Don't celebrate yet. It doesn't mean that parties can't come in for him. It just means that nobody thought he is worth £35m.
Summer 2025 Transfer Thread / Rumours
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But it does mean we can say get lost
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Also there might have been a bid which we haven’t been told about yet.Dubai Blue wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:14 pmDon't celebrate yet. It doesn't mean that parties can't come in for him. It just means that nobody thought he is worth £35m.
I do still wonder if the club might do business if someone comes to the table with that sort of money, I’m not clear on our transfer budget - we do seem to have cash to spend - and I’d imagine we overspent last year - I know it’s amortised though.
Our wage bill will be massively higher than it was when we were last in the champ, I know we have parachute payments to help though but we must be fairly close to the max losses over a three year period.
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If OH agent had a £35m release clause written into his contract, then id be amazed if Town would take less. We don't have to, hes on a 4 yr deal. And since no one triggered that release clause ( nothings been said by the club/ press) i can only assume no PL is willing to stump up £35m PLUS pay off his 4 yr contract. Pity Delaps agent didn't c*ck up the same way, lolDubai Blue wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:14 pmDon't celebrate yet. It doesn't mean that parties can't come in for him. It just means that nobody thought he is worth £35m.
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They wouldn’t have to pay up his contract - it doesn’t work like that in transfers.
Agree though it would seem he is alot less likely to leave now, UNLESS the club needs money to balance the books. He is the most valuable / saleable asset
Agree though it would seem he is alot less likely to leave now, UNLESS the club needs money to balance the books. He is the most valuable / saleable asset
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Sell Davis instead
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Well if we do sell OH, it should only happen if we get at least 25mil. I really don’t think he’s valued that high, so yes it looks like he’ll stay.
How much would we take for Davis?
How much would we take for Davis?
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£25m would be breaking even by the time we pay any sell on clauses. Surely we’d want min 35m.
For Davis I’d want 15m plus, I think he’ll be a weapon again in the championship.
It’s actually nuts looking at the goal Involvements (goals and assists) from their last championship campaigns for some of the players, between 7 or 8 of them it’s about 120!
For Davis I’d want 15m plus, I think he’ll be a weapon again in the championship.
It’s actually nuts looking at the goal Involvements (goals and assists) from their last championship campaigns for some of the players, between 7 or 8 of them it’s about 120!
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Weve now lost 3 very good players, ( Burgess, Axel & Morsy) this summer and not got a single penny for them. Is this good contract management by the club?
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The only one of the three we could have got a small fee for would have been Sam as the other two were out of contract and not ours to sell. With Sam it’s not unusual to let a player with his service leave on free especially at his age, I guess it’s a thank you for his contribution to the club over the past 3 seasons in particular. I’m hopeful now we can hang onto Omari and that he commits himself to the club and doesn’t do anything silly like put in a transfer request or refuse to play. If he tried to force a sale we could easily find ourselves in a situation where we get little more than we paid for him. Hopefully this is a concern I don’t need worry about as he would have known the relegation risks when he signed his 4yr contract. Unless of course his agent convinced him his release clause would most definitely be triggered. I’m certainly not as confident as some that we’ve heard the last of this one. Hopefully he’ll give us one more season at least.hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:31 pmWeve now lost 3 very good players, ( Burgess, Axel & Morsy) this summer and not got a single penny for them. Is this good contract management by the club?
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I'm with you here, not confident at all. Though needed to an extent but certainly can be a pain in the game are agents. They certainly do sniff out any reason to bring more money into their pockets and make no mistake Omari's like all good agents is touting and pushing his players name out there. I bet it was the agent who leaked the 5pm clause ending.Charnwood wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:38 pmThe only one of the three we could have got a small fee for would have been Sam as the other two were out of contract and not ours to sell. With Sam it’s not unusual to let a player with his service leave on free especially at his age, I guess it’s a thank you for his contribution to the club over the past 3 seasons in particular. I’m hopeful now we can hang onto Omari and that he commits himself to the club and doesn’t do anything silly like put in a transfer request or refuse to play. If he tried to force a sale we could easily find ourselves in a situation where we get little more than we paid for him. Hopefully this is a concern I don’t need worry about as he would have known the relegation risks when he signed his 4yr contract. Unless of course his agent convinced him his release clause would most definitely be triggered. I’m certainly not as confident as some that we’ve heard the last of this one. Hopefully he’ll give us one more season at least.hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:31 pmWeve now lost 3 very good players, ( Burgess, Axel & Morsy) this summer and not got a single penny for them. Is this good contract management by the club?
Only hope Omari can look at the wider scope, a good season playing for us would really him do him no harm at all and he knows Ipswich inside and out. Another promotion on his CV cannot be bad, at least Ipswich are in control of this situation and cannot be forced to sell unless they wish to or Omari like been mentioned throws his toys out of his pram
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But you have to ask the question why Ashton allowed the contract situation yo get to the point where the player was allowed to walk away. The club offered numskull Woolfenden a 2 yr deal ( mind you no one appears to be interested in him snyway(. But my point is the club can offer deals attractive enough to get players to sign. But if you leave it until the player is in their final year it's going to be difficult to get them to.sign that deal. Axel and Burgess and now Morsy have all been allowed to get to thst point, and walked away. All three would have been very strong players for us this season. We should have dealt with it earlier in my view.Charnwood wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:38 pmThe only one of the three we could have got a small fee for would have been Sam as the other two were out of contract and not ours to sell. With Sam it’s not unusual to let a player with his service leave on free especially at his age, I guess it’s a thank you for his contribution to the club over the past 3 seasons in particular. I’m hopeful now we can hang onto Omari and that he commits himself to the club and doesn’t do anything silly like put in a transfer request or refuse to play. If he tried to force a sale we could easily find ourselves in a situation where we get little more than we paid for him. Hopefully this is a concern I don’t need worry about as he would have known the relegation risks when he signed his 4yr contract. Unless of course his agent convinced him his release clause would most definitely be triggered. I’m certainly not as confident as some that we’ve heard the last of this one. Hopefully he’ll give us one more season at least.hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:31 pmWeve now lost 3 very good players, ( Burgess, Axel & Morsy) this summer and not got a single penny for them. Is this good contract management by the club?
It looks like Brentford have offered £35m for Omari so that's also him now gone. Not a good summer in my view.
I would also add if Omari does leave we are f*cked down that right wing atm.
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Where have you seen Brentford have offered 35 Million?
Morsy still had a year to run, his contract didn't run down, we are doing the decent thing to reward his loyalty and service to the club, it's a life changing move, had it been Derby we'd have commanded a fee, I think we've dealt with this in a decent and honourable way.
Burgess was a difficult one and I suspect it was muddied by which league we would eventually end up in, had we survived he'd almost certainly be gone, but once we knew our fate they decided to offer him something, the top and bottom of it is he's took a backward step to a nothing club to get first team football which he probably wouldn't be getting here, we are moving on and progressing and rightly so. I've not been wrapped up in this Burgess "love in" anyhow, bang average for me.
Tuanzebe would have been handy to keep but giving him a Two year deal when we did was quite a gamble given how he'd been a crock who nobody else wanted. Add to that he's injury prone too so again I'm not overly disappointed, I think this will turn out to be a blessing.
All in all I'm not disappointed about any of our dealings really, my biggest concern right now is that we need Two strikers to boost our attacking, preferably ones who score goals, once we do that I don't think we are too far away from a good squad, especially with another Midfielder likely to be arriving.
Morsy still had a year to run, his contract didn't run down, we are doing the decent thing to reward his loyalty and service to the club, it's a life changing move, had it been Derby we'd have commanded a fee, I think we've dealt with this in a decent and honourable way.
Burgess was a difficult one and I suspect it was muddied by which league we would eventually end up in, had we survived he'd almost certainly be gone, but once we knew our fate they decided to offer him something, the top and bottom of it is he's took a backward step to a nothing club to get first team football which he probably wouldn't be getting here, we are moving on and progressing and rightly so. I've not been wrapped up in this Burgess "love in" anyhow, bang average for me.
Tuanzebe would have been handy to keep but giving him a Two year deal when we did was quite a gamble given how he'd been a crock who nobody else wanted. Add to that he's injury prone too so again I'm not overly disappointed, I think this will turn out to be a blessing.
All in all I'm not disappointed about any of our dealings really, my biggest concern right now is that we need Two strikers to boost our attacking, preferably ones who score goals, once we do that I don't think we are too far away from a good squad, especially with another Midfielder likely to be arriving.
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IPSWICH are hopeful of keeping hold of Omari Hutchinson after Brentford failed to trigger his release clause today.
The Bees, looking to replace Manchester United-bound Bryan Mbuemo, had until 5pm this afternoon to offer £35million which would have activated the clause.
Brentford had until 5pm on Tuesday to trigger Omari Hutchinson's £35m release clause but they missed it.
The Bees are looking to replace Man Utd-bound winger Bryan MbeumoCredit: Getty
Brentford made an offer on Monday evening.
However, it is understood that the bid was well below the release clause.
And with the west London club having failed to make a second attempt today, Hutchinson no longer has the clause and Ipswich can demand any amount they want for the winger.
Hutchinson, 21, completed a permanent £22.5m move to Portman Road from Chelsea a year ago after a successful loan stint in Suffolk.
The £35m clause came into effect after Ipswich’s relegation back to the Premier League.
In the same way, Liam Delap's £40m release clause was reduced to £30m once Ipswich suffered the drop.
Ipswich manager Kieran McKenna, hopeful of bouncing back to the Premier League at the first attempt, is keen to keep hold of Hutchinson.
The forward starred for England against Germany in the final of the European Under-21 Championship.
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Good points MIke.
We have to remember here that we have been on a hell of a ride, and getting the right contracts for players will always be difficult to judge, given we've been in a different league each year for 3 years.
Also frankly 'getting a fee' for alot of those type of players (Morsy/Burges etc) will be almost an irrelevant amount of money, basically championbship clubs usually pay very low fee's- especially for players over 24 years old without further potential. To the point the fee makes no real differnece given the wages factor.
You dont want to be stuck with players who aren't good enough, and the flip side is you accept the risk of losing them for free.
Totally different with young talent which prem clubs might want, as the fee's are huge there.
Nobody would be paying us millions to get Burges or Morsy.....yet if we move them on we could save alot in wages and replace with better players, the water level needs to keep rising and some won't make the cut.
We have to remember here that we have been on a hell of a ride, and getting the right contracts for players will always be difficult to judge, given we've been in a different league each year for 3 years.
Also frankly 'getting a fee' for alot of those type of players (Morsy/Burges etc) will be almost an irrelevant amount of money, basically championbship clubs usually pay very low fee's- especially for players over 24 years old without further potential. To the point the fee makes no real differnece given the wages factor.
You dont want to be stuck with players who aren't good enough, and the flip side is you accept the risk of losing them for free.
Totally different with young talent which prem clubs might want, as the fee's are huge there.
Nobody would be paying us millions to get Burges or Morsy.....yet if we move them on we could save alot in wages and replace with better players, the water level needs to keep rising and some won't make the cut.
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Exactly right. Every team, no matter who they are have players who's contract runs out and they move on for free, it's just the way it is, some massive names in the past have gone for nothing and i bet we too have benefitted from picking up players in these circumstances.shabba wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:45 amGood points MIke.
We have to remember here that we have been on a hell of a ride, and getting the right contracts for players will always be difficult to judge, given we've been in a different league each year for 3 years.
Also frankly 'getting a fee' for alot of those type of players (Morsy/Burges etc) will be almost an irrelevant amount of money, basically championbship clubs usually pay very low fee's- especially for players over 24 years old without further potential. To the point the fee makes no real differnece given the wages factor.
You dont want to be stuck with players who aren't good enough, and the flip side is you accept the risk of losing them for free.
Totally different with young talent which prem clubs might want, as the fee's are huge there.
Nobody would be paying us millions to get Burges or Morsy.....yet if we move them on we could save alot in wages and replace with better players, the water level needs to keep rising and some won't make the cut.