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Post by Charnwood » Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:25 am

ITFC2024 wrote:
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I can’t think of any player we could off load for even a third of £45m
Guessing you mean "spend" , ITFC24? I agree with you there, ........, think many fans would be more than a little irritated if that sort of dough was splashed on ONE player in the FIRST season back in the EPL. And the USA pension holders would have sweat running out their buttcracks.
Yeah, that’s what I meant

I guess if I’d read the previous posts I’d have worked that out for myself. I agree we should most definitely not be spending irresponsibly although to be fair Matteo Serini is the only Ipswich signing I can think of that falls into this category (Marko might disagree but TP did only cost £1.7m).
Mind you if we could find an Erling Haarland for £50m like Man City did it would probably be worth it, although to be honest we shouldn’t really be looking to spend much over £15m for any individual.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:56 am

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/carl- ... velopment/

New goalkeeper? Paper talk I reckon.

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Post by shabba » Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:17 am

Might be something in that, he is fairly well rated I think.
I’d suspect he would be second choice though, depends who ends up staying - ie Walton may be sold.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:30 am

Yes there could be something in it, would happily see Walton move on.

Regarding a lot of what I am reading on social media etc I have to say its crazy, if anyone seriously thinks we'll be splashing 10, 12, 15, 20 Million on any player you're nuts I'm afraid, it isn't just the signing of someone for that amount, it's then the ridiculous weekly wage they'll demand, it's not going to happen. In truth 100 Million doesn't exactly go far in the Premier league.

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Post by Shed on tour » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:03 am

Yep seen this rumour on several links regarding this keeper. Ashton&Co are certainly going to be earning their wages this coming window as they have to keep the finances under control and also make sure that the unity of the squad is not damaged if we have several high earners coming in compared to a lot of the current squad.
Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

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Post by Ricco » Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:09 am

Michael Cooper at Plymouth matches up quite well to Rushworth and would probably be cheaper than buying from a fellow PL club. Not sure what he's like with ball at feet though. Name is somewhat familiar too...

'In talks' with Hladky, so being linked with other keepers may strengthen Town at the neg table, or maybe scare him out the club. I don't know how Hladky stacks up in the Prem, but we certainly need another keeper of at least his standard. It's been a harsh season on Walton, perhaps he's better off with a fresh start elsewhere, I don't think you could expect him to be at PL level, especially after a year without first team football.

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Post by Cabanas Blue » Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:09 pm

I like Cooper he's been unlucky with injuries but looked very good the season before last, I saw that Plymouth were trying to get him to sign a new contract so hopefully he wouldn't cost a fortune.

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Post by shabba » Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:33 pm

I'll go on record and say we will spend 15m+ on at least 1 player this season.

It would not suprise me at all if we spend 20m+ on some, I feel we will attack the summer and spend fairly big as they will try and bring in high quality players to really improve the XI in some (not all) positions.

the wages will be big of course, but they'll be big for the players we keep beyond this season if we stay up, i.e if Davis stays after a season of staying up then he would be after 50k+ per week, the 'normal' prem wage.

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Post by ITFC2024 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:36 pm

It's not looking like Hutch will be returning:
According to renowned football journalist Fabrizio Romano, Chelsea is willing to entertain offers in the region of £30 million for Hutchinson. Bundesliga side Stuttgart has emerged as the frontrunner to secure the youngster's signature, but they face stiff competition from Dutch giants Ajax and Feyenoord, as well as several Premier League clubs.

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Post by Cabanas Blue » Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:53 pm

I would love Hutchinson to sign for Town and I think under KMc he improved so much but we remember all his good points but he also held onto the ball to long and misplaced passes at times and was not always starting, but under KMc I could see him improving so much more, if he goes elsewhere it will be interesting to see how he gets on.

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Post by marko69 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:46 pm

Yep Cabanas…… Fantastic player but if forced to pick a “downfall” it’d be that “doing too much” part of his game. Seems to be looking for that Maradona 86 moment, (not the handball) …… even Mbappe releases his balls earlier. (Meaning he gets the cross-in)

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Post by Blue Wilf » Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:01 pm

I have to say I agree. I love Hutch to bits and he is exciting - but £30M?? Not for me - he is not the finished article by any means and can be anonymous in games (and also a match winner, I know). I just worry how physically able he will be against Prem defenders. I hope I am wrong and would love him here but not for £30M - thanks but no thanks...

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Post by RRanger » Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:37 pm

Personally I'd love Omari back and think £25million might get him. I genuinely believe that he will be a good Premiership player and would be an investment for the club under KM. If he continues to mature at Ipswich ,he could be worth at least double what we'd be asked to pay for him in a few years. I don't see any Dutch clubs or Stuttgart being able to outbid us or pay him more . It's true he might have the chance of European football next season if he moved but he's a very young man and I'm sure will eventually be playing European football ,whether with us or a side abroad.

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Post by shabba » Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:20 pm

RRanger wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:37 pm
Personally I'd love Omari back and think £25million might get him. I genuinely believe that he will be a good Premiership player and would be an investment for the club under KM. If he continues to mature at Ipswich ,he could be worth at least double what we'd be asked to pay for him in a few years. I don't see any Dutch clubs or Stuttgart being able to outbid us or pay him more . It's true he might have the chance of European football next season if he moved but he's a very young man and I'm sure will eventually be playing European football ,whether with us or a side abroad.
Totally agree with the above.

For me 20m is OK, 25m is a bit spicy, 30m is a bit risky at our level etc.

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Post by marko69 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:21 pm

You serious, Ranger? You can’t see Ajax or Feyenoord being able to outbid Ipswich for Omari Hutchison? :shock:
There must be more available in the summer spending pot than I realise.

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Post by Blue Wilf » Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:37 pm

shabba wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:20 pm
RRanger wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:37 pm
Personally I'd love Omari back and think £25million might get him. I genuinely believe that he will be a good Premiership player and would be an investment for the club under KM. If he continues to mature at Ipswich ,he could be worth at least double what we'd be asked to pay for him in a few years. I don't see any Dutch clubs or Stuttgart being able to outbid us or pay him more . It's true he might have the chance of European football next season if he moved but he's a very young man and I'm sure will eventually be playing European football ,whether with us or a side abroad.
Totally agree with the above.

For me 20m is OK, 25m is a bit spicy, 30m is a bit risky at our level etc.
£20m is OK? Really? On that basis, Davis is worth what? £10m? £12m? I can't see it. Like I say, I think he is great but £20m+ for a player who hasn't kick a ball in the Prem is too steep for me and limits targets. Maybe I am wrong and just an old man (quite likely) but I think it would be a bit silly and impulsive...

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:49 pm

I wouldn't pay above 15 Million for Hutchinson atm and as I said earlier, not gonna happen.

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Post by shabba » Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:56 pm

Blue Wilf wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:37 pm
shabba wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:20 pm
RRanger wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:37 pm
Personally I'd love Omari back and think £25million might get him. I genuinely believe that he will be a good Premiership player and would be an investment for the club under KM. If he continues to mature at Ipswich ,he could be worth at least double what we'd be asked to pay for him in a few years. I don't see any Dutch clubs or Stuttgart being able to outbid us or pay him more . It's true he might have the chance of European football next season if he moved but he's a very young man and I'm sure will eventually be playing European football ,whether with us or a side abroad.
Totally agree with the above.

For me 20m is OK, 25m is a bit spicy, 30m is a bit risky at our level etc.
£20m is OK? Really? On that basis, Davis is worth what? £10m? £12m? I can't see it. Like I say, I think he is great but £20m+ for a player who hasn't kick a ball in the Prem is too steep for me and limits targets. Maybe I am wrong and just an old man (quite likely) but I think it would be a bit silly and impulsive...
Sorry if I sound harsh sometimes, its just I'm not always sure how to word things - but you are probably a bit out of touch with current transfer fee's, yes they are very high etc but they are what they are.

- Davis = 15m MIN, if not more, you are talking about left back (very sought after postion), young and english (*homegrown tickbox = added fee), plus the all time record assist maker for a championship defender, its easily 15m.
- Summerville, talk of 35m for him - that isn't a huge amount for a top 6 side to be paying.

- Look at Forrest, didn't they pay 30-40m for Gibbs-White? I mean that was stong money but you'd have a case to argue he is worth it, v good player.

- Cole Palmer, wasn't he 30-40m when he'd barely played in the Prem - what is he worth now as one of the Prem's top goalscovers and a likely England start, 70m?

- Bowen was 22m direct from Champsionship, and that was a while ago, you'd have to say he is worth double that now.

Of course there are examples the other way of flops, the risks are huge. However I'm trying to say that its a supply and demand thing, if Ipswich said max 10m for Omari then I'm sure a host of other prem clubs would pay 15m, then its a bidding war.

Also re Ajax and such, we can defo outbid them - they get barely any TV money, so are probably 70-100m behind ipswich per season financially, they might make up some of that from commercial stuff but Ipswich will still be better off finanically. They have to sell, and usually those clubs do - look at Dortmund etc, many of those clubs are making good profit from players and re-investing it each year - but in Holland they rarely spend over 15m per player. It's the same in Italty generally speaking. Even the spain teams outside the top 3-4 are pretty skint.

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Post by ITFC2024 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:21 pm

shabba wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:56 pm

Also re Ajax and such, we can defo outbid them - they get barely any TV money, so are probably 70-100m behind ipswich per season financially, they might make up some of that from commercial stuff but Ipswich will still be better off finanically. They have to sell, and usually those clubs do - look at Dortmund etc, many of those clubs are making good profit from players and re-investing it each year - but in Holland they rarely spend over 15m per player. It's the same in Italty generally speaking. Even the spain teams outside the top 3-4 are pretty skint.
Not sure about the recruiting process, but it seems like we could get a better bargain for Dutch and German players. I wouldn't be surprised if Kieran's accomplishments are well known on the continent if not worldwide now. Maybe young, up and coming players would relish the chance of working with McKenna.

Also, Mourinho is now the Fenerbahçe manager and may have a few player suggestions from the Turkish League, if they still keep in touch.

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Post by Blue Wilf » Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:36 pm

shabba wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:56 pm
Blue Wilf wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:37 pm
shabba wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:20 pm


Totally agree with the above.

For me 20m is OK, 25m is a bit spicy, 30m is a bit risky at our level etc.
£20m is OK? Really? On that basis, Davis is worth what? £10m? £12m? I can't see it. Like I say, I think he is great but £20m+ for a player who hasn't kick a ball in the Prem is too steep for me and limits targets. Maybe I am wrong and just an old man (quite likely) but I think it would be a bit silly and impulsive...
Sorry if I sound harsh sometimes, its just I'm not always sure how to word things - but you are probably a bit out of touch with current transfer fee's, yes they are very high etc but they are what they are.

- Davis = 15m MIN, if not more, you are talking about left back (very sought after postion), young and english (*homegrown tickbox = added fee), plus the all time record assist maker for a championship defender, its easily 15m.
- Summerville, talk of 35m for him - that isn't a huge amount for a top 6 side to be paying.

- Look at Forrest, didn't they pay 30-40m for Gibbs-White? I mean that was stong money but you'd have a case to argue he is worth it, v good player.

- Cole Palmer, wasn't he 30-40m when he'd barely played in the Prem - what is he worth now as one of the Prem's top goalscovers and a likely England start, 70m?

- Bowen was 22m direct from Champsionship, and that was a while ago, you'd have to say he is worth double that now.

Of course there are examples the other way of flops, the risks are huge. However I'm trying to say that its a supply and demand thing, if Ipswich said max 10m for Omari then I'm sure a host of other prem clubs would pay 15m, then its a bidding war.

Also re Ajax and such, we can defo outbid them - they get barely any TV money, so are probably 70-100m behind ipswich per season financially, they might make up some of that from commercial stuff but Ipswich will still be better off finanically. They have to sell, and usually those clubs do - look at Dortmund etc, many of those clubs are making good profit from players and re-investing it each year - but in Holland they rarely spend over 15m per player. It's the same in Italty generally speaking. Even the spain teams outside the top 3-4 are pretty skint.
Don't worry Shabba - I am not offended - I just don't agree with your assessment! 😂

I don't think any of our players, nor Hutchinson are worth the kind of numbers you are throwing out there as though £20M (think about it - £20M - when is the last time you had £20m to spend??) is not much money? Even by PL standards!?

We sit here and speculate that none of our players today are worth more than about £5m on todays market and then talk up a young lad who could not get a start 6 months ago as being worth £20-£30m! I am glad you don't invest my pension for me! 😬

Look - I know the numbers get silly but lets get real.. we may get £150m in TV money but the club will only realistically want to spend a percentage of that (we lost what was it £80m last year?). So lets say we try not to lose it again and have £70m to spend on players, ground improvements etc etc. for me, that means £40m max on players (including salaries etc) and we all know we need at least 5 players. So... for me, I think we would not pay much more than £3-4M for most of them and maybe a bit more for one if we really really needed/wanted him. It seems that lots on here (and far more on TWTD) want to throw £150m on 3 established Prem players etc etc but we all know where that ends up. KM and MA are smart and will acquire players as such. I think the idea of spending tens of millions single players is reckless and unrealistic. It is the road to ruin and we know that happens every season!

So - I hear you and lets see, but I would say you/we all need to get real about what we really can afford to do here. Just my view!

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:48 pm

Wilf, stop writing my thoughts please :lol: :lol:

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I must manage him better lol :lol:

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Post by Blue Wilf » Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:09 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:48 pm
Wilf, stop writing my thoughts please :lol: :lol:
😂😂 maybe we are just two out of touch old gits? - if so, glad I am not the only one! OK - I know... there are a few more of you on here too that are keeping quiet...! 😬

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Post by Cabanas Blue » Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:16 pm

Blue Wilf wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:09 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:48 pm
Wilf, stop writing my thoughts please :lol: :lol:
😂😂 maybe we are just two out of touch old gits? - if so, glad I am not the only one! OK - I know... there are a few more of you on here too that are keeping quiet...! 😬

I'm certainly an old git 78 later this month and never thought I would see Town in the premier.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:29 pm

Cabanas Blue wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:16 pm
Blue Wilf wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:09 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:48 pm
Wilf, stop writing my thoughts please :lol: :lol:
😂😂 maybe we are just two out of touch old gits? - if so, glad I am not the only one! OK - I know... there are a few more of you on here too that are keeping quiet...! 😬

I'm certainly an old git 78 later this month and never thought I would see Town in the premier.
Hang on at least Two more months Cabanas or you might not :lol: :lol:
No seriously, I'm 61 and I didn't either !!!

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Post by marko69 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:46 pm

Bluemike wrote:
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Wilf, stop writing my thoughts please :lol: :lol:
:lol: Yep, and mine…….

So that’d be “Word” for the two blues…… Wilf & Mike.

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Post by Blue Wilf » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:45 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:05 pm
I must manage him better lol :lol:
Yes 'handler' - back to spy school for you! 😂

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Post by shabba » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:12 pm

Blue Wilf wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:36 pm
shabba wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:56 pm
Blue Wilf wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:37 pm


£20m is OK? Really? On that basis, Davis is worth what? £10m? £12m? I can't see it. Like I say, I think he is great but £20m+ for a player who hasn't kick a ball in the Prem is too steep for me and limits targets. Maybe I am wrong and just an old man (quite likely) but I think it would be a bit silly and impulsive...
Sorry if I sound harsh sometimes, its just I'm not always sure how to word things - but you are probably a bit out of touch with current transfer fee's, yes they are very high etc but they are what they are.

- Davis = 15m MIN, if not more, you are talking about left back (very sought after postion), young and english (*homegrown tickbox = added fee), plus the all time record assist maker for a championship defender, its easily 15m.
- Summerville, talk of 35m for him - that isn't a huge amount for a top 6 side to be paying.

- Look at Forrest, didn't they pay 30-40m for Gibbs-White? I mean that was stong money but you'd have a case to argue he is worth it, v good player.

- Cole Palmer, wasn't he 30-40m when he'd barely played in the Prem - what is he worth now as one of the Prem's top goalscovers and a likely England start, 70m?

- Bowen was 22m direct from Champsionship, and that was a while ago, you'd have to say he is worth double that now.

Of course there are examples the other way of flops, the risks are huge. However I'm trying to say that its a supply and demand thing, if Ipswich said max 10m for Omari then I'm sure a host of other prem clubs would pay 15m, then its a bidding war.

Also re Ajax and such, we can defo outbid them - they get barely any TV money, so are probably 70-100m behind ipswich per season financially, they might make up some of that from commercial stuff but Ipswich will still be better off finanically. They have to sell, and usually those clubs do - look at Dortmund etc, many of those clubs are making good profit from players and re-investing it each year - but in Holland they rarely spend over 15m per player. It's the same in Italty generally speaking. Even the spain teams outside the top 3-4 are pretty skint.
Don't worry Shabba - I am not offended - I just don't agree with your assessment! 😂

I don't think any of our players, nor Hutchinson are worth the kind of numbers you are throwing out there as though £20M (think about it - £20M - when is the last time you had £20m to spend??) is not much money? Even by PL standards!?

We sit here and speculate that none of our players today are worth more than about £5m on todays market and then talk up a young lad who could not get a start 6 months ago as being worth £20-£30m! I am glad you don't invest my pension for me! 😬

Look - I know the numbers get silly but lets get real.. we may get £150m in TV money but the club will only realistically want to spend a percentage of that (we lost what was it £80m last year?). So lets say we try not to lose it again and have £70m to spend on players, ground improvements etc etc. for me, that means £40m max on players (including salaries etc) and we all know we need at least 5 players. So... for me, I think we would not pay much more than £3-4M for most of them and maybe a bit more for one if we really really needed/wanted him. It seems that lots on here (and far more on TWTD) want to throw £150m on 3 established Prem players etc etc but we all know where that ends up. KM and MA are smart and will acquire players as such. I think the idea of spending tens of millions single players is reckless and unrealistic. It is the road to ruin and we know that happens every season!

So - I hear you and lets see, but I would say you/we all need to get real about what we really can afford to do here. Just my view!
I believe our loss last year would be around £18m, might move around a bit depending on bonuses for promotion, but then that might be squared off by the small (ish) prize money for winning the league.

Most clubs run at a loss, ours will probably also lose money next year as the owners will invest to try and make them a solid premier league team as it drastically increases the asset value of the club, and that is their target.

I'm sorry but who are we going to find for 3-4m that's any good?! Foriegn players are a risk and would likely still cost more than that if they are any good. Even OK championship players aren't going for less than 5m now, I mean look at Cov - they sold some players for 10-20m each last year after good seasons.

I agree we won't spent £150m on 3 players, but I can easily see us spending 60-70m on 6-7 players, someone might be low cost free transfers or loans and some might be 10-20m signings.

Re your pension - maybe you should have invested it into the premier league, I think its revenue has increased 2800% since its begining. :D

The more money you have the harder to find bargains, its worse for the clubs higher up too - I can't see them finding any 3-4m bargains - even the players they get from south america often cost 10-30m now due to the competition for the signing.

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Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Post by ITFC2024 » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:36 pm

No doubt, we’ll have to spend some money to get a competitive squad. But, I agree with the ‘old gits’ 30-mil for Hutchinson is ridiculous. We won’t be spending that kind of money on one player. You know what, I’m completely onboard with that! What if the ‘golden boy’ gets injured? Then we’re fooked! Above average players will develop under KM’s management. That’s the way to go in a responsible sense.

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Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Post by Bluemike » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:48 pm

There will also be some really good players available for nothing.

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