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Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:00 pm
by Charnwood
Who says Morsy can’t score

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:01 pm
by Charnwood
Another keeper error ?

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:01 pm
by Bluemike
4-4 absolutely unacceptable

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:01 pm
by Tangfastic
How the f*ck?

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pm
by Charnwood
What a ridiculous difference between two half’s.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pm
by Bluemike
And the f**king idiot plays 3 extra minutes!!!

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:03 pm
by Bluemike
That feels like a defeat, people need to keep away from me tonight

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:03 pm
by Dazzz67
I thought we'd had won, this is not acceptable at all, id get my big boy boots on and give some of them a huge kick up their jacksies!

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:03 pm
by marko69
Wtf happened?

It was 4-2 @ 90+4?

What a farce

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:03 pm
by Charnwood
So much for Keogh coming on to prop up the defence. For me Walton looked suspect again, but we’re now on 90 + 9

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:03 pm
by Steve
Forget the Forwards, Forget whether Freddie or Tyreece John-Jules start but that is naïve

Morsy hit the CORNER.. Kill the game, That is awful from then on to the defence.. What are they doing. This is not our attacking its the idiotic defending

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm
by marko69
Dazzz67 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:03 pm
I thought we'd had won, this is not acceptable at all, id get my big boy boots on and give some of them a huge kick up their jacksies!
YEP 👌

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm
by valleyroad
wtf, cant close out matches and hold onto leads. 2 goals up twice and lose the lead, very poor. Not the first time. Something for McKenna to fix big time.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:04 pm
by Cabanas Blue
6 minutes extra time and he scores in the 9th Gutted.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:05 pm
by hallamblue
We won’t get promoted with these sh it defenders. Two new CB’s in January please

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:06 pm
by mendipblue
Sorry that is f**king sh*t. 2 goal lead thrown away twice f**king poor by anybody standards..

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:09 pm
by Denny61
What's going to happen is a bit of discontent in the dressing room..I hope not..for all the goals flying in .our backs cant defend ..and now you will have words Been spoken to by all and sundry ..if mckenna doesn't handle this ..a split could come amongst the players..I hpe not

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:09 pm
by Bluemike
Blame Walton for a lot today

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:10 pm
by Steve
Its not just the CB's, don't forget one scored. Goalkeeper do not come out with glory nor does the midfield. Charlton scored their 4th goal from us having it in their penalty area in the last minute!!.

We attack as a team and defend as a team. To be fair so far up to this game we have been fairly solid defensively. Today was totally shocking so not having a gut reaction.. Do not Town let this happen again

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:11 pm
by Steve
Steve wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:10 pm
Its not just the CB's, don't forget one scored. Goalkeeper do not come out with glory nor does the midfield. Charlton scored their 4th goal from us having it in their penalty area in the last minute!!.

We attack as a team and defend as a team. To be fair so far up to this season we have been fairly solid defensively. Today was totally shocking so not having a gut reaction.. Do not Town let this happen again

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:16 pm
by Cabanas Blue
Just as well as brought another defender on Keogh in the 90th minute or we might have lost 😩 I'm so pi55ed off.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:17 pm
by bluejacko
Just how many two goal leads in this division has any team let slip? Now we have the ‘honour’ of doing it bloody twice in one game! Utter embarrassment!!!

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:18 pm
by marko69
Cabanas Blue wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:16 pm
I'm so pi55ed off.
Yes, after 0-2 and 2-4, this’ll feel like a crushing defeat for fans leaving Portman Road today.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:27 pm
by Mariner67
Sounded like a blinder of a game,four goals away from home,people were saying they'd be happy with 1-1 we drew away from home, disappointing not to win & where did the extra 9 minutes come from,has Fergy got shares in Charlton.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:33 pm
by Blue Wilf
marko69 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:18 pm
Cabanas Blue wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:16 pm
I'm so pi55ed off.
Yes, after 0-2 and 2-4, this’ll feel like a crushing defeat for fans leaving Portman Road today.
At least they are close to home Marko - imagine what it is like for the ones actually at the Valley! 😂

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:41 pm
by Andym
Mariner67 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:27 pm
where did the extra 9 minutes come from,has Fergy got shares in Charlton.
There were 6 added minutes as a combination of injuries, substitutions and a bit of time wasting. Three goals in those 6 added minutes leads to more added time. That’s how it is. No complaints over that.

Struggled to watch as for some reason my VPN kicks me off every 15 minutes saying I’m not eligible to watch so I have to log out and back in again. And my son’s girlfriend came over with a new puppy. But from what I managed to see we still don’t build like we used to. We are ok and scored some decent goals but conceding 4 is always poor.
We really restricted them to very few chances first half, it’s difficult to see what went wrong. Keeper error for at least one of them, possibly more. But we shouldn’t be alerting them to have chances.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:45 pm
by marko69
Blue Wilf wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:33 pm
marko69 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:18 pm
Cabanas Blue wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:16 pm
I'm so pi55ed off.
Yes, after 0-2 and 2-4, this’ll feel like a crushing defeat for fans leaving Portman Road today.
At least they are close to home Marko - imagine what it is like for the ones actually at the Valley! 😂
:lol: :lol: :lol: What a mistake......., forgot it was an away game. Ah well, takes the edge off the crushing defeat feeling. :lol:

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:01 pm
by Mariner67
I've never known there to be so many injury time goals,when was the last time we had a 4-4 ?,I'm sure it's happened before.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:48 pm
by Charnwood
We drew 4-4 at Derby once when we led 1-4 at half time.

I can’t think of any others but I’m sure there will be.

Re: League 1 - Charlton Athletic vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:12 pm
by rossi
Bluemike wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:09 pm
Blame Walton for a lot today
I don't, Mike - I don't blame the players for making mistakes. If they were good enough not to make a mistake, then they would be playing higher up the pyramid than the third tier.

I know I'm going to get lambasted for this, but I don't care, because I lay the blame squarely at the manager. Not necessarily for his rotation policy (which I still maintain is not a good one for this level), neither for his insistence on making multiple substitutions just because he can (for me, the game turned today when he made the triple substitution, although in fairness Ladapo should have been played from the start).

To throw away a 2-goal lead once is poor, to throw it away twice in the same game is unforgiveable, to throw away a 2-goal lead 3 times in 2 games indicates that something is very wrong.

To put it simply, I think KM is guilty of overthinking the game. We're not Man Utd or Spurs, at the top level and with a squad of superstars. We're Ipswich, playing in the third tier. Admittedly we have one of the best squads at that level, but it's still the third tier.

At the start of this thread, there was a certain amount of postulating about whether we played 3 at the back or 4. We certainly seem to always start with 3, but we seem to revert to 4 during some games. I paid special attention today, and it seemed to me that we changed it at least 8 times. That's what I mean about overthinking the game - players at this level are simply not good enough to make such changes so often. It ends up with a defence that doesn't know what they should be doing or whom they should be marking. Decide your system, pick your best team to fit that system, and stick to it for the whole game unless either injuries or going 2 goals behind means a change is required.