ‘pucker up’ a few weeks into the transfer window.
If they were worried about spending I think we’d have signed 37 year old Kasper Schmeichel on a free rather than pay £15m for Arijanet Muric. The upside is we could get 15 years more service out of Muric which would make his fee very cost effective.
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by Mauswara » Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:13 pm
ITFC2024 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:37 pm
We’ve spent quite a lot of money so far. Is it possible the ownership is pausing spending to re-evaluate the strategy? Who would have thought 15mil for a goal keeper! And of course Omari’s ridiculous fee. Add Delap to the equation…maybe the Americans are puckering a bit?
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by Cabanas Blue » Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:30 pm
We are pleased to announce the signing of experienced goalkeeper Václav Hladký on a two-year deal
The 33-year-old joins the Clarets on a free transfer, after the Czech’s contract with newly promoted Ipswich Town expired this summer.
They paid a lot of money for Trafford I wonder if Hladky will be first choice.
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by AzzurroMark » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:59 pm
Cabanas Blue wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:30 pm
We are pleased to announce the signing of experienced goalkeeper Václav Hladký on a two-year deal
The 33-year-old joins the Clarets on a free transfer, after the Czech’s contract with newly promoted Ipswich Town expired this summer.
They paid a lot of money for Trafford I wonder if Hladky will be first choice.
So he settled for a 2 year contract in the end! I know there's not much else a new signing can say, but I get pretty fed up with all this " I knew it was the place for me" etc! A bit disappointed in him in truth, yes he made mistakes but was generally pretty fantastic with ball at feet and working the press well to get us moving up the pitch.
Oh well, we move on.