Injuries at this Club

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Re: Injuries at this Club

Post by tangfastic » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 am

hallamblue wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:51 am
Tang: of course I agree Skuse has probably had his day now. But my question was who have we got that can fill that role now ?

Downes is out for 3 months plus. So who else is there ?

On the question of Downes. He does seem / appear to be a tad reckless in his tackling . Yes I love a player that goes snd gets the ball . But the refs are very hot on overly aggressive play , and tackles from behind these days aren’t they ! He just seems to lunge in and unless he tempers / modifies that s little he’s going to see a lot of red cards in his career I think .


For now anyway, is Huws the one ?
No I don’t think anyone can truly do the same job as Downes. Including Skuse. We just assume that because Downes can do a defensive job, then Skuse is his obvious replacement. I think they’re two different players. Downes has more bite and strength and can provide more than Skuse going forward.
Seeing as we’ve got about 10 players in the squad who can play central midfield, then that says something about the balance of the squad if no one else can offer some defensive cover. Huws, Nolan, Judge, McGavin... I dunno... one of them has to step up if needed. It’s not as if Skuse was a one-man midfield defence who snuffed out every attack.... it should be a combined effort from the midfield. I don’t see a perfect solution... but what we miss out from Skuse defensively we can possibly gain more offensively from someone else. I’d say if we were to bring on Huws as a sub it would be to stiffen up the midfield as opposed to add more going forward. So maybe Huws.... I can’t see him as a number 8 anymore or a number 10 ... so maybe he could do the job of sitting deeper. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it as I doubt if both Skuse and Downes would have been in the first eleven anyway today if fit.

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Re: Injuries at this Club

Post by rossi » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:12 am

hallamblue wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:51 am
Tang: of course I agree Skuse has probably had his day now. But my question was who have we got that can fill that role now ?

Downes is out for 3 months plus. So who else is there
?

On the question of Downes. He does seem / appear to be a tad reckless in his tackling . Yes I love a player that goes snd gets the ball . But the refs are very hot on overly aggressive play , and tackles from behind these days aren’t they ! He just seems to lunge in and unless he tempers / modifies that s little he’s going to see a lot of red cards in his career I think .


For now anyway, is Huws the one ?
To be honest, I'm not sure we need anybody in a defensive midfield role - we play 4 across the back against a maximum of 3 strikers, so in my book if the defence are doing their jobs properly they will be able to do their own mopping up.

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Re: Injuries at this Club

Post by Ando » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:21 am

rossi wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:12 am
hallamblue wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:51 am
Tang: of course I agree Skuse has probably had his day now. But my question was who have we got that can fill that role now ?

Downes is out for 3 months plus. So who else is there
?

On the question of Downes. He does seem / appear to be a tad reckless in his tackling . Yes I love a player that goes snd gets the ball . But the refs are very hot on overly aggressive play , and tackles from behind these days aren’t they ! He just seems to lunge in and unless he tempers / modifies that s little he’s going to see a lot of red cards in his career I think .


For now anyway, is Huws the one ?
To be honest, I'm not sure we need anybody in a defensive midfield role - we play 4 across the back against a maximum of 3 strikers, so in my book if the defence are doing their jobs properly they will be able to do their own mopping up.
I agree Rossi, Dozzell is playing in that space and is the ball player, Downes has been playing ahead of dozzell, saying that the midfield does interchange a bit and Dozzell often pops up on the left wing. Tactically you do need someone to take up the space in front of the back four especially with the fullbacks pushing on.

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Re: Injuries at this Club

Post by Bluemike » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:31 am

If we are going to play a defensive midfielder then McGavin is the obvious choice from the remaining options, I'm just not sure about him tbh but he sits very deep as opposed to the likes of Huws etc.

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Re: Injuries at this Club

Post by tangfastic » Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:48 pm

Ando wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:21 am
rossi wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:12 am
hallamblue wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:51 am
Tang: of course I agree Skuse has probably had his day now. But my question was who have we got that can fill that role now ?

Downes is out for 3 months plus. So who else is there
?

On the question of Downes. He does seem / appear to be a tad reckless in his tackling . Yes I love a player that goes snd gets the ball . But the refs are very hot on overly aggressive play , and tackles from behind these days aren’t they ! He just seems to lunge in and unless he tempers / modifies that s little he’s going to see a lot of red cards in his career I think .


For now anyway, is Huws the one ?
To be honest, I'm not sure we need anybody in a defensive midfield role - we play 4 across the back against a maximum of 3 strikers, so in my book if the defence are doing their jobs properly they will be able to do their own mopping up.
I agree Rossi, Dozzell is playing in that space and is the ball player, Downes has been playing ahead of dozzell, saying that the midfield does interchange a bit and Dozzell often pops up on the left wing. Tactically you do need someone to take up the space in front of the back four especially with the fullbacks pushing on.
Agreed. So far we haven’t used a specific defensive midfielder yet and it’s working so far. We haven’t let many in and we’re scoring goals - from midfield !

I think it’s a team effort more than anything. When we didn’t have the ball yesterday, the team worked hard to get behind the ball and, at times, were able to break quickly. Early days but it might be a blessing in disguise that Downes and Skuse aren’t available. It means others have to take their chance... and maybe we need to back ourselves that if we will concede one or two, then we’ll score two or three.

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Re: Injuries at this Club

Post by Andym » Sun Oct 11, 2020 5:32 pm

I agree. We are covering well for each other. And st our best we are moving forward quickly and getting the midfield in the opposing penalty area.

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