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Can we get more points?

Q.P.R. Win
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29%
Town Win
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29%
Draw
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43%
 
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Post by Bluemike » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:28 pm

Chalobah tried his nuts off but OMG the rest !!

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:30 pm

Nolans mistake was terminal and as poor as we were there hadn't been a lot in it up until then but we just gift goals on a regular basis.

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Post by nicscreamer » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:34 pm

You could almost see the confidence drain after that first mistake. The team are still very fragile despite the recent couple of good results. We need reinforcements in quickly in January to give some new zest to the team. I still believe we can stay up, but it’s not getting any easier.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:20 pm

PL might as well change the 11 for the Boro game. Or try something different. Apart from Chalobah none of them deserve to keep there place. So Jackson up front Roberts wide left Lankester wide right Dozzell in the middle. Nsiala for Chambers. Kenlock for Knudsen, Donacian for Spence. Why not something has to give.

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Post by MasseyFerguson » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:48 pm

After a couple of decent results we seem to be back to square one. The lack of quality in the squad was again evident today. I don't believe PL is a good enough manager to get the results we need to avoid relegation with this squad. Let's see what the transfer window brings but I'm increasingly resigned to seeing us go down this season.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:18 pm

MasseyFerguson wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:48 pm
After a couple of decent results we seem to be back to square one. The lack of quality in the squad was again evident today. I don't believe PL is a good enough manager to get the results we need to avoid relegation with this squad. Let's see what the transfer window brings but I'm increasingly resigned to seeing us go down this season.
Not fair on lambert i feel. I doubt any manager will keep town up with this squad. The players on paper should be good enough but they are just not putting in the effort.
Cant wait till next month when some of these freeloaders are replaced. Should be embarresed to take a wage, if i ever did a sub standard job, i would be ashamed and charge accordingly, regardless of a contract. My national league local team can pass a ball better than this lot. PL cant make a silk purse out of pig sh*t.

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Post by Andym » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:19 pm

MasseyFerguson wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:48 pm
After a couple of decent results we seem to be back to square one. The lack of quality in the squad was again evident today. I don't believe PL is a good enough manager to get the results we need to avoid relegation with this squad. Let's see what the transfer window brings but I'm increasingly resigned to seeing us go down this season.
I think most agree the squad is not good enough to avoid relegation.

Even I have reached the stage where I'd prefer an ugly win to decent football. In fact the two previous results (the win and draw) were not good footballing performances.

I felt sorry for Nolan today. I don't really rate him but it was such an awful error. I keep watching it and still can't decide who he was trying to pass to. But the keeper should have done better. And the bloke who scored from the rebound ran through from nowhere without anyone going with him. So that's 3 mistakes for the first goal.

For the second we have away a free kick In a dangerous area. For a team who can't defend crosses we give away a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas.

It's one of the big changes from last season. Under MM as soon as we lost possession we channelled back without tackling. We made fewer tackles and conceded more shots than anyone else in the league. This season we try to tackle which is why we concede more free kicks than the opposition nearly every week.

I think that's part of the reason why Bart has done so badly. Previously we got back and the opposition came through the middle and shot. Bart was a decent shot stopper while on form and confident. This season by trying to tackle higher up at have been attacked more down the wings, or giving away free kicks. Either way the crosses come in and that was never Bart's strength. We actually struggle to win a header anywhere on the pitch as we are short and not physically strong generally.

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Post by MasseyFerguson » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:36 pm

ipswichtownNo1 wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:18 pm
MasseyFerguson wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:48 pm
After a couple of decent results we seem to be back to square one. The lack of quality in the squad was again evident today. I don't believe PL is a good enough manager to get the results we need to avoid relegation with this squad. Let's see what the transfer window brings but I'm increasingly resigned to seeing us go down this season.
Not fair on lambert i feel. I doubt any manager will keep town up with this squad. The players on paper should be good enough but they are just not putting in the effort.
Cant wait till next month when some of these freeloaders are replaced. Should be embarresed to take a wage, if i ever did a sub standard job, i would be ashamed and charge accordingly, regardless of a contract. My national league local team can pass a ball better than this lot. PL cant make a silk purse out of pig sh*t.
I wasn't having a go at PL.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:24 pm

Didnt think you were, just saying no manager is good enough with this squad

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Post by barmy billy » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:26 pm

Sorry ITFC No1, but I think your saying the players are not putting in the effort is a reflection on Paul Lambert by inferring he s not getting the best out of them. I think it is worth remembering the young age of some of them and also that several have not played in the Championship before.

I think Lamber is getting all that he can reasonably expect and that the issues are down to inexperience rather than lack of effort.
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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:27 pm

Just read the match report from PL, seems we have another manager with blue tinted glasses. Thought PL would be different, maybe these managers all have the same PR consultant as we are hearing the same BS as PH and MM now

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Post by Frosty » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:52 pm

ipswichtownNo1 wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:27 pm
Just read the match report from PL, seems we have another manager with blue tinted glasses. Thought PL would be different, maybe these managers all have the same PR consultant as we are hearing the same BS as PH and MM now

I know where you are coming from mate, it really depends what is said behind closed doors that matters.

I agree, his after match comments always come across looking at the glass half full, but I don't think there is a lot of value at the moment torching the players in public. With the level of morale in the squad no doubt fragile, I imagine he is taking the safe road until possibly he can make additions to the squad when the transfer window opens.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:00 pm

barmy billy wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:26 pm
Sorry Massey F. but I think your saying the players are not putting in the effort is a reflection on Paul Lambert by inferring he s not getting the best out of them. I think it is worth remembering the young age of some of them and also that several have not played in the Championship before.

I think Lamber is getting all that he can reasonably expect and that the issues are down to inexperience rather than lack of effort.
No, im saying PL is getting the best out of the team, thats the point, the team squad is dire at the moment and until the players start doing what they should then no manager will be good enough to get anymore.

Young or not, these professionals have not started playing the game in the last two years and by now they should be able to play the game without making so many basic errors.

And as for age, Chalobah is what, 19,20? He was the only player today that played really well. The only other player starting today at 19 is downes, everyone else is 24 or over. I dont agree that this team is too young and inexperienced.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:10 pm

Frosty wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:52 pm
ipswichtownNo1 wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:27 pm
Just read the match report from PL, seems we have another manager with blue tinted glasses. Thought PL would be different, maybe these managers all have the same PR consultant as we are hearing the same BS as PH and MM now

I know where you are coming from mate, it really depends what is said behind closed doors that matters.

I agree, his after match comments always come across looking at the glass half full, but I don't think there is a lot of value at the moment torching the players in public. With the level of morale in the squad no doubt fragile, I imagine he is taking the safe road until possibly he can make additions to the squad when the transfer window opens.
No doubt your right Frosty but fans shouldnt be treated like idiots when its plain for all to see. Insult to fans paying good money to support the club. PL does not need to publicly shame players, the game was on live tv for all to see. I just wish the managers dont blantently lie, just say we were beaten by a better team, end of. Id have more patience and respect for them and itfc as a whole if they did.

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:38 pm

Just a side note, am I the only one who thought it wasnt even a foul that led to the free kick for the second goal ? Only seen it once mind.

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Post by saint jude » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:18 am

Gave the game a miss this night, seems didn't miss out on a great much. All said the team were well beaten, game reports suggest the opposition may have added further strikes although bizarre thing being we had the majority of possession it so claims.

2 wins in 24 and six, seven points adrift of the drop line, it don't make pleasant reading. We got an average team that can pull together and provide results here and there but too inconsistently to avert the mess we're in. No sense in castigating the manager, he's only just got in, but you feel maybe whoever was appointed had a mammoth task on their hands to steer the team back to safe water and regain pride and status.

The Millwall, Accrington and Rotherham fixtures shall define the whole season. Good measure there of how poor or hopeful the team actually is, maybe the players are too complacent to realize the threat of relegation, could be a rude shock further up the line for many if such instances as tonight are repeated.

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Post by wilnisfan » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:53 am

It's going to take some decent reinforcements to lift this squad and those that come in have extra pressure. Get them in early and at the same time. Easier said than done though.

Agree with Andym's comment about funnelling back. It's clever use of positioning to maximise our strengths and disguise our weaknesses. Unfortunately we are equally weak in the middle as out wide. So there aren't that many strengths to play with.

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Post by marko69 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:36 am

shamm wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:58 pm
Hopes of survival in the division fades.
Really making this impossible to drag into Jan to give us any hope with new players!
Feeling deflated this year end.
Yes, agree with this. And if you also mean actually attracting players to the club in January, then agree even more.

Saw the highlights and Its all fast becoming a lost cause.

Also agree with ITNO1 ——-> quit bullshitting the fans. Be more like Warnock; say it like it is.

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Post by barmy billy » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:22 am

[quote]Hopes of survival in the division fades.
Really making this impossible to drag into Jan to give us any hope with new players!
Feeling deflated this year end.[/quote]


[quote]Yes, agree with this. And if you also mean actually attracting players to the club in January, then agree even more.

Saw the highlights and Its all fast becoming a lost cause.

Also agree with ITNO1 ——-> quit bullshitting the fans. Be more like Warnock; say it like it is.[/quote]


Oh dear, despair is taking hold and rumblings & feelings discontent with the manager being mooted. All too soon in my book & I am confident we will get out of with PL bringing in some new faces shortly. I can't agree that PL is bullshitting the fans; he does say it like it is, but in such away that it does not detract from what the players have achieved since he took over the Hurst debacle. Looking back just a few short weeks, he has revitalized the club from top to bottom which is no mean achievement in such a short time. I accept that it is not producing much needed points, but that just shows how bad things were when he arrived.

Results will turn in our direction and we will hopefully avoid the dreaded relegation.

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Post by barmy billy » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:27 am

Apologies for the cockup. I don't know how to get out of it.

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Post by marko69 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:22 pm

If you look back and read ALL of what ITNO1 has said........ It's not PL who is bullshitting, it's the public relations guideline crap that he, MM and Hurst no doubt need to follow. It's not anyone having a go at PL himself. Most agree that he's been a breath of fresh air to the club and that he's inherited a breath of Suffolk farmland sh*te to try and sort out.

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:47 pm

I think we need to realise that because we had Two relatively good results at home it doesn't change much, the bigger picture is that PL has improved many things in a short space of time and has said on numerous occasions the squad needs help, and while I thought we were really bad yesterday we are still as you were in terms of ability, Andy hits the nail on the head in that no manager in the world can account for errors like the one's witnessed yesterday. As for how we approach games, we have to go for the win every single time, if we don't we may as well have kept MM.

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Post by Magicmark » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:51 pm

I can understand why people are disapppoined in the manner we lost yesterday,but we were never going to win this game ,against a confident QPR side that has beaten us at there turf four years, Are people actually asking for PL to leave?seriously deluded if that's the case.Guess you get the moaners that never wanted him.

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Magicmark wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:51 pm
I can understand why people are disapppoined in the manner we lost yesterday,but we were never going to win this game ,against a confident QPR side that has beaten us at there turf for years,Are people actually asking for PL to leave?seriously deluded if that's the case.Guess you get the moaners that never wanted him.

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Post by wilnisfan » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:30 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:47 pm
I think we need to realise that because we had Two relatively good results at home it doesn't change much, the bigger picture is that PL has improved many things in a short space of time and has said on numerous occasions the squad needs help, and while I thought we were really bad yesterday we are still as you were in terms of ability, Andy hits the nail on the head in that no manager in the world can account for errors like the one's witnessed yesterday. As for how we approach games, we have to go for the win every single time, if we don't we may as well have kept MM.
I agree. When you mention MM, perhaps the type of football we played under him was dour but kept us afloat in the league. Have to say his purchasing was very good, just that ME sold players from under him and replaced them with player like Knudsen for Mings.

Sorry I've been away for a while and understand how controversial that statement may be!

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Post by Bluemike » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:46 pm

Magicmark wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:51 pm
I can understand why people are disapppoined in the manner we lost yesterday,but we were never going to win this game ,against a confident QPR side that has beaten us at there turf four years, Are people actually asking for PL to leave? seriously deluded if that's the case.Guess you get the moaners that never wanted him.
Tell me that isn't the case ? Surely to god no ??

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Post by derick_ipsw » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:18 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:46 pm
Magicmark wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:51 pm
I can understand why people are disapppoined in the manner we lost yesterday,but we were never going to win this game ,against a confident QPR side that has beaten us at there turf four years, Are people actually asking for PL to leave? seriously deluded if that's the case.Guess you get the moaners that never wanted him.
Tell me that isn't the case ? Surely to god no ??
I hope not. PL needs to be here next season.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:29 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:30 pm
Nolans mistake was terminal and as poor as we were there hadn't been a lot in it up until then but we just gift goals on a regular basis.

Agree but Gerkin was just as bad for the first. Push it wide or hold it but never push it towards the pen spot. Pennington was at fault for the second he also allowed the cross for the third. Chambers should never of given that much space Wells to turn and shoot for the third either.

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Post by saint jude » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:53 pm

Guessing there are a minority that are advocating Lambert's departure, no prizes where to find them, in a sense you can understand the frustrations but requesting three different managerial names in six months is unlikely to occur.

Don't agree with the never going to achieve a victory issue also. We got players that are capable, it's Queens Park Rangers for fucks sake not Hungary of the 1950's. I believed we could travel over and take three points and why not. Regrettably (one or two players apart) the team decided in their wisdom to endure another 'day off' although truth be told we did manage to create the greater possession.

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Post by MasseyFerguson » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:49 am

I haven't seen anyone suggest that we get rid of PL on this forum. That would be madness, especially with the transfer window opening and the consequential possibility of injecting new blood.

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