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Police and stewards @ Norwich....

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:57 am
by Dazza
Last time I went to Carrot Road I remember there being LOTS more police officers. I have the pics of met horses in front and behind of the fans, also the helicopter above and the 4 riot vans in front and behind incase anything kicked off. Apart from 1 riot van and a some police officers it wasnt that bad.

Also in the ground last time (as Earl Blue can vouch for) we had SO many arguements with the stewards as they kept telling us to sit down, this never happened once, even the Norwich fans were being told to sit down - was insane.

Has the derby become less violent? Discuss... ;)

Re: Police and stewards @ Norwich....

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:03 am
by Anglo-Saxon
Dazza wrote:Last time I went to Carrot Road I remember there being LOTS more police officers. I have the pics of met horses in front and behind of the fans, also the helicopter above and the 4 riot vans in front and behind incase anything kicked off. Apart from 1 riot van and a some police officers it wasnt that bad.

Also in the ground last time (as Earl Blue can vouch for) we had SO many arguements with the stewards as they kept telling us to sit down, this never happened once, even the Norwich fans were being told to sit down - was insane.

Has the derby become less violent? Discuss... ;)
Good thing IMHO, Norwich also got away with alot at PR, mind you, you have to treat all fans the same or you are just going to make thing worse again.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:09 am
by Aza-itfc
I think people have become more aware of consequences for being violent while representing 'your team'. With the possibility of being banned for life from ALL football stadiums, people are more likely to talk, than let their fists talk for them.

The violence has decreased, but with with greater banter, arguments, pride, desire and passion, I think the derbys have changed for the better.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:25 am
by Earl Blue
Lol Dazza, Your abso right.

I also remember that day a couple of other things.

a). I got loads of abuse from about 6 young (11-13) year olds when I
was getting ome money from nthe cashpoint at morrisons.

b). The bricks on the new stand that were so loose we
could have easily lobbed one at the Norwich fans.

c). That poor old steward who kept running up and down the stairs
to get us to sit down. Remember he got so knackered he gave up.

lol


As for the Police presence yes there were met and helicopeters
there..


I would only assume the lack of violence last year gave them
no reason to concern themselves this year.


Hey Dazza.


Who did you have the pleasure of standing next to this
season

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:36 am
by Dazza
Earl Blue wrote:Who did you have the pleasure of standing next to this
season
My mum to the right and some insane nutter to the left, he was mental, made me look like a prawn sandwich eater! :shock: :lol:

kept saying you "f'ing w*nkers" and smacking his hand on his head, he was crazy! Heard him also say to his mate he was in the Barclay end for a Norwich Ipswich game and he almost got beaten up and was taken out at half time! :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:20 pm
by Earl Blue
Dazza wrote:
Earl Blue wrote:Who did you have the pleasure of standing next to this
season
My mum to the right and some insane nutter to the left, he was mental, made me look like a prawn sandwich eater! :shock: :lol:

kept saying you "f'ing w*nkers" and smacking his hand on his head, he was crazy! Heard him also say to his mate he was in the Barclay end for a Norwich Ipswich game and he almost got beaten up and was taken out at half time! :lol:

LOL Bet mum was a bit concerned about the company
you keep Dazza :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:54 pm
by lunchbox
They seemed less heavy handed this time round. Glad they let us stand, can't see why they would wish to provoke fans at a derby by enforcing the no standing rule.
Was funny outside the ground before the game on my phone, stepped past the one line of police only to be told "for your own safety get back."

Yet there were about 10 police within 5 metres of me lol!


Apparently some of our fans got thrown out when we scored the 2nd, any truth in this?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:14 pm
by Dazza
lunchbox wrote:Apparently some of our fans got thrown out when we scored the 2nd, any truth in this?
I didnt see anyone getting kicked out, there would of been massive boo's if they had tried.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:34 pm
by azbedwell
Scheduling the game for 11:15 on a sunday morning also takes some of the heat out of a game. i know its a derby so the atmosphere is not like a usual early/sunday match where everyone is asleep but its definately different to if they had it as a night match.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:44 pm
by Phil
I'll let you know when I find out if Im being prosicuted or not for drinking on the train what I thought of the policing :twisted:

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:50 pm
by The Gaffer
Phil wrote:I'll let you know when I find out if Im being prosicuted or not for drinking on the train what I thought of the policing :twisted:
did you get done to? few blokes who was sitting next to me on the train got, done to. well details were taking, and one of them was a copper himself and said he doesnt even no if the rule exisited and if it did he hadnt been told about it!
The police men who got them, was a rite as* hole an all, thought he was above them, and didnt really take into account that it was a football day.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:54 pm
by Phil
bigfatjoes wrote:
Phil wrote:I'll let you know when I find out if Im being prosicuted or not for drinking on the train what I thought of the policing :twisted:
did you get done to? few blokes who was sitting next to me on the train got, done to. well details were taking, and one of them was a copper himself and said he doesnt even no if the rule exisited and if it did he hadnt been told about it!
The police men who got them, was a rite as* hole an all, thought he was above them, and didnt really take into account that it was a football day.
I stood right behind a copper and drank the first one shifted up the train when got to stowemarket opened a second one and the same copper came straight over and took my details. there was no warning what so ever given to me before I got on the train.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:03 pm
by The Gaffer
Phil wrote:
bigfatjoes wrote:
Phil wrote:I'll let you know when I find out if Im being prosicuted or not for drinking on the train what I thought of the policing :twisted:
did you get done to? few blokes who was sitting next to me on the train got, done to. well details were taking, and one of them was a copper himself and said he doesnt even no if the rule exisited and if it did he hadnt been told about it!
The police men who got them, was a rite as* hole an all, thought he was above them, and didnt really take into account that it was a football day.
I stood right behind a copper and drank the first one shifted up the train when got to stowemarket opened a second one and the same copper came straight over and took my details. there was no warning what so ever given to me before I got on the train.
yer same with these bloke to, they was just sitting on a table seat drinking 3 forsters not doing nothing wrong and they just bowled over and took their details. none of the blokes got aggressive or anything and said oww you can take the beers, then the copper went "its abit more serious then that" soo they just went, ow and carried on drinking lol .

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:57 am
by McDonna29
Phil wrote:I'll let you know when I find out if Im being prosicuted or not for drinking on the train what I thought of the policing :twisted:
Am I missing something here? If you're not allowed to drink on a train, how come you can buy booze at the food place on them?

Or is it a "special" football rule that no one on the face of the planet other than the police knows about?

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:59 am
by uefacup81
You gotta remember McDonna, that all us football fans - esp. Ipswich - are mindless thugs that'll rip the heads of baby ducks for a laugh. If we're ever allowed near a pint - especially on a train - the consequences don't even bear thinking about! :lol: :wink:

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:53 am
by Phil
McDonna25 wrote:
Phil wrote:I'll let you know when I find out if Im being prosicuted or not for drinking on the train what I thought of the policing :twisted:
Am I missing something here? If you're not allowed to drink on a train, how come you can buy booze at the food place on them?

Or is it a "special" football rule that no one on the face of the planet other than the police knows about?
its a special football rule that applied to the 1 train. If I had got the train that left 5 minutes after the football special train I would have been able to drink as it wasn't a special service.

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:53 am
by Anglo-Saxon
McDonna25 wrote:
Phil wrote:I'll let you know when I find out if Im being prosicuted or not for drinking on the train what I thought of the policing :twisted:
Am I missing something here? If you're not allowed to drink on a train, how come you can buy booze at the food place on them?

Or is it a "special" football rule that no one on the face of the planet other than the police knows about?
There was no bar on the special train, I went to Nodg the last time we played and it was said that you were not allowed to take alcohol on the train.

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:16 am
by Kheffan
uefacup81 wrote:You gotta remember McDonna, that all us football fans - esp. Ipswich - are mindless thugs that'll rip the heads of baby ducks for a laugh. If we're ever allowed near a pint - especially on a train - the consequences don't even bear thinking about! :lol: :wink:
going by Dazza's photos you were more like farmyard animals, only thing missing was the straw and copius amount of cow pats :wink: .

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:27 am
by carvs__
The chap two seats aloong from me got hauled out after we scored the 2nd goal.

I made a dash down the isle torwards the boys celebrating and got man-handled by a copper, Naturally I ignored him but got told to return to my seat otherwise he'll chuck me out - For once I did as I was told becasue I didn't wanna miss all the stick I could dish out to the Barclay Boys!

Kinda did take the edge of it though when your going mad and some jobworth copper interfers.

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:29 pm
by owain
Or is it a "special" football rule that no one on the face of the planet other than the police knows about?
Yeah, basically. They have to put a poster up in Narrich station a few days in advance, saying which trains it applies to. And it's not necessarily just the football specials, either.[/quote]