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Joe Mads For It
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:07 am
by Dazza
Boss Joe Royle has confirmed a weekend newspaper report linking the Blues with a summer move for Manchester United striker Mads Timm. Royle has also denied a claim that he is set to retire at the end of the season.
Timm, 21, is currently on loan at Walsall and is expected to exit Old Trafford when his contract is up in the summer.
The Dane joined United from home town club Odense in August 2002, making his debut against Maccabi Haifa in the Champions League. A loan spell with Norwegian side Viking followed.
The striker was sentenced to 12 months in a young offenders' institute in March 2005 after being found guilty of dangerous driving. Fellow United player Callum Flanagan, sacked after the incident and also jailed, crashed into another car while he and Timm were street racing.
Timm has scored one goal in six games since joining Walsall last month.
Another report claimed that Royle was set to leave Town in the close season to look after his ill wife with Colchester's Phil Parkinson taking over. However, the Town manager says this is nonsense: "Janet is fine and I have no thoughts of leaving."
Re: Joe Mads For It
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:36 am
by Mork
Dazza wrote:Boss Joe Royle has confirmed a weekend newspaper report linking the Blues with a summer move for Manchester United striker Mads Timm. Royle has also denied a claim that he is set to retire at the end of the season.
Timm, 21, is currently on loan at Walsall and is expected to exit Old Trafford when his contract is up in the summer.
The Dane joined United from home town club Odense in August 2002, making his debut against Maccabi Haifa in the Champions League. A loan spell with Norwegian side Viking followed.
The striker was sentenced to 12 months in a young offenders' institute in March 2005 after being found guilty of dangerous driving. Fellow United player Callum Flanagan, sacked after the incident and also jailed, crashed into another car while he and Timm were street racing.
Timm has scored one goal in six games since joining Walsall last month.
Another report claimed that Royle was set to leave Town in the close season to look after his ill wife with Colchester's Phil Parkinson taking over. However, the Town manager says this is nonsense: "Janet is fine and I have no thoughts of leaving."
Given the fickle nature of many a folk around these ere parts, I know I'll get shot down in flames for this - but I would still like to see Royle move on a the end of this season.
He's been responsible for too many points a dropped this year, has made some odd signings, and some odd decisions, and whilst I respect a lot of what he has achieved over the past 3 years - I don't believe he can take us any further forward. Parkinson would be a very attractive option for me as well, young, hungry and with a point to prove - and a record of delivering.
Re: Joe Mads For It
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:19 am
by hallamblue
Mork wrote:Dazza wrote:Boss Joe Royle has confirmed a weekend newspaper report linking the Blues with a summer move for Manchester United striker Mads Timm. Royle has also denied a claim that he is set to retire at the end of the season.
Timm, 21, is currently on loan at Walsall and is expected to exit Old Trafford when his contract is up in the summer.
The Dane joined United from home town club Odense in August 2002, making his debut against Maccabi Haifa in the Champions League. A loan spell with Norwegian side Viking followed.
The striker was sentenced to 12 months in a young offenders' institute in March 2005 after being found guilty of dangerous driving. Fellow United player Callum Flanagan, sacked after the incident and also jailed, crashed into another car while he and Timm were street racing.
Timm has scored one goal in six games since joining Walsall last month.
Another report claimed that Royle was set to leave Town in the close season to look after his ill wife with Colchester's Phil Parkinson taking over. However, the Town manager says this is nonsense: "Janet is fine and I have no thoughts of leaving."
Given the fickle nature of many a folk around these ere parts, I know I'll get shot down in flames for this - but I would still like to see Royle move on a the end of this season.
He's been responsible for too many points a dropped this year, has made some odd signings, and some odd decisions, and whilst I respect a lot of what he has achieved over the past 3 years - I don't believe he can take us any further forward. Parkinson would be a very attractive option for me as well, young, hungry and with a point to prove - and a record of delivering.
so the fact that he's had to rebuild the team for the THIRD time since joining us ...the latest team is now starting to gel having only been together since start of season.... is a "poor" reflection on Joe is it ?
Re: Joe Mads For It
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:24 am
by Dazza
Mork wrote:Given the fickle nature of many a folk around these ere parts, I know I'll get shot down in flames for this - but I would still like to see Royle move on a the end of this season.
He's been responsible for too many points a dropped this year, has made some odd signings, and some odd decisions, and whilst I respect a lot of what he has achieved over the past 3 years - I don't believe he can take us any further forward. Parkinson would be a very attractive option for me as well, young, hungry and with a point to prove - and a record of delivering.
I totally disagree.
A month or so ago I was still a JR fan but I agreed it was probably best to get rid of him. But now I can see the team he is trying to build is starting to gel and we've held Sheffield Utd and Leeds to draws and walked all over teams like Norwich and Southampton. Just imagine what we could do if we had gelled at the start of the season.
If we get another manager he may not like Garavn or Juan and get rid of them and bring in some reject... You just dont know. Maybe its a case of better the devil you know.
JR has finally built up another decent team
SOMEHOW... for the 3rd time of running, so lets give him a chance.
Re: Joe Mads For It
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:28 am
by phily bon bon
Dazza wrote:Mork wrote:Given the fickle nature of many a folk around these ere parts, I know I'll get shot down in flames for this - but I would still like to see Royle move on a the end of this season.
He's been responsible for too many points a dropped this year, has made some odd signings, and some odd decisions, and whilst I respect a lot of what he has achieved over the past 3 years - I don't believe he can take us any further forward. Parkinson would be a very attractive option for me as well, young, hungry and with a point to prove - and a record of delivering.
I totally disagree.
A month or so ago I was still a JR fan but I agreed it was probably best to get rid of him. But now I can see the team he is trying to build is starting to gel and we've held Sheffield Utd and Leeds to draws and walked all over teams like Norwich and Southampton. Just imagine what we could do if we had gelled at the start of the season.
If we get another manager he may not like Garavn or Juan and get rid of them and bring in some reject... You just dont know. Maybe its a case of better the devil you know.
JR has finally built up another decent team
SOMEHOW... for the 3rd time of running, so lets give him a chance.
Spot on Dazza I too was calling for joes head and admit he is begining to turn the team around and play better more determind football.Imm still not sure over certain things but theres no doubt the boys are playing well and played the dirty scum off the park.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:35 am
by uefacup81
The fact of the matter is, that this is only the start of things... I'm sure there's still more to come! If we give these players another season or so of playing together and gelling, who knows where we'll be this time next season!
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:01 am
by Ojc
I will pass my judgement when Parkin is fit, if Haynes is still performing and scoring the odd goal and has the bit between his teeth and Royle then goes and drops him and puts this donkey back in I will be angry.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:19 am
by Mork
I am just consistent in my view, that Joe is not ever going to "get it done". He is doing well, he has rebuilt the team again. But as the manager, he is also responsible for some of the players we lose, all of the players we bring in, and the team we put out.
And yes, Joe appears to be turning it around, but it is almost certainly too late to sneak into the play-offs - if he does do it, fantastic, I'll cheer twice as loud as anybody else, but realistically, it looks too much for any team, unless one or two of the teams above us literally implode.
And lets not forget, we dropped unnecessary points, in my opinon, earlier on this season, due to decisions by Joe (one could argue about the decision to buy Parkin in the first place, or Forster as a player whose been out for months at a time for the last couple of years, but that'll just start another flame war).
I for one, don't quite believe Joe has the full confidence or strong relationship he needs, with those above him (I'm talking Sheepy and the board), because the board consistently fail to do what they should be doing - and part of Jo's job is to persuade them to do those things, and put their money in at the right moment, for the right reason.
Respect to Joe for what he's doing, but I'm just being consistent (something that few folks around here seem to be capable of) in my view, that we aren't going to go any further forward than Joe has already achieved in the last 3 years - and that means standing still, and that should not be good enough for a club with real ambition.
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:25 am
by Dazza
Mork wrote:I am just consistent in my view, that Joe is not ever going to "get it done". He is doing well, he has rebuilt the team again. But as the manager, he is also responsible for some of the players we lose, all of the players we bring in, and the team we put out.
Trouble is no one ever will "get it done" when we have to get rid of good players every year to eithier survive or if they leave on a free.
I think he has worked mircales, if we had another manage I dont want to know where we could be now. Maybe playing Forest?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:32 am
by Mork
Dazza wrote:Mork wrote:I am just consistent in my view, that Joe is not ever going to "get it done". He is doing well, he has rebuilt the team again. But as the manager, he is also responsible for some of the players we lose, all of the players we bring in, and the team we put out.
Trouble is no one ever will "get it done" when we have to get rid of good players every year to eithier survive or if they leave on a free.
I think he has worked mircales, if we had another manage I dont want to know where we could be now. Maybe playing Forest?
I guess its the difference between knowing your not going anywhere forward, but your quite comfortable sitting where you are - as opposed to taking a risk, with a potential reward, and of course, possible disaster. Are we happy to become a mediocre-mid-table, play-offs every other year or so, team?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:37 am
by Dazza
Mork wrote:I guess its the difference between knowing your not going anywhere forward, but your quite comfortable sitting where you are - as opposed to taking a risk, with a potential reward, and of course, possible disaster. Are we happy to become a mediocre-mid-table, play-offs every other year or so, team?
If I thought JR couldnt do it I'd want a new manager. I think we can do it next year and maybe even reach the play offs this year!
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:16 pm
by Earl Blue
The Old saying of 'Sticking together' and then getting rewards
springs to mind.
For the first time in a very long time, it appears that something
is gelling at PR.. I think we should look at how the rest of the
season maps out and then make judgement. But at the moment
another old saying 'If its not broken etc etc.'
Everone is entitled to their opinions but some are
more ferrocious than others, amazing that your not football managers
yourselves
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:20 pm
by squiz18
I agree with dazza on this one. 3 season's and 3 different teams with no money to spend and he has consistently led us to high finshes in the table. Look at leicester and nottingham forrest, we could have easily been in the same situation as those teams, but we have kept our necks above water and i would like to see what Happens next season with Royle at the helm if no one moves on this summer ( which is what has been promised by the board )
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:30 pm
by Anglo-Saxon
I'v always said JR is the man for the job although I have to hold my hands up and say I'd had enough a few weeks back, I'm only too glad to eat humble pie.
Since he has been with us he has built three teams from scratch and had us up there (top six) apart from ONE season (7th) if we can carry on with this run, 10 points is fvck all to catch up on, he has given us some thing to believe in and that's exactly what I'm gonna do.
COME ON YOU BLUES
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:31 pm
by Dazza
Anglo-Saxon wrote:apart from ONE season (7th)
Wasnt that the year he came in half way through...?
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:33 pm
by Anglo-Saxon
Dazza wrote:Anglo-Saxon wrote:apart from ONE season (7th)
Wasnt that the year he came in half way through...?
Yep, and I was one of those that wanted Burley to stay
