Rumors' & Transfers - Summer 2022

[shabba]

All depends on how brave the manager is going to be, and how much belief he has in his young players.

Looking at what we have - and assuming KM will stick with a back 3 - Woolfenden is nailed on for a place.
So that leaves Edmundson and Burgess to take the other 2 slots? I think that Baggot and Ndaba are better options than both of these, so I'm with Mike on this one, I would play Baggot Ndaba and Woolfenden as my first choice back 3

Well if we go with the back 3 like last season- its Donacien (RCB), Woolf (CCB) and a LCB. And that will very likely be Edmundson. Ndaba and Baggott aren't going to get ahead of Edmundson if he's fit. And Burgess is likely to be the next in line.

Exactly this!

You cannot take out JD, he and Burns work so well together and the way he covers that right side is perfect.

Edmudson is the one you would say has competition, and I agree Burges is 'in the way' of others in that sense. I personally feel he is decent enough for league one so would keep him and loan out Baggott as I really do feel he needs proper game time in a battling side.

Then we can test out Ndaba against the other defenders and see if he is any better etc, if not he can move on next season and bring in Baggott for his chance to do the same.

[rossi]

All depends on how brave the manager is going to be, and how much belief he has in his young players.

Looking at what we have - and assuming KM will stick with a back 3 - Woolfenden is nailed on for a place.
So that leaves Edmundson and Burgess to take the other 2 slots? I think that Baggot and Ndaba are better options than both of these, so I'm with Mike on this one, I would play Baggot Ndaba and Woolfenden as my first choice back 3

Well if we go with the back 3 like last season- its Donacien (RCB), Woolf (CCB) and a LCB. And that will very likely be Edmundson. Ndaba and Baggott aren't going to get ahead of Edmundson if he's fit. And Burgess is likely to be the next in line.

Exactly this!

You cannot take out JD, he and Burns work so well together and the way he covers that right side is perfect.

Edmudson is the one you would say has competition, and I agree Burges is 'in the way' of others in that sense. I personally feel he is decent enough for league one so would keep him and loan out Baggott as I really do feel he needs proper game time in a battling side.

Then we can test out Ndaba against the other defenders and see if he is any better etc, if not he can move on next season and bring in Baggott for his chance to do the same.

Who said anything about leaving JD out?
I certainly didn't.
It's just that I think he'd be better employed as a proper wing back.

[Bluemike]

Not trying to come across difficult, but what have we actually seen? 2 games - Rotherham and charlton? Maybe some have seen a lot of u23 games?

I haven’t seen Ndaba at all to be fair though. Just would feel right to give him the chance given he has earnt it via such a good loan, provides a pathway and Baggot has time on his side to go get in 30-40 games and gain that experience of playing weekly fighting for points, then come back still at a young age and push for a place

I'm with you there. Don't understand the clamour to get Baggott into the side. It's only 2 games. He looked assured enough on the ball, but he still is raw in the defensive side. An experienced, tough striker would have fun with him and I thought in the 2 games he was lacking a bit with the defensive part of his game, although he was decent enough. Get him a season loan. It brought on Woolf and Ndaba, so why not him? And LCB is one area we're really strong in depth.How is he going to leap-frog Edmundson, Burgess and Ndaba by virtue of 2 dead-rubber games? We've still got the Evans-era syndrome of wanting to fill the side with academy players. One for the future with a loan out behind him, for me.

In one of those games Baggott was described as the best player on the pitch by the so called commentators and experts, not sure he was lacking in much at all that day.

[shabba]

Well if we go with the back 3 like last season- its Donacien (RCB), Woolf (CCB) and a LCB. And that will very likely be Edmundson. Ndaba and Baggott aren't going to get ahead of Edmundson if he's fit. And Burgess is likely to be the next in line.

Exactly this!

You cannot take out JD, he and Burns work so well together and the way he covers that right side is perfect.

Edmudson is the one you would say has competition, and I agree Burges is 'in the way' of others in that sense. I personally feel he is decent enough for league one so would keep him and loan out Baggott as I really do feel he needs proper game time in a battling side.

Then we can test out Ndaba against the other defenders and see if he is any better etc, if not he can move on next season and bring in Baggott for his chance to do the same.

Who said anything about leaving JD out?
I certainly didn't.
It's just that I think he'd be better employed as a proper wing back.

So you'd play JD as RWB? Move Burns somewhere else? KM won't do that as I think Burns works great for his formation etc.

[rossi]

Exactly this!

You cannot take out JD, he and Burns work so well together and the way he covers that right side is perfect.

Edmudson is the one you would say has competition, and I agree Burges is 'in the way' of others in that sense. I personally feel he is decent enough for league one so would keep him and loan out Baggott as I really do feel he needs proper game time in a battling side.

Then we can test out Ndaba against the other defenders and see if he is any better etc, if not he can move on next season and bring in Baggott for his chance to do the same.

Who said anything about leaving JD out?
I certainly didn't.
It's just that I think he'd be better employed as a proper wing back.

So you'd play JD as RWB? Move Burns somewhere else? KM won't do that as I think Burns works great for his formation etc.

Indeed I would - he can defend, dribble, run, and is a good crosser of the ball, so meets my criteria for a good wing back.

I have always favoured 3-5-2, so if I was to play Burns it would never be as wing back (he's not a wing back, he cant defend and his crossing is woeful) it would be inside the right wing back leaving him to do what he's best at (running at players and laying off the ball for the strikers) - in that position he would still be able to carry on his good understanding with JD

[number 9]

Burns was as our top goal scorer I believe, so I wouldn’t change his position or role. As far as passing/moving the ball forward, I just think that’s the goal of every manager. First & foremost as someone else said, you have to keep possession which may require a backwards or sideways pass. I do think the slow, building attack is over done and predictable unless you have world class players who can do something special. I do miss the direct attack football of bygone years, and I believe a combination of tactics is the best thing going forward.

[rossi]

Burns was as our top goal scorer I believe, so I wouldn’t change his position or role. As far as passing/moving the ball forward, I just think that’s the goal of every manager. First & foremost as someone else said, you have to keep possession which may require a backwards or sideways pass. I do think the slow, building attack is over done and predictable unless you have world class players who can do something special. I do miss the direct attack football of bygone years, and I believe a combination of tactics is the best thing going forward.

so it's official then - Rossi is an old fart living in the past

[Tangfastic]

Not trying to come across difficult, but what have we actually seen? 2 games - Rotherham and charlton? Maybe some have seen a lot of u23 games?

I haven’t seen Ndaba at all to be fair though. Just would feel right to give him the chance given he has earnt it via such a good loan, provides a pathway and Baggot has time on his side to go get in 30-40 games and gain that experience of playing weekly fighting for points, then come back still at a young age and push for a place

I'm with you there. Don't understand the clamour to get Baggott into the side. It's only 2 games. He looked assured enough on the ball, but he still is raw in the defensive side. An experienced, tough striker would have fun with him and I thought in the 2 games he was lacking a bit with the defensive part of his game, although he was decent enough. Get him a season loan. It brought on Woolf and Ndaba, so why not him? And LCB is one area we're really strong in depth.How is he going to leap-frog Edmundson, Burgess and Ndaba by virtue of 2 dead-rubber games? We've still got the Evans-era syndrome of wanting to fill the side with academy players. One for the future with a loan out behind him, for me.

In one of those games Baggott was described as the best player on the pitch by the so called commentators and experts, not sure he was lacking in much at all that day.

I'm not knocking the lad, but as a CB he's got a lot to learn. I just thought he wasn't as dominant as a 6ft 4 CB should be- but that's not surprising as he needs to strengthen up and learn the dark arts. He's only 19 and is not used to playing mens football. CB''s usually reach their peak in their late twenties/early thirties so he's got plenty of time. Looked very composed on the ball, but got caught out a couple of times defensively. But then Edmundson and Burgess have got errors in them.
If we were desperate for a LCB then can see him being pushed, but LCB is one area we've got plenty of depth. Likely he won't make the bench if both Edmundson and Burgess are fit, so it would be better if he could get a good loan rather than more 23's football.

[hallamblue]

Burns was as our top goal scorer I believe, so I wouldn’t change his position or role. As far as passing/moving the ball forward, I just think that’s the goal of every manager. First & foremost as someone else said, you have to keep possession which may require a backwards or sideways pass. I do think the slow, building attack is over done and predictable unless you have world class players who can do something special. I do miss the direct attack football of bygone years, and I believe a combination of tactics is the best thing going forward.

so it's official then - Rossi is an old fart living in the past

Ha ha, well WE all knew that anyway

[shabba]

As usual fully agree with Tang.

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... el-mizouni

As for El Miz, can’t see him making it here now so probably it needs to move on. Probably one of those transfer where you’d almost let him go for free but with a decent sell on. Doubt many clubs have money for transfer fees in this league and below.

Good luck to him and he could probably become a decent enough player at this level with regular game time.

[Bluemike]

I'm with you there. Don't understand the clamour to get Baggott into the side. It's only 2 games. He looked assured enough on the ball, but he still is raw in the defensive side. An experienced, tough striker would have fun with him and I thought in the 2 games he was lacking a bit with the defensive part of his game, although he was decent enough. Get him a season loan. It brought on Woolf and Ndaba, so why not him? And LCB is one area we're really strong in depth.How is he going to leap-frog Edmundson, Burgess and Ndaba by virtue of 2 dead-rubber games? We've still got the Evans-era syndrome of wanting to fill the side with academy players. One for the future with a loan out behind him, for me.

In one of those games Baggott was described as the best player on the pitch by the so called commentators and experts, not sure he was lacking in much at all that day.

I'm not knocking the lad, but as a CB he's got a lot to learn. I just thought he wasn't as dominant as a 6ft 4 CB should be- but that's not surprising as he needs to strengthen up and learn the dark arts. He's only 19 and is not used to playing mens football. CB''s usually reach their peak in their late twenties/early thirties so he's got plenty of time. Looked very composed on the ball, but got caught out a couple of times defensively. But then Edmundson and Burgess have got errors in them.
If we were desperate for a LCB then can see him being pushed, but LCB is one area we've got plenty of depth. Likely he won't make the bench if both Edmundson and Burgess are fit, so it would be better if he could get a good loan rather than more 23's football.

No I know you aren't knocking him and I agree he has much to learn, I just can't help but feel he'd been better off here and benefiting from some occasional game time which given our injury record he would surely get, I accept players often benefit from a stint on loan but with Baggott I genuinely believe he would be capable of stepping in, I don't see much in Burgess to be honest, would happily see him move on.

[shabba]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... 7jqr1tws19

Clements off to work with Paul Cook again, fair play and wish him well.

Odd place to do the photo….

[Kerry Blue]

Ipswich Town are understood to be closing in on the signing of left-back Greg Leigh.

The 27-year-old was recently released by Morecambe after starting 33 games for them in League One last season.


Primarily a left-back, he also played a handful of games at right-back, left wing-back and left midfield for the Shrimps.

Leigh came through the youth ranks at Manchester City. After a loan spell with Crewe, he moved to Bradford and then Bury, racking up 130 appearances in League One.

A switch to Dutch top-flight side NAC Breda followed and, following their relegation, he joined Scottish side Aberdeen on loan with that move later becoming permanent.
Last summer he signed for Morecambe on a one-year deal.

Born in Sale, Leigh represented England at Under-19 level before choosing to represent Jamaica. He has been capped seven time by the Reggae Boyz, featuring in World Cup qualifiers against the likes of Mexico, Costa Rica and the USA last season.
Town's left side needed additions following the expiration of Dominic Thompson's loan spell from Brentford and the release of homegrown duo Bailey Clements and Myles Kenlock. That left Matt Penney as the only senior left-sided option.

It's understood that Blues boss Kieran McKenna will look to strengthen further in this position.

KMc looking to strengthen further in this position so are Penny's days numbered?, I'm not excited about this at all.

[K L Blue]

Linked to a leftback

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-to ... ng-9049170

I don't know much about him.

[Dazzz67]

Not enthralled by the latest link but if KM says he is ok then happy to see him here, thats if the link is genuine, suspect it is. A bit of competition for Penney (who I think is ok) has to be better than the loan we had in, Thompson. It is a position that needs sorting, be interesting to see if Edwards is moved on and replaced on the lhs too.

[Bluemike]

Agreed, can only be better than Thompson, while I'm not jumping up and down in KM I trust, add to that the article says KM will probably be looking to strengthen the LB area further so this Leigh fella could be seen purely as back up, not sure where this leaves Matt Penney though.

[shabba]

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... back-leigh

Odd one this

[shabba]

Sorry posted the link before seeing the comments earlier.

I also find the is strange, I was expecting 3 top signings to go straight in as strong first choices. We need a top LWB, striker and number 10. You could just about make a case for Ladapo as the striker but this guy as a top league one LWB seems hopeful?

Unless as stated Penny goes and this guy is backup but who would be on for Penny and pay a fee etc?

I think Ball is a great singing by the way, just meant the three more we need i was hoping would be really players we could get excited about, either because they are very promising young talents or they are players proven at this level or above.

[rossi]

Sorry posted the link before seeing the comments earlier.

I also find the is strange, I was expecting 3 top signings to go straight in as strong first choices. We need a top LWB, striker and number 10. You could just about make a case for Ladapo as the striker but this guy as a top league one LWB seems hopeful?

Unless as stated Penny goes and this guy is backup but who would be on for Penny and pay a fee etc?

I think Ball is a great singing by the way, just meant the three more we need i was hoping would be really players we could get excited about, either because they are very promising young talents or they are players proven at this level or above.

TBH, I'm underwhelmed by all 3 signings thus far - but it's probably a good indicator of where we are as a club right now.
I wasn't expecting many signings, but KM had said that he wanted to get the bulk of the squad sorted by the time the pre-season training started which is today. It hasn't escaped my notice that all 3 signings so far have been freebies, but there again we might have to accept that players worth a transfer fee might not want to come here.

[Denny61]

Maybe this American pot of gold isn't as full as we thought
We must remember that it's out of a pension fund that funds are being used and therefore its peoples life pensions and retirement nest eggs that is being invested .so i think that the Investors have told mckenna that no more funds to be used on buying players ..only look around and shore up certain positions with players who on low wages and free transfer.may jst do the job for us in league one.

[Kerry Blue]

Greg Leigh confirmed signing a two year deal.

[shabba]

I really don’t think that is the case, what we are spending now is small fry for what the long term goal is (to sell the club for a decent sum once it’s an established premier league side). Being tight now and remaining in league 1 will not be wise financially.

Players have gone so wages are available.

I’m not worried about lack of fee’s as I feel there is a shift to player power now where many are running down contracts in order to get moves/decent signing on fees, you could put a very Prem solid side together purely based on free agents this summer. (Obv wages would be high, but if you were a prem team etc).

It’s more the fact this LWB isn’t someone who was a star player for a club at our level, like burns was, or perhaps a player who had played at a level above for a good period of time. Fair enough I don’t know much about him but maybe that also says a lot.

[shabba]

http://shrimpsvoices.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... f362338ebf

Thoughts of morcombe fans

[Bluemike]

The fact we haven't spent a penny means nothing, nor would it cast doubts on the owners spending ability, its just a fact that players become free agents and you can get them for nothing, why waste money if you don't have to ? There doesn't always have to be a conspiracy theory although with our fans there usually is. I think what they have invested in this club already is remarkable.

[number 9]

I do think the budget will be a bit tighter than last season. The US financial institutions are predicting a significant recession and interest rates were recently raised to levels not seen since 2008. The stock market is taking a big hit, and let’s face it a strong market sustains retirement funds and obviously a week market shrinks the bottom line.

[shabba]

Good points! Who’d have thought printing trillions of dollars would f**k up the economy

[MasseyFerguson]

I do think the budget will be a bit tighter than last season. The US financial institutions are predicting a significant recession and interest rates were recently raised to levels not seen since 2008. The stock market is taking a big hit, and let’s face it a strong market sustains retirement funds and obviously a week market shrinks the bottom line.

100%. Our scope for significantly strengthening the squad this season is a lot less now than we would have liked. This will be a real test of KMcK's ability to identify players with the necessary attributes to get us out of this league, while working with a restricted budget. I have faith in him, but it will not be easy.

[Tangfastic]

Too early to tell about these players. I'm thinking and hoping that's it's got nothing to do with a limited budget and everything to do with just finding the right kind of player to make it all work. We were out-muscled too often, so maybe these players we've brought In fit better in L1. No point in bringing in players like Celina if they can't handle the physicality in this division.
Did see a report (EADT?) that we're still looking for a LWB - so, if that's true, Penney might be moved on.
Would have thought it's top priority to get us out of this league so i would think the owners are still prepared to stick money in to get us out of the league.

[Bluemike]

Agreed, I am not the biggest Celina fan but I'm wondering if we are steadying ourselves for a decent bid for him, on his day brilliant, on 300 other days poor.

[Charnwood]

Although McKenna seems to prefer lining up with a lone striker supported by two attacking midfield players, I don’t really fancy kicking off the new season with just Kayden Jackson, Joe Pigott and the new signing Freddie Ladapo as our only striker options. With the new 5 subs rule coming into play next season there will be great opportunities to change formations throughout the game but with these three as our only strikers our options will be limited especially if one or more get injured. Surely after the departures of Macauley Bonne and James Norwood we need at least one more decent striker joining the squad. or have I missed something ?