Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by marko69 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:35 pm

hallamblue wrote:
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I'm 100% he'll be pulling on a blue shirt again now.
But why would you want him here now?

He’s touting himself around clubs left right and centre after “ failing to agree terms with Ipswich “.

He was in the brink of signing for Stoke barring a work permit issue he’d be there now. Now he’s hightailed it to this Turkish club to sign on the dotted line . Town not even a fleeting memory for him, it seems. Now the Turkish deal has fallen through …. He’ll “consider us” will he? Sorry, but my response would Foxtrot Oscar…
Definitely with Balls on this one in the sense that I certainly "WANTED" him back at Ipswich simply because...... (and I think maybe some of you are overlooking this)......, he may be useful in this new and trendy Ipswich we are all going to see 22/23 (Thats on you KMcK). How many match reports from here and from the press last season whereby it was wall to wall headless chickens Cook era, and maybe 30-40% of KMcK's games wasn't any better. Celina, like your Riordans & Cummings & Boyle operate when the team is firing. YES......, WE KNOW..... its not all about one player......, but when the player CLEARLY has talent, people need to up their f**king game and pull their finger out their arse.

BUT........, huge but........., the Stoke, Preston, 2 headless chicken Turkey clubs etc etc etc say to me........, its over now. You'll NOT be welcomed at PR by the majority and no one wants that.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by marko69 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:43 pm

hallamblue wrote:
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Pigott has scored two goals for Portsmouth tonight.
I think that’s as many as he scored for us in 22 appearances last season. Maybe he’s a better fit at Pompey.
I think he's a good player tbh . He , as you say, just didnt "fit" here. I can see him scoring a load of goals for them, which is why I was saying we might regret giving him for free to a promotion rival!
Got to hope that he does thrive at Pompey because he's clearly had the "Daryl Murphy effect" at Wimbledon. Murphy was essentially a dire striker. 110 games for Sunderland, 14 goals......, Murphy only really flourished at Ipswich for whatever reason. Pigott is the same. His stats are poor. Only Wimbledon is sort of worthy for comment.
22 games and 2 goals for Ipswich suggests that it may not happen. He did have chances in this KMcK era when things were picking up, seem to remember a couple games where he fluffed many chances.
Hopefully he's world class at the gorgeous Fratton Park and Ipswich can earn some cash from him.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by Bluemike » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:53 pm

It's never been about the talent with Celina Marko, its about the work ethic, defensive duties and consistency, sadly lacking in all of them.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by hallamblue » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:26 pm

marko69 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:43 pm
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I think that’s as many as he scored for us in 22 appearances last season. Maybe he’s a better fit at Pompey.
I think he's a good player tbh . He , as you say, just didnt "fit" here. I can see him scoring a load of goals for them, which is why I was saying we might regret giving him for free to a promotion rival!
Got to hope that he does thrive at Pompey because he's clearly had the "Daryl Murphy effect" at Wimbledon. Murphy was essentially a dire striker. 110 games for Sunderland, 14 goals......, Murphy only really flourished at Ipswich for whatever reason. Pigott is the same. His stats are poor. Only Wimbledon is sort of worthy for comment.
22 games and 2 goals for Ipswich suggests that it may not happen. He did have chances in this KMcK era when things were picking up, seem to remember a couple games where he fluffed many chances.
Hopefully he's world class at the gorgeous Fratton Park and Ipswich can earn some cash from him.
Daryl Murphy essentially had one good season for us , when he was scoring like a striker should be scoring. He got his swan song move to Sunderland on the back of that one good season too. In all his career he rarely hit double figures which, as I’ve said, for a striker, isn’t very good. I’ve looked at Piggott scoring history too. He seems to be very hit and miss. A good season followed by a poor one, followed by a good one. Seems we got him in his lull season lol ! But his touch and ability to bring others into the game is supposedly very good. We just never utilised it. It is was it is , and I doubt he’ll play for us again despite whatever noises come out of the club….

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by hallamblue » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:31 pm

When does the transfer window close please?

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by Bluemike » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:06 pm

Murphy had a similar thing to Sears though, when he first came here he was played wide much of the time.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by shabba » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:38 pm

hallamblue wrote:
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When does the transfer window close please?
1st September I believe

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:52 pm

Cheers 👍 thanks for that. So a good while to go then really .

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by shabba » Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:31 pm

Bakinson got to Shef weds, I’m ok with that as I think ball will be an upgrade and more suited to us.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by number 9 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:15 am

shabba wrote:
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Bakinson got to Shef weds, I’m ok with that as I think ball will be an upgrade and more suited to us.
I think if KM wanted Bakinson or Celina for that matter we would have gotten them both. This is KMs team now.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by shabba » Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:58 am

Agree.

I still wouldn’t be surprised if Celina rucked up on deadline day - if we’d managed to clear some players out and it was a fairly cheap cost loan or such.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by Bluemike » Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:20 am

I hope another striker is arriving any day soon or we will be short of firepower, Three strikers just isn't sufficient.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by Kerry Blue » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:29 am

Taken from another site just hope he is right.

It could be the day for Hirst. The journo who called the Pigott/Harness deal believes Hirst is a real possibility for us now.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:05 am

Would be the icing on the cake and considering Championship clubs are snuffing around quite a coup.

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Post by hallamblue » Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:38 pm

Bluemike wrote:
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I hope another striker is arriving any day soon or we will be short of firepower, Three strikers just isn't sufficient.
Don’t worry Mike , Kieran’s at the wheel 👍

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Post by rossi » Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:06 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:38 pm
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I hope another striker is arriving any day soon or we will be short of firepower, Three strikers just isn't sufficient.
Don’t worry Mike , Kieran’s at the wheel 👍
I read today that KM will not have a first choice team but wants to have 2 players for every position so that he can use rotation for whatver reason. Given that his preference is to play just one up front, we already have more than the quota he wants (albeit that they are lightweight as Mike suggests), so I'm far from convinced we can expect to see another striker coming at all.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by hallamblue » Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:56 pm

I think that we will be signing Hirst and the Leeds LB …. Plus one other , although I’m not sure what position … McKenna has stated in a recent interview that 3-4 more were targeted . Which must surely mean some are on there way out to make the space ?

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Post by number 9 » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:55 pm

I’m a big fan of KM and I’ve supported his decisions while a few others have questioned his actions. I read the article on KM explaining about there’s no magic recipe and players will be rotated accordingly. Not sure I agree with that philosophy for a league one squad. I believe you always start your strongest players and sub when adjustments are needed. Let’s not over think this KM, we’re not ManU with an abundance of talent.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:07 am

Some players came on board when wasn't quite taking notice. We have some new forwards in Tyreece Jules and Freddy Ladapo, maybe behind the times in keeping up with all and any team activities and players brought in. Defensive names like Ball and Leigh we have now, really got to keep up to speed with what's going on at the club but excuses can be made.

Kind of surprised Vaclav Hladky and Walton remain with us. The former seemed surplus at times last season and didn't feature much while Walton was one of the players of the season and easily one of the very best outside of the top two divisions, stands to reason some higher league club would show an interest. Guess goalkeepers are hard to bring in or we just decided to stick with what we got.

Looking at the team as a whole and with changes made, a lot will depend on how the new kids fit in and the time it takes to adjust to a new club and players around them. It woud be churlish to dismiss the players before a ball has been touched ahead of a new season particularly the new additions but some will wonder quite what to expect in the months ahead. A good start will be imperative but some will question if what we got can accomplish it or meet certain demands and expectation.

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Post by BlueBalls » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:23 am

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I’m a big fan of KM and I’ve supported his decisions while a few others have questioned his actions. I read the article on KM explaining about there’s no magic recipe and players will be rotated accordingly. Not sure I agree with that philosophy for a league one squad. I believe you always start your strongest players and sub when adjustments are needed. Let’s not over think this KM, we’re not ManU with an abundance of talent.
I think KM's point is the strongest 11 for one match isn't necessarily the strongest 11 for the next match. Hence rotation to make it the strongest 11 again....... almost like a bespoke 11 depending on who we are playing.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:33 am

Yep, that's how I take it too BB. Flexibility being the key.

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Post by number 9 » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:40 am

I hope you are both right. I'm confident KM knows what he's doing, I just think it's important to play your best players.

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Post by rossi » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:14 pm

BlueBalls wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:23 am
number 9 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:55 pm
I’m a big fan of KM and I’ve supported his decisions while a few others have questioned his actions. I read the article on KM explaining about there’s no magic recipe and players will be rotated accordingly. Not sure I agree with that philosophy for a league one squad. I believe you always start your strongest players and sub when adjustments are needed. Let’s not over think this KM, we’re not ManU with an abundance of talent.
I think KM's point is the strongest 11 for one match isn't necessarily the strongest 11 for the next match. Hence rotation to make it the strongest 11 again....... almost like a bespoke 11 depending on who we are playing.
I think that approach would only really work if you knew 100% the team your opponents were going to field

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by shabba » Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:21 pm

More the style of the team, as you know certain teams will have a certain approach to games and we will select accordingly. I suspect ball and evans will be the ones roaring the most depending on opposition.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:32 pm

I would like to think KM is saying " sod what other teams do, let them worry about us "

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Post by shabba » Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:54 am

In some ways that is true, ie he is thinking less about their threats but rather about how they will try and stop us - and how to counter that.

We know at home teams are coming to sit 11 behind the ball for example, so it’ll be how he adjusts personnel to help break those teams down. Where as away against better teams I suspect we will adjust differently, nothing huge but small tweak of formation and players.

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by hallamblue » Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:17 am

Bluemike wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:33 am
Yep, that's how I take it too BB. Flexibility being the key.
I agree with you both in principle , but just hope there’s a core of the team making regular appearances each week otherwise there’ll be too much chopping and changing and thereby a lack of continuity. It’s fine lines tbh. Previous managers fell into that trap, Keane changed the team every week, Lambert rotated every week . There was never a “ team”, just an 11 put out every week. Here’s hoping KMcK gets it right 👍

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Post by shabba » Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:34 am

There is definitely a core, most of the back line is set, morsey is a given etc

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Re: Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

Post by Charnwood » Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:39 am

In my opinion the core of a team is normally made up along a spine. Eg: goalkeeper, two central defenders, one or two midfielders, a playmaker and a striker. The core of a team cannot possibly stretch across the pitch, that would be unbalanced. If I’m honest we probably have the makings of a core, it would be interesting if we could agree who the players might be. I’m happy to start with Walton, Woolfenden. Morsy and Lapado (who is a guess as I’ve never seen him play ). Over to you guys who may have seen the new signings in action.

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Post by AzzurroMark » Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:12 am

Charnwood wrote:
Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:39 am
In my opinion the core of a team is normally made up along a spine. Eg: goalkeeper, two central defenders, one or two midfielders, a playmaker and a striker. The core of a team cannot possibly stretch across the pitch, that would be unbalanced. If I’m honest we probably have the makings of a core, it would be interesting if we could agree who the players might be. I’m happy to start with Walton, Woolfenden. Morsy and Lapado (who is a guess as I’ve never seen him play ). Over to you guys who may have seen the new signings in action.
Certainly wouldn't disagree with those . I would keep (if going with a back three) Walton, Donacien, Wolfie, Edmundsen as a defensive core. Certainly Morsy is nailed on (he seems to be really getting in the thick of it, attacking wise, in the friendlies! Ladapo up front too. That is 6 of a starting 11.
Certainly would be looking at Burns, Chaplin and Harness to be very regular starters, leaving 2 other places to be fought for and therefore adaptable to the type of team we are likely to play. With the number of subs allowed this season, we should be able to name a very strong bench, players who can come on and up the tempo if needed

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