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Woman’s World Cup

Post by hallamblue » Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:55 pm

Come on England !!

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:15 pm

What a great way to ruin a decent game eh Hallam?

Fking absolute bullshit.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Bluemike » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:45 pm

I don't get it either, I wouldn't want blokes to play Netball, just ain't right.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Ricco » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:52 pm

Shouldn't the ball be pink?

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:24 pm

:lol: Hallam, my post was about the VAR decision....... those two bawbags are talking about women’s fitbaw though! 😂 Kick arse dawlin!

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Post by Charnwood » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:05 pm

I don’t get it either Mike, but that scouser bird could teach many a bloke how to score a penalty.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:10 pm

And pass.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Charnwood » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:15 pm

I have to be a little bit circumspect with my comments with my neighbour being the FA Director of Women’s Football with a brief to win the World Cup. Since her appointment I have shown a little more interest and I must say the standard appears to have improved significantly over recent years.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:24 pm

Certainly has. More entertaining than anything else ive watched (on TV) this past season. Both Scotland & England were very impressive indeed.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by hallamblue » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:23 pm

marko69 wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:24 pm
:lol: Hallam, my post was about the VAR decision....... those two bawbags are talking about women’s fitbaw though! 😂 Kick arse dawlin!
I know marko , I’m just ignoring them !!

It was never a penalty IMO . What a load of bollox .

VAR isn’t bad, it’s how it’s interpreted that’s the problem !!

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by saint jude » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:33 pm

I got no issue in Women's soccer or sports participation as a whole, in fact it's perhaps to be encouraged. Taking or having a tangible interest however is another matter.

No game should be ideally exclusive to gender and that females are involved in an exhibit of considerable focus is all very well and good. Regardless of the US being current Champions and doubtless one of the favorites to take this years title, won't be focusing too much on what occurs. Wish those participating well, say again it's good to see a different variety of tournament not exclusive to one sex or gender.

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Post by Ohiotractorboy » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:52 am

I, personally, like both World Cups. Not overly excited with this US team, as they already said if they win they wont go to the White House and see Trump.

Rather presumptuous on their part, and does politics have to enter EVERYTHING we do anymore? Also, did it occur to them they are representing the US, and all those in it including those who voted for Trump.

And for F#ck sake, replay is killing sports. The Kentucky Derby, along with the Triple Crown, was ruined by it, NFL refs are getting worse by the year because of it, and that handball decision against Scotland was a joke.

OK, I am done.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Bluemike » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:47 am

hallamblue wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:23 pm
marko69 wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:24 pm
:lol: Hallam, my post was about the VAR decision....... those two bawbags are talking about women’s fitbaw though! 😂 Kick arse dawlin!
I know marko , I’m just ignoring them !!

It was never a penalty IMO . What a load of bollox .

VAR isn’t bad, it’s how it’s interpreted that’s the problem !!
That's one thing you won't get in woman's football.... a load of bollocks !!

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by derick_ipsw » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:20 am

Why don't they swap shirts at the end of the game?

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

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Ohiotractorboy wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:52 am
And for F#ck sake, replay is killing sports...... and that handball decision against Scotland was a joke.
They’ve created a monster with this “interpretation” Ohio. Next season really will be a proper joke with some handball decisions.

I 100% agreed with Hoddle during the CL Final last weekend when Mane, (in my opinion) intentionally flicked the ball onto the Spurs players arm from two yards away. People can argue until doomsday about the “unnatural arm” but defenders need to defend. Stretching to block a cross or a shot requires a movement which can’t be done with the arms pinned.

The new interpretation of handball is creating a huge monster and forwards / wingbacks next season will be getting to the 18 yard box and aiming for an arm.

And then the refs will create an even bigger consistency issue. It’s all f#cked.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:10 am

derick_ipsw wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:20 am
Why don't they swap shirts at the end of the game?
Hahahahaha!! 😆

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by tangfastic » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:19 am

marko69 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:08 am
Ohiotractorboy wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:52 am
And for F#ck sake, replay is killing sports...... and that handball decision against Scotland was a joke.
They’ve created a monster with this “interpretation” Ohio. Next season really will be a proper joke with some handball decisions.

I 100% agreed with Hoddle during the CL Final last weekend when Mane, (in my opinion) intentionally flicked the ball onto the Spurs players arm from two yards away. People can argue until doomsday about the “unnatural arm” but defenders need to defend. Stretching to block a cross or a shot requires a movement which can’t be done with the arms pinned.

The new interpretation of handball is creating a huge monster and forwards / wingbacks next season will be getting to the 18 yard box and aiming for an arm.

And then the refs will create an even bigger consistency issue. It’s all f#cked.
Definately a concern. It could be a case that players now practice in training aiming for a defenders arm and games get decided on penalties.
Instead of changing rules to make it easier for referees, they should train referees more on identifying the blatant, deliberate handballs rather than a ball hitting an arm. I’m sure the original handball law was put in place to stop cheating, but now that’s taken as a ball hitting the arm or hand as stopping a goal scoring opportunity. Anyone who watches the game knows that most crosses that beat the first defender don’t result in a goal or even a goal-scoring opportunity, yet hitting a defender on the arm from a short distance could be the best way to score a goal.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:36 am

Here’s another issue. Being in a wall inside the box? Do you stand with your hands behind your back or covering the Crown Jewels? Because if a freekick gets launched in at Exocet missile speed towards the crowns, and it hits your arm??? Penalty. Why would it not be? It’s stopping a possible shot on target.

Shambles run by a shower of clueless C words.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by AzzurroMark » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:57 am

marko69 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:36 am
Here’s another issue. Being in a wall inside the box? Do you stand with your hands behind your back or covering the Crown Jewels? Because if a freekick gets launched in at Exocet missile speed towards the crowns, and it hits your arm??? Penalty. Why would it not be? It’s stopping a possible shot on target.

Shambles run by a shower of clueless C words.
I think the rules are along the lines of "...that if the player's arms extend beyond a "natural silhouette", handball will be given"! Well sorry, i think covering your crown jewels would be a pretty darned 'natural silhouette' in all cases! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:47 pm

“OHHHH, That’s gotta hurt, Steve. Square in the meat and two veg at speed. I think that could be the end of his child bearing years.”

“Yeah, but at least it’s not a penalty, Fletch.”

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Ohiotractorboy » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:36 pm

marko69 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:47 pm
“OHHHH, That’s gotta hurt, Steve. Square in the meat and two veg at speed. I think that could be the end of his child bearing years.”

“Yeah, but at least it’s not a penalty, Fletch.”
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Ohiotractorboy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:38 pm

13-0.

Big debate over whether this is unsportsmanlike, or if it is needed as the growth of women's soccer continues. Personally, I don't have a problem with the score line as I don't think it is up to a team to stop themselves. I also agree that as the sport grows, these huge mismatches will happen as while the top 10 are competitive with each other, the talent drops exponentially as you go down the list. This isn't as bad as it sounds, as just twenty years ago it was basically 3 teams.

The problem I had were the celebrations after goals 9-13. I know its exciting to score in a World Cup, but geez Alex, it is your 5th of the GAME! I could score a few on some first graders, but how much of a good time would that be?

In the end, I think it is good as the US is the #1 team and they came out like the neighborhood bullies and beat up some poor kid down the street. They already had a business target on their backs due to their rankings, now they have personal targets. Every sport needs a villain.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:32 am

Ohiotractorboy wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:38 pm
The problem I had were the celebrations after goals 9-13. I know its exciting to score in a World Cup, but geez Alex, it is your 5th of the GAME! I could score a few on some first graders, but how much of a good time would that be?
There is a bit of a weird flip side to this though, Ohio. Imagine they didn't celebrate after goal 8 and just headed back to the centre circle......., imagine there were just a few "high 5's" here and there. Wouldn't this signal a "this is a piece of pi$$" attitude?

I remember back in 91 or 92, Scotland men were pumped 5-0 by Portugal. Goals 4 & 5 weren't celebrated that much by the Portuguese. That was actually more annoying. Definitely a flip side when teams stop intensely celebrating.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by saint jude » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:49 am

Recall that night quite vivid. Qualification for USA '94 wasn't it. Seems strange in a sense as for one thing the Huns got to within one goal of a European Cup Final around that time and Portugal were something of an unknown / no-thrills quantity, years back before Figo, Gomes, Rui Costa, et cetera.

Achieving a double score incidentally against Thailand was impressive but it's just one expected victory and nothing is decided. Say again if the team does accomplish another world title it'll be good enough but won't be 'celebrating' to any great extent.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Ohiotractorboy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:46 pm

marko69 wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:32 am
Ohiotractorboy wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:38 pm
The problem I had were the celebrations after goals 9-13. I know its exciting to score in a World Cup, but geez Alex, it is your 5th of the GAME! I could score a few on some first graders, but how much of a good time would that be?
There is a bit of a weird flip side to this though, Ohio. Imagine they didn't celebrate after goal 8 and just headed back to the centre circle......., imagine there were just a few "high 5's" here and there. Wouldn't this signal a "this is a piece of pi$$" attitude?

I remember back in 91 or 92, Scotland men were pumped 5-0 by Portugal. Goals 4 & 5 weren't celebrated that much by the Portuguese. That was actually more annoying. Definitely a flip side when teams stop intensely celebrating.
Fair point, marko. I remember watching a documentary on college football one time and Florida was beating the crap out of Miami one time. Late in the game, the Florida players laid down on the field and let Miami score so they could get the ball back and their QB could set a record. It didnt set well with Miami players, and I guess if the US took a "no big deal" attitude it would be the same.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Steve and Jo » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:56 am

Just watch highlights from the France verses Nigeria game. Found it quite shameful actually from the officials controlling that bloody awful VAR.

Yes its new and yes its going to take time to get the system right but really its still matter of opinions far as the penalty in the first place concerned, then if going to take penalties again for what the keeper did then forget penalties, just give them penalties goals instead.

For me i thought VAR was in cases where the referee clearly made a mistake. The penalty was 50/50, for me it was not clear cut, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't but its nowhere clear cut definitely a penalty. In this case i thought VAR would say no clear mistake from the ref, play on but no, now we have the opinion of somebody watching a screen.

Not only was it a soft penalty then VAR made them take it again and this is because at the time of the taker striking the ball the keeper had came off her line by inches!!
If the keeper had saved the pen then maybe just maybe and this is only slight maybe the ref could of said retaken. But the taker missed the goal by hitting the post. VAR totally intervened and taken the ref's place and her assistant. Every keeper does this. So are we just going to retake until the taker scores? If really going down this rout then the penalty should of been taken yet again because players running into the box before the ball was kicked.

VAR should be kept to matter of facts, ball crossing lines and offsides, even helping a ref deciding was that a yellow card or red card. Stress the word "helping", never replacing a referee for which in my opinion this VAR control person actually was doing.
For me now all what the VAR is doing is transferring the ref's opinion to somebody watching on a screen which is no different than us watching and certainly not for 50/50 possibilities like that penalty.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by nicscreamer » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:51 am

I think the penalty was just about the correct decision, these types of incident sometimes go either way. But the re-take was a travesty. The poor keeper moved by inches fractions of a second before the player kicked the ball. Its madness to make them retake. France missed and the game should have continued.

If VAR is going to be used like this it will destroy the game.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Steve and Jo » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:55 pm

Not saying it wasn't a penalty but saying its not clear cut. Yes sometimes go for you, sometimes against so whats the difference from the Referee doing that? If there's a clear mistake then fine, but there was not a clear mistake, one of those where lots will say yes pen, lots say no, that's soft.

What really gets me is why did VAR get involved on the keeper? Every penalty should from now be retaken then for always players encroach and keepers just by fractions move forwards. Would they of retaken if the French had scored?

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by marko69 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:13 am

I didn't see the France game because Scotland 1 England 2 and Scotland 1 Japan 2, so feck off Women's World Cup.

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Re: Woman’s World Cup

Post by Ando » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:55 pm

marko69 wrote:
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I didn't see the France game because Scotland 1 England 2 and Scotland 1 Japan 2, so feck off Women's World Cup.
What’s wrong Marko? Best set of results for Scotland in a World Cup since Archie played :D

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