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Judge

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:45 pm
by K L Blue
Seems to be in a bit of a pickle with the club now

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-to ... KHXONTA-W0

Re: Judge

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:07 pm
by lucy

Re: Judge

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:10 pm
by Bluemike
Good news at last

Re: Judge

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:22 pm
by nicscreamer
I’m sure Rossi will be ecstatic

Re: Judge

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:22 pm
by Charnwood
Just highlights how determined Paul Cook is to make sure the clear out happens and there are no prisoners taken, players will either be on or out. I definitely like this guys direct approach.

Re: Judge

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:32 pm
by number 9
Thanks for your service Judge. Not a fan, but he has put in a few hours for ITFC. Hopefully Dobra will get more game time now.

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:44 am
by rossi
It's really great news - and even better is that given Skuse has not been featured in the squad lately I'm guessing that he is in the same position.
Happy days indeed :D

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:19 am
by AzzurroMark
Judge has been one of the biggest disappointments in this squad for me. Arriving here, he had the undoubtable quality and experience of a player who should have been comfortable at Championship level and excelled at League One. Sadly we have never seen anything even near enough to that original promise.
Perhaps managers not playing him in his favourite role that much have contributed, but he just seems to constantly drift out of position. When i have watched him play he really has never lived up to his billing, in fact i wish we had cashed in on him when there was that interest a while back
Judge for me is like that classic car which looks good parked on a driveway, but is not fit for purpose when driving on the road!

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:21 am
by Tangfastic
He’s been a big disappointment. I thought he’d be a very influential player at this level.

I know he’s hated by quite a few, but I’ve never thought he was someone with a bad character and thought he usually gave his all. Sadly, not enough.

One thing.... he actually offered to waive his extension trigger.

Cook revealed Judge offered to waive the clause in his contract in order to play a part on the club’s final six games, but the Town boss stressed that was not an option as a duty of care to the 32-year-old.

I’d say that’s a pretty decent gesture by Judge.

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:27 am
by Bluemike
I'm so glad Cook declined it.

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:45 am
by Tangfastic
Well, if Cook is citing Duty of Care towards Judge, then that could extend to everyone else who’s not going to get a contract.

If anyone gets injured, then we’re responsible for looking after them during their recovery.

Be interesting to see the team sheet tomorrow as it really could reflect who’s staying and going.

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:53 pm
by Kerry Blue
I think that being played out of position most of the time has not helped Judge, also it was playing against Town that he got the bad injury caused by a bad tackle that put him out of the game for more than 18 months, it was surprising he came here but it's history now.

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:01 pm
by Bluemike
The thing is KB, Luke Chambers, Kayden Jackson, Andre Dozzell to name but Three have at some time or another played out of position.

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:26 pm
by rossi
Kerry Blue wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:53 pm
I think that being played out of position most of the time has not helped Judge, also it was playing against Town that he got the bad injury caused by a bad tackle that put him out of the game for more than 18 months, it was surprising he came here but it's history now.
Played out of position? I don't think so - actually it doesn't matter what position he's played at because he will ignore that and just wander all over the pitch as he sees fit.

And as for it being surprising he came here - he wasn't wanted any more by Brentford and we were about the only club interested in getting him on a free, where's the surprise in that? :wink:

Re: Judge

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:18 pm
by JOHN DEERE
To be fair to Judge, I think he never really came back from a horrific injury he suffered back in 2016. That season he had played exceptionally well and was in the Championship team of the season.

He has been a huge disappointment for us. I just wish we had got the player he was 5 years ago and not the anonymous shadow that we did get.

Re: Judge

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:34 am
by hallamblue
I don’t think we would have been able to afford him prior to his injury JD. If I’m right in thinking, he was on the cusp of a PL move ( clubs were paying an interest in him), then Hyam’s tackle finished all,that. The Brentford offloaded him. But that’s the game isnt it.I suppose in some ways you could say Town have “paid back” to him by giving him a good contract for the least 3 years.

Re: Judge

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:55 am
by valleyroad
Maybe best not hammering the player and just recognizing that his contract is up and at 32, Paul Cook is looking for a younger and better option. Given a number of years service to the club and should be thanked

Re: Judge

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:03 pm
by hallamblue
Tbh VR, Paul Cook has said that he will offload and make decisions about various players with the utmost dignity. And to his credit , he’s doing just that. He’s a proper manager IMO.

Re: Judge

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:36 am
by Dubai Blue
In this case both club and player have behaved with great dignity and respect and both deserve credit for it. From what I read and see on iPlayer it seems that Judge has been decent for us this year, one of the best performers but measured against a low bar of course. He has also been pretty injury free. However it seems that for one reason or another he doesn't fit within PCs plans for the rebuild and that's fair enough.

Re: Judge

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:52 am
by Bluemike
It depends how everyone sees it DB, for me Judge has been awful and one of the biggest under achievers.

Re: Judge

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:47 pm
by hallamblue
It was an interesting comment from Cook though, that he said Judge was a very strong character in the dressing room. But he hasn’t seen fit to keep a “very strong character” at the Club for another year. Maybe there’s more than one way of taking that comment, But PC is being very diplomatic?

Re: Judge

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:35 pm
by Dubai Blue
I think PC has made it very clear that he isn't going to criticise individual players in public. We should expect him to only state the positives about players that he is going to let go. We will never know his true thoughts, and that's probably as it should be. The players all have short careers and families to support.