Very bad news for Derby County.

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Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Charnwood » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:12 pm

US businessman Chris Kirchner has failed to meet a deadline to prove he has the funds to complete the takeover of Derby County,

I’ve no idea what happens next for this once great football club which may or may not be one of our League 1 opponents next season.

I’m not sure exactly what happens if Derby go bust and are unable to continue operating next season ?

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by marko69 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:44 pm

FOREST go to EPL
DERBY go to burning 'ell !

Martyn Waghorns fault.

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Blue Wilf » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:54 pm

Once great is correct, Charny. I have little sympathy as they have been run into the ground by poor management and overspending. Just shows that money does not buy you happiness...

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by mendipblue » Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:14 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:12 pm
US businessman Chris Kirchner has failed to meet a deadline to prove he has the funds to complete the takeover of Derby County,

I’ve no idea what happens next for this once great football club which may or may not be one of our League 1 opponents next season.

I’m not sure exactly what happens if Derby go bust and are unable to continue operating next season ?
If I'm honest I don't care. Tried to buy promotion, back fired, even Rooney's deal was dodgy. Just 44 games next season then.....hopefully :oops:

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by marko69 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:25 pm

Yes, agree on the Rooney being their manager “farce”.
Very well documented financial “bottom falling out of their monetary arse” situation……. and they hire £65K a week pubic hair head Rooney?
Made no sense.

Hand on heart, DO NOT want any football club dying, but if it takes one big club like Derby County to “properly” die to get the f**king point across that you CANNOT SPEND WHAT YOU DO NOT HAVE…… then so be it. About fkn time.

Properly in inverted commas to denote the exact meaning of the word dying…….. ie, liquidated. Like Glasgow Rangers FC. Defunct. NO MORE.

Sevco Derby?

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Bluemike » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:26 pm

I don't believe a club of that size will ever go bust, some fool will bail

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by marko69 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:29 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:26 pm
I don't believe a club of that size will ever go bust, some fool will bail
Yep, that is the truth……. And that is the problem.

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by JohnnyB » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:35 pm

They currently have just five first team players on their books, does not include goalkeepers or defenders.

And yet oddschecker puts them as third favourite for the league one title - guess who’s the favourite?

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by marko69 » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:39 pm

JohnnyB wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:35 pm
- guess who’s the favourite?
Forest Green Rovers?

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Post by JohnnyB » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:58 am

marko69 wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:39 pm
JohnnyB wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:35 pm
- guess who’s the favourite?
Forest Green Rovers?
Ha ha well they’ve got a chance, same as all the teams. Love the pre-season when anything can happen and dreams remained unsullied.

Talking of FGR, looks like the away day will be interesting. They are the world’s first eco-sustainable football club. The squad eat a vegan diet and the stadium is powered by solar panels. Even the pies are vegan!

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Charnwood » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:04 am

JohnnyB wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:35 pm
They currently have just five first team players on their books, does not include goalkeepers or defenders.

And yet oddschecker puts them as third favourite for the league one title - guess who’s the favourite?

I suspect it’s us or Sheffield Wednesday ?

I think this seasons Play Off runners up Wycombe will fade away, but one thing for sure automatic promotion won’t come easy and I expect next season will be equally as competitive and as difficult as the last.

I just hope and pray next season will be our last at this level. 🤞

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by JohnnyB » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:24 am

Charnwood wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:04 am
JohnnyB wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:35 pm
They currently have just five first team players on their books, does not include goalkeepers or defenders.

And yet oddschecker puts them as third favourite for the league one title - guess who’s the favourite?

I suspect it’s us or Sheffield Wednesday ?

I think this seasons Play Off runners up Wycombe will fade away, but one thing for sure automatic promotion won’t come easy and I expect next season will be equally as competitive and as difficult as the last.

I just hope and pray next season will be our last at this level. 🤞
Yeah us atm - probably more a curse than a blessing really. But there you go: 11/2 if you fancy a flutter…

I think McK will have or is studying every one of our opponents and the way they play home and away and devising a game plan for each. I expect him to succeed - he’ll have the players, the fans and the backing. But we’ve been here before of course…

The two new signings being added height and physicality - something we’ve lacked against tough sides like Rotherham and stubborn sides like Cambridge. He’s obviously seen a weakness and looked to fix it. Now for a set piece specialist (dare we hope for Twine) and a left-sided wingback to match Burns…

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:48 am

I think the Twine thing was some tit making stuff up on Twitter tbh.

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Post by JohnnyB » Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:02 am

Bluemike wrote:
Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:48 am
I think the Twine thing was some tit making stuff up on Twitter tbh.
I’d be surprised if you’re wrong. Twine could go championship or maybe higher. But you never know…

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by marko69 » Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:06 pm

Wear two pairs of shin pads @ FGR……. Those players will be angry…….. vegan pies! Jaysus H 🤦‍♂️

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by saint jude » Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:17 pm

don't know who this Twine kid is but guess someone's just stringing us along.

Keeping it short there's little to no chance Derby will cease to exist, seen the scenario a dozen times before : a substantial or recognized team in peril, lo and behold in no time at all it's all fine and dandy and carry on as you were.

Some loon or collection of, put as down as promotion favorites once again ? Have these "individuals" ever been to Portman Road or taken in a Town game ? These odds or envisions are absurd, whether you're inclined to agree or disagree that idea is going to hit way off the mark. Puts additional pressure on the squad in trying to meet a target they''re unlikely to achieve.

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Post by hallamblue » Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:36 pm

marko69 wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:44 pm
FOREST go to EPL
DERBY go to burning 'ell !

Martyn Waghorns fault.
He’s at Coventry marko x

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Bluemike » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:14 pm

Rooneys quit

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Post by hallamblue » Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:18 pm

The question is why ?


Some local businessman has apparently bought the stadium and made a loan to the club ( admittedly I’ve seen that on twtd ) but there might be something in it !

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Bluemike » Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:16 pm

Yep, I believe that is the case, Rooney is saying they need an injection of fresh blood.

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by shabba » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:17 am

Suspect he feels his reputation is good after the job he did last year and without a decent squad they will struggle and that won’t be good for his career. He can aim higher now than fighting in league one

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Bluemike » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:29 am

I can see them struggling big time again this season

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Charnwood » Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:29 am

To be fair to him I thought Rooney did a pretty decent job there under difficult circumstances. I can definitely see him getting another managerial opportunity whilst the future of Derby County still looks far from rosy which is a shame given their fabulous facilities at Pride Park.

Just like those of us at Town who experienced the Bobby Robson era and enjoyed the barmy nights at Portman Road when the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona & Inter Milan all came to town and couldn’t beat us. Derby had the Brian Clough years at the Baseball Ground and will be hurting like hell finding themselves in League One through no fault of the fans, simply poor management.

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by LizinSpain » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:49 am

marko69 wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:25 pm
Yes, agree on the Rooney being their manager “farce”.
Very well documented financial “bottom falling out of their monetary arse” situation……. and they hire £65K a week pubic hair head Rooney?
Made no sense.

Hand on heart, DO NOT want any football club dying, but if it takes one big club like Derby County to “properly” die to get the f**king point across that you CANNOT SPEND WHAT YOU DO NOT HAVE…… then so be it. About fkn time.

Properly in inverted commas to denote the exact meaning of the word dying…….. ie, liquidated. Like Glasgow Rangers FC. Defunct. NO MORE.

Sevco Derby?

Absolutely right. Until a "big" club goes under nothing will ever be done to bring football back to financial reality. Everyone deserves to make a living but the money paid to players/managers is beyond ridiculous nowadays. Transfer fees are just plain stupid. Even when we get back to the promised land I really hope we keep some semblance of sanity!

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Re: Very bad news for Derby County.

Post by Charnwood » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:09 pm

The only way a football club will go bust is when the FA & UEFA introduce strict financial controls over acceptable levels of debt.

Over the past two seasons only four Premier League clubs have actually made a profit and they are Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle United & Norwich City, and Chelsea only because Abramovich doesn’t charge interest on their huge debt. The rest all run at a loss stacking up huge levels of debt with previously mentioned Chelsea topping the pile at $1.8bn followed by Spurs $838m, Manchester United €562m and Brighton & Hove at $340m.

Unless the Premier League or EFL introduce some controls on clubs acceptable levels of debt nothing is going to change especially now some of the top clubs are foreign state owned and don’t rely on traditional bank borrowing.

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