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Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:42 pm
by shabba
I think you’ve misread it, that clause will expire once he signs for us. You can’t pass a clause on.

It was to highlight the fact villa can’t buy him for £15m as they aren’t in the same league as hull, so the clause is not able to be activated even if they wanted to.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:00 pm
by hallamblue
Oh, well that’s great news then . I did misread it.

Thanks Shabba, you’ve cheered me up :D 👍

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:01 pm
by marko69
shabba wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:42 pm
I think you’ve misread it, that clause will expire once he signs for us. You can’t pass a clause on.

It was to highlight the fact villa can’t buy him for £15m as they aren’t in the same league as hull, so the clause is not able to be activated even if they wanted to.
You can if there is snow & a sleigh.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:09 pm
by Bluemike
shabba wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:42 pm
I think you’ve misread it, that clause will expire once he signs for us. You can’t pass a clause on.

It was to highlight the fact villa can’t buy him for £15m as they aren’t in the same league as hull, so the clause is not able to be activated even if they wanted to.
Exactly that.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:05 am
by arana peligrosa
These kids we're bringing in i.e. Philogene and Delap, can't say ever heard of them or just can't recognize the names involved. There was a Delap at Southampton years back and thought for a moment that's who we were after but instead some player from Manchester you just can't place. Believe we're paying out around 40 million for the two which is kind of bizarre to see as we're just not used to spending such volume of money.

All right it's pleasing if not encouraging to see we're a part of big spenders now but so soon after almost falling into League Two and oblivion with Marcus Evans, it's all a bit much to take in maybe. What with McKenna staying on for another four years - he won't however - and new players coming in and some of the dead weight being moved on we're arguably being equipped for a substantial attempt at the EPL from August. There's got to be reason for optimism ahead.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:04 am
by BLUEBLOOD
arana peligrosa wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:05 am
Delap, can't say ever heard of them or just can't recognize the names involved. There was a Delap at Southampton years back and thought for a moment that's who we were after but instead some player from Manchester you just can't place. .
You are thinking of his Dad Rory Delap .
He played for Southampton how time goes by ...

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:57 am
by Shed on tour
Sounds like Villa have activated the matching rights clause for JP. If Hull receive higher bids from elsewhere, Villa have to decide whether they want to stay in the process. If it turns into a bidding war think we should just walk away.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:04 am
by Cabanas Blue
Shed on tour wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:57 am
Sounds like Villa have activated the matching rights clause for JP. If Hull receive higher bids from elsewhere, Villa have to decide whether they want to stay in the process. If it turns into a bidding war think we should just walk away.
I've just seen that the player needs to say I'm signing for Ipswich if not we should just walk away, I'm pissed off with this now 😫😫

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:10 am
by Bluemike
I don't see how that can be correct as the clause clearly states "if Hull are promoted to the Premier League"

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:21 am
by hallamblue
FFS this is a bloody circus now! Villa don’t want the player. They just don’t want another PL club to have him,

MOVE ON !!

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... ing-rights

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:32 am
by Shed on tour
hallamblue wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:21 am
FFS this is a bloody circus now! Villa don’t want the player. They just don’t want another PL club to have him,

MOVE ON !!

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... ing-rights
Agree. This reminds me of the Crook and and Kachloul sagas.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:53 am
by Bluemike
For me, if it goes beyond today just tell him to fcuk off

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:00 pm
by ijjysmith
Welcome back to the Premier League lads.

It’s absolutely horrible.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:03 pm
by shabba
Bluemike wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:10 am
I don't see how that can be correct as the clause clearly states "if Hull are promoted to the Premier League"
Have we actually seen the proof though? It's just what was said in an article, we really don't know what is fact here.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:05 pm
by Bluemike
A guy posted a copy of it on the Everton forum, also if you Google it it's quoted as such all over the place, villa fans have even mentioned it on their forum so it appears to be the case yes.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:11 pm
by Bluemike

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:13 pm
by AzzurroMark
Jaden;
Hmm, go back to a club who weren't prepared to allow you to develop within their own system? What makes you think they're going to help you develop anymore if you rejoin them? Are you going to be a regular starter?

KM already has a pedigree in his short career for improving players - it's often overlooked how much Burgess has improved! He was never a Championship player when he joined us in L1. Omari only commanded a big fee (sadly :lol: ) because of KM developing him. You have the potential to be adored by the Town faithful so make us your new home!

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:27 pm
by Bluemike
Add to that Villa have a plethora of good wide talent, he'll be well down the pecking order again, what worries me is tge bad advice he'll no doubt receive as his agent appears to be a bit of a despot

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:33 pm
by Cabanas Blue
I had a quick look at the Villa forum and it seems they have a 30% sell on so they would pay around 13 million so it's up to the player who wanted to leave them to get more playing time, let's hope he still does.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:36 pm
by Bluemike
Strangely enough Man City have inserted a buy back clause in the Liam Delap transfer too, gonna be the norm now.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:36 pm
by AzzurroMark
Bluemike wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:27 pm
Add to that Villa have a plethora of good wide talent, he'll be well down the pecking order again, what worries me is tge bad advice he'll no doubt receive as his agent appears to be a bit of a despot
Alleged photographs at both Barcelona and Everton's training ground trying to paint a picture of more interest! I get an agent looking to get his player the best deal possible, you'd expect that, but going to that type of length (if there's any truth in anything we read these days!!) is out of order in my eyes.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:44 pm
by Shed on tour
I wonder if this combined bid falls through if it will affect the Greaves signing in any way? Obviously Hull were happy with the original bid for the two, but if it then turns out that Greaves is the only one coming whether they will then try and get more for him than what they valued him at in a combined deal?

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:05 pm
by shabba
Shed on tour wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:44 pm
I wonder if this combined bid falls through if it will affect the Greaves signing in any way? Obviously Hull were happy with the original bid for the two, but if it then turns out that Greaves is the only one coming whether they will then try and get more for him than what they valued him at in a combined deal?
I think Greaves is a done deal regardless of Philogean. They probably just want to announce both at the same time.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:12 pm
by Bluemike
I actually dislike EVERYTHING about the Premier League, not seen a single positive since winning promotion.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
by FriendlyVillan
AzzurroMark wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:13 pm
Jaden;
Hmm, go back to a club who weren't prepared to allow you to develop within their own system? What makes you think they're going to help you develop anymore if you rejoin them? Are you going to be a regular starter?

KM already has a pedigree in his short career for improving players - it's often overlooked how much Burgess has improved! He was never a Championship player when he joined us in L1. Omari only commanded a big fee (sadly :lol: ) because of KM developing him. You have the potential to be adored by the Town faithful so make us your new home!
Hi , just to give you a little context on this, Philogene was heavily involved in our pre-season games last summer and Emery was very impressed by him and really wanted to keep him for last season. The player himself expressed the desire to leave and get guaranteed minutes somewhere else and so the club decided to allow him to leave.

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
by Dubai Blue
Need some chill pills around here. We are just interested observers. Just enjoy the circus :-)

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:40 pm
by Bluemike
FriendlyVillan wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
AzzurroMark wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:13 pm
Jaden;
Hmm, go back to a club who weren't prepared to allow you to develop within their own system? What makes you think they're going to help you develop anymore if you rejoin them? Are you going to be a regular starter?

KM already has a pedigree in his short career for improving players - it's often overlooked how much Burgess has improved! He was never a Championship player when he joined us in L1. Omari only commanded a big fee (sadly :lol: ) because of KM developing him. You have the potential to be adored by the Town faithful so make us your new home!
Hi , just to give you a little context on this, Philogene was heavily involved in our pre-season games last summer and Emery was very impressed by him and really wanted to keep him for last season. The player himself expressed the desire to leave and get guaranteed minutes somewhere else and so the club decided to allow him to leave.
What is the general consensus of opinion among Villa fans as to where this is heading ?

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:49 pm
by FriendlyVillan
Bluemike wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:40 pm
FriendlyVillan wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
AzzurroMark wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:13 pm
Jaden;
Hmm, go back to a club who weren't prepared to allow you to develop within their own system? What makes you think they're going to help you develop anymore if you rejoin them? Are you going to be a regular starter?

KM already has a pedigree in his short career for improving players - it's often overlooked how much Burgess has improved! He was never a Championship player when he joined us in L1. Omari only commanded a big fee (sadly :lol: ) because of KM developing him. You have the potential to be adored by the Town faithful so make us your new home!
Hi , just to give you a little context on this, Philogene was heavily involved in our pre-season games last summer and Emery was very impressed by him and really wanted to keep him for last season. The player himself expressed the desire to leave and get guaranteed minutes somewhere else and so the club decided to allow him to leave.
What is the general consensus of opinion among Villa fans as to where this is heading ?
Can only talk from my own point of view and that would be,
Not much has changed from last season, maybe it's tougher for him to get in now. When he left. Most of us were really concerned about Bailey being so poor but he really turned it around . For me the player himself should be looking at Ipswich as a far more effective option to take that next step, but we all know these guys have a lot of voices in their ears that really don't care about the player themselves

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:50 pm
by shabba
FriendlyVillan wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:35 pm
AzzurroMark wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:13 pm
Jaden;
Hmm, go back to a club who weren't prepared to allow you to develop within their own system? What makes you think they're going to help you develop anymore if you rejoin them? Are you going to be a regular starter?

KM already has a pedigree in his short career for improving players - it's often overlooked how much Burgess has improved! He was never a Championship player when he joined us in L1. Omari only commanded a big fee (sadly :lol: ) because of KM developing him. You have the potential to be adored by the Town faithful so make us your new home!
Hi , just to give you a little context on this, Philogene was heavily involved in our pre-season games last summer and Emery was very impressed by him and really wanted to keep him for last season. The player himself expressed the desire to leave and get guaranteed minutes somewhere else and so the club decided to allow him to leave.
Good input, thank you. I wonder if the player will see himself having the same issue if he goes back there, i.e lack of minutes.
(i.e villa can activate the clause but that doesn't mean the player has to agree terms, he could still turn down villa).

Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:21 pm
by Bluemike
To the tune of Billie Jean.......

He said that his name is Philogene and he's caused a scene

Five teams heads turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one

But the kid may not be the one.

Ashton clearly told him, be careful what you do
And don't go around breaking Town fans hearts

And kieran also told him be careful of who you love
And be careful of what you do 'cause Villa don't tell the truth
Hey hey hey

Philogene is not our guy.......