When justice isn't enough

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When justice isn't enough

Post by arana peligrosa » Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:06 pm

A "man" has been found guilty of head butting former Town manager Roy Keane in what described as 'senseless and gratuitous violence' following an EPL game at Arsenal stadium London in the fall of last year. An individual from Waltham Abbey Essex attacked the pundit at the stadium where Keane was employed by Sky Sports.

The perpetrator was issued an exclusion order from 'football' covering three years, ordered 80 hours of work without salary, forced to pay legal costs of 600 pounds and a victim surcharge of 115.

Two schools of thought here, firstly Keane was lame with us, never really worked out and in so many words, was a failure, but doesn't warrant an attack of that nature. Not only that the justice system seems flawed with the punishment provided. No actual jail time, a banning order from the game, few hours of unpaid work and a fine some would argue derisory, if not the overall consequences of the actions in question.

Keane was no success here, he was poor and uninspiring, but no reason to assault the man and the punishment handed out to the perpetrator, it's kind of far from laudable.

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Re: When justice isn't enough

Post by Bluemike » Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:14 pm

I think its disgraceful, what is the world coming to, I mean how in the hell has this guy not been given a Knighthood for landing one on that egotistical knob who had the affront to insult the whole of Suffolk and put our club back years.

I mean it was ok for Keane to commit a vicious, career ending assault on the field of play and openly admit he did it intentionally and then gloat about it but then when receiving a taste of his own medicine the baby goes running to the law, if you can't take it big man don't dish it out.

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Re: When justice isn't enough

Post by Cabanas Blue » Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:29 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:14 pm
I think its disgraceful, what is the world coming to, I mean how in the hell has this guy not been given a Knighthood for landing one on that egotistical knob who had the affront to insult the whole of Suffolk and put our club back years.

I mean it was ok for Keane to commit a vicious, career ending assault on the field of play and openly admit he did it intentionally and then gloat about it but then when receiving a taste of his own medicine the baby goes running to the law, if you can't take it big man don't dish it out.
I'm so pleased I'm not alone with my thoughts about that horrible waste of space, and I even told people in a chippy in Ireland what I thought about him when he walked out on Ireland all those years ago and they agreed with me.

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Re: When justice isn't enough

Post by marko69 » Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:08 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:14 pm
I mean it was ok for Keane to commit a vicious, career ending assault on the field of play and openly admit he did it intentionally and then gloat about it.....
The karma is the son of Haaland Snr is almost single-handedly putting Keanes Manure in Man City's rearview mirror. (No one cares about the FA CUP anymore)
Got to be completely honest, really do not agree with violence at all unless the immediate family is threatened or something along those lines....., but I am surprised this hasn't been a "seasonly" (if there is such a word) occurrence for Roy.

Still got the Oxford English out sitting full of stature on the dining room table......., lets go check seasonly.

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Re: When justice isn't enough

Post by hallamblue » Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:22 am

Cabanas Blue wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:29 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:14 pm
I think its disgraceful, what is the world coming to, I mean how in the hell has this guy not been given a Knighthood for landing one on that egotistical knob who had the affront to insult the whole of Suffolk and put our club back years.

I mean it was ok for Keane to commit a vicious, career ending assault on the field of play and openly admit he did it intentionally and then gloat about it but then when receiving a taste of his own medicine the baby goes running to the law, if you can't take it big man don't dish it out.
I'm so pleased I'm not alone with my thoughts about that horrible waste of space, and I even told people in a chippy in Ireland what I thought about him when he walked out on Ireland all those years ago and they agreed with me.
lol “ Knighthood”!!!

Agree 100% with that.

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Re: When justice isn't enough

Post by arana peligrosa » Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:31 pm

(On the last point) Keane was never knighted, made a Sir, was pretty much aware of that but was convinced at least held the honor of a OBE, MBE for example guess, services to sport. Took the time to check out his personal profile, lo and behold, doesn't even possess such a thing. Was never bestowed any title which however you feel about the individual in question, he were an outstanding player and highly decorated sporting figure / now commentator. People have been awarded titles and recognition for far less.

Took a moment to think back to the tackle Keane made years back in which intentionally went out to injure another player, there was clear malice intended, so guess being on the receiving end of an assault himself provides a certain atonement in eyes of some people. Then again the recent incident wasn't sports related, only some nut from the general public taking it upon themselves to cause injury or personal harm which kind of takes things out of context. Just gonna let it rest now but felt need to add closing thought on the issue.

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Re: When justice isn't enough

Post by marko69 » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:05 pm

arana peligrosa wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:31 pm
Took a moment to think back to the tackle Keane made years back in which intentionally went out to injure another player, there was clear malice intended, so guess being on the receiving end of an assault himself provides a certain atonement in eyes of some people. Then again the recent incident wasn't sports related, only some nut from the general public taking it upon themselves to cause injury or personal harm which kind of takes things out of context. Just gonna let it rest now but felt need to add closing thought on the issue.
Everything is out of context, Saint. You should know that.
A Saudi Arabian went to Afghanistan and trained up some people to terrorise ‘Murica.
So ‘Murica invaded Iraq. 🤔🤷‍♂️
Everything is out of context in the modern world, buddy.

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Re: When justice isn't enough

Post by Steve » Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:47 am

arana peligrosa wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:31 pm
(On the last point) Keane was never knighted, made a Sir, was pretty much aware of that but was convinced at least held the honor of a OBE, MBE for example guess, services to sport. Took the time to check out his personal profile, lo and behold, doesn't even possess such a thing. Was never bestowed any title which however you feel about the individual in question, he were an outstanding player and highly decorated sporting figure / now commentator. People have been awarded titles and recognition for far less.

Took a moment to think back to the tackle Keane made years back in which intentionally went out to injure another player, there was clear malice intended, so guess being on the receiving end of an assault himself provides a certain atonement in eyes of some people. Then again the recent incident wasn't sports related, only some nut from the general public taking it upon themselves to cause injury or personal harm which kind of takes things out of context. Just gonna let it rest now but felt need to add closing thought on the issue.
He is Irish, if he was awarded anything they would only be honourable as he is not British, talk to the Irish government and ask them why he is has not of yet been awarded anything. For to been awarded MBE, OBE or whatever gong from Britain that has to be approved by the British government and on top of my head can only think of knighthoods like Sir Terry Wogan or Sir Bob Geldof, maybe others and am sure somebody will say.

Other thing is Under the Irish Constitution, Irish citizens are forbidden from accepting any “title of nobility or of honour” from a foreign state, unless prior approval is sought from Government.

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