League 1 - Ipswich Town vs Barnsley FC Preview & Matchday Thread

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Can we keep the great start going?

Ipswich Win
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Barnsley Win
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Draw
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Post by Charnwood » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:38 pm

I didn’t see much wrong with the disallowed goal which looked like a 50:50 tussle.

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Post by Charnwood » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:40 pm

We do look poor defending set pieces but that led from some very suspect refereeing decisions.

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Post by Charnwood » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:43 pm

Liverpool 8-0 up now, please just 2 more ⚽️⚽️

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Post by JohnnyB » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:44 pm

Liverpool need 1 more to take that all-time record win

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Post by Charnwood » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:46 pm

JohnnyB wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:44 pm
Liverpool need 1 more to take that all-time record win
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Post by Charnwood » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:58 pm

Surely we’ll get one more chance.

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Post by BLUEBLOOD » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:02 pm

2-2 FT

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Post by Charnwood » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:03 pm

We’ve had the chances but still not the 3rd goal. Great effort from KVY but great save to match and another from Aluko. 2-2 draw it is.

Just a couple of poor defending situations and it’s two points dropped, but I still think Marcus Harness’s goal should have stood, anywhere else on the pitch the game would have carried on without a whistle being blown.

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Post by Steve » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:06 pm

Sloppy goals we conceded. Training ground to sort them out but why oh why can referees not be consistent even during the game?

Harness disallowed goal for me was a shocker from the ref. He let contact go all throughout the game yet the once he didn't we scored

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Post by JohnnyB » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:07 pm

Bit disappointing after the run we’ve been on but no disaster. We’re still very much with the chasing pack, second only on goals scored I believe.

They’ll pick themselves up and prepare for the next opponents, a very different sort of challenge up at Accrington.

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Post by Tangfastic » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:07 pm

Can't help feel we deserved that. If you can't defend properly- that's what happens. Enter Keogh.

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Post by BlueBalls » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:15 pm

Every single one of us would've taken 4 wins + 2 draws from our first six games.

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Post by Steve » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:23 pm

BlueBalls wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:15 pm
Every single one of us would've taken 4 wins + 2 draws from our first six games.
Totally agree, we would of bitten hands off to be undefeated and with 4 wins in the pot also. Where were this time last year?

Lets go again Ipswich, drawing is not a disaster. Just like us all bit disappointed as it feels we should of won but these things happen. On wards and upwards

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:24 pm

We did indeed deserve to win that although at times it was pretty even. Two sloppy moments defensively cost us Two goals although the first should never have happened as it was never a free kick to start with as Evans was pushed into the ball, we should still defend the cross much better.

I cannot for the life of me see why the Harness goal was disallowed, 3-1 and its game over so for me we were robbed. Walton made a good save earlier to keep it level but the final 20 mins was virtually all Town and the chances to win it weren't taken, Edmundson header off the post, great save from Vincent-Young's header and one off the line right at the death. Two points dropped but they aren't a bad side by any means.

Impressed with Morsy, Chaplin and Evans today while Jackson and Harness made a big difference when they came on. I still don't like this playing out from the back, there's a time and a place, sometimes Walton needs to put his foot through it, his dribbling out is ridiculous. Not disappointed with the performance but very frustrated with the result as I hate saying it but the referee cost us today.

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Post by AzzurroMark » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:30 pm

Certain things really wind me up which do nothing to help the game flow:

1, Referee, give a player one chance to time waste (Barnsley keeper), don't just stand there tapping your watch everytime afterwards, just yellow card them - problem solved!
2, When a player goes down, an enforced 3 minute on the sidelines for treatment, would cut out this ridiculous time wasting trying to break up the play.

These two things are really spoiling the game. No I was not happy about our disallowed goal, but credit to Barnsley on making a game of it (bar the blatant cheating).

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Post by Andym » Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:44 pm

A fair result overall. They were decent but spoilers. Referee very poor, on a par with last week’s.
Too many sloppy passes to deserve the win really.

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Post by AzzurroMark » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:06 pm

Certainly Keiran seems unhappy with the level of the referee's performance!

https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-to ... ey-9238218

Will be very interested to see our disallowed goal on the highlights later! As Charnie said, anywhere else on the pitch and the referee would have not blown for a free kick, even if he did it would more likely to have favoured the attacking player.

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Post by hallamblue » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:10 pm

Tangfastic wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:07 pm
Can't help feel we deserved that. If you can't defend properly- that's what happens. Enter Keogh.
Hopefully. I said to Mike today how did he feel about Edmundson and Woolfie? I always feel there’s at least one mistake from either of them thst Will cost us the goal m. Teams don’t have to work hard to score against us I feel.

But the ref today was a bloody disgrace. He wasn’t only poor, he was biased.
He gave them a free kjj if k gif hand ball when it clearly a foul on our player thst led him to hit the ball with his arm when he was pushed in the back . Then to disallow our 3rd and what would face been the winning goal . The arrogant c*ck just liked being centre of attention with his “ I’m in charge” attitude. Utter tossa.

Edit: I would tend to disagree with AndyM only because we hit the woodwork, their GK made two blinding saves and another shot was cleared off the line, AND we had a perfectly good goal disallowed by that c*ck womble- had that stood we’d have won that game without a shadow of doubt.

I agree with tang ( and hope ) it’s only a matter of time before Keogh comes in at the back. I suspect Edmundson will be the one to make way .

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Post by mendipblue » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:36 pm

Referee shocking!! Ladapo awful,Davies awful these should not start again. Barnsley awful spoiling time waisting glad we don't play like that. 2 goals we gave away poor defending sadly. 2 points dropped unfortunately 😪

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Post by Andym » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:53 pm

mendipblue wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:36 pm
Referee shocking!! Ladapo awful,Davies awful these should not start again. Barnsley awful spoiling time waisting glad we don't play like that. 2 goals we gave away poor defending sadly. 2 points dropped unfortunately 😪
Agree on Ladapo who never gets into the game, and Davies who played more sloppy passes than anyone else. Barnsley were indeed Spoilers but weren’t a bad side.
Still averaging more than 2 points a game which is promotion form. Need to bounce back next week.

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Post by Andym » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:55 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:10 pm
Tangfastic wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:07 pm
Can't help feel we deserved that. If you can't defend properly- that's what happens. Enter Keogh.
Hopefully. I said to Mike today how did he feel about Edmundson and Woolfie? I always feel there’s at least one mistake from either of them thst Will cost us the goal m. Teams don’t have to work hard to score against us I feel.

But the ref today was a bloody disgrace. He wasn’t only poor, he was biased.
He gave them a free kjj if k gif hand ball when it clearly a foul on our player thst led him to hit the ball with his arm when he was pushed in the back . Then to disallow our 3rd and what would face been the winning goal . The arrogant c*ck just liked being centre of attention with his “ I’m in charge” attitude. Utter tossa.

Edit: I would tend to disagree with AndyM only because we hit the woodwork, their GK made two blinding saves and another shot was cleared off the line, AND we had a perfectly good goal disallowed by that c*ck womble- had that stood we’d have won that game without a shadow of doubt.

I agree with tang ( and hope ) it’s only a matter of time before Keogh comes in at the back. I suspect Edmundson will be the one to make way .
I think we were the better side today but probably didn’t do enough to deserve a win.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:24 pm

We scored 3 perfectly good goals so that alone deserved the win.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:40 am

McKenna started with only one in attack ? To what end I don't know. Surely with a home advantage and some of the attackers at our disposal the emphasis would have been on a more attacking line-up ? Guess he changed it at some point of proceedings but that don't make it so.

Caught highlights, may have to tune in a second time to gain better idea but got the basics of what occurred. Got Chaplin correct as first scorer and attendance was about as expected. Thought we'd win today, unless Barnsley are better than their league status suggests, some would argue two points dropped. Four wins, two draws, six games in. Whether we were wronged today or otherwise it's been a great start, there can be no dispute.

Unless the senior game official today were some distant relation of Clive Thomas, can't quite understand why he had to chalk off what seemed a legitimate goal. Maybe the kid was under-experienced or just put in a poor days work. Shame it had to be today.

Not sure who we got next but reading replies and seeing from highlights (in that) we created enough chances to win it, there's no real reason for despair. Team has come on leaps and bounds after the complete f*ck-ups of recent managers and ex-playing personnel : you CAN see optimism ahead.

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Post by marko69 » Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:40 am

Managed to catch some highlights. Kieron rightly must've been frustrated at full time. Not just about the legitimate goal that was chopped off, but just not getting 3pts from what looked like a very good ITFC performance.
Chaplins freekick....., brilliant
Morseys goal, even better imo....., very difficult to guide those 50/50 chances....., done it beautifully
Barnsley 1st goal....., could've done better but Walton was a whisker away from saving that.... so close and unlucky
Barnsley 2nd goal......, that'll need discussed in depth this week at training. For that 3 seconds of play, ....., WTF were they doing? Get that sh!t sorted out lads.

But, 4 corners in injury time, constant onslaught on their goal......, never giving up attitude was excellent.

Ladapo could be a DUFF-er. But not enough highlights to be totally sure. Must be the name Freddie --->> They just don't work @ Portman Road.

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Post by hallamblue » Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:25 am

He certainly looks no better than Pigott that’s for sure, and I’d say Piggot, technically, is streets ahead of him.

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Post by Tangfastic » Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:35 am

Bluemike wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:24 pm
We scored 3 perfectly good goals so that alone deserved the win.
We did..... but we still drew.

I just hope this isn't going to be another season of whinging over refs and other team's shithousery. We could have won with 2 goals if we'd have defended the corner better and the ref could have disallowed 10 more goals and we'd have still won. The scorer was 5ft 6. The first scorer was 5ft 9 and he didn't even jump. That's the frustrating thing.... we work so hard to get a lead and then give it away so easily.
We know refs are sh*t.... so we can't rely on them. But we can influence games ourselves by not making schoolboy errors. I think now we'll see Keogh. I don’t necessarily think he's here as back up. He played 28 times for Blackpool in the Championship last year and their fans rated him. We brought him here for a reason and I think now the time is right. Walton can't save us every week.

Apart from that, 4 wins, 2 draws. Very decent. A greedy part of me thinks we should have won all 6. Still think we won't know how good we are till we play a sheff wed, Posh or Pompey. And I do think we need another striker. Ladapo is going to need a lot of chances to score just one and I don't think he'll get them. Missed another one yesterday.

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Post by Shed on tour » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:13 am

Tangfastic wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:35 am
Bluemike wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:24 pm
We scored 3 perfectly good goals so that alone deserved the win.
We did..... but we still drew.

I just hope this isn't going to be another season of whinging over refs and other team's shithousery. We could have won with 2 goals if we'd have defended the corner better and the ref could have disallowed 10 more goals and we'd have still won. The scorer was 5ft 6. The first scorer was 5ft 9 and he didn't even jump. That's the frustrating thing.... we work so hard to get a lead and then give it away so easily.
We know refs are sh*t.... so we can't rely on them. But we can influence games ourselves by not making schoolboy errors. I think now we'll see Keogh. I don’t necessarily think he's here as back up. He played 28 times for Blackpool in the Championship last year and their fans rated him. We brought him here for a reason and I think now the time is right. Walton can't save us every week.

Apart from that, 4 wins, 2 draws. Very decent. A greedy part of me thinks we should have won all 6. Still think we won't know how good we are till we play a sheff wed, Posh or Pompey. And I do think we need another striker. Ladapo is going to need a lot of chances to score just one and I don't think he'll get them. Missed another one yesterday.
Agree, we know the standard of refereeing in this league is sh*t and that ain’t going to change. However, we can do something about conceding soft goals. Their first one yesterday we seemed to switch off after blocking the free kick and as for the 2nd yes it was a good header but ffs the scorer seemed to have the freedom of Portman Road to make the header.
Hopefully we will get back to winning ways at Accrington next Saturday although as we know from previous visits there it won’t be easy.

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:21 am

Depends which way you look at it, the Ref cost us Two goals yesterday, The Harness goal and their first goal, Evans was actually fouled and they get the free kick which led to the goal in the second phase of play, that is fact so if this is what we have to expect every week what we are saying is we aren't allowed any defensive errors which is never gonna happen and that goes for any team, we were robbed, its plain and simple, our poor defending for that goal never happens if the fucktard ref does his job.

Looking at the replays I would say Donacien at fault for both their goals, I may be wrong but I thought it was his man both times.

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Post by rossi » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:55 am

well, 14 points from 6 games is still pretty good and I'm more than happy with the situation, but it could and probably should be better.

But I do have some concerns, mainly about the manager (who I've backed since his appointment but in whom I'm gradually losing confidence when listening to some of the ridiculous things he says).

First off - it's no good whining and bleating about the referee, and it does us no service as a club when the manager does exactly that. Of course the Harness goal should never have been disallowed - one of several terrible decisions by a referee determined to interrupt the flow of play whenever possible and to appear as the big I am. But, we're in a sh*t league (entirely through our own fault) with sh*t officials - everybody knows that, so just deal with it.

Secondly - 3 changes to the starting line-up after a 3-0 away win? What's that all about? That makes 8 changes in the last 2 games, far too many. I suppose one change was made so he could get Burns back in the team. In the 47th minute, Burns initially did well to beat his man and get to the by-line, there were 5 or 6 of our players in the penalty area but Burns' cross went at knee height to the first defender. No improvement from last season, then, and until he can improve his delivery he'll never be a top player.

Lastly, I'm concerned that we have dropped 4 points at home already - that's nowhere near promotion form. I said before the game that one of the reasons I expected a difficult game was because we were at home. The trouble is that teams coming here will pack out the midfield and defence and it's difficult to break teams down using the approach and type of football that KM wants to play. In this way I would say that he's as one-dimensional as PC was. It's fine to play the pretty football away from home, but at home when opposing defence and midfield are packed out you need to take a more direct approach - more long balls to TWO strikers one of whom at least needs to be a big target man. So it really surprises me that KM seems to think we're fine in the striking front, because I don't think we are. Maybe he just says that through embarrassment at the club having spent all it's time chasing an unrealistic target (Hirst). I just hope that our home form does not prove to be our nemesis this season, but something needs to change for sure.

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Post by Tangfastic » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:21 am

Bluemike wrote:
Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:21 am
Depends which way you look at it, the Ref cost us Two goals yesterday, The Harness goal and their first goal, Evans was actually fouled and they get the free kick which led to the goal in the second phase of play, that is fact so if this is what we have to expect every week what we are saying is we aren't allowed any defensive errors which is never gonna happen and that goes for any team, we were robbed, its plain and simple, our poor defending for that goal never happens if the fucktard ref does his job.

Looking at the replays I would say Donacien at fault for both their goals, I may be wrong but I thought it was his man both times.
The point is..... we can affect what happens with how we play. We can't affect anything by constantly complaining about refs. Unless we bribe them. Another day, another ref and we would have won that .... but we got another bad one. And, yes, we will get more bad refs who make more bad decisions.

The referee didn't instruct our defenders NOT to mark players in the box. That was down to us. If we're solely reliant on getting decent refs..... we might as well give up.
No big deal. Only 6 games in and it's a good start, but I'd hate to be 20-30 games in and still complaining about sh*t refs costing us points. Its possible to have a bad ref and still win.

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