League 1 - Ipswich Town vs Oxford United Preview & Matchday Thread

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Tough one to call?

Ipswich Win
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Oxford Win
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Draw
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37%
 
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Post by hallamblue » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:22 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:12 pm
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Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:10 pm
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A clean sheet against a more than capable Oxford side. Nice to see those mistakes gradually being ironed out hey! :wink:
Walton didn’t have a save to make did he !
We’re you late taking your seat Liz, he made a brilliant save on 6 mins that would otherwise have certainly put Oxford 0-1 ahead.
Must have been his only save then lol…. And happened when my computer was buffering!!

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Post by tangfastic » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:28 pm

AzzurroMark wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:07 pm
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Good debut by Bailey Clements.
A clean sheet against a more than capable Oxford side. Nice to see those mistakes gradually being ironed out hey! :wink:
But this is great for the MCCarthy fans. A nil-nil. nil. But this one an entertaining one. Perfect.

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Post by Charnwood » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:57 pm

You’re not wrong there Tang, that was as good a 0-0 draw as you will ever see especially in this league. Very entertaining and enjoyable to watch.

As for Paul Cook, I think he got his team selection right, his tactics were good and his substitutions spot on both timing and personnel.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:07 pm

As goaless draws go it wasn't bad, wasn't a classic either by any means. For me Oxford played the better football first half while we had the better chances and were denied by the woodwork, Walton made a vital save early doors too which kept it level.

I felt in that first half they moved the ball round better than us, won far more second ball and generally looked slightly better without creating anything clear cut.

The second half was definitely better by Town and we controlled much of it, openings were coming and going and way too many final balls and crosses were wasted, we just didn't overly work the keeper, Bonne had the best chance but underhit it badly.

In the end I felt a draw wasn't far off being correct but Town probably just edged the 90 minutes. Centre midfield was once again a concern and we lost that battle for me, Evans flatters to deceive and all too often is slow to react or out of position, Morsy had one of his least effective games. Burns just didn't get into the game and Bonne was mostly poor. Celina was a mix of good and lazy while I'm sorry to say it but Kyle Edwards is pish, every single time he fails to deliver, his crosses are woeful and all too often he runs up blind alleys, not impressed with him at all, not just today either.

I felt Edmundson was very good, Nsiala for the most part solid, one last ditch tackle in the first half in particular was superb and denied them an almost certain goal. Donacien was dependable as ever and Walton was solid in goal, he looks to be improving game on game.

For me Bailey Clements was excellent on his debut, clearly he was being targeted throughout but he stood firm and defended excellently, some of his forward runs were also impressive, definitely staked a claim today, for me better than Matt Penney.

I felt Sone Aluko was a different level to Kyle Edwards when he came on and has an end product, conor Chaplin too makes a big difference, for me he is the most naturally gifted player at the club.

All in all an OK point but it probably suits Oxford more, it keeps us in touch but still a big gap to the top Two, can't help but think how ridiculous it was to give Pigott 3 minutes, the lad isn't getting a chance to play himself into form.

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Post by hallamblue » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:44 pm

Thanks for that Mike.

I think Oxford can count themselves lucky to have got a point today. From what I saw they had the upper hand for the first 20mins, thereafter they did very little to bother us.

From Towns perspective, we have found a new left back in young Clements. What an accomplished performance by him today!

Our defence by and large, was in control and handled the inform opponents very well. No silly errors!

In attack, Bonne was less effective, but that was perhaps more to do with a poor collective performance from our creative midfielders , Burns was not “at it “ today at all. Celina made some really good telling passes at times but all too often gave the ball away. Edwards has basically been “sussed” by the opposition and he often finds himself marked out of games. As Mike states, there is no end product.

Going forward this season and for tug next two league games I’d be inclined to keep the defence as it was today. Defensive midfield is also keep the same , but creative midfielders I’d jiggle it about a bit now. I’d go with Chaplin as number 10, Burns on the right still but either put Celina out wide left or bring in Fraser . Of that last comment I’d probably go with Fraser wide left and Celina from the bench . Edwards needs to be dropped. I’m also thinking we should be looking to bring Pigott off the bench for Bonne, sooner in games. We need to start getting him more game time…, or even for a different formation if Cook ever would consider it, Bonne / Pigott up front together.

Sometimes there’s a need to freshen up the player combinations . It keeps them on their toes as well as give some players a rest and others some match time.

I think we will win at Sunderland.

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Post by Charnwood » Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:11 pm

I can only assume Pigott gets appearance money for his 3 min sub appearance unless his coming on was just to interrupt play, it has to be one of those two reasons.

With Bonne looking a little jaded I’d definitely give Joe a game at Oldham and starts for Aluko and Chaplin too. I think I’d keep Walton in goal as the defence look so much more confident knowing he’s behind them. I’d also give Morsy a rest as we don’t want him picking up a disciplinary card in a cup game. However with a relatively easy tie in the next round I’d go strong at Oldham and try to put the game to bed in the first half just like the other team in blue did at Wembley last night.

Although it’s an interesting prospect I think Bonne and Pigott up front together would just see them get in one another’s way.

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Post by hallamblue » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:14 pm

i don't think a yellow card in the cup game would see Morsy banned Andy. i think it has to be a league game.

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Post by Charnwood » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:19 pm

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Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:14 pm
i don't think a yellow card in the cup game would see Morsy banned Andy. i think it has to be a league game.
Thanks Liz. I do love his passion but he definitely needs to curb the unnecessary petty aggression in his play which refs enjoy penalising. I think he’s got 4 yellows so far but I’m not sure how many he’s allowed before getting a ban ?

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Post by shabba » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:55 pm

Brilliant write ups, thanks for those who have done those as it paints a clearer picture for those who couldn’t see the game.

It’s such a good thing that we have such depth now and we can debate who should start and switching players in and out if form drops.

I hope we rest a lot for Oldham as I personally feel we need to get some players minutes to sharpen them up (Piggot is the priority) and rest some like Burns, Morsey and Edmundson.

I think the club just want a big third round away game to boost the coffers for January.

Agree Edwards needs dropping now, such early promise but hasn’t had enough of an impact of late and we have many options now on the left, Celina is the se sinks swap but Fraser is someone who brings something different and would work well as a player who can play that killer pass others don’t see.

Also agree Champlin is absolute quality.

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Post by tangfastic » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:01 am

With Chaplin, Aluko and Fraser on the bench it’s about time Edwards is given a rest. We need end product.

And Chaplin was playing brilliant at 10, before his injury. Stick him back there and let Celina earn his place on the wing.

Really good debut from Clements. Defended better than Penney and just needs a bit more confidence in the final third..

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Post by tangfastic » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:05 am

Charnwood wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:19 pm
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i don't think a yellow card in the cup game would see Morsy banned Andy. i think it has to be a league game.
Thanks Liz. I do love his passion but he definitely needs to curb the unnecessary petty aggression in his play which refs enjoy penalising. I think he’s got 4 yellows so far but I’m not sure how many he’s allowed before getting a ban ?
You need 5 for a one match ban, but the slate is wiped clean after 18 games. Nearly there. If you get 10 yellows after 32 games it’s a 2 game ban.

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Post by Dubai Blue » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:37 am

Thanks for all the reports. It definitely sounds like a 'winning draw'.

Isn't it great to be able to introduce one youngster into an experienced side instead of having to rely on about 5 of them :wink:

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Post by Charnwood » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:37 am

tangfastic wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:05 am
Charnwood wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:19 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:14 pm
i don't think a yellow card in the cup game would see Morsy banned Andy. i think it has to be a league game.
Thanks Liz. I do love his passion but he definitely needs to curb the unnecessary petty aggression in his play which refs enjoy penalising. I think he’s got 4 yellows so far but I’m not sure how many he’s allowed before getting a ban ?
You need 5 for a one match ban, but the slate is wiped clean after 18 games. Nearly there. If you get 10 yellows after 32 games it’s a 2 game ban.

Thanks for this Tang, in the short term then Morsy just has to make sure he doesn’t pick up a yellow in the Sunderland game to avoid a 1 game ban. Is the slate wiped clean ?..... how this reads is that the 4 cards he already has roll over into the second phase during which he can gather a further 5 by Game Week 32 and avoid a 2 game ban.

I understand a third phase kicks in which runs to Week 38 when a 3 match ban is given for 15 accumulated yellow cards.

What I don’t understand is if a player could be given all three bans, or is the slate swiped clean as soon as a ban is served.

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Post by tangfastic » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:48 am

Charnwood wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:37 am
tangfastic wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:05 am
Charnwood wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:19 pm


Thanks Liz. I do love his passion but he definitely needs to curb the unnecessary petty aggression in his play which refs enjoy penalising. I think he’s got 4 yellows so far but I’m not sure how many he’s allowed before getting a ban ?
You need 5 for a one match ban, but the slate is wiped clean after 18 games. Nearly there. If you get 10 yellows after 32 games it’s a 2 game ban.

Thanks for making that clear Tang, in the short term he just has to make sure he doesn’t pick up a yellow in the Sunderland game to avoid a 1 game ban. Is the slate wiped clean ?..... how this reads is that the 4 he already has roll over into the second phase during which he can gather a further 5 by Game Week 32 to avoid a 2 game ban.
I guess it’s not wiped clean. But if he doesn’t get another yellow after the 18 th game then he’s got another 14 more games to not get another 6. TBH, he’s likely to get another 6 in 14 or 15 games the way he’s going. And he’s also served a 3 match ban for a red whilst at Boro. I suppose it’s more of a breathing space than a wiped slate.

But, thinking just short-term, hope he’s available for Rotherham after Sunderland.

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Post by Charnwood » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:15 am

What frustrates me about him Tang is the unnecessary cards he picks up by getting involved in situations he could easily avoid.

As I said in an earlier post I simply love his passion for the game but as a Captain he really needs to set a better example in term of his self discipline. If he could just avoid 1 in 4 of his cards it could mean the difference in being available for 6 extra games over a season, surely that’s worth the effort.

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:30 am

I think you are right that Morsy gets involved in things he need not, I also think he tries to do too much at times which is partly down to Evans and his occasional limitations

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Post by hallamblue » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:12 pm

It seems the Lee Evans topic is a hot topic of conversation amongst Town fans right now ….

There some interesting points made on this twtd thread especially second page …. Here’s the link if anyone is interested guys…


https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/522311/tim ... e-team/#26

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Post by rossi » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:41 pm

It was actually quite an entertaining game for a 0-0, and overall a good advert for the division.

Cannot understand PC saying we deserved to win it though - I thought it was a very fair result.

So - PC was quoted before the game as saying this game would serve as a benchmark for exactly where we are at the moment.
For us to be considered to be in a good place, I would have expected that we needed to win, given that we had home advantage.
We could only manage a draw though - not disastrous by any means but I would say that where we are in the league is about right and there is some way to go yet before we're good enough to make the play-off places. Whether or not we can do that this season remains to be seen.

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Post by Shed on tour » Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:33 pm

Imo draw was a fair result. Still don’t see us as a top 6 side and unless additions are made in January will be surprised to see us involved in the playoffs come May.

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Post by Ricco » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:56 pm

What additions do you reckon Shed? Left back, centre back? I don't think I'd want extra players elsewhere to be honest.

Would be good to have a second Morsy for the 15 games a season he misses suspended!

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Ricco wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:56 pm
What additions do you reckon Shed? Left back, centre back? I don't think I'd want extra players elsewhere to be honest.

Would be good to have a second Morsy for the 15 games a season he misses suspended!
Well in my opinion Ricco, I think Clements may have solved the Left Back issue for now. I do think we need to bring in another qualified Centre Back and possibly some cover for Morsy with his yellow card count. I suppose we should entertain the idea of another striker as well? With Norwood's fate revealed, and the possibility of a Bonne recall we may need cover there also.

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Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:55 pm

rossi wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:41 pm
It was actually quite an entertaining game for a 0-0, and overall a good advert for the division.

Cannot understand PC saying we deserved to win it though - I thought it was a very fair result.

So - PC was quoted before the game as saying this game would serve as a benchmark for exactly where we are at the moment.
For us to be considered to be in a good place, I would have expected that we needed to win, given that we had home advantage.
We could only manage a draw though - not disastrous by any means but I would say that where we are in the league is about right and there is some way to go yet before we're good enough to make the play-off places. Whether or not we can do that this season remains to be seen.
Think I agree. A draw is still a point against top six but does not gain us any places on the top six. 7th 6th and 5th all have games in hand, should they win too, the gap goes from a respectable 4 points to more. Half way in the season is only 6 games away, we really need to be picking up points from the top clubs if we are to get into the playoffs. I agree the performances are much improved but the top 2 now looks like a mountain to climb and the playoffs could start to slip by Xmas if we don't take these points off the top teams now and over the festive period.
I'm off to Sunderland next Saturday, still think we have enough to get the 3 points but any less and towns run up the table will be for nothing. Can't rely on taking points from lower league teams, the top 6 will also be taking points off them too.

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Ricco wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:56 pm
What additions do you reckon Shed? Left back, centre back? I don't think I'd want extra players elsewhere to be honest.

Would be good to have a second Morsy for the 15 games a season he misses suspended!
Certainly think we need cover for Morsy as don’t think we have anybody else who is up to doing his role. As you say he will no doubt miss some games through suspension and also could pick up an injury.
With regards to Left back position I just don’t rate Penney defensively and Coulson seems to be missing a lot of games through illness and injury. Yes Clements did well yesterday but I feel it would be a big ask for the lad to become our regular LB this season. Therefore, if Coulson continues to miss games then this is another area I feel where we need to strengthen.
If Norwood and Jackson are off in January which I presume they are and Bonne did happen to return to QPR then I would think we would be looking at bringing in another striker.

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Post by saint jude » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:25 pm

Any team that can prevent us from scoring during 90 minutes can't be all bad. Never thought this would finish without score and would be unfair to comment on game as caught nothing of it although over 21,000 attendance is commendable. Read bits and pieces here and TWTD, seems the opposition took to "time wasting" during second period and some unsportsmanlike play at times but guess they just wanted to keep the point and make it back west unbeaten.

Seems we have trouble getting goals against opponents, enough to beat them at least and particularly at home. We got players that contribute often but lack the efficiency to really provide a safer advantage during games. If Oxford played spoiler tactics at times yesterday, disappointing for sure but if you look at it from their perspective they clearly had a gameplan and came away with something of an objective.

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Post by shabba » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:33 pm

I think has this been away we may have won, teams will take a point away to us but at home they will expect to win and will be a little more open - which suits us.

Long season ahead but I agree we aren’t likely to challenge the for the top 2 spots now.

Agree a CB is needed in Jan if possible and a LB but only if we can get someone who is top class. A lot depends on fitness - I.e we haven’t really seen a run for Coulsen yet and KVY could be an asset if he can stay fit and get a run.

Attacking-wise it would be hard to improve I think.
We can’t ditch new players who haven’t really had a run just to get new players And hope they hit the ground running - need to be patient.

Be good to be in the play off mid this year and then really attack the league next year if needed.

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Post by rossi » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:56 pm

Shed on tour wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:56 pm
Ricco wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:56 pm
What additions do you reckon Shed? Left back, centre back? I don't think I'd want extra players elsewhere to be honest.

Would be good to have a second Morsy for the 15 games a season he misses suspended!
Certainly think we need cover for Morsy as don’t think we have anybody else who is up to doing his role. As you say he will no doubt miss some games through suspension and also could pick up an injury.
With regards to Left back position I just don’t rate Penney defensively and Coulson seems to be missing a lot of games through illness and injury. Yes Clements did well yesterday but I feel it would be a big ask for the lad to become our regular LB this season. Therefore, if Coulson continues to miss games then this is another area I feel where we need to strengthen.
If Norwood and Jackson are off in January which I presume they are and Bonne did happen to return to QPR then I would think we would be looking at bringing in another striker.
Without trying to play devil's advocate in any way shape or form, I think the best addition we could make in January is... a new manager.

And as for Jackson - I've said repeatedly on this forum that he won't be going anywhere. Aside from nobody else wanting him, I know somebody who knows him really well, and according to him Jackson is perfectly happy just to collect his wages every week

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Post by Shed on tour » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:09 pm

rossi wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:56 pm
Shed on tour wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:56 pm
Ricco wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:56 pm
What additions do you reckon Shed? Left back, centre back? I don't think I'd want extra players elsewhere to be honest.

Would be good to have a second Morsy for the 15 games a season he misses suspended!
Certainly think we need cover for Morsy as don’t think we have anybody else who is up to doing his role. As you say he will no doubt miss some games through suspension and also could pick up an injury.
With regards to Left back position I just don’t rate Penney defensively and Coulson seems to be missing a lot of games through illness and injury. Yes Clements did well yesterday but I feel it would be a big ask for the lad to become our regular LB this season. Therefore, if Coulson continues to miss games then this is another area I feel where we need to strengthen.
If Norwood and Jackson are off in January which I presume they are and Bonne did happen to return to QPR then I would think we would be looking at bringing in another striker.
Without trying to play devil's advocate in any way shape or form, I think the best addition we could make in January is... a new manager.

And as for Jackson - I've said repeatedly on this forum that he won't be going anywhere. Aside from nobody else wanting him, I know somebody who knows him really well, and according to him Jackson is perfectly happy just to collect his wages every week
Is his contract up in the summer? If so I was wondering if the club will pay it up just to get him off the books.
As for the new manager comment :lol: I’m not at all convinced he is the man to take us up but can’t see the owners even considering replacing him until the end of the season. Even then I think they will stick with him for the start of next season unless we have a terrible 2nd this season.

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Post by hallamblue » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:28 pm

If Cook was sacked ( which I can’t see happening ), it wouldn’t be just him that leaves, but his whole back room staff . This kind of reshuffle right now, would complete lunacy .

Our American owners will demand a suitable response to their acquisition but they are, it seems, far more patient than some of the fans of this Club, thankfully. The last thing we need right now is a new manager. The remit is “to get out of this division as soon as possible “( Brett Johnson). Whilst desirable, he is not saying …” this season”. I’d say that’s unrealistic, given the wholesale changes that have happened at this Club.

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Post by number 9 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:38 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:28 pm
If Cook was sacked ( which I can’t see happening ), it wouldn’t be just him that leaves, but his whole back room staff . This kind of reshuffle right now, would complete lunacy .

Our American owners will demand a suitable response to their acquisition but they are, it seems, far more patient than some of the fans of this Club, thankfully. The last thing we need right now is a new manager. The remit is “to get out of this division as soon as possible “( Brett Johnson). Whilst desirable, he is not saying …” this season”. I’d say that’s unrealistic, given the wholesale changes that have happened at this Club.
I wouldn’t have agreed 3 weeks ago, but I do now. Cook or bust for this season!

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Post by hallamblue » Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:27 pm

Lol… well we’ve only lost 3 games over last 2months , so I’d say things are improving quite a bit. We’re not even at the half way stage in the season yet .

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